I'm a male, and I blame men for this problem. Brothers please stop simping for women on social media and in real life, what you're doing is just raising their standards and ego.
These are inherent differences though. It was already demonstrated that men rate women on average more attractive than men. Ergo, more women will receive attention/sexual interest than men.
@nojus baltramiejunas Yes, I was talking about sex only. Ask to see your good looking guy friends online dating profiles. You'd be shocked at the girls talking dirty to them about meeting. Anyone chick that is obese (percentage overweight) is automatically less than a 5. Not so in other countries or in the past in USA, when you might have 1 fat chick out of 40. 37 percent more women are obese than men.
Correct. Some models look good, but that doesn't mean you're attracted to them. The only thing you can do is to be the best version of yourself with looksmaxing, social/personal development and dressing nice while you take care of your financial status. If you do this you WILL get women.
Can attest, been rated a 6 or fiver. My past success with women seemed to double as Iâve been learning Vietnamese for some time and can strike good conversation with any viet girl.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Yes, but those eyes and the brain that interprets the images and patterns were built through evolution by natural selection.
It's not just dating. Looks have an exponential effect on every aspect of your life starting right from birth. It strongly influences every single human interaction you experience from the moment you open your eyes thus dictating your understanding of the world. Attractive babies see happier faces and get more attention, which makes them feel secure. Attractive children receive more social interactions, more praise, better grades, and more leniency to make mistakes, which allows them to develop better social skills faster and be vastly more confident overall. Attractive adults get more dating opportunities, more job/career opportunities, better pay, bigger promotions, and are generally viewed as better people in every way on top of receiving the benefits mentioned previously. There is no other trait that has anywhere near as much impact on your overall success in life, and it's mostly outside of our control.
As an apparantly not too bad looking guy, sometimes you get people who just hate you because they're jealous or something. I'm not even a Chad, more like a ~6-7 in looks I guess. Everything below 8 doesn't really work on datingapps though and women want the complete package, not just looks.
What's even more maddening about it is that the culture is constantly bombarded with and distracted by bullshit identity politics, which undermines the real inequalities of wealth and attractiveness, both of which already tend to go hand in hand. Also, half the population seems completely oblivious and/or mostly uncaring about this dilemma, especially when it benefits them.
We'll said. And it compounds. Imagine the compound effect of that every day of your life. And then think about the negative compounding effect you'd receive as a sub 5.
The phrase "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" was coined by an ugly man. Just like the phrase "money can't buy happiness" was coined by a poor man. It's nothing but massive cope.
A few months ago i was having a conversation with a woman and somehow the conversation drifted towards dating. I told her i don't have much success in dating because i'm ugly and obviously she started with the tired old BS " Nah you're looking great" and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" etc. I told her i have a mirror at home and i'm a grown ass man i know when i see an ugly face but she kept insisting i'm attractive. So i asked if she would like to go for coffee just the two of us the next day. The look on her face instantly changed from neutral to worried đ.
@@lori311 yea cause most women today believe 80% of men are unattractive. the same men of 100 years ago would never of gotten a chance to breed. women do need to humble themselves and tone down hypergamy. avg decent men should not be seen as ugly but here we are in 2023 western society
@@lori311 we find these studies because our whole lives we get bullied by women, called names and insult about our looks and things we cant change. its all so tiresome.... you wont understand the new invisible men of society
My mother is someone who used phrases like beauty is in the eye of the holder. Meanwhile she - talked about how awful people on tv looked because of their big ears or badly concealed balding - married my dad who was tall, athletic, objectively handsome (often got mistaken for a certain actor), and had a decent job (she left a guy with an equally good if not slightly better job for him) yet she still criticised him for slightly crowded bottom teeth (and uses this barely noticeable 'flaw' as evidence that looks had nothing to do with falling for him) Both of my parents will say that looks don't matter. They also believe that everybody goes to heaven when they die. It was easier for older generations to hold onto these luxurious fantasies because they mostly married for life before they were 30 and didn't really have access to people beyond their physical vicinity. With the studies we have now it is possible to get a more accurate answer to these questions, these weren't available in the past either.
So what? Her statement did not opposed her actions. According to her, beauty was in the eye of holder and IN HER EYE her husband looked good and tv anchors looked bad.
@@basedpatriotLT My dad looked good to everybody, he was an objectively handsome man. I take your point though, the phrase 'Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder' when examined could be argued to be true even if all beholders judge beauty in a similarly objective fashion. My mother would argue that looks don't matter, I disagree. She had multiple men trying to court her because of her good looks. She happened to marry a very good looking man. She left a perfectly normal guy with a good job for my dad, who didn't have a better job. Was this all because he was able to display a great personality to her from the get go or did his looks play a part? She claimed that looks didn't matter, while her actions and words at other times (judging the people on television based on their image out loud, obsessing over minor image 'defects') contradicted her. That is the point I was making.
My mom tried to justify getting with my unattractive father by his "good heart" even tho she literally had me in her earlier thirties after dating men she considers to be more attractive than my father who she literally made sit in the friend zone for SEVEN years. I l told her that I wish she told me from an earlier age that looks are 95% of the equation so that I could of hit the gym sooner but thankfully im 23 now and God blessed me with facial hair and a twenty pound weight for my bicep and tricep curls I pray every man can at least looksmax enough find a cute 7 with a good heart.
Bro "a cute 7" lol thats movie star level looks if your not a 7/10-8/10 or at least a 6/10 with a good body an the her preferd race she picks your not gona get a 7/10 chick bro sorry to burst your bubble
@@Lightskinemagic1995 Demitri please read this I hate to give you hope because when you have hope you know that you cant quit and be lazy, but I was a tiktoker who did street interviews in Miami, NYC and DC, and 85% of women between 19-22 dont know their true smv even with the advancement of technology and absolutely no-one and I mean no one does cold approaches anymore outside of a bar or nightclub. They are out there but you have to go out your way DURING THE DAY to find them just be respectful of their personal space. I pulled 8's and 9's in Miami simply by being the guy that was there at the right place at the right time. However, you have to have mental fortitude that 99% of men even chads dont have to read women's body language like wheat waffles teaches so you can know when to respectfully walk away and to handle ALOT of rejections. This male supermodel in Miami was hitting me up last year to get me to hang out so he could pull girls off me cuz he doesn't have my confidence. So if youre a 6 or 7 right now you still have a shot. But as we know 99% of men dont even have the funds to cold approach or the balls so here we are
@@Lightskinemagic1995 Also looking at your media you have chad potential but to be honest you look like you cant dress but I aint gonna put you up on clothes game for free lmao.
hey, let me help you out by dispelling another myth because it seems you've been misled. Beyond attaining an optimal bodyfat level, gym is cope. Muscle is mostly irrelevant. Face, height, frame is what constitutes "looks" for males. Your arms won't land you a 7. Sorry bub.
They lie because they absolutely terrified of what society thinks about them. Society also protects them. If women come outright saying looks come first then less men will give them attention, less friends in the friendzone and overall less guys to use and abuse. What it comes down to is women can't live without attention from men. And also women are socially superior to men so it's in their nature to deceive and avoid physical harm at all costs
Bingo. You can see this too in the jubilee video where they had 5 girls rate each other from least to most attractive and the fat girl was put in 3rd place⊠and they bring up personality when that has nothing to do with looks.
I encourage everyone to try to go out with a group of women in a city on a bar/club crawl (could be coworkers, friends, whomever). Pay attention to their conversations and behavior. They will Blackpill you harder than any Wheat Waffles video.
Absolutely absolutely. Cuz I live in 6.5 million large city in North America. N i always live , partied, worked,,,,downtown core. Literally Most Dating coaches even themselves have very sheltered views that men will blindly blind blindly believe them. In parties,,,as son as a hot guy shows up,,,all d d eyes on hottie. D Normie thats in suits or dress shirts suddently just become filler. Cuz we went tor King St west,,,literally down Financial District (on king street) partied all the hottest dudes look like those guys from d Netflix Show Suits show up. Ud see how all d girls go straight to the hottest dude. I dont blame them cuz everyone does. :)
Also a few times, , I was attending my gf(white girl)âa dinner with all her white female friends. I am like the ONLY Asian. The Quiet werid awkward female lawyer in her late 20s early 30sâŠlike literally long face, (serah Jessica Parker), blue eye, very hard curly hair, BIG GUM(prob a Jewish ) , with larger nose. Like WONT even frigin talk to me. When I tried to feel bad for her, n make a polite conversationâŠshe like plainly ignore me like she is CLEARLY ANTI social n really Anti social, quiet n want NOT to be spoken to. N a couple times later, d same group. I got my then bf(now husband)âŠto come down meet my gf before she heading back to Australia. D moment my dude showed upâŠthis frigin LONG face, Serah Jessica Parker like person,,,REALLY went from quiet rabbit to like Arrogant LOUD, Flamboyant HYPER, engaging thing. Its like literally SHOCKING. Right off the bat she was like cozy up to my dude(she knew heâs with me, like heâs my bf). Kept trying to ask him Where do u work, Where do u live, âOHâŠ.WHAT DOES YOUR GIRLFRIEND DO???â . I am like WTFâŠ. I tried to have a convo with her like 10 min prior, she knod n really did NOT feel like to get to know me, now u wanna know what I Do for work, n so much about me?? What cuz u think u are White so u have a chance with him , that I am Asian normal looking scalp , i dont have plastic surgery n I dont have huge gum, loop nose, long scalp, around chin, big gum, long face . VERY Tight fuzzy curly hair!! IT WAS INSANE..how immediate preditorial that person was. Literallly she thought âoh HE is my type i am going to squash that Asian person out of pic cuz he wants me, cuz i am whiteâ NO đź â he does NOT like white girls. My i met my husband long ago when we were teens. That he thinks most white girls makes him feel like his sister. He went to school at surburb that full of Indian ppl n Asian. â It really does NOT matter what ppl think their chance are. It matters what d other ppl meets their --type. I have like small clean nose, small mouth, small chin, big eyes, long lashes, clean jar line. I look way more close looking to my husband by facial structure than Serah Jessicaâs Parker looking person with big gum on long face. Its really strange to describe it. Like u cant just do plastic surgery to change a long Narrow head, or invert the gum. Its so unusual sighting. đźđź it sounds wrong for me to say it, but I was the one feeling bad that she was so Quiet trying to Make her Feel More Comfortable by Making polite conversation with her. What a douche!!!!! đź
@@mmkt9487 I am chill as Cucumber đ„ :):) u might want to Off yr mid pony . Cuz taking ur time to tell anyone âcalm down ! Writing that much is waste of time is called âprojection â ! Projection what u (self ) feel /narrative into others to feel above âđŒ:) in psychology terms .
beauty is objective. but taste is subjective. some people like people with longer philtrums more than with shorter ones, or some people prefer pretty boys over masculine men.
It exists but in completely different way than some people think. It just means that if there are three or more people that are equally attractive in one place, it'll be subjective which one we'll be attracted to the most.
Correct. The phrase just means that one woman may consider Alen DeLon a 10/10 and Brand Pit just a 9/10 and Clint Eastwood as an 8/10 , while another woman will have Brand Pit as a 10 , Clint as a 9 and DeLon as an 8.
Beauty becomes subjective once you reach a high level of objective beauty. Some people prefer blond hair, others brunettes. Some think people get more attracted when wearing glasses but thats only the case once you crossed the line at around 7/10. Up here, beauty truly is subjective because everyone is beautiful up here.
I went from 387-lbs to 191-lbs over about a 5 year period. Afterward, it's like I've stepped into a completely different world. I'm treated with respect and regard by most men. I've gotten compliments from women of all ages. The difference is night and day. I don't think looks will nessesary sustain that state with someone you've known without good character traits, but it's the difference between strangers feeling like you must build rapport with them, and strangers feeling like they must build rapport with you. Strangers usually speak to me in a rapport building way... it's still so awkward to get used to.
Exactly Its more like this Good looks will make people interested in you but personality will help you to keep the people interested in you Thats how i view it at least But still in my opinion Attractive people in general, regardless of culture or race get treated better than unattractive people
Life on easy mode if you won the genetic lottery, life on hard mode if you lost. Thatâs the truth but sometimes the truth is too harsh to handle especially on a societal level. Thatâs why stupid phrases like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" exists.
And besides easy or hard mode, if you happen to be disabled or hideously unattractive, it's like you're playing a downgraded version of the game of life where core features are missing (like having romantic relationships).
a lot of things factor in to your overall facial appearance (good oral posture, etc) which can be changed, but noone will tell you about that as a kid/teen (maybe your dentist will, but they profit off of poor facial development)
I agree with this strongly. The other day i was in class and i mentioned how the villain in the book we was reading was ugly and that it was a pattern. A girl then replied that beauty is subjective and when i was about to argue, the teacher purposely moved on. Off topic, but the girl who said this wasnât aesthetic pleasing, if i was honest, so maybe like Wheat waffle covered in his video, peopleâs upbringing can delude them.
so true, i notice so many trolls online these days say that ugly people are bad. like society seriously wants to paint a picture that all guys who are not blessed with genetics are evil
5:46 I already tried this question, they simply don't understand it, using % with girls is too much for them. They will answer something like "you overthink this, love doesn't care", then they'll add "you'll find someone if you just continue to try, you're a good person".
Trying to use unfiltered logic on the gender that sees everything through a layer of emotion usually doesn't go well. You have to phrase things through emotion to get them to see your point. Kinda sad that we have to do this, because it means that on issues that require 100% logic, we *have* to sugarcoat the truth or even lie to get anything to pass because they hold 50% of the voting block.
Trust me itâs the other way around. They know the truth, they simply gaslight you into thinking that she is a fool. That is she thinks you are a idiot
Very likely. As the guy you must make the approach however, but the response you get from when you do go and speak with them should tell you where you stand quickly. If you're around here long you'll understand that if you want to be successful with women you absolutely must look as attractive as possible. When it comes to initial attraction women want to feel like they're choosing the best option they can from their available options. From there more matters, but if you can't even get your foot in the door then that other stuff doesn't even have a chance to matter. I'd say do this thing called "looksmaxing" then practice approaching women (respectfully) and getting rejected over and over again until you're more comfortable with it. Probably best to not do that at your church just yet as hings could become awkward. Just my 2 cents.
I think one of the reasons parents lie to their children about looks is so they can gaslight and guilttrip them into thinking that it's because of their behaviour they are rejected. That the child is not nice enough and ungrateful. Especially when narcissistic parents are involved who do everything to manipulate their child to use them only for their own self interest. This creates ugly pleasing nice guys that are even more unattractive.
Worse thing is to be labeled the creepy guy that wants to be friends with everyone. I donât even open up to people anymore. Just myself and my alone, shamed and ugly thoughts.
This guy knows what he's talking about. One of the points he made on looks maxing has stuck with me. It may boost you up only a point or so, but not doing it can knock you down 3 or 4 points. Think about anytime you've gone out to an event and realized you were under dressed, meaning you were the one person not dressed for the occasion. That's what missing out on looks maxing does in my opinion.
If so, explain the massive population of India and China, and the fact that South and Southeast Asian birth rates are higher than Europe and North America.
correct, the preferences have evolved to detect good genes, thus fairly universal, but still subjective in the strict sense that perception of beauty or ugliness only exists within a mind, it doesn't exist like atoms or something independent of of a mind. Put another way, if all consciousness cease to exist, so does the perception of beauty, whereas atoms will still be around. Other examples of mental constructs are, value, morals, meaning etc.
Also, beauty is somewhat market dependent, in the sense that you want 'goods' popular in the market....in other words; you want children that do well in the sexual market. Hence why women care what other women like, which creates a positiv feedback loop where what's deemed attractive becomes more attractive đ.
Women: "Beauty is subjective. You might think a girl is a 3 but some other guy will think she's a 10" Also women: (only finding 4.5% of men attractive).
@@loungeroomrecords But NO man rates even a 4 on a scale of 1 to 5! See Datclysm. They find NO men to be "best" and ALL women to be "best"! It's female supremacy. They want a female 0 to be above the best man on Earth.
@@bigneiltoo yes spot on ! 100% right u can be an Adonis and still there would be flaws, as according to them men ainât shit. But taking their money is ok. It would be best if guys really stuck to no SIMP September and checked out of dating, OF, and instagram for at least a whole month and gave them Zero attention to see how an apocalypse would come.
The amount of delusions in these comments. This is reality. Beauty is and always has been subjective, it is common logical sense, this is why there's ALWAYS people arguing "no they're ugly" "no they're not". That's why every looks rating scale is different. People have different preferences on looks, it's common logical sense and there is no objective beauty, no one views it the same, which is a fact.
Fun fact: studies have shown that even newborn babies can recognize facial beauty, by staring longer at the same faces that adults also find attractive. It's true that 'beauty' is not subjective. This type of thing, interestingly, also extends to landscapes - humans (across cultures) generally find the same type of landscapes/environments that our prehistoric ancestors evolved in to be the most beautiful: open spaces, with scatterings of nearby trees, with evidence of water and animals life
Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Andrew Tate spent millions getting women around him and these same women wrote statements for his imprisonment where as a young Leonardo DiCaprio lookalike could get all those same women for free and with no heat.
Yeah Andrew Tate is NOT UGLY. MOST of ppl who are Bald are NOT looking like Andrew Tate. Most women will not deal with Andrew Tate but he is just as little as a filler for woman so they gain bragging rights. as much as he is trying to boast.
As I have seen in a few posts, it is an outdated phrase. A long time ago when your options were limited to only a few hundred miles of a central point.you couldn't just depend on physical appearance. So beauty was in the eye of the beholder because other attributes could improve one's attractiveness as a mate. But now, with most people thinking that entire countries or even the world are the pool to choose a mate. Beauty has become just the physical appearance because the pool is so large that people feel that the traits that use to bolster an average appearance can be found in a physically attractive (beautiful) person if they just look harder. Thus, the eyes of the beholder have stopped looking for traits to offset the physical defficiencies, making it less subjective than a time when the phrase was coined. No more trying to find a diamond in the rough because with so many diamonds to choose from, you can eventually just find the cut and finished diamond you want.
The proverb "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" was actually true, but only in the previous generations where dating and relationships were normal. Now the proverb is gone dead today.
I would say the opposite, before it was seen that 90% of relationships, in courtships the woman and man had a similar level of beauty, today you see that 90% of courtships the woman is more attractive than the man
@@estudio-ve7qm I can agree to your statement, though it may vary from different couples. But back then, women were all equally and uniquely beautiful not only from the outside but from the inside as well. Before technology, most women were also innocent back then.
I disagree Look at History People always cared about looks Especially kings that wanted to marry the most beautiful women And women only married men because they couldn't work for themselves mostly Sure true love was real .But it was uncommon just like today . Caring about looks is a biological thing Culture has an impact on it sure But biology is the main thing
â@@TheHarwoodButcher. I respectfully disagree I don't think you have any evidence for your arguments Women were not innocent in the past Like i said please look at History Many women committed horrible crimes Women that were rulers were just as bad as some kings Trust me When you know history You would understand the world better History taught me humans didn't change much We still make the same mistakes we made 1000 years ago
This is exactly what it means. Some will prefer Tyrone, others chang, others Chad. Some prefer skateboard Chad. Some prefer Chad who plays chess. Some prefer the Chad who can put a ball in a hoop etc. Some prefer dr Mike the fake doctor Chad. That's what it actually means.
Yeah... Some people prefer an Indian, Arabic, Italian Chad (like I can), some people prefer a German Chad... Some people prefer Sofia Vergara with bleached blond hair... Some prefer Monica Bellucci, Megan Fox, Madison Beer or some miss USA winner...
@@Gigaover also body type- curvy vs more slender. facial features- fuller lips vs thinner, etc. and a certain threshold in looks. a girl who is an objective 6-7 with features you like is a better than an objective 8 with features your not the most attracted too. nice smile, full lips and a nice rack and I melt. haha
@@richardw3347 This is exactly the same conclusion I came to. I believe physical attraction is subjective & beauty is objective. There is a difference between the two, even though they both go hand in hand. Although what I say is mostly true regarding what men like. It may or may not be the same for what women like.
To certain degree there is still subjectivity to it like black males being more/less attractive than white. I find that about 80% of all features are objective, but still there are differences
As a 60 year old with lots of experience witnessing, women's reaction to an individual man's looks, whether he be a sub5 or a 9, is strikingly consistant from woman to woman to woman. If you spin a 360 in bright lights, and 2 women rate you, you can expect the same consistancy from 1000 more. If you are unattactive and " there is someone for everyone" and you actually land a GF, it's not based your looks. She's settled for your inferior looks based on what you can provide her and what she can pull. And when these women say " I always see this georgous woman in the arms of an unattractive man" there is always a caveat to that situation. He's freindzoned, her brother, or her emotional and financial tampon BF and she gets Chad on the side for her carnal needs. There are ZERO, and I mean ZERO chicks dating a sub 5 because he turns her on physically
Beauty can be subjective, but on a much smaller scale. If you have 2 objective 7s for example and u have to decide which one you prefer itâs subjective. Itâs the same with the dad bud thing. There are certain women who do prefer a little (really small) belly over a sixpack, but only when the guy is already objectively attractive in the first place. When we talk about preferences we talk about small differences between people who are objectively attractive.
Exactly. Take the last 2 subjects on the beginning test. The man who was considered the more attractive one was unattractive to me, which the beefy lumberjack was absolutely my type.
I got a looks rating from you a few months back and took your advice to (even though I was already in good shape) to lean out to show more of my bone structure I stack amazing skin care with that and it took me into the Chad range. And trust me, you KNOW when youâre there. Womanâs behavior from (4 to 6 men) & (7 to 8 men) are night and day differences! 4 &below - avoidance 5- friendzone (60-80%) 6- (Some romance with effort/attention) 7- true attraction 8- Passion/Can get away with almost anything. As a man whose crossed the range through my life from teen 5- Adult 8 My advice for all men is do WHATEVER you must to stack advantage until you reach at least the 6.5 range this is the required range to get laid in 2023
@@estudio-ve7qm I would rate that man at 7(minimum) 7.5(Maximum). Heâs good looking enough to get attraction from the woman but likely she either has some reservation about him that the attraction isnt quite strong enough to overcome or she already has a viable candidate she wants for the relationship role and she wants to keep it open for him in case he steps up to the plate. At 8 and above level the man decides the type of relationship they have, the woman has 0 leverage.
@@dorn885 I donât judge pay to play at all, itâs 100% viable, itâs only drawback is that it lacks the true attraction, admiration, and desire that comes through in those 7+ situations. It does have its benefits when you have the money to P2P you has unlimited access, itâs basically the demo version of being an 8+
@@jalenprice23 I am a 4/10. I was a plan B in a six year relationship - she admitted that the attractive ones dont want her ... fcked me really over, because I truly loved her. I tried really hard to date after my first and only long term relationship, no matter how far away. Result: Fly through half Europe for ONE date, then she decides to not like me (after writing with each other for two months. This happened several times in similar variations. I spend money to be heart broken, lied to, being used and abused. I really really tried hard. I am now 37 and dont care anymore. Instead of going on dates, I use the money for paytoplay: I have open relationships, meet one around five times, then change. Almost every single guy in the western world can afford such a fling once a year (less is more!, their age stays the same, so no need to hurry). Of course she would not date me without paying, of course she does not find me hot, but she does not backstab me, which is priceless. If you have to decide to pay with cash or with dignity, always pay cash.
Itâs a very ugly(no pun intended) feeling, to come to the realization that women just donât find me attractive, and donât want me. It must be similar to a child slowly realizing that they are unwanted by their parents. JustâŠâŠan ugly feeling.
Any young man who actually believes women see you for what is on the inside I urge you to do what I did when I was 19 and get a job at a restaurant with lots of waitresses. You will witness some of the most base acts of inhumanity from these women. Even the most average women sees herself as a perfect ten and they will ignore most of the men they work with but maybe two guys. I knew one cook who was a horrible person and slept with at least 4 of them including one who was married. I had an assistant manager who probably slept with half of them and they have NO shame about all sharing the same man, none.
Funnily enough, I've actually used the "Then why do you wear makeup?" argument when somebody, typically a woman, tries to tell me that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. They always get flustered. You can almost see the gears turning in their heads. Most of them have tried to tell me that wearing makeup is different. Right. Okay. Got it. đ
So beauty standards are a real thing they are restricting and cookie cutter but beauty itself can be seen in so many forms and everyone is capable of seeing beauty outside of standards.
Good and fair analysis. I want to add a positive truth found in research: being in love with someone increases your perceived visual attractveness of them. Getting to that point is of course more difficult when raw attractiveness is low. But a pair of 4s and 5s who have grown to love each other very much will sort of halo effect each other.
Took me a long time to realize people lie bc my friends would keep telling me how great i am and yet would never want to set me up with their good looking friends/relatives/coworkers.
My life in a nutshell, 0-14: cute kid got all the valentines cards. 14-17: Awkward looking "too skinny, 6feet 120 lbs", only had 2 girlfriends. 18-25: 8 out of10, 6 feet 170-180, 7% body fat, got just about any girl. 26-30 - 200lbs, Chubby and clueless as to why More woman aren't being as easygoing with me. 35+ (honest female friend said I need to loose weight) back to 10% body fat 175 lbs 8.3 overall in looks (according to photofeeler) LOOKS MATTER!
"only had 2 girlfriends between 14-17" ONLY? Yeah, and I didn't get a girlfriend until 23 and I was skinny entirely up to that point. That was definitely your face that carried you.
@Lord Sergi From Spain đȘđž do everything you can to get you jawline showing. I have a nice "gonial" angle and chin area a Literally woman have no clue as to why they're more attracted to me. After HS i dated both the Homecoming queen, and the most popular girl in school. She literally didnt know I existed until senior year. Looks are everything. I only wish I paid more attention in my 20's.
Think about how hyper concerned women are with their looks. Think about how cosmetics and makeup are multi-billion dollar industries. Think about how concerned they are with their weight, their hair, their clothes. Then imagine believing them when they say looks don't matter. They are projecting, plain and simple.
That's not how it works. Men also concerned with their masculinity, status and money but they see these things in women as a downside. Women think that if they find something attractive or they are concerned with something then the opposite gender must also find it attractive and be concerned with it. When men don't think like that.
The only situation I can imagine where beauty would be in the eye of the beholder is if you were forced to pick one person from a group of people with the exact same rating (sub 6 excluded)
The test at the start proved we all know how an attractive person looks like, even without being attracted to the same gender. I'm sure we can all look in a mirror and gauge how attractive we are, meaning the unattractive obese women who rate themselves as a 10... let me stop there.
I have some editions: - Women seem to be programmed to avoid all conflict, especially with men. Possibly because they are physically weaker, and might get slapped into next week if they tell a man he he is a 3/10 and there is nothing he can do about it. - As far as I can tell, people end up with friends, romances etc with people who have the same values as themselves ("Birds of a feather... "). So within VALUES and degree of maturity, it is in the eye of the beholder. For example I happen to find a woman who is on Tinder far less attractive, than her twin sister who goes from long relationship to long relationship. Because looks are primary, but values I find to be secondary characteristics in attractiveness. (Job, car, material goods being 3rthiary).
"Women tend to avoid conflicts"? You've got to be shitting me! In What alternative universe is this true? A huge percent of them are absolute bitches and will nag, yell at or scream at their husbands or boyfriends relentlessly.
As a half white-half Asian guy whoâs lived in both the west and in Asia, Iâd say that despite certain elements being universally attractive, beauty standards can highly vary by culture. For example, try comparing Chris Hemsworth and Jungkook from Bts. They are both regarded as attractive globally, but each of them do better in their given niches. For example, if you looked like Chris Hemsworth and you lived in South Korea, people might think youâre handsome, but you wouldnât have as broad of an appeal as Jungkook from Bts. The same would apply if a guy that looked like Jungkook went to the US. So Iâd argue that attractiveness is about 70% objective with the other 30% varying by audience demographic and culture.
I always thought of it like this: beauty is composed of a subjective part (your preferences, if you like tattoos, skin color, hair color, etc) and an objective part, which is attraction (it is more measurable and scientifically proven, since they are characteristics that biologically favors evolution and demonstrates good health, such as symmetry, healthy hair, physique, etc.) Maybe 30-70%?
Great video. Can you do a video about how your style and fashion can boost your attractiveness? Such as dressing well as a 4 wonât do anything to boost your attractiveness, while dressing well as a 7 can potentially boost you up to an 8.
Dressing well may be a sign of status, stability etc. traits women look for in a partner specially as they age. Even if it wonât make you physically more attractive it will still help
Itâs actually interesting watching how ascetic looks or objective looks have changed throughout the media history. If you watch older movies, shows, or tv news clips pre-1980s or 90s, the actors or presenters were more slender generally, and their faces were a wide range of Chad faces to normal faces. Something changed beginning in the last half of the 1980s and really accelerated in the late 1990s where all actors and tv presenters were chosen based on how well defined a Chad or Stacy they are. Even the extras, look handsome or beautiful now. By looks standards, some of the most iconic actors would probably not be hired now, like Sean Connery or Sylvester Stallone. Even David Duchovny, has a rather normie look, yet he became the hero of the XFiles. Itâs hard to say when the focus on promoting the Chad look began, or where it started.
If you did this with different cultures, you will find that that each culture has a few different types of beautiful people, soft cute features, or sharp angular features. Then if you examine those features the people that have the right harmony will look alike cross culturally. Beauty is hardwired into us. I got 9, i found the girl on the right to be more my type. Her features were slightly more "ethnic" compared to the traditional caucasian girl. Good video.
I'm sure i've seen some studies somewhere debunking the term too. Now unless my memory is just convoluting separate events, i'm sure they even directly addressed this very term verbatim within the study and highlighted that objective reality doesnt support it. Have to say that game you made the viewer play at the start was a very good move. As predicted. 10/10. Didn't even have to think about it. I imagine there will be a few people who will try and be like "well I got 8-9/10 so gotcha"... Ignoring that they still get most correct. Them having a niche as an exception to the rule disproves nothing. And anyone claiming that they got most if not all of them wrong are simply lying or intentionally played the game backwards because they knew what it was meant to highlight. In which case, playing the game the opposite way still confirms what the game set out to highlight since they're instead choosing who they feel is the 'least attractive' just to cling onto their bluepilled deluded bs.
Round 2: both are in the same league, the only difference is that one is smiling but both of them are below average. Round 3: the two women are also in the same league and most men would accept any one them. Round 4: the left one is heavily photoshoped. Round 5: the two are in the same league because left has better facial features but brown eyes while the right one has weaker features but blue eyes. Round 7: both have prey eyes and non of them is attractive. Round 8: both are totally unattractive. Round 10: the guy on the left is ripped, that's his only advantage but if the guy on the right would be also ripped with below 10% bodyfat, he would have much more attractive face.
Let me say what my mom told me as a kid "beauty is subjective when you are desperate, insecure or have no options".
ha! Your mom is brutally honest
Based mother
i wish my mother was that smart.
Brutal answer, but absolutely correct.
Consider yourself lucky for having a parent that didn't lie to you about the crude reality of the world.
Woah đą
I'm a male, and I blame men for this problem. Brothers please stop simping for women on social media and in real life, what you're doing is just raising their standards and ego.
I've been saying this for YEARS đŻ
These are inherent differences though. It was already demonstrated that men rate women on average more attractive than men. Ergo, more women will receive attention/sexual interest than men.
Why are you on every video I watch? đ
Simping ruining all mans life inculde simps...
Men created the system of which women live and participate in. So anytime men complain about it just lol
As a 3 out of 10 I can assure you, beauty is NOT in the eyes of the beholder.
You should be able to get women in the 2-4 range. Instead those women are getting 7 guys thanks to this market.
Na bro, you just need to hold frame and have an abundance mindset. For a limited only, I have on sale my program, that is sure to...
@nojus baltramiejunas Yes, I was talking about sex only. Ask to see your good looking guy friends online dating profiles. You'd be shocked at the girls talking dirty to them about meeting. Anyone chick that is obese (percentage overweight) is automatically less than a 5. Not so in other countries or in the past in USA, when you might have 1 fat chick out of 40. 37 percent more women are obese than men.
Exactly
@@JustNo8808 nope those delusional women are still chasing chads and chad kites. Thatâs the reason why 80% of men are sexless
Beauty is not subjective, but what niche you fall into is.
Best way to put it
Correct. Some models look good, but that doesn't mean you're attracted to them. The only thing you can do is to be the best version of yourself with looksmaxing, social/personal development and dressing nice while you take care of your financial status. If you do this you WILL get women.
Facts exactly this
Can attest, been rated a 6 or fiver. My past success with women seemed to double as Iâve been learning Vietnamese for some time and can strike good conversation with any viet girl.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Yes, but those eyes and the brain that interprets the images and patterns were built through evolution by natural selection.
It's not just dating. Looks have an exponential effect on every aspect of your life starting right from birth. It strongly influences every single human interaction you experience from the moment you open your eyes thus dictating your understanding of the world.
Attractive babies see happier faces and get more attention, which makes them feel secure.
Attractive children receive more social interactions, more praise, better grades, and more leniency to make mistakes, which allows them to develop better social skills faster and be vastly more confident overall.
Attractive adults get more dating opportunities, more job/career opportunities, better pay, bigger promotions, and are generally viewed as better people in every way on top of receiving the benefits mentioned previously.
There is no other trait that has anywhere near as much impact on your overall success in life, and it's mostly outside of our control.
As an apparantly not too bad looking guy, sometimes you get people who just hate you because they're jealous or something. I'm not even a Chad, more like a ~6-7 in looks I guess. Everything below 8 doesn't really work on datingapps though and women want the complete package, not just looks.
What's even more maddening about it is that the culture is constantly bombarded with and distracted by bullshit identity politics, which undermines the real inequalities of wealth and attractiveness, both of which already tend to go hand in hand. Also, half the population seems completely oblivious and/or mostly uncaring about this dilemma, especially when it benefits them.
@@tvh024 Dating apps is for 7 and 8 men to fuck 4 women. If you want women from your league you have to try to flirt in other environments
We'll said. And it compounds. Imagine the compound effect of that every day of your life. And then think about the negative compounding effect you'd receive as a sub 5.
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The phrase "Beauty Is In The Eye of The Beholder" is a expression of toxic positivity.
Facts. Itâs just not true.
The phrase "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" was coined by an ugly man. Just like the phrase "money can't buy happiness" was coined by a poor man. It's nothing but massive cope.
kinda off topic but when my mom said "Beauty Is In The Eye of The Beholder" my sis thought she said "beauty is in a folder" đ
Exactly
It's a saying & likelihood for raising a person's self-love & self-esteem to an extent đ€Ł
A few months ago i was having a conversation with a woman and somehow the conversation drifted towards dating. I told her i don't have much success in dating because i'm ugly and obviously she started with the tired old BS " Nah you're looking great" and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" etc. I told her i have a mirror at home and i'm a grown ass man i know when i see an ugly face but she kept insisting i'm attractive. So i asked if she would like to go for coffee just the two of us the next day. The look on her face instantly changed from neutral to worried đ.
@@lori311 so you proved him right women dont want ugly men
@@lori311 yea cause most women today believe 80% of men are unattractive. the same men of 100 years ago would never of gotten a chance to breed. women do need to humble themselves and tone down hypergamy. avg decent men should not be seen as ugly but here we are in 2023 western society
@@lori311 we find these studies because our whole lives we get bullied by women, called names and insult about our looks and things we cant change. its all so tiresome.... you wont understand the new invisible men of society
@@lori311 stop giving him false hope. You're the exact kind of woman who is part of the problem as the video describes
Never tell a girl that you think you're ugly its cringe
My mother is someone who used phrases like beauty is in the eye of the holder.
Meanwhile she
- talked about how awful people on tv looked because of their big ears or badly concealed balding
- married my dad who was tall, athletic, objectively handsome (often got mistaken for a certain actor), and had a decent job (she left a guy with an equally good if not slightly better job for him) yet she still criticised him for slightly crowded bottom teeth (and uses this barely noticeable 'flaw' as evidence that looks had nothing to do with falling for him)
Both of my parents will say that looks don't matter. They also believe that everybody goes to heaven when they die.
It was easier for older generations to hold onto these luxurious fantasies because they mostly married for life before they were 30 and didn't really have access to people beyond their physical vicinity.
With the studies we have now it is possible to get a more accurate answer to these questions, these weren't available in the past either.
Well as a son/daughter you should say this to your mum. If this was my mum i really told her the truth.
Short ppl go to hell lmao theyre manlets
So what? Her statement did not opposed her actions. According to her, beauty was in the eye of holder and IN HER EYE her husband looked good and tv anchors looked bad.
Very interesting and quite valid post thanks for sharing.
@@basedpatriotLT My dad looked good to everybody, he was an objectively handsome man.
I take your point though, the phrase 'Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder' when examined could be argued to be true even if all beholders judge beauty in a similarly objective fashion.
My mother would argue that looks don't matter, I disagree. She had multiple men trying to court her because of her good looks. She happened to marry a very good looking man. She left a perfectly normal guy with a good job for my dad, who didn't have a better job. Was this all because he was able to display a great personality to her from the get go or did his looks play a part?
She claimed that looks didn't matter, while her actions and words at other times (judging the people on television based on their image out loud, obsessing over minor image 'defects') contradicted her.
That is the point I was making.
My mom tried to justify getting with my unattractive father by his "good heart" even tho she literally had me in her earlier thirties after dating men she considers to be more attractive than my father who she literally made sit in the friend zone for SEVEN years. I l told her that I wish she told me from an earlier age that looks are 95% of the equation so that I could of hit the gym sooner but thankfully im 23 now and God blessed me with facial hair and a twenty pound weight for my bicep and tricep curls I pray every man can at least looksmax enough find a cute 7 with a good heart.
Bro "a cute 7" lol thats movie star level looks if your not a 7/10-8/10 or at least a 6/10 with a good body an the her preferd race she picks your not gona get a 7/10 chick bro sorry to burst your bubble
@@Lightskinemagic1995 absolutely. only if such a girl comes from a conservative background.
@@Lightskinemagic1995 Demitri please read this I hate to give you hope because when you have hope you know that you cant quit and be lazy, but I was a tiktoker who did street interviews in Miami, NYC and DC, and 85% of women between 19-22 dont know their true smv even with the advancement of technology and absolutely no-one and I mean no one does cold approaches anymore outside of a bar or nightclub. They are out there but you have to go out your way DURING THE DAY to find them just be respectful of their personal space. I pulled 8's and 9's in Miami simply by being the guy that was there at the right place at the right time. However, you have to have mental fortitude that 99% of men even chads dont have to read women's body language like wheat waffles teaches so you can know when to respectfully walk away and to handle ALOT of rejections. This male supermodel in Miami was hitting me up last year to get me to hang out so he could pull girls off me cuz he doesn't have my confidence. So if youre a 6 or 7 right now you still have a shot. But as we know 99% of men dont even have the funds to cold approach or the balls so here we are
@@Lightskinemagic1995 Also looking at your media you have chad potential but to be honest you look like you cant dress but I aint gonna put you up on clothes game for free lmao.
hey, let me help you out by dispelling another myth because it seems you've been misled. Beyond attaining an optimal bodyfat level, gym is cope. Muscle is mostly irrelevant. Face, height, frame is what constitutes "looks" for males. Your arms won't land you a 7. Sorry bub.
Beauty is subjective once you pass a certain attractive scale
Yep once u past 6.5 /10 then yea
*I think the reason women lie about looks not mattering is to portray themselves as kind because it's a maternal quality.*
In other words....they BS.
Virtue signalling. All day, everyday.
They lie because they absolutely terrified of what society thinks about them. Society also protects them. If women come outright saying looks come first then less men will give them attention, less friends in the friendzone and overall less guys to use and abuse. What it comes down to is women can't live without attention from men. And also women are socially superior to men so it's in their nature to deceive and avoid physical harm at all costs
Bingo. You can see this too in the jubilee video where they had 5 girls rate each other from least to most attractive and the fat girl was put in 3rd place⊠and they bring up personality when that has nothing to do with looks.
They are sweet liars
I encourage everyone to try to go out with a group of women in a city on a bar/club crawl (could be coworkers, friends, whomever). Pay attention to their conversations and behavior. They will Blackpill you harder than any Wheat Waffles video.
Absolutely absolutely. Cuz I live in 6.5 million large city in North America. N i always live , partied, worked,,,,downtown core. Literally Most Dating coaches even themselves have very sheltered views that men will blindly blind blindly believe them. In parties,,,as son as a hot guy shows up,,,all d d eyes on hottie. D Normie thats in suits or dress shirts suddently just become filler. Cuz we went tor King St west,,,literally down Financial District (on king street) partied all the hottest dudes look like those guys from d Netflix Show Suits show up. Ud see how all d girls go straight to the hottest dude. I dont blame them cuz everyone does. :)
Also a few times, , I was attending my gf(white girl)âa dinner with all her white female friends. I am like the ONLY Asian. The Quiet werid awkward female lawyer in her late 20s early 30sâŠlike literally long face, (serah Jessica Parker), blue eye, very hard curly hair, BIG GUM(prob a Jewish ) , with larger nose. Like WONT even frigin talk to me. When I tried to feel bad for her, n make a polite conversationâŠshe like plainly ignore me like she is CLEARLY ANTI social n really Anti social, quiet n want NOT to be spoken to.
N a couple times later, d same group. I got my then bf(now husband)âŠto come down meet my gf before she heading back to Australia. D moment my dude showed upâŠthis frigin LONG face, Serah Jessica Parker like person,,,REALLY went from quiet rabbit to like Arrogant LOUD, Flamboyant HYPER, engaging thing. Its like literally SHOCKING. Right off the bat she was like cozy up to my dude(she knew heâs with me, like heâs my bf). Kept trying to ask him Where do u work, Where do u live, âOHâŠ.WHAT DOES YOUR GIRLFRIEND DO???â . I am like WTFâŠ. I tried to have a convo with her like 10 min prior, she knod n really did NOT feel like to get to know me, now u wanna know what I Do for work, n so much about me?? What cuz u think u are White so u have a chance with him , that I am Asian normal looking scalp , i dont have plastic surgery n I dont have huge gum, loop nose, long scalp, around chin, big gum, long face . VERY Tight fuzzy curly hair!!
IT WAS INSANE..how immediate preditorial that person was. Literallly she thought âoh HE is my type i am going to squash that Asian person out of pic cuz he wants me, cuz i am whiteâ NO đź â he does NOT like white girls. My i met my husband long ago when we were teens. That he thinks most white girls makes him feel like his sister. He went to school at surburb that full of Indian ppl n Asian. â
It really does NOT matter what ppl think their chance are. It matters what d other ppl meets their --type. I have like small clean nose, small mouth, small chin, big eyes, long lashes, clean jar line. I look way more close looking to my husband by facial structure than Serah Jessicaâs Parker looking person with big gum on long face. Its really strange to describe it. Like u cant just do plastic surgery to change a long Narrow head, or invert the gum. Its so unusual sighting. đźđź it sounds wrong for me to say it, but I was the one feeling bad that she was so Quiet trying to Make her Feel More Comfortable by Making polite conversation with her. What a douche!!!!! đź
@@birdtj82 calm down, typing all of that was a waste of time
@@mmkt9487 I am chill as Cucumber đ„ :):) u might want to Off yr mid pony . Cuz taking ur time to tell anyone âcalm down ! Writing that much is waste of time is called âprojection â ! Projection what u (self ) feel /narrative into others to feel above âđŒ:) in psychology terms .
I have talked with female friend and she blackpilled me hard about height, hair and race being important
beauty is objective. but taste is subjective. some people like people with longer philtrums more than with shorter ones, or some people prefer pretty boys over masculine men.
Inhale good that copium.
I declare all who cope , must be punished
â@Louis Tea Enjoyer learn how to read pls
Learned new word. Some ppl in photos, look like their nose tip almost reaches the upper lip.
Pretty boys are the same chad, different flavor.
There are some components of attraction that are subjective ie tattoos, piercing and jewellery whereas lower body fat is objective
Yh notice how all of those components are non-genetic
@@ammonia309 right
If it's objective then why do different people find different body fat percentages attractive or unattractive?
It exists but in completely different way than some people think. It just means that if there are three or more people that are equally attractive in one place, it'll be subjective which one we'll be attracted to the most.
Correct. The phrase just means that one woman may consider Alen DeLon a 10/10 and Brand Pit just a 9/10 and Clint Eastwood as an 8/10 , while another woman will have Brand Pit as a 10 , Clint as a 9 and DeLon as an 8.
@@georgiosdoumas2446 Yes, and in reality they're all chad-like men, so they all share that same place, despite the subjectivity.
@@georgiosdoumas2446 Yes, even that subjectivity can be used to their advantage by men from all leagues
Beauty becomes subjective once you reach a high level of objective beauty. Some people prefer blond hair, others brunettes. Some think people get more attracted when wearing glasses but thats only the case once you crossed the line at around 7/10. Up here, beauty truly is subjective because everyone is beautiful up here.
No, its subjective when comparing two individuals who are in roughly the same percentile i.e. a 55th percentile vs a 67th percentile
A thing is either objective or subjective, can't be both.
@@goaheadmakemyday7126 yes it can as the op above clearly explained.
@@deagor4578 Op has poor reasoning. Beauty is subjective since different people have different views on what is beautiful and what isnât.
@@goaheadmakemyday7126 You must be behind the curve.
I went from 387-lbs to 191-lbs over about a 5 year period. Afterward, it's like I've stepped into a completely different world. I'm treated with respect and regard by most men. I've gotten compliments from women of all ages. The difference is night and day. I don't think looks will nessesary sustain that state with someone you've known without good character traits, but it's the difference between strangers feeling like you must build rapport with them, and strangers feeling like they must build rapport with you. Strangers usually speak to me in a rapport building way... it's still so awkward to get used to.
Exactly
Its more like this
Good looks will make people interested in you but personality will help you to keep the people interested in you
Thats how i view it at least
But still in my opinion
Attractive people in general, regardless of culture or race get treated better than unattractive people
If that ur pic ur very attractiveâ€
@@unrealAna You're too kind đ¶
It's true. Post weight loss treatment exacerbated my trust issues.
Pretty privileged
Life on easy mode if you won the genetic lottery, life on hard mode if you lost.
Thatâs the truth but sometimes the truth is too harsh to handle especially on a societal level.
Thatâs why stupid phrases like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" exists.
The truth is too much to handle for delusional people like you and all the blackpillers, who just want a scapegoat for their failures in life
And besides easy or hard mode, if you happen to be disabled or hideously unattractive, it's like you're playing a downgraded version of the game of life where core features are missing (like having romantic relationships).
@@TheFallenAngelWhoWas yeah its called demo
Genetics won't help you get fit, they won't help you develop skills and they certainly won't make you interesting.
a lot of things factor in to your overall facial appearance (good oral posture, etc) which can be changed, but noone will tell you about that as a kid/teen (maybe your dentist will, but they profit off of poor facial development)
I agree with this strongly. The other day i was in class and i mentioned how the villain in the book we was reading was ugly and that it was a pattern. A girl then replied that beauty is subjective and when i was about to argue, the teacher purposely moved on. Off topic, but the girl who said this wasnât aesthetic pleasing, if i was honest, so maybe like Wheat waffle covered in his video, peopleâs upbringing can delude them.
Damn yea good point.
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No. She's virtue-signaling and pretending like most whamin do. She KNOWS she's not attractive.
so true, i notice so many trolls online these days say that ugly people are bad. like society seriously wants to paint a picture that all guys who are not blessed with genetics are evil
Itâs gaslighting. Make you doubt what you see. In reality she knows this, but virtue signals to act superior to you.
5:46 I already tried this question, they simply don't understand it, using % with girls is too much for them. They will answer something like "you overthink this, love doesn't care", then they'll add "you'll find someone if you just continue to try, you're a good person".
I really believe that women subconsciously use "love" to manipulate men
Meme gender
At least you get normie treatment.
Trying to use unfiltered logic on the gender that sees everything through a layer of emotion usually doesn't go well. You have to phrase things through emotion to get them to see your point. Kinda sad that we have to do this, because it means that on issues that require 100% logic, we *have* to sugarcoat the truth or even lie to get anything to pass because they hold 50% of the voting block.
Trust me itâs the other way around. They know the truth, they simply gaslight you into thinking that she is a fool. That is she thinks you are a idiot
I know Iâm a Chad because my mom called me handsome
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How tall are you and how much do you weigh and body fat percentage and what do you look like and how many attractive women have you been with?
@@travelingjohn69it was a sarcasm.
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I'm a Chad bcs my mom says I'm ugly but she get mad whenever she catches girls staring at me đ Toxic af
So this explains why I am invisible to all the girls at my church, and why they never talk to me. đ€
You're a high 4/low five. Not too ugly to receive disdain for existing, but not beautiful enough to have someone attracted to you.
Well the guys usually do the talking first.
You won't get anywhere with them unless you initiate contact
Very likely. As the guy you must make the approach however, but the response you get from when you do go and speak with them should tell you where you stand quickly. If you're around here long you'll understand that if you want to be successful with women you absolutely must look as attractive as possible. When it comes to initial attraction women want to feel like they're choosing the best option they can from their available options. From there more matters, but if you can't even get your foot in the door then that other stuff doesn't even have a chance to matter. I'd say do this thing called "looksmaxing" then practice approaching women (respectfully) and getting rejected over and over again until you're more comfortable with it. Probably best to not do that at your church just yet as hings could become awkward. Just my 2 cents.
@@Dawg477 Its over if you have to talk to them ..
I think one of the reasons parents lie to their children about looks is so they can gaslight and guilttrip them into thinking that it's because of their behaviour they are rejected. That the child is not nice enough and ungrateful. Especially when narcissistic parents are involved who do everything to manipulate their child to use them only for their own self interest. This creates ugly pleasing nice guys that are even more unattractive.
I'm a victim of this but fortunately snapped out of the nice guy mentality and became blackpilled.
Worse thing is to be labeled the creepy guy that wants to be friends with everyone. I donât even open up to people anymore. Just myself and my alone, shamed and ugly thoughts.
I know my father secretly saw me as his failure and something to be ashamed of.
This guy knows what he's talking about. One of the points he made on looks maxing has stuck with me. It may boost you up only a point or so, but not doing it can knock you down 3 or 4 points. Think about anytime you've gone out to an event and realized you were under dressed, meaning you were the one person not dressed for the occasion. That's what missing out on looks maxing does in my opinion.
Reminder: It's over for Shortcels, over for baldcels, over for oldcels, over for currycels, over for fatcels, over for uglycels, and over for Ricecels
Over for shrek donkeycels
Ricecels can KpopMaxx & Fatcel is Volcel but other than that ... â ïž
im 5'7 and i still get girls
If so, explain the massive population of India and China, and the fact that South and Southeast Asian birth rates are higher than Europe and North America.
@@rubixcube3772 same here đ
Thank you for making the blackpill make sense. Fantastic content as alwaysâ€
@@oz_peter Beat Mme to it. đ
Please stop guzzling this garbage content. It does you no favours.
Thank you for making the blackpill make sense. Fantastic content as always
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder - is only true when all the people in the room are equally attractive
first time I had a 10/10 score in my entire life
Not so difficult. The persons had a large gap between them.
@@GermanTaffer it was also a joke xD
*Is beauty in the eye of the beholder?*
Yes. And most people got the same fucking eyes
correct, the preferences have evolved to detect good genes, thus fairly universal, but still subjective in the strict sense that perception of beauty or ugliness only exists within a mind, it doesn't exist like atoms or something independent of of a mind. Put another way, if all consciousness cease to exist, so does the perception of beauty, whereas atoms will still be around.
Other examples of mental constructs are, value, morals, meaning etc.
Also, beauty is somewhat market dependent, in the sense that you want 'goods' popular in the market....in other words; you want children that do well in the sexual market. Hence why women care what other women like, which creates a positiv feedback loop where what's deemed attractive becomes more attractive đ.
Women: "Beauty is subjective. You might think a girl is a 3 but some other guy will think she's a 10"
Also women: (only finding 4.5% of men attractive).
They all say they are 10s in their own eyes.đđđđ
@@loungeroomrecords But NO man rates even a 4 on a scale of 1 to 5! See Datclysm. They find NO men to be "best" and ALL women to be "best"! It's female supremacy. They want a female 0 to be above the best man on Earth.
@@bigneiltoo yes spot on ! 100% right u can be an Adonis and still there would be flaws, as according to them men ainât shit. But taking their money is ok. It would be best if guys really stuck to no SIMP September and checked out of dating, OF, and instagram for at least a whole month and gave them Zero attention to see how an apocalypse would come.
4.5% is the percentage that 100% of women are attracted to, but that doesn't mean that most men can't find women who find them attractive.
@@estudio-ve7qm women are hypocrites though. Piling makeup on their faces and then, demand real men while they cover up their own faults
You know it's over when you watch these videos the second they come out :(
Ain't that the truth
Only women say that disney bs, men are used to reality
80% of men don't
Most man are masculinity copers and some women are gonna tell you blackpilled truth if they trust you enough
The amount of delusions in these comments. This is reality. Beauty is and always has been subjective, it is common logical sense, this is why there's ALWAYS people arguing "no they're ugly" "no they're not". That's why every looks rating scale is different. People have different preferences on looks, it's common logical sense and there is no objective beauty, no one views it the same, which is a fact.
Looks&LMS might be gone, but you've done an amazing job of carrying on the torch
Fun fact: studies have shown that even newborn babies can recognize facial beauty, by staring longer at the same faces that adults also find attractive. It's true that 'beauty' is not subjective.
This type of thing, interestingly, also extends to landscapes - humans (across cultures) generally find the same type of landscapes/environments that our prehistoric ancestors evolved in to be the most beautiful: open spaces, with scatterings of nearby trees, with evidence of water and animals life
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Thank you for this. Because of statements like that, people have this mindset of "take me as I am" then never self improve
Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Andrew Tate spent millions getting women around him and these same women wrote statements for his imprisonment where as a young Leonardo DiCaprio lookalike could get all those same women for free and with no heat.
Yeah Andrew Tate is NOT UGLY. MOST of ppl who are Bald are NOT looking like Andrew Tate. Most women will not deal with Andrew Tate but he is just as little as a filler for woman so they gain bragging rights. as much as he is trying to boast.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but it seems like beholders have a consensus on what beauty is.
As I have seen in a few posts, it is an outdated phrase. A long time ago when your options were limited to only a few hundred miles of a central point.you couldn't just depend on physical appearance. So beauty was in the eye of the beholder because other attributes could improve one's attractiveness as a mate. But now, with most people thinking that entire countries or even the world are the pool to choose a mate. Beauty has become just the physical appearance because the pool is so large that people feel that the traits that use to bolster an average appearance can be found in a physically attractive (beautiful) person if they just look harder. Thus, the eyes of the beholder have stopped looking for traits to offset the physical defficiencies, making it less subjective than a time when the phrase was coined. No more trying to find a diamond in the rough because with so many diamonds to choose from, you can eventually just find the cut and finished diamond you want.
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"I'm a billionaire because wealth is in the mind of the owner"
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It's over for beholdercels
The proverb "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" was actually true, but only in the previous generations where dating and relationships were normal. Now the proverb is gone dead today.
I would say the opposite, before it was seen that 90% of relationships, in courtships the woman and man had a similar level of beauty, today you see that 90% of courtships the woman is more attractive than the man
@@estudio-ve7qm I can agree to your statement, though it may vary from different couples. But back then, women were all equally and uniquely beautiful not only from the outside but from the inside as well. Before technology, most women were also innocent back then.
I disagree
Look at History
People always cared about looks
Especially kings that wanted to marry the most beautiful women
And women only married men because they couldn't work for themselves mostly
Sure true love was real .But it was uncommon just like today .
Caring about looks is a biological thing
Culture has an impact on it sure
But biology is the main thing
â@@TheHarwoodButcher. I respectfully disagree
I don't think you have any evidence for your arguments
Women were not innocent in the past
Like i said please look at History
Many women committed horrible crimes
Women that were rulers were just as bad as some kings
Trust me
When you know history
You would understand the world better
History taught me humans didn't change much
We still make the same mistakes we made 1000 years ago
â@@estudio-ve7qm i wonder why though
I've always thought that the saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder as meaning some people prefer different chads to others
This is exactly what it means. Some will prefer Tyrone, others chang, others Chad. Some prefer skateboard Chad. Some prefer Chad who plays chess. Some prefer the Chad who can put a ball in a hoop etc. Some prefer dr Mike the fake doctor Chad. That's what it actually means.
â@@loverofhumanityIndeed đ ! I'm trying to Tyronemaxx as much as possible đ !
Yeah... Some people prefer an Indian, Arabic, Italian Chad (like I can), some people prefer a German Chad...
Some people prefer Sofia Vergara with bleached blond hair... Some prefer Monica Bellucci, Megan Fox, Madison Beer or some miss USA winner...
Beauty is more objective than subjective, but itâs not completely either way.
...sure
...copers like you will be dealt
The subjectivity mostly stems from things such as phenotypical preference (e.g blue or green eyes, blonde or brunette hair)
@@Gigaover also body type- curvy vs more slender. facial features- fuller lips vs thinner, etc. and a certain threshold in looks. a girl who is an objective 6-7 with features you like is a better than an objective 8 with features your not the most attracted too. nice smile, full lips and a nice rack and I melt. haha
@@richardw3347 This is exactly the same conclusion I came to. I believe physical attraction is subjective & beauty is objective.
There is a difference between the two, even though they both go hand in hand.
Although what I say is mostly true regarding what men like.
It may or may not be the same for what women like.
Im personally attracted to alternative styles but I agree that underlying physical looks is the thing
Yea if your into gothic type and Britney Spears at her prime was gothic youâd def be into her
I still cant believe you broke your hand looking at men's faces đ
Your talking speed used to be too slow for me but now i have a feeling you improved it, i like it đđ»
Beauty is objective and it is hardwired in our brain meaning there is no such thing as beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder
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To certain degree there is still subjectivity to it like black males being more/less attractive than white. I find that about 80% of all features are objective, but still there are differences
â@@acul_nick9131 Being good looking is it's own race đđȘ
As a 60 year old with lots of experience witnessing, women's reaction to an individual man's looks, whether he be a sub5 or a 9, is strikingly consistant from woman to woman to woman. If you spin a 360 in bright lights, and 2 women rate you, you can expect the same consistancy from 1000 more. If you are unattactive and " there is someone for everyone" and you actually land a GF, it's not based your looks. She's settled for your inferior looks based on what you can provide her and what she can pull. And when these women say " I always see this georgous woman in the arms of an unattractive man" there is always a caveat to that situation. He's freindzoned, her brother, or her emotional and financial tampon BF and she gets Chad on the side for her carnal needs. There are ZERO, and I mean ZERO chicks dating a sub 5 because he turns her on physically
If the capacity to perceive beauty is rooted in our brains then that means it is subjective by definition.
Beauty can be subjective, but on a much smaller scale. If you have 2 objective 7s for example and u have to decide which one you prefer itâs subjective. Itâs the same with the dad bud thing. There are certain women who do prefer a little (really small) belly over a sixpack, but only when the guy is already objectively attractive in the first place. When we talk about preferences we talk about small differences between people who are objectively attractive.
Exactly. Take the last 2 subjects on the beginning test. The man who was considered the more attractive one was unattractive to me, which the beefy lumberjack was absolutely my type.
Bingo!!! That phrase is about comparing two equal but different same level looks people. E.g a black and a white model.
True
Most women are dating men who are objectively NOT attractive
What do you mean by "objective 7"? A person could be a 7 to someone and an 8 to someone else.
I just happen to stumble across your channel and saw couple of your videos. Found them intriguing and hence subscribed to your channel!
Genes are everything
"We judge a book by its cover" - why do people still ignore facts?
I got a looks rating from you a few months back and took your advice to (even though I was already in good shape) to lean out to show more of my bone structure I stack amazing skin care with that and it took me into the Chad range. And trust me, you KNOW when youâre there. Womanâs behavior from (4 to 6 men) & (7 to 8 men) are night and day differences!
4 &below - avoidance
5- friendzone (60-80%)
6- (Some romance with effort/attention)
7- true attraction
8- Passion/Can get away with almost anything.
As a man whose crossed the range through my life from teen 5- Adult 8 My advice for all men is do WHATEVER you must to stack advantage until you reach at least the 6.5 range this is the required range to get laid in 2023
And how would you rate a man that women only want for casual sex but not for a relationship?
So you are saying I should fight for a superficial personality... because I can pay to play
@@estudio-ve7qm I would rate that man at 7(minimum) 7.5(Maximum). Heâs good looking enough to get attraction from the woman but likely she either has some reservation about him that the attraction isnt quite strong enough to overcome or she already has a viable candidate she wants for the relationship role and she wants to keep it open for him in case he steps up to the plate. At 8 and above level the man decides the type of relationship they have, the woman has 0 leverage.
@@dorn885 I donât judge pay to play at all, itâs 100% viable, itâs only drawback is that it lacks the true attraction, admiration, and desire that comes through in those 7+ situations. It does have its benefits when you have the money to P2P you has unlimited access, itâs basically the demo version of being an 8+
@@jalenprice23 I am a 4/10.
I was a plan B in a six year relationship - she admitted that the attractive ones dont want her ... fcked me really over, because I truly loved her.
I tried really hard to date after my first and only long term relationship, no matter how far away. Result: Fly through half Europe for ONE date, then she decides to not like me (after writing with each other for two months.
This happened several times in similar variations. I spend money to be heart broken, lied to, being used and abused. I really really tried hard. I am now 37 and dont care anymore.
Instead of going on dates, I use the money for paytoplay: I have open relationships, meet one around five times, then change. Almost every single guy in the western world can afford such a fling once a year (less is more!, their age stays the same, so no need to hurry).
Of course she would not date me without paying, of course she does not find me hot, but she does not backstab me, which is priceless. If you have to decide to pay with cash or with dignity, always pay cash.
Wow this is one of the best videos ever made on explaining this so simply and clearly, to the point. Great job man.
Your content is epicđ. Love to watch every time. Good work dudeđ
Itâs a very ugly(no pun intended) feeling, to come to the realization that women just donât find me attractive, and donât want me. It must be similar to a child slowly realizing that they are unwanted by their parents. JustâŠâŠan ugly feeling.
It's crazy knowing some dudes were simply born into life on developer mode and others are staring at a CONTINUE? screen thinking "nah..."
I'm a dude, but the lumberjack in 10 was debatable. He's got it but I understand why you would go for the slimmer guy in a traditional beauty contest.
I love how realistic your words aređđ»
Respects
When i heard a woman said that Ryan Goslin was "average", i knew there was something fd up in their mind.
He is average
Most disney movies are very black pilled. Beautiful princess marries Hunk, typically with magic involved.
Hunchback of Notredam is hella Black pilled.
Any young man who actually believes women see you for what is on the inside I urge you to do what I did when I was 19 and get a job at a restaurant with lots of waitresses. You will witness some of the most base acts of inhumanity from these women. Even the most average women sees herself as a perfect ten and they will ignore most of the men they work with but maybe two guys. I knew one cook who was a horrible person and slept with at least 4 of them including one who was married. I had an assistant manager who probably slept with half of them and they have NO shame about all sharing the same man, none.
Funnily enough, I've actually used the "Then why do you wear makeup?" argument when somebody, typically a woman, tries to tell me that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. They always get flustered. You can almost see the gears turning in their heads. Most of them have tried to tell me that wearing makeup is different. Right. Okay. Got it. đ
So beauty standards are a real thing they are restricting and cookie cutter but beauty itself can be seen in so many forms and everyone is capable of seeing beauty outside of standards.
This was a great analogy đ
Good and fair analysis. I want to add a positive truth found in research: being in love with someone increases your perceived visual attractveness of them. Getting to that point is of course more difficult when raw attractiveness is low. But a pair of 4s and 5s who have grown to love each other very much will sort of halo effect each other.
Interesting
as with most scales, beauty only becomes objective if you're past a certain looks threshold, I've never seen a pretty girl with a 4/10 or below.
Took me a long time to realize people lie bc my friends would keep telling me how great i am and yet would never want to set me up with their good looking friends/relatives/coworkers.
My life in a nutshell,
0-14: cute kid got all the valentines cards.
14-17: Awkward looking "too skinny, 6feet 120 lbs", only had 2 girlfriends.
18-25: 8 out of10, 6 feet 170-180, 7% body fat, got just about any girl.
26-30 - 200lbs, Chubby and clueless as to why More woman aren't being as easygoing with me.
35+ (honest female friend said I need to loose weight) back to 10% body fat 175 lbs 8.3 overall in looks (according to photofeeler) LOOKS MATTER!
Bodyfat % is absurdly important.
@@Krelian4400 Indeed, its literally the difference between normie and chad.
"only had 2 girlfriends between 14-17"
ONLY? Yeah, and I didn't get a girlfriend until 23 and I was skinny entirely up to that point. That was definitely your face that carried you.
@Lord Sergi From Spain đȘđž do everything you can to get you jawline showing. I have a nice "gonial" angle and chin area a Literally woman have no clue as to why they're more attracted to me.
After HS i dated both the Homecoming queen, and the most popular girl in school. She literally didnt know I existed until senior year. Looks are everything. I only wish I paid more attention in my 20's.
wow i never got a valentine card in my entire life. some of us been incels for life
WW talking 100% brutal factsâŠ
Everything comes down to luck at birth. Anatomy is destiny.
There were no obese people in hunter/gatherer times
Fuck yeah man, America! Weâre winning so hard we die of fucking snacks dawg letâs go.
Just moved down a size in pants today. Definitely look a lot better đ
Think about how hyper concerned women are with their looks. Think about how cosmetics and makeup are multi-billion dollar industries. Think about how concerned they are with their weight, their hair, their clothes.
Then imagine believing them when they say looks don't matter. They are projecting, plain and simple.
That's not how it works. Men also concerned with their masculinity, status and money but they see these things in women as a downside. Women think that if they find something attractive or they are concerned with something then the opposite gender must also find it attractive and be concerned with it. When men don't think like that.
In other words women are solipsistic when men are objectivistic
The only situation I can imagine where beauty would be in the eye of the beholder is if you were forced to pick one person from a group of people with the exact same rating (sub 6 excluded)
3 and 8 are somewhat subjective but i do agree that the left ones are slightly more attractive for both
CZcams, please don't delete this video
The test at the start proved we all know how an attractive person looks like, even without being attracted to the same gender. I'm sure we can all look in a mirror and gauge how attractive we are, meaning the unattractive obese women who rate themselves as a 10... let me stop there.
I have some editions:
- Women seem to be programmed to avoid all conflict, especially with men. Possibly because they are physically weaker, and might get slapped into next week if they tell a man he he is a 3/10 and there is nothing he can do about it.
- As far as I can tell, people end up with friends, romances etc with people who have the same values as themselves ("Birds of a feather... "). So within VALUES and degree of maturity, it is in the eye of the beholder. For example I happen to find a woman who is on Tinder far less attractive, than her twin sister who goes from long relationship to long relationship. Because looks are primary, but values I find to be secondary characteristics in attractiveness. (Job, car, material goods being 3rthiary).
"Women tend to avoid conflicts"? You've got to be shitting me! In What alternative universe is this true? A huge percent of them are absolute bitches and will nag, yell at or scream at their husbands or boyfriends relentlessly.
I see
Your channel is just one more reason for me to clock out of life đđ
As a half white-half Asian guy whoâs lived in both the west and in Asia, Iâd say that despite certain elements being universally attractive, beauty standards can highly vary by culture.
For example, try comparing Chris Hemsworth and Jungkook from Bts. They are both regarded as attractive globally, but each of them do better in their given niches.
For example, if you looked like Chris Hemsworth and you lived in South Korea, people might think youâre handsome, but you wouldnât have as broad of an appeal as Jungkook from Bts. The same would apply if a guy that looked like Jungkook went to the US.
So Iâd argue that attractiveness is about 70% objective with the other 30% varying by audience demographic and culture.
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Trvthnvke brudda, mite I add that this is related to niches as well, like icing on the cake 4 the 20%
The fact that round 9 didn't even have faces is wild
I always thought of it like this:
beauty is composed of a subjective part (your preferences, if you like tattoos, skin color, hair color, etc) and an objective part, which is attraction (it is more measurable and scientifically proven, since they are characteristics that biologically favors evolution and demonstrates good health, such as symmetry, healthy hair, physique, etc.)
Maybe 30-70%?
Great video. Can you do a video about how your style and fashion can boost your attractiveness? Such as dressing well as a 4 wonât do anything to boost your attractiveness, while dressing well as a 7 can potentially boost you up to an 8.
Dressing well may be a sign of status, stability etc. traits women look for in a partner specially as they age. Even if it wonât make you physically more attractive it will still help
@@jaysibiri interesting
I donât think any early men were 25% fatđ Oreos, chips & beer hadnât been invented
Itâs actually interesting watching how ascetic looks or objective looks have changed throughout the media history. If you watch older movies, shows, or tv news clips pre-1980s or 90s, the actors or presenters were more slender generally, and their faces were a wide range of Chad faces to normal faces. Something changed beginning in the last half of the 1980s and really accelerated in the late 1990s where all actors and tv presenters were chosen based on how well defined a Chad or Stacy they are. Even the extras, look handsome or beautiful now. By looks standards, some of the most iconic actors would probably not be hired now, like Sean Connery or Sylvester Stallone. Even David Duchovny, has a rather normie look, yet he became the hero of the XFiles. Itâs hard to say when the focus on promoting the Chad look began, or where it started.
Connery was even a bodybuilder at one point
There are plenty of current actors who are completely away from the Chad look, like Vin Diesel, for example.
â@@estudio-ve7qmHe's more like a 7/10.
@@spartanghost9713 Vin Diesel is a 7/10????? What criteria do you use to qualify men????
@@estudio-ve7qm I mean, when he was younger he was handsome.
Beauty is skin deep, ugly goes to the bone đ
That was a good video that transitioned into an advertisement very smoothly. Gotta hand it to wheat for that one đ
my grandma says i'm handsome :)
Just granny-maxx bro
If you did this with different cultures, you will find that that each culture has a few different types of beautiful people, soft cute features, or sharp angular features.
Then if you examine those features the people that have the right harmony will look alike cross culturally. Beauty is hardwired into us.
I got 9, i found the girl on the right to be more my type. Her features were slightly more "ethnic" compared to the traditional caucasian girl.
Good video.
I found the curly-haired one equally attractive, but to be fair I reckon Wheat didnât leave enough gap between those two girls.
Just take a shower bro. Hygiene is key. Women love hygienic men.
Cope, ugly men with good hygiene and fashion will never beat Henry Calvin for example
Look there's the most hygienic 5'3 Balding Indian that smells like fresh laundry . I guess he doesn't have problems with girls .
Nope, just reincarnate with better genetics, bro
Just be confident bro xD
Lol, 6 foot 2, six pack, six figure salary, 6 inch pipe, needs to have game, funny, Well educated, and the list goes on and on
Amazing video
this Video will blow up.
That's for youtube to decide...
Wheat wafels killing it again with this video.
It just means that when you love someone, you'll find them more attractive than they actually are
Thanks for the video đ
I'm sure i've seen some studies somewhere debunking the term too. Now unless my memory is just convoluting separate events, i'm sure they even directly addressed this very term verbatim within the study and highlighted that objective reality doesnt support it.
Have to say that game you made the viewer play at the start was a very good move. As predicted. 10/10. Didn't even have to think about it. I imagine there will be a few people who will try and be like "well I got 8-9/10 so gotcha"... Ignoring that they still get most correct. Them having a niche as an exception to the rule disproves nothing.
And anyone claiming that they got most if not all of them wrong are simply lying or intentionally played the game backwards because they knew what it was meant to highlight. In which case, playing the game the opposite way still confirms what the game set out to highlight since they're instead choosing who they feel is the 'least attractive' just to cling onto their bluepilled deluded bs.
Beauty isnât in the eye of the beholder⊠the truth doesnât care about your feelings.
Round 2: both are in the same league, the only difference is that one is smiling but both of them are below average.
Round 3: the two women are also in the same league and most men would accept any one them.
Round 4: the left one is heavily photoshoped.
Round 5: the two are in the same league because left has better facial features but brown eyes while the right one has weaker features but blue eyes.
Round 7: both have prey eyes and non of them is attractive.
Round 8: both are totally unattractive.
Round 10: the guy on the left is ripped, that's his only advantage but if the guy on the right would be also ripped with below 10% bodyfat, he would have much more attractive face.
Yeah bluepilled people like you are also nazis. Who would have thought
4:28 YEEEESS YYESSS Iâve been saying that for years lol. It never matters what people say, only how they behave/take action.
I alweys supscted that women rate men beauty on how they think about them as a person ,and now i have the confirm.
Thanks man