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How to Select a Type of Grease (12 things about greasing you should know)
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- I get a lot of questions about which grease is best for a tractor. While I'm not an expert on lubrication, my opinion is, and always has been, that the TYPE of grease is a lot less important than the FREQUENCY of greasing. In 25 years in the ag equipment business I've seen countless incidences of a failure on a piece of equipment that could have been prevented with regular lubrication. I've never once seen a repair that came about because the owner chose the wrong type of grease.
Truth is, for most of us who piddle around with a tractor, do some brush hogging, haul a little dirt around in the bucket and maybe use a grapple to move brush around, a good multi-purpose Lithium grease is all we need. Get one with corrosion inhibitors and oxidation stabilizers. Those additives may drive up the price a little, but they're essential, especially if the equipment is stored outside. That's what I use.
If you'll be using your grease for other applications, then it gets a little more complicated. Let's say you have a skid loader or mini-excavator and you'll be using the grease for both it, and your compact tractor. Then, you may want to move to a Moly grease. Moly greases are more than adequate for light applications like small tractors, and they excel in protection when pins or bushings are under a lot of pressure as they are in an industrial application. They're not a great grease for wheel bearings.
There's been a trend the last few years toward the use of Poly-urea greases. They're definitely a move up from the standard Lithium grease and are used in many sealed bearing applications. Poly-urea greases are thermally stable; high temperature situations don't affect them as they do other greases. They give great oxidation protection and weep oil at a very consistent pace. It is not, however, compatible with other greases. If changing from Lithium grease to Poly-urea, grease more often during the change to work the Poly-urea in to the system.
The absolute top of the line choice for greasing is a synthetic grease. They're EXPENSIVE, but they offer superior heat protection in high speed applications. If you own a round baler or combine with lots of shafts and pulleys moving for hours on end, your owner's manual may tell you to only use synthetic greases. Because of the consistency of synthetics and their ability to dissipate heat, they're the top of the food chain in the grease world.
I'd like to thank Wes, President of AET Solutions/Lube Shuttle, for sharing his vast knowledge of grease to us. If you'd like to get away from the old style spring pressure grease guns that are hard to load and leak grease on your shop floor, check out the Lube Shuttle, one of my favorite products about 1/2 way down on my website: asktractormike....
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Red and tacky wasn't mentioned. I like the anti seize added. Seems to make sense.
We bought the Lube Shuttle from Mike, and we'll NEVER go back to the old style grease guns. Nothing to take apart; no bleeding the air out; just pull the old cartridge, push the grease to the top of the new cartridge, and screw it in. Works first time, every time. Thanks for finding and selling a quality product, Mike!
That guy is well versed and knows the products well. 👍
I work in the power industry on a lot of big / high horsepower machines. And I have seen plenty of equipment failures caused by wrong grease in high load or high temperature applications. But it's also true that I have seen many more failures caused by no grease / inadequate grease. For heavy-duty applications, the wrong grease can reasonably be expected to cause failure.
Lots of great information, but the money shot is #12...
'The most important part of greasing is greasing.'
Best delivery of information in nine minutes than nearly all of CZcams. I'll change my habit of "grease tube of the month" trying different types. Thanks for this video.
@ Tractor Mike The best explanation of the different greases I have ever seen.
Excellent information. Too much to remember it all so I saved it to refer back to later, but it seems what I'm using is right for my SCUT.
Lots of good info! I love the guy who commented the best grease is always cheaper than parts! Wish i could beat this into equipment owners heads! Every time i repair a machine i use the best lubricants and filters i can source (based on application). Every time they come back in i get 2 situations. #1 they didnt bother greasing or lubing at all. #2 the guy who only greases things once the metal on metal grinding noise coming from very near every single grease daily sticker and zerk. He then pumps in so much grease that any remaining seals blow out and rainbows of the 5 diffrent types of grease he has tried usuing rather than just replacing the bushing (and hopefully learning a lesson about grease) before the pin or shaft wallers out the bushing hole and niw comes the bill from the machine shop. 10 tubes of ultra synthetic hot pink weinershlidin is far cheaper than any repair option.
Thanks Mike for another informative video. Lots of rain in the forecast......should be a good time to catch up on maintenance.
Interesting talk on grease. Very informative
You've got a great style and "focus" to your videos - just what the viewer wants and "needs" to know. Great Job!
Been running farm equipment since I was about 6 , Now 52 and can say with some authority that proper lubrication will save you a LOT of downtime/headaches. Just finished mowing about 5 acres of heavy grass with a 1025R and brush hog. Greased both the tractor and mower before job as standard operating procedure.
Used a lube shuttle pistol grip and the grease with ceramic in it. figure it's cheap insurance especially because the U joints between the engine and trans look like a real PITA to replace.
Best explanation of grease I’ve ever heard. I have some oil running down my loader so now I understand better. So glad you cover this topic.
I was a bit surprised that he said polyurea based grease is not compatible with other greases. I recall that was pretty well correct when polyurea first came about, but I thought that problem was solved long ago. I have been using shear resistant polyurea grease (John Deere branded) for the past 8 years or longer. I stays in place well and is good for bearings, pivots, and shafts. For loader pins and 3 point pins I prefer a high moly paste.
My latest tractor I bought new a few months ago, and at about 15 hrs I did my first grease job. Don't know what the dealer used but after extensive research and lots of reading about grease types (and watching this video a few times) I settled on polyurea grease (Lucas X-Tra Heavy Duty, the green stuff) and will use it exclusively, i.e. no switching grease types. I was sure to use enough the first time to flush out any old grease just in case there was any compatibility issues between the old & new greases. I grease about every 8-10 hrs due to the fact that I operate primarily in mud & water, and so far the Lucas is holding up really well. And at about $4.50 a tube it isn't breaking the bank to grease often. The addition of a Lock & Lube coupler made a world of difference too, as it makes what was a difficult chore before (getting that dang standard coupler off a zerk) a breeze now so I no longer dread greasing my machine.
Thanks for an excellent show with a knowledgeable guest that gave us some outstanding, unbiased information on a very important subject that affects us all. Well done, Mike! 👍
Thanks for that video, never heard grease explained so well. Learned something today. I have a John Deere zero turn and have always greased the spindle bearings with John Deere poly green grease and ( knock on wood ) so far haven’t had any issues and it just rolled 1200 hours. Oh I also grease them every 25 hours like clockwork. Nice video Mike.
WOW! Excellent information learned a lot thank you Mike. Jerry
I have to change parts so often that I don't have time to grease :-) Great video as always👍
Mike, I do commercial bush hogging for the railroad. I use a high temp 5% Moly grease. I grease often on my compact and large frame utility tractor. I also used the same grease for the zero turn spindles. I haven't had any problems with the grease. I agree, grease often!
Good video, I learned some new things.
Wow Mike that was informative. Thanks
Great info, thanks Mike!
Great job Mike. Useful again!
I enjoy your video mike! Keep up the good work!
Good information! Y’all have a good-un!
The simplest approach to taking all the guess work out of grease selection is to use the grease type that is recommended in your equipment's Owner's Manual. His comments on Polyurea grease is interesting. John Deere specifically states that their SD Polyurea grease is compatible with most other types of grease.
EOSJOE The Deere Polyurea grease may well be compatible. See my post with additional info above.
Very informative, Thanks!!!
Grease is cheaper than parts.
☝️this is true
Great video, I use polyurea grease on my Kubota.
He is exactly right every time you use the loader it needs to be grieved I agree by tractors before I get on them or start them everyday damn, operators don't grease their machines at the end of every day they go find a new job the next day
Interesting video Mike! Thanks for the information!
Mike I'm in the drilling business oreimo Drilling and Blasting companies diesel mechanic I used in my tractor loader grease fitting something called Copper Rock 80s grease with copper in it to reduce wear it seemed to work fantastic the drawback is it is very expensive
Thanks for the info! We have a few machines from about 5,800 lbs to about 55,000 lbs; do we need to have a different grease for the pins and bushings on our bigger machines? Our smallest machines are the skid steer and the little Ford tractor we drag road base out with. We have a lube shuttle grease gun and we love it!
Thanks!
Thank you. I learned alot from this video
Extremely informative. Thanks
I use the Copper Rock on the pens for my quick attach because mine doesn't have grease fitting
Great video.....learned me something...thanks
Very informative, thanks 😁.
That guy talkin about the street running out of the Grease my sub compact tractor the way we work the loader on it a lot we don't overwork the machine but hit get worked a lot that's the reason I put the Copper Rock in there it's made to grease the drill Steel on a rock hammer drill in the thread so they will stay pliable under heat and pressure it does not cause anywhere by self
what does regular greasing mean as far as how often? I would think that a daily use machine would obviously need greasing more often but, is there a rule of thumb so to speak for how often? Also, is there such a thing as greasing too much (to often)? Thanks for some great videos. They have been very helpful in my search for a tractor and attachments as well as learning what to do and what I'll need once I have one.
Usually a sticker on the machine or owners manual will state "grease every 10 hrs" or some such. Kubota loaders have this sicker, rotary cutters too.
That dude's arm must be soaring ;D
....but no info on grease to use on high RPM applications, such as spindle bearings of a zero turn deck..
Good info
Informative. Thanks
Cool thx
What is the length of the hose on the battery lube shuttle? And is there a longer hose option available? What lubeshuttle grease do u recommend for a skid steer. Thanks
Bruce, here's a video on grease selection: czcams.com/video/yqyzW2gC_Pg/video.html. . The standard hose is a 500mm which is a little less than 20 inches. You can order a 40" hose here: asktractormike.com/product/high-pressure-40-inch-hose-with-4-jaw-coupler/. Please let me know if you have any other questions.
I just stay with the grease the tractor maker recommends and I am fine. Right now I have to great both of my tractors and lube my vehicles also since I have been doing that when I feel like it or take them to one shop to have them greased and the oil changed.
is it ok to use a single grease for both high speed spindles and loader pins?
They used to call zerks “alemites”
How sore was your arm after that interview. 😉🙂
I wish he would tell me how to fix my Lube Shuttle grease gun.The thing didn't even last for a full tube before it quick working.
Patrick, I'd bet it's an air lock. Push up about 3/4"-1" of grease out of the tube you're putting in and I'd bet it works. I've not known of a single instance where that gun has failed. If there is something wrong with it, shoot me an e-mail at mike@asktractormike.com and we'll get you taken care of.
If I was him I would have rather held the mic myself.
In our part of the country Mike we say I believe the grease worms eat it up in other words the guy who owned it did not greasy
I Grease every time I fill my tank up witch is about every 5-6 hours. later
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Just don't mix Lithium with Synthetic.
You have some left arm if you've no bother holding a mike completely outstretched like that for any protracted length of time.
Can you not tell I'm a body-builder :)?
Ádd grease shd
Grease is grease... except when it isn’t. 🤔