Thanks for tuning in guys. I’ve been experimenting over the last few months with regard to the style of uploads and I have decided to prioritize quality over quantity I hope you appreciate the hours that have been spent creating recent videos (especially the 7 Reasons Women Date Up video) and in return I hope to deliver equally high quality content in the coming months 👍
@ZoinkingMyJinkies It’s highly unlikely he’d be down for a livestream/debate. I reached out to him before and he gave a long winded response for why he isn’t available, you can see for yourself if you scroll to a couple months ago on the community tab of my channel
I really like this channel and I appreciate the professionalism you present yourself and I'm happy to hear you improve the quality of your videos and it shows. Good work!
@@WheatWaffles Please activate the subtitles. This makes it much easier for non-native English speakers, who hear you from other countries. With the subtitles activated, youtube makes the "automatic translation" feature available, making it easier for us.
"Data, logic...." none of this is based on any study. He admits this when talking about "purity" and the 10 tenants he just literally made up to scale a womans "purity". A lot of this is just pulled out of his ass bro. It might seem like it makes sense but this is just psuedo science horse shit. It reminds me a lot of the way the founder of the church of Scientology, L ron Hubbard, would manipulate stats.
@@Hello-ib4fz I worked with engineers, albeit in the govt, and they were quite grandiose, haughty and thought that they could program everything. I work as a statistical analyst with strong math background and saw how they not only misinterpreted statistical science and reasoning, but then would concoct creative ways of blame shifting and denial. Lawyers are the same way. Anywhere you have collective Narcissism and / or tribal wisdom. That being said, I generally agree with WW, as his presentations are well researched and documented. His inferences and interpretations square with my own experiences and observations. Though they are not popular, due to public's magical thinking on the matter of "love" (think the American "reality" show The Bachelor / Bachelorette, a tragedy of wealthy stupidity), for those seeking sensible answers, this channel is not a bad place to start. The dating market seems to square with genetic determinism, when operating without human introspection and ethical intervention, as it does in those most powerful socioeconomic strata.
After being on dating apps for years and getting no matches or even likes, I'm finally reaching the conclusion that I'm a "sub-5," and I'm starting to be at peace with it.
Don't just go by the dating apps, do you get any attention from real life girls in a warm environment? If the answer is still no, then yes you are a sub 5.
Just be first was also real back 20yrs ago. I remember a lot of women with 10y with the same first guy. To the point they meet a Chad in her late 20s. Then they dropped their 5s immdiately and said „The first time I feel real love“. It was brutal then and is brutal today. But today most average men don‘t even have this benefit of being first due to social media.
Yeh, nowadays being first means you already nailed the girl when she was 12. Which is CP and disgusting but I hear it every day from woman when they lost their V card. And you can guess that most of them lost it way under legal age.
@Penderyn Depends on the area. Rural cities and towns are... yeah... From my own experience from one: Girls in these towns hook up with ugly guys until they take 1 look at what they can get in the city and then they're gone. And many of them lose their flower at ages 13-15. Which is not a sign of a high quality woman, but many of them are simply pretty and naive. And then they go out to study, and they are never heard from again. Can't blame them, though, everyone wants to max their outcomes in life. The thing is that what WheatWaffles is calling "pure" is often a woman who doesn't know her value (yet) and thus doesn't play the market to her benefit. The classic "hot, but doesn't know it"-unicorn.
All the high quality women are already in relationships. The only women left are of low quality and are only interested in being dug out by one Chad after another. It's not a meme anymore. It really is OVER.
I'm beginning to understand why so many more men check out early at mid life. Unattractive men are pretty much doomed to a life of despair regardless of what they do, but they cling to a false sense of hope for as long as possible. Most people aren't foolish enough to believe that life will somehow become worthwhile after 20 years of failure and increasing isolation. Inevitably, hope is extinguished by reality.
I think only in terms of dating. Unfortunately, unattractive men (but also I guess women) must come to peace with such a brutal reality. They will never be wanted or desired by the other sex and they will never experience the feeling of true desire. But I don't think life is only about sex and reproduction. I believe that you can find purpose and live a meaningful life even as an undesired unloved man. For the sex, you can lower your standards low enough until you find a match, or if you care too much about your dignity, then just live alone and pay for sex from time to time.
Only 40% of men get to reproduce. Of course this is top 40%, not just randomly picked from the men's pool. My theory is that over time, the gene quality increases as bad genes get thrown out of the gene pool. If you don't have good enough genes, you're out of the gene pool. It's the harsh reality.
@@karimmanaouil9354 sub-5s will never feel true love and affection but that doesnt mean they will never get a girlfriend. it's just that the relationship quality they got is sub-par.
Exactly. My cousin dated up. They dated from 19 to 26. Then she went off to study (in a small city, even), and saw that her girlfriends (who were about as good looking as her) were getting guys way better looking. So she started to sabotage the relationship bit by bit until my cousin finally had enough and lashed out at her. Then she used that to further pull it apart, going on "breaks" until finally (wanted to keep him around until she found what she wanted), she met a guy who made 150,000 $ per year, was 2 inches taller and a bit better looking. Now she's fully committed, looking like her uterus is about to explode from anticipation, and they've already bought a house (mostly with his money). Oh, and she's making about 45,000 a year, so she nailed a guy at her level looks-wise, but beyond her level in everything else. By the way, don't listen too much to the "age pill". He's not "top 10%", and 34, she's 26. He's a 6,5 guy lookswise, about 5'11 (181 cm). He is good-looking, but far from a Chad. And he isn't gymmaxed. She was into him BEFORE knowing how much he made.
Just be first worked back when the internet wasn't ubiquitous with smartphones. It is no longer applicable. As a 38yo I can tell you that when we were teenagers we rated women no further than the outskirts of our highschool and considered them the be-end-all. Then we turned 18 and started going to bars and clubs and suddenly we saw women whose looks we never could have imagined before. Imagine having that exposure immediately thanks to social media? You're screwed. I am a walking failed normie.
@@ihatelensflare Yeah, when you grow up in a small town, the moment you step into the outside world, you will be overwhelmed. Now as a woman you don't even need to get out, there is intimacy only a button press away.
@@Atombender I can tell you that from being on sugar baby websites as a means to get paid dates that 10 years ago you would be overwhelmed by the attention you received. It was like being a woman or giga chad. Women did all the approaching and first messaging. Now? Holy fuck. These girls are now used to 20something chads being millionaires and they will not a approach anyone with the first message. I bowed out when I discovered my money isn't enough anymore. You have to be rich and be chad. That's how much tinder and instagram has affected their standards. There is no respite to be found anywhere.
@@ihatelensflare : you wrote _"Then we turned 18 and started going to bars and clubs and suddenly we saw women whose looks we never could have imagined before."_ I want to caution men of ALL ages to stop being so star-struck over women's looks. When men drool over women it makes them look weak & thirsty. Yes, we all like to look at & get naked with beautiful women but show me a hot chick in a bar and I'll show you 20 better looking girls in the next bar. Good looking women are a dime a dozen, high value men are rare and they are the _REAL_ prize!
My man Wheat tells it like it is, no sugar coating. These videos open my eyes even when the reality of the dating market is generally bad news. I do appreciate the last part of the video where there is some practical advice.
Tbh the “just be first” move won’t be a lasting long-term relationship if you don’t improve yourself along the way. Otherwise hypergamy will do its job in due time
… maybe the issue is less of ‘improving yourself’ but more on not stopping | becoming complacent in personal development | growth | maturational along life.
You realize the odds of a woman cheating are vastly lower if you are her only partner right? Just be first is the single best way to keep hypergamy from taking its course
@@duncanthepharaoh It is not about cheating. The danger is losing respect from your girlfriend. You see, If you become complacent, and stagnant in your life while your girlfriend with a higher SMV keep pushing forward she will loose respect for you because she will see other more successful men that she can easily attract in her environment, and also her friends and colleagues will do significant damage to you when they ask her why is she still with such a loser, she can do so much better... Here is the story from my friend, he met a girl 3 year younger than him, and mutual friends set them up. He was a 6 in looks, and he just finished some low level faculty with bad grades, while she was on 2nd year in economics, business management and statistics in the prestigious university, and one of the best students. Later she specialized in marketing. She was 6 in looks back then when they met. He could not find a job so he started working as a land Stewart in the airport. After 3 years, when she finished her master degree, he was still at the same job, going nowhere. But she got a high paying job in a major software company, and in a matter of year she became one of the best B2B sellers. She out-earned him like 5x in her salary. And not only that, but her friends and colleagues who were also successful were constantly making fun of her, like "Why is she with a porter?!" She also hit the gym hard upgraded her looks to a 7. So she mogged him in all LMS and that led her to completely loose her respect for him. She did not cheat him, she just broke up and moved forward. After her, he could not find another girl any more...
For anyone going with the "just stay off dating apps" cope: Quality women do use Instagram though, and Instagram is pretty much the defacto most popular dating app because hundreds of guys will be in her DM's on there. I have never encountered a single available attractive woman that does not use social media. It'd be like looking for a unicorn.
Damn, came in here expecting to not agree but you nailed every point, barring the "skipping dates" thing, but that's my own selection bias. Kudos, Wheat.
I'm impressed that he's going 'against the grain' with every other content creator, by advising getting in first while you're young That always seemed to be a huge tactical flaw, in my opinion If guys are 'working on their grind' for their twenties.. ...what you'll end up with, is bitter bipolr btches that have been run through by everyone, before they look at you again (and see a walking ATM), and guys who are still fresh and sweet with no real relationship experience, which the bip bches absolutely despise A match made in hell
@@hardplans2366 Yup. Even going younger (how they'll try to counter your point),will get you a gen z girl 😐 sounds horrible. I hate to imagine an 18 yr old guy today, waiting until he's in his 30s...I highly doubt a 18-25 yr old woman in 2035ish is going to be worth dealing with. They're not getting any better.
I mostly agree, though in my younger years I've had zero success with women and I wasn't a fat blob with no job - I was making 6 figures, weight lifting, learning "game"... and all I ever saw is a look of disgust from women. Why? Well I am short - 5'6 plus I have neurodiversity problems like visibly shaking hands and speech impairment. It's just not as simple as "oh hit the gym and get a job" as you've made it sound.
Waffles ignores the losses you incur during your 'improvement'. Every day you spend improving is a day lost with a companion. What does he think these women are doing? Waiting around? No, they're getting fucked by guys who are already improved because they never needed to improve. They knew to be the best from the starting gate to be able to maximise their enjoyment. You will never get back those years you missed out on and it will absolutely eat you up being with a woman who only slept with the most 'improved' men. Improvement is pure, unadulterated blue/purple pill cope.
Getting more fit, self improvement and increasing warm approach networking is actionable constructive advise vs negative. Any success with these will make one better at the least for themselves. Wheat's does in another video goes into his decision tree for more aggressive suggestions like relocating to another country and surgery (What Should You Do In Your Dating Life? (In-Depth Flow Chart Guide)). Would do these self improvements first. And yes if you have reasonable options don't put them off, goes without saying that above advise is for someone with fewer quality prospects.
Got my relationship in my 20s, girlfriend was a few years younger than me. First relationship she ever had. In short, kind of your ideal situation. Didn't stop her from cheating and breaking up with me. You wanna know the reason? In her own words, I was like this cake she always ordered at the bakery and that she loved, but she saw that new pastry that really tempted her so... you know, she had to try it out. I'm actually thankful for the lesson she taught me. My brother had a burnout due to his jobless wife not doing jackshit at home. This video does provide good logical arguments, but it's sadly not just a selection bias as the concerns have risen since WITHIN said biases, indicating a clear shift.
Chasing chad is the strongest selection bias among women today and something I have witnessed first hand. Have a female friend who has connected with a chad on Hinge and she confided in me about her experience. She's a very attractive Asian woman in her mid-twenties, somewhat vain and narcissistic, has high standards but low on purity (high body count). He's the typical chad archetype; muscular, good looking, charming, domineering and monied. He has splashed the cash on her, expensive restaurants, hotels, plane fare, promises of future trips and says she's the only one. Oh, and he's 27 years older than her (52) and it's a long distance deal. Had cave man sex (rough) on the second fly-in date and she's smitten, can't see any red flags with this guy. Tried to warn her her but she's hoping he's the one. It's no doubt a fling for him but the hoped for real deal for her. I would say she's a typical female of her generation with the exception she prefers dating much older men (their maturity and wealth in particular). She's destined to join the legion of alpha widows. The dating landscape for the majority of men today is abysmal with most being a second best option to chads.
She’s just a typical golddigger. No young woman in her right mind would wanna settle down with a 52 yr old…chad or not unless he’s statusmaxxed or rich.
@@harsh3948 I'm sad to say that's wrong. A female friend about 30 Y.O, pretty, from a good family, has decent income. Dates a guy at 45 with 5 children (who he has with 2 or even 3 other women). And she's far from alone in that regard. About 10-15% of women, of both high and low quality, are extremely attracted to wealth, and don't care that much about age.
Blackpill hits on every situation and every country with dating market. In asia, beauty standards is already high but it's HIGHER in some western or european countries. That's why a 4/10 white guy in asia will become 6/10 and a 6/10 asian guy in Germany would become 4/10.
I’m a 7/10 Asian in the US and am still an incel at 28 despite maxxing out everything I can. I am doing well with my career, finances, fitness, and am 5’11. But all I can possibly get are landwhales, single moms, and girls 30+ years old. Since I refuse to settle for that, I’m still an incel.
You're making the assumption that highly attractive women don't sleep around casually, when in reality they usually sleep around the most since they are the most desirable to all men. Hook-up culture has ruined women and the possibility of finding one who's "pure", that idea doesn't exist in any level of woman. I drive ride-share in a D1 college town, so I get to hear and see the things woman talk about and how they act. Even the "high quality" ones sleep around casually, it doesn't matter if she's attractive, and studious and smart/hardworking. Women love sex just as much if not more than men, and the ones who are the most desirable have the most sex simply because they have the most options and opportunity to do so. And as a ride-share driver, I get to see how woman really think because they don't talk the same way around people. Its almost as if they forget you exist and aren't human so they are much more open than they would be around other men/women in normal social settings. Also, you're assuming that just because a woman goes to a nightclub automatically makes her more low quality when in reality some of the smartest, and most attractive women I've met have been going to/ coming from bars and nightclubs. Plenty of these girls go just to have fun with their friends and dance/ receive attention from other men with no intention of sleeping with them. Then they end up going home to their boyfriend or going to a dudes house that they are sleeping with.
This is just a matter of how you define "purity". My, and most other men's definition is closer to Weat Waffle's. In our definition, there's little to none possiblity that a high bodycount woman is a high quality woman. In other words, generally speaking, high bodycount = low quality.
@@zeni.7 which means every single woman is low quality, especially ones who look good. Idk what you think is going on out here, but these girls are all fucking. As I said before, I drive rideshare in a D1 college town so i get to see a closer look into how females talk when no one is around and what they think about/ how they act etc. Most of the girls cheat on their boyfriends, and are having casual sex if they aren’t in a committed relationship. The idea of “purity” doesn’t exist in 2022, casual sex has become the norm and it’s now considered weird if you don’t partake in it.
Probably the most realistic comment I’ve seen on a Wheat video. Wheat brings up valid points, but I definitely think he can be a bit dramatic and even too much of a doomer sometimes.
10/10 video wheat waffles! I've learned and watched you for a year now, and found out so many things for to me learn and evolve myself it to with your videos. I'm 14, above average in looks, tall and athletic body type. I worked myself to be a better man because of your videos and found hope in woman because of my timing of discovering your amazing videos and cannot wait for the future! Keep on making these incredible videos to inspire other men to better themselves in appearance and mentally, wish you the best my man!
Keep up the good work my friend,makes me happy as an old guy to see young folk doing what your doing. I had no such content to learn from. I've learned it all the hard way.It shouldn't be like that.
@Chris Chu Yes i know how rare it is, I guess I'm lucky to be one of the few. And about your question, your profile picture is pretty blurry but I'm pretty sure you have more potential then what he told you my instagram is my username here. Hit me up there if you wanna discuss this further.
Bro, you have reached level of quality and depth in terms of analysis in this video I've never seen before. Your argumentation truly has shaken my beliefs. Well done and thanks 👍
Just a point.... I suspect women wouldn't come back into the dating market at the same purity levels, since her purity level will very likely have gone down from being with the guy(s) she dated last. So as they date more, a lot of low-purity women would collect in the pool, as the high-purity women are snapped up for good. That perfectly explains why guys are having trouble finding just decent looking or below average looking high-purity women. Because the amount of low-purity women keeps growing and growing, while the high-purity women are usually completely out of the pool for very lenghty periods of time.....if they ever come back. It's no bloody wonder it's difficult being a man with standards......especially if you're just average 🤣 EDIT: Alright, you made that point in the second half 🙂
It's just common economy. Attractive wares get snatched up ASAP, and less attractive ones get left for last. Have you ever seen the economy of a bread stand? Tried the last few pieces of barely edible baseball bats? That's basically the dating market.
"I suspect women wouldn't come back into the dating market at the same purity levels, since her purity level will very likely have gone down from being with the guy(s) she dated last." Yeah I noticed he didn't adjust them down a hair as well. But still, it's a reasonable proxy, especially by his specific definition of purity (where they need to have good relationship with dad etc. etc. which won't change just because she broke up with a dude(s)).
The insane selection bias in regards to dating is honestly baffling until you realise welcome to the real world. The purity thing is very true and im happy you addressed it to the extent it happens. High standards bias happens alot, the low standards women go quickly, i know a 4 who has extremley high standards and she has had a few relationships by few i mean over 20 partners in 2 years. Also aging bias and poor dating strats happen frequently. Either way this video is still well thought out and well made. ( I cant wait to be featured on a channel attacking the blackpill for no apparent reason.) The problem is womens standards are so messed up that people like me get folded instantly due to how modern women are. Like their is almost no competing with the upper end of men. About the snap them up young this is insane how true it is. Get them young if ya can but if your a sub 5 or even some low tier normies just dont bother cuz you aint gonna get anywhere.
@Edward Will Hey Ed, that was an awesome read. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Spot on in my opinion. Men have absolutely no leverage anymore. This is such an obvious reason as to why dating in the grand scheme is getting worse but it seems that it's gone right over society's head. This world has been used and abused.
@@Nick-cp8wf men did it to themselves. Promoting them. Hiring them over other more qualified men. Enjoy men. You’ve created this lop sided bullshjt. Now marinate in it.
@Edward Will Sadly so very true your statment ..."Thus, they will seek out Chad and Tyrone and if they can’t get him they will settle for moments with him and choose to remain single then the cost of being in a relationship with an avg guy." The alpha widow will always pine for and make exceptions for Chad.
@@blackpills.t.n7266 Yes it's weird to ask. I think, if you feel the need to ask, it means you have seen some bad signs in her personality, therefore she's not worthy for a serious relationship.
I always wondered about this phenomenon where some younger really attractive girls would date just an average young sometimes really short guy, since I frequent many gym's it now makes sense. She is just inexperienced in the dating world, but one thing I've also noticed is in time she'll eventually replace him when she starts realizing her true sexual market value. Which is just damn sad.
I've been telling this to guy for years. If you see an attractive girl with an average guy, it indicates how the attractive girl perceives herself. There are some attractive girls who don't have any awareness of their true smv, but in this generation, those girls are starting to see a massive decline because of social media and rampant validation obtained from simps and thirsties on there.
Great video and analytics as always. I have a few disagrewments tho. 1. "Why would any guy let go off a high value woman?" It happens. Some guys don't realise the value of the woman who they are with and take advantage of them or let themselves go. When they go bk into the dating market and experience low purity women, they'll realise what they had was someone special. 2. I actually haven't seen pretty women, even young ones, have too low standards. When they do its because they believe this guy although is not as good looking as them is either high purity (will treat them like a queen), money, high status or great game - like making them laugh constantly. 3. I looked at a couple of your purity ratings and disagreed a little. Such as "good relationship with parents". I would change that to "good relationships" in general or something. I mean, I wouldnt date a girl who didn't have a good strong friendship. Girls who cant keep friendships often have the same problems in relationships and become reliant on their partner to fill these voids. Obviously great if she gets on with parents but I'm looking at her relationships overall - siblings, nieces/nephews, grandparents included. I also disagree with "financial independent". She could be studying, working towards something but its super important that she's good with money and doesn't waste it meaninglessly 4. I was surprised you put no high purity women in the club. Yes they are very few but especially ages 18- early 20s girls go out and not all of them are trying to bang, get wasted but high purity ones will eventually realise this is not a good environment or settle down and not go out as much. 5. Whats this new craze about meeting girls at the gym? Its literally why my girl has a personal trainer now so random guys don't approach her. All I think about at the gym is... gyming! PS you said in one of your other vids that you're a nomie. I had no clue from your vids but this only became apparent to me when I listened to your live event. You speak like a nomie when you freestyle. You could be a chad in your structured YT vids and I wouldnt know. Please speak more like this when you're talking to girls in the future. Take your time. Don't rush your words. Less monotone and more emphasis on what you're saying. Don't cut people off at the instant. Chads don't have to cut people off, unless its a must. People will listen once they choose to speak.
If I did my math correctly (based on limited data), people who are 7 or above comprise only 5.5% of the population. They're very uncommon. Most people are 4s and 5s.
In order to "just be first" in 2022 you'd have to be prowling your middle school looking for the handful of girls whose parents haven't yet bought them a smartphone.
Just watched this. I had a great High value relationship from 22 to 26ish. Wanted to test the dating scene and sleep around just like all my peers were doing and eventually my partner and I broke up. Partner moved out of state and I stayed in state. We grew apart and broke up. It's been a year and a half since our break up, I've slept with dozens of partners and feel empty. Looking back I wish I never got into the relationship or moved with my partner out of state. Too late now. Partner has found a new partner and I'm alone in my late 20's trying to find a high value partner. Been in my worst physical and mental state since I was 20/21. I feel pathetic. So many regrets
1:40 Pure women should be financially independent? Meaning passive income covers all living expenses? That is a tough task, even for men. Unless you are born rich.
Yay, I won't be cheated and I won't be suck with LVW. Oh wait, I am anyway too ugly for current dating market to be treated as a human being with feelings. Pure redpilled cope.
lol I’ve had chad friends who getting cheated on and desperately wanted their LTRs to work out. Dating now a days is a zero sum game for all men. Casual sex on the other hand is a different story
Redpill has always been about the truth. Bluepill is about illusion, while Blackpill is about hopelessness. The concept doesn't just exist in dating. It also exists in others like politics. A redpilled guy will understand that dating isn't the only thing to pursue in life and will not complain on the Internet. A blackpilled guy will feel hopeless and will find a way to make him feel better about himself.
I'm 23, just finished college but struggle to find quality girls even my age! I've more female friends then men, and this is almost all girls in my experience. I was awkward before but now am attractive and girls often come up to meet at clubs since aged 22. A lot of girls stop caring about their body count around end of 2nd year college and most girls I know have 10+ body count by 4th year college (but lie it's 4ish to any man she wants). The thing is these girls look okay but aren't date able. College=Hook ups+ 3 month relationships, followed by hating men, then are now trying to get a man to permanently date. This stereotype is for 30 old women but applies to just graduated girls now. The few date able women I know have been with the same guy since they were 16ish. I'm terrified to be 25 cause I'll give up on marriage by then, the only other solution is date someone 18/19 and be labeled a creep, plus I don't know where to meet them.
@@harsh3948 Brad Pitt Or Leo Dicaprio pulling 20yos is apex fallacy. Your average 50yo is not pulling 20yos. Even your very wealthy 50yo is not pulling them. Those girls seeking sugar daddies, they bring with them the standards that social media and OLD apps imposed on them. They know there are chad 20something millionaires out there and they are actively looking for them, even on sugar dating websites. These women, even if they get in an arrangement with a 50yo they are still pulling guys their age on the side. They are disgusted by older men. They're disgusted by even the smallest of dating age gaps and see anything greater as abuse of power.
This! I dedicate my entire life to my looks. Looking younger and be physically fit, is a game changer. I often get mistaken for a guy in his mid 20s. Even though I'm in my mid 30s.
This mindset will keep you single. I am 51, I used to think just like you. Now, honestly I don't give the least f*ck. I have money, I work out, I am also an inline skater. I ask women of all ages (say 25-50 or so) if they want a work out partner. This removes the creep factor, but still allows for being confident. I get plenty rejected, but I have women I hang out with. I have one girl I play basketball with. One I skate with. I get to really know them that way. There is a clip from King of the Hill, it teaches you the secret to get women. czcams.com/video/N7FVmeJXwCY/video.html. You see a girl you like? Ask her to do some outdoor sport.
Agreed. This video had so many statistical moving parts it was like trying to look at the Matrix screen and actually being able to crack codes and see actual useful information and data. A 2d simulation explaining the dating market in real time. It seems almost possible to predict future probabilities of success by digging further into the data and research layed* out in the video
Too bad he will never be able to use this channel as a portfolio of his work though when looking for jobs because of the rampant wokeness/toxic feminism currently present especially in the world of work.
Typically only Chads and Tyrone’s get her while she’s high in purity because her goal is to lock down the highest value man possible. By the time most normies get to her she’ll be a 6 or lower on the purity scale
@@drissbelaid6131 why? chads and Tyrones are guys with the highest level genetics. Why would she want to take a chance on making an ugly/future incel baby?
@@Halo4beatsB02 but it takes some men longer than others. Some men have good genetics that allow them to build lots of muscle, and rich parents at an early age. Women aren't sitting around waiting for men to become "high value" they're having fun with the ones who already are.
Excellent video. However, it seems to me that crucial assumptions underpinning your development may not be verified in practice, and that you therefore slightly overestimate the effect of selection bias on the perspective of a single man: 1. Due to the lack of data on your purity criteria, you decided to evenly distribute the purity score across the board. I believe those criteria are mostly influenced by culture, and given the current culture that equates sexual liberation with empowerment, I doubt there are as many women with a high purity score as there are women with an average purity score. The actual situation may be worse: the options a woman has exponentially increases with her looks score (just like for guys as you explained in previous videos), and therefore her power. The current culture encouraging selfish and superficial behaviour, people with that much power are likely to abuse it, and I would conclude that *looks and purity are actually negatively correlated* (to which extend, I don't know). 2. In your part on relationship failure bias, you claim that a man in a relationship with a good-looking woman with a high-purity score would not let her go. I believe that it is not necessarily true. A man younger than, say, 28 may want to explore his options, regardless of the good quality of his girlfriend, even if he is not necessarily good looking, because he may be delusional about the reality of the market. That may create baggage in his good-quality now ex-girlfriend. However, this newly single highly attractive woman of around 25 yo, who may have previously be open to dating average men, will now realise her value (probably after trying a dating app, even if not for long) and increase her standards. In fact, with social media and dating apps, the number of women with ridiculously high standard is certainly at an all-time high, and this number is likely to be increasing. 3. You tacitly assume throughout the video that once a woman is in a relationship, she is out of the dating market. You severely underestimate how many women are in relationships with average men for comfort and stability, but still sneak out behind their back for flings with top-tier men from whom they cannot get commitment (or who simply do not "present well" as boyfriends for whatever reason). Of course their boyfriends would never suspect it and therefore believe that her "purity score" is higher than it actually is. The view of these top-tier men is indeed skewed because they will only have flings with women with low-purity score, but in my personal experience, many women, one would not suspect, fall in that category and ghost the top-tier men afterwards the deed. I do not know what proportion they represent (and probably never will), but I believe it is highly underestimated.
I was friends with a natural PUA in his 40’s, several years back and I could not believe the ease with which he was able to seduce all those ‘pure’ married women. I truly believe that around 75% to 90% in relationships + of women cheat. Observing my friend (let’s call him. Charlie) in action I got to see whole new dark sexuality traits of women. Also, I drove taxi during my college years and I can tell you that things are a lot worse than even the most hardcore BPillers could imagine. The answer? Thailand...
« but in my personal experience,many women one would not suspect fall into that category and ghost the top tier men afterwards the deed. » can you explain this part a little more bruh am kinda confused by it and what you mean?
@@michealdominic7788 Well, they have a normie boyfriend, occasionally cheats with a so-called Chad (in an ONS), then ghosts Chad and returns to normie and pretends nothing ever happened.
He's not lying about being a man in your 30's, the best thing you could tell is try to be the best version of yourself in your 30's and try dating some woman in her mid 20's, since most women in their 30's age very very badly.
interestingly enough, my brother is the male version of the "high value low standards," type. and thus he was always snatched up by less attractive girls from his teens until his 30s. Not really making much of a point other than saying I agree that this kind of person exists. And women are also subject to this phenomenon from men.
This happened with my younger brother too, back in HS he was a Chad-lite (7 to 8) and a chubby girl with a mediocre personality snatched him up. I was in shock because he went from dating solid 8s and 9s to marrying a fat girl. As a normie myself I was basically ignored by most women and had to pursue heavily to land my wife. But this was WAY before online dating.
You see, the difference is that "high value low standard" woman can still pick a good man - she just decides to go with the bad dude instead, for whatever reason. While men are usually not in a position to choose anything. Beggars can't be choosers. Also, "high value" is not necessarily "high quality". For example, a player dude is a high value but low value. A guy who doesn't drink, smoke, works hard may be high quality, but be low value. With women it's different - every average young woman is high value.
The highest #'s of women, with the greatest purity, are concentrated most in the 5 looks. Aiming in that level of looks should increase the chances for the longest relationship with a minimal attraction
Dream more, lmao. They all cheat in practice. In his theory he omits that most still entertain other men in the DMs on all the social media apps they never abandon even in relationships.
@@GGWP-nx3kn You are generalizing, which makes your statement less accurate. The greatest opportunities for a loyal woman, who is attractive enough, is down the middle. I agree at this time it's better not to attempt to gamble on a relationship lasting more than a couple months. For those diehards who refuse to give up looking for 'the one'. Down the middle on looks is the best strategy
I think the chart would look a bit like a fuzzy arch. The lowest women in looks are low in purity, it rises to purity highest in the middle group and then starts going back down as the looks get closer to ten. There are several reasons for this: one, there would be a class of lower purity women that don't take care of themselves and thus lower their looks level, two conversely there is a class of lower purity women that are able to peak their looks rating because of vanity, and three also for pretty women they basically have everything thrown at them throughout their life which tends to skew their perspective and leads to entitlement mentality.
girls make rules for betas and break them for alphas. The same girl you think is "high in purity" is only that way with the lower value men. She is still sleeping with higher value men on the first date and not making them wait etc. So you may be thinking you found "the one" when the whole time she let other men run through her, she's only making you wait because she's not that attracted or she's trying to give off the aura of purity because she sees you as relationship material not good enough for a one night stand.
Can you talk about the anti-male marriage/divorce laws and what alternatives guys have if they want to raise a family but afraid of the government/feminist laws?
Relocate to Eastern Europe, or Southeast Asia. *AND STAY THERE!* If you bring a w0man back to the States, she'll be indoctrinated into fourth wave f3minism, and you'll join the 80% of divorces are initiated by w0men statistic.
i was rated an 8 and now have a girlfriend which is a 5 but she: - is 18 - never been in a Club - doesn't drink or smoke - hasn't tattoos - isn't political at all - is pleasant to be around - watches anime - very innocent These points are way more with than Beauty, i had my fair share and have a Bodycount of 32 i got with absolute beautiful woman but these are soo arrogant and think the world revolves around her. I'm really happy with my girl now.
So when a woman decides to go for the good looking guys as a selection, and when that doesn't workout due to her getting used she goes for the average guy. But at the same time for example she teases the other selection of men, knowing she teases them through self pity is very hypocritical in my opinion.
There's some oversimplifications and variables that alter your points significantly actually. Two examples: Your chart does not account for individuals constantly changing their placement for example for uncountable different reasons. Secondly, I had a hard time gaining muscles working out when I was younger because I was a typical skinny guy. Now at 35 I can actually work with my body gaining weight naturally and my metabolism evening out because of age, so my gains are actually more faster and apparent now than 10 years earlier. And while I have no data on this, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of guys for which it is the same because ectomorph body types are a thing. All in all though, a pretty spot on analysis.
As a young skinny guy whose finally starting to put on muscle weight I think you may have just been doing it wrong. I was already eating more than everyone in my family and it took me to eat way may more than I thought I did in order to gain weight. I’ve almost doubled a lot of my meal size. The truck is to eat quickly before your stomach realizes that you’re full
I was eating around 6000 calories per day back then and it was exhausting to keep that up while I barely made any progress. I'm glad that now it's way easier to gain weight as strange as that may sound.
the whole video is not accurate. since when purity is equally distributed? for each group of looks AND when looks go up. since when we believe the behavior a women displays? she won't come over FOR YOU, doesn't mean NEVER FOR EVERYBODY. I'm 40, and I'm in a better shape than when I was 25 I go to the gym since then. don't forget that this channel is held by a 20yo boy. I listen to the content as an entertainement. if this guy misleads some young men with his advice, and then 10 years later he changes his mind about what he was saying, no one is gonna save those poor guys. so be aware of what you follow.
@@willf.8617 38 here and didn't you love how he accused us of survivorship bias? Does this kid even know what that term means? How are unsuccessful 30 somethings guilty of surviving anything? Survivorship bias is for those who lucked out and were successful. His distribution graph made absolutely no sense and wasn't generated based on any data. He just sprayed and figured it would fool and persuade enough of these easily impressionable kids. This is purplepilled content masquerading as blackpilled.
If you wait you're too late. Strong advice that's what should be passed around not some idiotic Irish proverb like good things come to those who wait. Wheat is destroying the BS from other so called dating coaches.
I don't think it's bad advice that if you're in a bad spot you should pull out of dating for 1-2 years while you looksmaxx/statusmaxx. Any longer than that though and the age pill will hit you and the supply of available quality women will drastic go down.
@@Fred-ur2sr the thing there is scarcity of "good girls" and when new cohort will enter the market a lot of them will be of market also not all will like 10-15 year difference. If you are thinking of improvement pill till 30s and then settle for 30+ "good girl" there literally is no point in that, low quality kids,baggage, and other shit.
It's one of the best videos you posted so far. Great job. It's so nice to see a young man growing ... live. What I found the mist important, you are growing out of "short black pill pants" you limited yourself originally. That's a real achievement! Congrats brother! You are becoming True Red Pill: you see that issues in relationships are created by both sexes and you point out most typical men's mistakes. Stand the line and good luck!
You have to include mental health, intelligence, and self awareness in the purity standard. That's more important than even low partner count in many cases.
Mental health will be very important for men to maintain and whether someone will accept that as a flaw that isn't a red flag will be tied to their physical attractiveness. I would hypothesise that it is less important for women in the same way as having a physical disability.
@@tootingcarmoon532 They most definitely are, i know a chicks with 20+ partners is a span a two years and her issues have been piling up overtime and have messed her up, to be fair its her fault cuz she loved getting ran through ( and shes about to turn 19 in a few months).
Really good analysis. The problem is, that there are in fact so many points left out the equation for almost every argument you made, that it makes almost the entire topic mostly invalid. Just some examples. Women with less experience might be more likely to settle down with an "average guy" but they are also more likely to break up because of the "fear of missing out". The lack of experience, which makes them doubt if they have made the right choice with their partners. Another point is that taking women out to just a coffee date with no sexual vibe will most probably get you friend zoned and therefore take you out of the game. She will much more likely reciprocate sexual attraction to the high value guy who triggers her sexual desire. That's why those women always say (and many even think) "normally i am not like that" "i never though't i would do that". Because they don't KNOW their own sexual strategy. Yet another point is, just because a woman has low standards when she is young, it certainly does not mean that she will stay like this for the rest of her life. Especially through social media nowadays, women tend to have more and more standards, increasing over time. There are many more points but writing them all down would make this comment endlessly long.
Oh, they're on dating apps. "not here much, follow my ig" or their bio is their ig. Dating apps are used to simply accrue more followers in their pursuit of being an influencer. Also, they're on Raxy for actual dating.
there are a few issues: - people sell used cars for many reasons. that theyre bad is just one possible reason. others include they need money, etc. so there may be other reasons for the breakup, not just because the partner is shit - finding a relationship in your early 20s sounds good in theory, but people change the most in their 20s and grow apart. many young people dont know what they want in life as well, goals change, values change alot in your 20s; most people are still finding themselves and what they want in life let alone a relationship...its common for people to drift apart after a long term relationship that started in their early 20s in college.
Good relationships with her parents is actually a BAD thing. At some time you ll find out you ve married her parents. And that won't end well. Being in exactly that position plus divorce fight basically against her PARENTS, believe me: I learned this lesson!
Wow! Man I'm always amazed by how accurate WW's perspectives are. As a Christian man a lot of datas and realities he shares match with what I learned about relationships, money and time to date. The early the better, the more you have more will be given. Purity is key for both men and women it would spare you a lot of headache and heartache
@@paulbarclay4114 I can see how this can be true for some men. However I work with a lot of young men and try to be a mentor to them. I hear a lot of stories and my conclusion based on their experiences. Men may become as damaged as women when they sleep with several sexual partners. Those boys now men who have married young and have known only one women they are almost perfect mentally.
@@keylanoslokj1806 I agree wth this statement. Maturity is actually mitigating possibilities of damage. Why sleep with many women, or expose oneself to a lot of risks? I person don't see how that can be advantageous. But to each his own. Understanding @Paul Barclay's view that maturity may help some men to not go damaged. But Would personally counter that saying that maturity may be playing it conservative, eliminating risks of being trapped by bad partners like some women do to successful men with pregnancy etc...
@@paulbarclay4114 I get what you're saying, However I'll argue sleeping with numerous women to then count one's level of maturity to not be damaged is (in my opinion) unwise. I promote a conservative way of life with a lot of men I meet during our chat. I have seen way to many success stories when men build relationships with high value women and stay faithful to them. (they avoided sleeping around with many women). But as I said to @Keylanos to each his own. I appreciate the share
I definitely agree and it's obvious. At uni in your early 20s was the best time to find your partner. But many including myself just didn't get this opportunity. And yeah after that are just the leftovers.
@@leonkennedy2909 then I highly advise you Ukrainian universities, they accept all foreigners, only need pay $, but tuition fee is not much 2k-3k usd in a year., Ukrainian chicks here are way more feminine and beautiful then in Europe or USA, and game is much easier. Cost for living is ok, you can consider it, having a white gf and kids, but not your nationality.
@@yuriishynkarenko3325 Sounds good but I don't speak any Ukrainian at all, nor do I have any interest in learning a language, except maybe Spanish because I watch a lot of Latina porn.
To clarify, I would guess very few 8,9,10 in purity, rising quickly so there would be nearly equal numbers of 6 through 1 purity. This would push the curve down making less green and more yellow, orange, red on WW’s graph.
According to what you said there is a minority of women who dates multiple guys at a time and they are "low quality". This is simply untrue, especially for girls in their prime years who are not overwhelmed with family, bills, work, children, housekeeping, etc. It is common sense to make the most out of a given time to date multiple candidates for them rather than for new experience/excitement or looking for a partner, it is not morally wrong per se because at its core dating is not like engagement or marriage. Also, you said that some women are getting removed from the dating pool while being in relationships which is partly true. Even those that, by your standards ones from 10/10 on the purity scale, probably won't be checking dating apps on daily basis, but these so-called purest ones are still open for opportunities. I mean, let's say the girl is dating this guy 5"10, intelligent, £50k income, then she goes to her friend's b-day party and meets that dude 6"3, has his own business, blue-eyed, blond hair, £170k income, has his own property. Of course, your "high quality" women will be considering opt-in for the newfound option. One must've been too naive to deny that. When you were talking about those 8-10/10 girls from the looks department that don't mind to date average 5/10 guys and you compared it with "Glamorous house with low price". It is ridiculous as expecting to pull the lucky lottery ticket. No doubt that this situation may occur, but this is a fucking outlier like 0.01% or less, normally you don't see that and even if you see something that resembles this situation, chances are that you're wrong and there is something going on behind the scenes. Lastly that thing about the dating market is that you said that for men the following applies: "First come, first served". No really, you should've said that this is not a simple queue, but a "Priority Queue". The latter works roughly like as follows: a guy gets added to the queue, and at that very moment the guy is being assigned some aggregated value(high/low quality by your terminology) or LMS(looks, money, status). So, you said that guys should enter as earlier as possible, guess what? In the early 20s, there is no money and status as such, the fucking competition between these guys pretty much boils down to looks competition. And there you have it is pretty much described as the guy's "priority" - priority determines the ordering in which guys get taken out of a priority queue. You know the drill, 5"5 guys are assigned abysmal priority values and get shuffled all the way to the very end of the queue.
Girls dating multiple guys at the same time is low quality. It means she isn't ready to commit to any guy and is just fucking around. (probably literally). A high quality girl is only going to date 1 (maybe 2) guys at the most at the same time. Anything more then either she isn't really dating, or she is a slut. Yeah I can still slut shame if I want.
I look at it this way. A woman has every right to date multiple different men at once. But once I've slept with her, if she's sleeping with anyone other than me then I'm out. She's not technically cheating. But I'm not going to try and compete with other men. If she's that indecisive about me, then she's not really that interested in me. Also, if she gets pregnant, then she likely won't know who the father is. So it's my right to want a girl all to myself. Even if we're just in the early stages of dating.
Started watching the first few minutes and thought to myself this graph reeks of Asperger's and almost pressed the back button, but as the video went on and more was explained I started thinking to myself actually this makes quite a lot of sense and a lot of things mentioned is something that a lot of guys will be overlooking. Good video.
I've been online dating for a decade now, have met women in real life, at bars, etc and he is 100% spot on with this analysis. The HARDEST thing every guy faces is trying to match the correct approach to each woman. One incorrect message could get you banned from a dating app but that same message to a different woman below your SMV will get you laid. It is honestly insane.
Selection bias means being one dimensional in one’s approach. Either going for looks, what’s in it for me etc instead of the entirety of the connection and chemistry
Great way of thinking. But it has a problem. While maybe 10 years ago even the women in top 30% were absolutealy wife material, every single day that percentage is dropping off of a cliff. Nowadays it's more like top 10%, maybe even less. A top 10% woman is never going to be satisfied with less than a top 10% man. And guess what? The VAST majority of top 10% men are in their 30s. Not in their 20s. This is especially true in Europe, where school takes much longer than in the US. Here you graduate with a master's degree when you're 25 or 26. Now imagine you're a software engineer. That means you have 0 warm approach chances in university or at work. You're starting working at 25, with the current real estate market, you're NOT getting out of your mother's basement until you're 30. If this is you, you are DOOMED. You WILL run out of time, since every year the young girls entering the market have lower and lower average purity. You will NEVER find an "ideal relationship". The healthiest thing you can do for yourself is to realize that your dreams of a kind and pretty wife are just that. Dreams. It will NEVER happen. Deal with it, get over it and focus on yourself. Build friendships with fellow guys who have similiar hobbies. Keep good relationships with your family members. Have a supporting net around you, and you will realize you have ABSOLUTELY 0 need of a woman in your life.
You have a great point. Except that the age pill is overrated as hell. So many guys I see now have HQW being late 30s or early 40s. Sure, these guys make 100-200k $ per year, but they didn't do anything particularly more interesting than use their degree to build a career (these guys aren't geniuses). I know like 5 examples of this, without even checking. The girls are pretty and young (25-30). And the girls either have children with these guys now, or look very interested in the having children with them. For the reasons you list, the "age pill" just isn't as true, as long as you take care of yourself, have nice clothes, and generally make yourself attractive. I was an 8/10 guy at my very best (around 23-25) and I could probably get ONS with 8/10 girls, but they would never want me for a relationship, because I was a broke student living in a student apartment. As a guy in the West, if you are educated, 30-35 are your golden years.
@@gaborb6577 I actually 100% support that. The VAST majority of people should NOT procreate. If they do, you'll see the society fall to the lowest common denominator, as is happening right now. There are simply much more stupid people than smart people.
what stops you from getting a part-time internship in your early-mid 20s, buy crypto, invest in stock market, do looksmaxxing, look 25 when you are 30-32. If you avoid drunk parties in your 20s, invest wisely you can achieve 250k-350k savings by the age of 32 easily, especially with crypto, isn't that enough to get to the top 10% of men and still be dateable?
I highly believe in the „just be first“ theory. The hottest girl I know (celebrity hot like 9.5-10/10) has been in a relationship with a 6-7 guy since she is 14 and they are together for 8 years now. She could get everybody now but has settled for her classmate from back in the day
she also gets older too! but new girls are born and younger girls enter the dating market too. They all start at the top and slowly drop drop drop and this is why the old girl you are the lower your value cause not only due to age and fertility but the odds of an older 30+ woman having a body count of over 200 is more likely than a girl who just entered the dating market at 18. Although she can easily rack up 200+ in one years time. Just assume the older she is the high body count plus her youth tight skin and fertility is out the window so no matter what even if she only had 5 partners she is still low value.
One thing you got wrong here is the relationship search when you're young being a life goal. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice ideal and IT SHOULD be like that. However, truth is most couples who start between 18-24 years old don't last very long and there's a high separation and divorce rate. Even if both are high value. How do you think there are so many single parents past 24 years old? Because their relationship in their early/mid 20s didn't work out. I know there are exceptions to this and some people are together from highschool until they're old, but that's like the 1%
@Babanoo Most single parents (especially single mothers) in their twenties are low purity themselves. You're guilty of the same selection bias WW was talking about in this video.
@@ansof3112 Probably true, doesn't change a fact that "dodging bad relationships" in case of like 70% of viewers there is like standard thing - we don't get to date ANYONE, so we shouldn't care anyway
1:28: You have already fallen into the trap of selection bias yourself. Men can't judge female attractiveness based on online dating. Why? Most women use heavy makeup as well as filters to alter their appearance. Additionally 1:57 aka your distribution of purity is highly unlikely. Hot people have an abundance of options and as such there is a high likleyhood that their purity is lower than an averages person.
Exactly! Thank you. People in general look different in photos. Even men. I can take some selfies with my phone with no filters and no strategic lighting, and I look UNRECOGNIZABLE. I know people who look far worse or far better in photos. In addition to that, the whole rating system is flawed. A woman who is dolled up can be a 7: makeup, hair, earrings, push-up bra, heels. Then you see her in her everyday life and she is a 5. Women fluctuate a lot
I was fat my entire teenager years wich means I never dated anybody. But I had this mindset that I will find the right women when I'm older, like why would anybody want to marry before 30? At 23 I realized I wasted my best years. And I still fat, so you can expect that I will probally not get anybody before 25. Yeah, I think it's best to give up on my dream of becoming a father.
I would love an additional feature of this visualization that includes a time dimension to this graph as a representation of how the female dating pool changes over time. That'll be perfect tbh.
I can give you some: improvement is a cope and the things you're missing out on while improving that, even if you're successful in your goal, they will never be obtainable again and it will eat you up knowing your improvement prize was enjoying for many years already. It never even began.
I'm south Asian although a westernised national, so I don't have the embarrassing accent or cultural traits etc. And I'm 6"2. BUT I've been bald since I was about 31/32, now I'll be 39 years old next month. I've tested around 7 photos on photofeeler and I've got scores between 6.4 - 8.8. So maybe I'm not so bad and this is purely my face (height is not included in the test). Own my place, not an amazing but steady income for the moment, sporty and in decent shape, travelled to almost 60 countries, speak 2-3 languages. Yet despite all that I've been single now for 7 years and still have never had full intercourse despite having had a few relationships when I was younger. My last relationship which was only a few months I had to endure psychological abuse and in the previous one, significant gaslighting. I am worried whether a relationship will ever be a reality. I've always wondered why I cannot get the attention of decent white looking girls i.e. Stacey lites and instead end up going on dates with sub 5s who I'm not that attracted to. I'm happy with girls my own race too but as we know they tend to lean towards white men. Now I know it's because I'm a bald currycel. I've been on dating apps and websites for many years, try and go out to socials and singles events and do still manage to get dates here and there but it's so difficult it seems to find that attraction and connection. Every time it seems the women that express interest in me, I'm not keen on (sub 5s) and vice versa, all the girls I like aren't into me. The only time I find myself with a girlfriend is in my dreams, literally. For a moment overnight I would occasionally experience that feeling of being connected to a woman in that way, only to wake up and realise what is a reality for millions of everyday people is still only a mere fantasy for me. Infact last night I had a dream where I cycled through 5/6 different women. No intimacy as such but I experienced that connection and physical attraction with a woman, which is exactly what has been lacking.
@@vrsinghe At this point, I would have settled for that, some kind of arranged marriage. Better than being on your own but as I said and as you probably know yourself being a currycel, South Asian women prefer white men and if you're Asian you have to be high value, be a doctor, plenty of income etc. Furthermore, I'm Christian so that makes it even more challenging as most Asian women are not church going Christians.
i am also south asian (born raised in india till age 10), i am 46 now but short 5'9". when i travel to mumbai, i am a god. i enjoy the girls there as an NRI. follow my lead.
Interesting content. My only concern is that looks should be somewhat relative to the guy's SMV. This indicates that if a guy is a average then a gal in the same range is better match and much more likely. This changes the skew of the distribution an adds nuance. Sure it is possible for a 5 guy to get an 8 gal, but it is not all that likely. An average guy getting a high-purity average gal is a good outcome.
I've been saying this forever. Alot of average guys problem. Is they are Punching above their weight. They want the women chads get. And it's not going to happen unless they buy them with money. Or the girl is on RARE occasion pissed with chads. So settles for a more average guy. knowing he is likely to worship her.
“Single ladies having low standards”, no freaking way, for me they don’t exist. They have nothing but extremely high standards. If they actually had low standards, I wouldn’t still be single.
I really like your videos, both the atmosphere and the information they contain. You're smart and express yourself well. The only criticism I have is about something noticed on other occasions and now I notice it again: Being too young limits some of your conclusions (as it should be, by the way). A man in his early 20's hardly knows himself (or about women and relationships) to get a long-term partner, even with all that purity. And he probably not have enough money (yes, relationship with quality women implies spending money). Futhermore, western society today plays against relationships in many ways and the chance of a breakup due to boredom and/or curiosity is huge. Not just for the woman, but for the man as well. A man who still young but more mature and experienced in various layers of life would have a better chance of starting something stable. And that's another misconception of yours: you consider guys in theirs 30's to be some kind of uncles. I thought that too when I was in my 20's... But it's just not true. Anyway, the ideal scenario would be a man in his mid 30's with a woman in her earlys's 20's... Both in their prime. But it's not that way anymore, and because of this and other reasons, long-term relationships are doomed.
@@michealdominic7788 In the context I referred to, a quality woman usually has goals like starting a family, traveling, living comfortably in general. And that requires financial support. Even if the bills are split. She can afford to have this kind of goals because, given that she has quality, she has good suitors who can offer this lifestyle... And hypergamy is real.
Im so pissed because i got a "be first" Situation with a woman i really liked and because i didnt keep self improving i lost her. It truly sucks because the dsting market and the quality of whatd offered is scary, and me personally i value purity very much
Wrong. You would have lost her anyway. She was no longer attracted to you. Attraction fades. You’ve been lied to. Assuming she was attracted to you in the first place
Let's be honnest guys, if we have trouble to get a relationship it means it's over, people find love without doing anything, we are suffering for no reason, we should just give up, or go to asia and stay there.
If you give a female an access to a western society or wake up her true self, she will behave the same. Asia is pure cope, all we can eventually do is to get a hooker, which is also empty as hell. It's over.
I was frustrated never bitter, I understood attraction. When I balded at 19 entering college, I knew my love life was ended already prematurely. I've bought 🐈 every since and I'm 37 almost38 now
Best decision of my life... giving a sh*** about all those stats and women in general. Happiest i've ever been. Nevertheless great analytical content as always wheat!
Two things: First is that attractive women are less likely to have lower standards so it isn’t really an evenly spread standards variable. Btw by low standards, you mean the more shy, trad-ish, not beauty obsessed, unsocial ones (they don’t put themselves out there (on the market)). Two is that most of just be first is really just get her before Chad interacts with her/shows interest. And by the way, they still have look standards. A stacy is not giving a normie a chance… no way.Especially without money (or height). What’s sad is that normies still receive positive attention/seggsual attraction, but it’s just that vvomen as they grow older think that the grass is greener and are just this unsatisfied with normies (sometimes even if he compensate).
@@herewego2086 For sure, 120 would be like top 15th percentile, but based on his reasoning skills, unique video style, and relatively young age, I would estimate his IQ to be in the 130 range.
These guys: women have such high standards!!! Also these guys: I want a really hot woman who is also really pure, so she shouldn't be noticed by other man before me
Women judge men for things he cant control: Height, D-size, Balding Men judge women for things she can control: Body Count, Children Count, Weight, How She treats her family members This girl probably: "B-but men have equally high standards ;-;"
Also religious people (avoiding extremist crazy groups) tend to have morals and ethics, that includes women believe it or not. Guess the word of God works after all
The problem is that after you're 25 years old approaching virgin girls becomes creepy af and these girls are usually not mature enough to build a proper relationship with. Imagine being like 26, good stable income, having a car, planning on buying a house, etc and you start dating a fresh out of highschool virgin 18 year old who doesn't know shit about life, doesn't have a job most likely, just wants to waste money on vacations and parties, etc. It's going to be an hassle relate to her, I guarantee you. That's why age gap is lowkey one of the biggest problems in the dating market. Nowadays if the age gap between partners is over 5 years, it's a relationship doomed to fail imho
So. I'm 31, never had a relationship despite trying my whole adult life. I've been in and out in terms of fitness (would spend a lot of time getting fit, getting frustrated because it changed nothing, abandoning it and gaining weight, getting fit again because I've gained too much weight, getting neglectful because being fit didn't matter, rince and repeat). I'm not an investor or some shit, and will never become, but I'm in a pretty good place financially (especially by local standards), and self-employed. I'm also not looking to date a bitter divorcee with children. Since I never had a relationship, I'm not looking to jump into the hard part of relationship while skipping the easy part. Is there no hope for me? Have I lost my chance?
… well, if you stay focused, observing, on alert, you’ll be dodging quite a number of more bullets. this doesn’t truly happify only but not suffering from toothache | headache | … shouldn’t be undervalued either.
It's hard but not impossible, but your chances increases/decreases depending of: You spend time around women? Women find you attractive? What hobbies do you have?
"If a young man manages to get a relationship with a high quality woman, why would he even think of letting her go? She's loyal. She's kind. There'd never be a reason for him to break up." That statement, and most of this entire argument, seems to ignore the fact that women often leave men. More divorces are initiated by women, right? And I'd wager a significant portion of those single mums in their thirties are ones who left guys who were "just first." So, getting in before a woman realizes her worth isn't that great of a strategy, because eventually she'll realize her value, whether she's with you or not. She'll put two and two together, even if she "committed" to you first or even married you. I'm not a bloke, so it doesn't really impact me, but I'm wondering what Wheat's "solution" for that might be.
… I guess the quote rather was suggesting a definition of what a HWF would be behaving like, being one such indeed. just to recognise a unicorn in the unlikely case it were occurring. highly academic point made, though.
Yes. Good point. One of my friends, he was with his wife since high school. They eventualky got married and had 2 kids. So, they been together for 20+ years. However, younger men were checking her out/flirting because she had big boobs. She got tempted and eventually fooled around multiple times. She had 2 guys in bed with her at the same time.
why look for relationship IF they dont find you attractive. if they accept netflik n chill THEY cant resist and being attractive your not just a beta provider.
Thanks for tuning in guys. I’ve been experimenting over the last few months with regard to the style of uploads and I have decided to prioritize quality over quantity
I hope you appreciate the hours that have been spent creating recent videos (especially the 7 Reasons Women Date Up video) and in return I hope to deliver equally high quality content in the coming months 👍
@ZoinkingMyJinkies It’s highly unlikely he’d be down for a livestream/debate. I reached out to him before and he gave a long winded response for why he isn’t available, you can see for yourself if you scroll to a couple months ago on the community tab of my channel
I really like this channel and I appreciate the professionalism you present yourself and I'm happy to hear you improve the quality of your videos and it shows. Good work!
@@WheatWaffles esperando o youtube traduzir pra eu consegui assistir. 🇧🇷
@@WheatWaffles Please activate the subtitles. This makes it much easier for non-native English speakers, who hear you from other countries. With the subtitles activated, youtube makes the "automatic translation" feature available, making it easier for us.
@@brunojunior9843 Eu também tô esperando, fiquei até decepcionado quando abri o vídeo e não tinha legenda 🥲
I like this guy. No bitterness or passionate drivel, just data, logic, and cold hard facts, regardless of how ugly they may sound.
yea
"Data, logic...." none of this is based on any study. He admits this when talking about "purity" and the 10 tenants he just literally made up to scale a womans "purity". A lot of this is just pulled out of his ass bro. It might seem like it makes sense but this is just psuedo science horse shit. It reminds me a lot of the way the founder of the church of Scientology, L ron Hubbard, would manipulate stats.
Coz he's an Engineer! Other professions are low iq!
Proof : Engineers are dominating every exam!
@@Hello-ib4fz I worked with engineers, albeit in the govt, and they were quite grandiose, haughty and thought that they could program everything. I work as a statistical analyst with strong math background and saw how they not only misinterpreted statistical science and reasoning, but then would concoct creative ways of blame shifting and denial.
Lawyers are the same way.
Anywhere you have collective Narcissism and / or tribal wisdom.
That being said, I generally agree with WW, as his presentations are well researched and documented. His inferences and interpretations square with my own experiences and observations. Though they are not popular, due to public's magical thinking on the matter of "love" (think the American "reality" show The Bachelor / Bachelorette, a tragedy of wealthy stupidity), for those seeking sensible answers, this channel is not a bad place to start.
The dating market seems to square with genetic determinism, when operating without human introspection and ethical intervention, as it does in those most powerful socioeconomic strata.
um that's how men are in general...
After being on dating apps for years and getting no matches or even likes, I'm finally reaching the conclusion that I'm a "sub-5," and I'm starting to be at peace with it.
don’t be at peace with it. don’t roll over and submit like some pathetic dog. get angry. get motivated.
Dating Apps are not the objektiv tool to validate your SMV. Only the best 10% are matched. Go out there and throw this app away
Dude: no, you're a sub-8. Or, realistically, a sub 9.5. Welcome to the majority of the male population.
@@grahamdamberger7130 who cares if you are ugly, what matters is what you do
Don't just go by the dating apps, do you get any attention from real life girls in a warm environment? If the answer is still no, then yes you are a sub 5.
Just be first was also real back 20yrs ago. I remember a lot of women with 10y with the same first guy. To the point they meet a Chad in her late 20s. Then they dropped their 5s immdiately and said „The first time I feel real love“. It was brutal then and is brutal today. But today most average men don‘t even have this benefit of being first due to social media.
Yeh, nowadays being first means you already nailed the girl when she was 12. Which is CP and disgusting but I hear it every day from woman when they lost their V card. And you can guess that most of them lost it way under legal age.
20s is too late to be first. Unless you're high tier normie and above
@Penderyn Depends on the area. Rural cities and towns are... yeah... From my own experience from one: Girls in these towns hook up with ugly guys until they take 1 look at what they can get in the city and then they're gone. And many of them lose their flower at ages 13-15. Which is not a sign of a high quality woman, but many of them are simply pretty and naive. And then they go out to study, and they are never heard from again. Can't blame them, though, everyone wants to max their outcomes in life. The thing is that what WheatWaffles is calling "pure" is often a woman who doesn't know her value (yet) and thus doesn't play the market to her benefit. The classic "hot, but doesn't know it"-unicorn.
@@ParleLeVu Are you Indian?
@@Hello-ib4fz No. European.
All the high quality women are already in relationships. The only women left are of low quality and are only interested in being dug out by one Chad after another.
It's not a meme anymore. It really is OVER.
Not true at all
@Krel: correct. the idea of finding a women, even under 22, with under 100 body count is like finding a needle in a haystack.
@@josealexi5141 bro idk where u are from but I don’t know a single woman of any age with over 100 in body county
@@abcdef-ev5bc you need to get off the farm and into a city with more than 500 people.
@@josealexi5141 I live in a city with 3 million + people bro. Maybe u hang out with prostitutes but idk
I'm beginning to understand why so many more men check out early at mid life. Unattractive men are pretty much doomed to a life of despair regardless of what they do, but they cling to a false sense of hope for as long as possible. Most people aren't foolish enough to believe that life will somehow become worthwhile after 20 years of failure and increasing isolation. Inevitably, hope is extinguished by reality.
Hope is merely the unrealistic desire for a positive outcome in the future.
I think only in terms of dating. Unfortunately, unattractive men (but also I guess women) must come to peace with such a brutal reality. They will never be wanted or desired by the other sex and they will never experience the feeling of true desire. But I don't think life is only about sex and reproduction. I believe that you can find purpose and live a meaningful life even as an undesired unloved man. For the sex, you can lower your standards low enough until you find a match, or if you care too much about your dignity, then just live alone and pay for sex from time to time.
@@karimmanaouil9354 Even ugly people can build living relationships. There’s ample evidence of this.
Only 40% of men get to reproduce. Of course this is top 40%, not just randomly picked from the men's pool.
My theory is that over time, the gene quality increases as bad genes get thrown out of the gene pool.
If you don't have good enough genes, you're out of the gene pool. It's the harsh reality.
@@karimmanaouil9354 sub-5s will never feel true love and affection but that doesnt mean they will never get a girlfriend. it's just that the relationship quality they got is sub-par.
Just Be First relationships almost never last. The moment a woman realizes that she can do better, she will start to date up. And why wouldn't she?
Exactly. My cousin dated up. They dated from 19 to 26. Then she went off to study (in a small city, even), and saw that her girlfriends (who were about as good looking as her) were getting guys way better looking. So she started to sabotage the relationship bit by bit until my cousin finally had enough and lashed out at her. Then she used that to further pull it apart, going on "breaks" until finally (wanted to keep him around until she found what she wanted), she met a guy who made 150,000 $ per year, was 2 inches taller and a bit better looking. Now she's fully committed, looking like her uterus is about to explode from anticipation, and they've already bought a house (mostly with his money). Oh, and she's making about 45,000 a year, so she nailed a guy at her level looks-wise, but beyond her level in everything else.
By the way, don't listen too much to the "age pill". He's not "top 10%", and 34, she's 26. He's a 6,5 guy lookswise, about 5'11 (181 cm). He is good-looking, but far from a Chad. And he isn't gymmaxed. She was into him BEFORE knowing how much he made.
Just be first worked back when the internet wasn't ubiquitous with smartphones. It is no longer applicable. As a 38yo I can tell you that when we were teenagers we rated women no further than the outskirts of our highschool and considered them the be-end-all. Then we turned 18 and started going to bars and clubs and suddenly we saw women whose looks we never could have imagined before. Imagine having that exposure immediately thanks to social media? You're screwed. I am a walking failed normie.
@@ihatelensflare Yeah, when you grow up in a small town, the moment you step into the outside world, you will be overwhelmed. Now as a woman you don't even need to get out, there is intimacy only a button press away.
@@Atombender I can tell you that from being on sugar baby websites as a means to get paid dates that 10 years ago you would be overwhelmed by the attention you received. It was like being a woman or giga chad. Women did all the approaching and first messaging. Now? Holy fuck. These girls are now used to 20something chads being millionaires and they will not a approach anyone with the first message. I bowed out when I discovered my money isn't enough anymore. You have to be rich and be chad. That's how much tinder and instagram has affected their standards. There is no respite to be found anywhere.
@@ihatelensflare : you wrote _"Then we turned 18 and started going to bars and clubs and suddenly we saw women whose looks we never could have imagined before."_
I want to caution men of ALL ages to stop being so star-struck over women's looks. When men drool over women it makes them look weak & thirsty. Yes, we all like to look at & get naked with beautiful women but show me a hot chick in a bar and I'll show you 20 better looking girls in the next bar.
Good looking women are a dime a dozen, high value men are rare and they are the _REAL_ prize!
Clicked faster than a woman simping for Chad
You win a comment contest today
@Mr. Fresh that's impossible.
I clicked faster than you simping for Big Shirley
Lol
Damn that must of been fast 💨
My man Wheat tells it like it is, no sugar coating. These videos open my eyes even when the reality of the dating market is generally bad news. I do appreciate the last part of the video where there is some practical advice.
He rates himself a 6. So I don't think he tells it like it is. Most people rate him a 4 which is more on the money.
No sugarcoating? Take a look at my page then.
@@fender1000100 they only say he’s a 4 because he’s a redhead.
@@fender1000100 he’s an objective 5
@@CarbonGod666 Which makes sense since redheads don't have a favorable response from women.
Tbh the “just be first” move won’t be a lasting long-term relationship if you don’t improve yourself along the way. Otherwise hypergamy will do its job in due time
… maybe the issue is less of ‘improving yourself’ but more on not stopping | becoming complacent in personal development | growth | maturational along life.
You realize the odds of a woman cheating are vastly lower if you are her only partner right? Just be first is the single best way to keep hypergamy from taking its course
@@duncanthepharaoh It is not about cheating. The danger is losing respect from your girlfriend. You see, If you become complacent, and stagnant in your life while your girlfriend with a higher SMV keep pushing forward she will loose respect for you because she will see other more successful men that she can easily attract in her environment, and also her friends and colleagues will do significant damage to you when they ask her why is she still with such a loser, she can do so much better... Here is the story from my friend, he met a girl 3 year younger than him, and mutual friends set them up. He was a 6 in looks, and he just finished some low level faculty with bad grades, while she was on 2nd year in economics, business management and statistics in the prestigious university, and one of the best students. Later she specialized in marketing. She was 6 in looks back then when they met. He could not find a job so he started working as a land Stewart in the airport. After 3 years, when she finished her master degree, he was still at the same job, going nowhere. But she got a high paying job in a major software company, and in a matter of year she became one of the best B2B sellers. She out-earned him like 5x in her salary. And not only that, but her friends and colleagues who were also successful were constantly making fun of her, like "Why is she with a porter?!" She also hit the gym hard upgraded her looks to a 7. So she mogged him in all LMS and that led her to completely loose her respect for him. She did not cheat him, she just broke up and moved forward. After her, he could not find another girl any more...
For anyone going with the "just stay off dating apps" cope:
Quality women do use Instagram though, and Instagram is pretty much the defacto most popular dating app because hundreds of guys will be in her DM's on there. I have never encountered a single available attractive woman that does not use social media. It'd be like looking for a unicorn.
Lol I just found one so they do exist
@Sniper on social media it does in person most definitely not
My gf rarely use insta and she's attractive. I found a unicorn i guess.
There are plenty of attractive women not on/barely on Instagram. Women active on Instagram are more likely to be shallow.
Why be a creep online ??? go to a PUB man and get to know some people.
Damn, came in here expecting to not agree but you nailed every point, barring the "skipping dates" thing, but that's my own selection bias.
Kudos, Wheat.
I'm impressed that he's going 'against the grain' with every other content creator, by advising getting in first while you're young
That always seemed to be a huge tactical flaw, in my opinion
If guys are 'working on their grind' for their twenties..
...what you'll end up with, is bitter bipolr btches that have been run through by everyone, before they look at you again (and see a walking ATM), and guys who are still fresh and sweet with no real relationship experience, which the bip bches absolutely despise
A match made in hell
@@hardplans2366 Yup. Even going younger (how they'll try to counter your point),will get you a gen z girl 😐 sounds horrible. I hate to imagine an 18 yr old guy today, waiting until he's in his 30s...I highly doubt a 18-25 yr old woman in 2035ish is going to be worth dealing with. They're not getting any better.
I mostly agree, though in my younger years I've had zero success with women and I wasn't a fat blob with no job - I was making 6 figures, weight lifting, learning "game"... and all I ever saw is a look of disgust from women. Why? Well I am short - 5'6 plus I have neurodiversity problems like visibly shaking hands and speech impairment. It's just not as simple as "oh hit the gym and get a job" as you've made it sound.
Waffles ignores the losses you incur during your 'improvement'. Every day you spend improving is a day lost with a companion. What does he think these women are doing? Waiting around? No, they're getting fucked by guys who are already improved because they never needed to improve. They knew to be the best from the starting gate to be able to maximise their enjoyment. You will never get back those years you missed out on and it will absolutely eat you up being with a woman who only slept with the most 'improved' men. Improvement is pure, unadulterated blue/purple pill cope.
Getting more fit, self improvement and increasing warm approach networking is actionable constructive advise vs negative. Any success with these will make one better at the least for themselves. Wheat's does in another video goes into his decision tree for more aggressive suggestions like relocating to another country and surgery (What Should You Do In Your Dating Life? (In-Depth Flow Chart Guide)). Would do these self improvements first. And yes if you have reasonable options don't put them off, goes without saying that above advise is for someone with fewer quality prospects.
Only solution is switching the point of origin from gynocentric to androcentric - and start taking trips to Thailand.
@@ihatelensflare nah if you have a decent face improving can do wonders
@@ihatelensflare He literally says you need to get a gf in your 20s
very nice
Aren't you against blackpill? reply:)
Got my relationship in my 20s, girlfriend was a few years younger than me. First relationship she ever had. In short, kind of your ideal situation. Didn't stop her from cheating and breaking up with me. You wanna know the reason? In her own words, I was like this cake she always ordered at the bakery and that she loved, but she saw that new pastry that really tempted her so... you know, she had to try it out. I'm actually thankful for the lesson she taught me. My brother had a burnout due to his jobless wife not doing jackshit at home.
This video does provide good logical arguments, but it's sadly not just a selection bias as the concerns have risen since WITHIN said biases, indicating a clear shift.
Bro really needs to teach me all his PowerPoint skills cause bro has mastered it
Chasing chad is the strongest selection bias among women today and something I have witnessed first hand. Have a female friend who has connected with a chad on Hinge and she confided in me about her experience. She's a very attractive Asian woman in her mid-twenties, somewhat vain and narcissistic, has high standards but low on purity (high body count). He's the typical chad archetype; muscular, good looking, charming, domineering and monied. He has splashed the cash on her, expensive restaurants, hotels, plane fare, promises of future trips and says she's the only one. Oh, and he's 27 years older than her (52) and it's a long distance deal. Had cave man sex (rough) on the second fly-in date and she's smitten, can't see any red flags with this guy. Tried to warn her her but she's hoping he's the one. It's no doubt a fling for him but the hoped for real deal for her. I would say she's a typical female of her generation with the exception she prefers dating much older men (their maturity and wealth in particular). She's destined to join the legion of alpha widows. The dating landscape for the majority of men today is abysmal with most being a second best option to chads.
Wow
She’s just a typical golddigger. No young woman in her right mind would wanna settle down with a 52 yr old…chad or not unless he’s statusmaxxed or rich.
@@harsh3948 I'm sad to say that's wrong. A female friend about 30 Y.O, pretty, from a good family, has decent income. Dates a guy at 45 with 5 children (who he has with 2 or even 3 other women). And she's far from alone in that regard. About 10-15% of women, of both high and low quality, are extremely attracted to wealth, and don't care that much about age.
@@harsh3948 decent point
@@ParleLeVu how am I wrong? Being attracted to wealth = golddigger. Your own example makes my case stronger
Blackpill hits on every situation and every country with dating market. In asia, beauty standards is already high but it's HIGHER in some western or european countries. That's why a 4/10 white guy in asia will become 6/10 and a 6/10 asian guy in Germany would become 4/10.
the race pill is real...not alot of people want to talk about given our PC climate but it is so true.
I’m a 7/10 Asian in the US and am still an incel at 28 despite maxxing out everything I can. I am doing well with my career, finances, fitness, and am 5’11. But all I can possibly get are landwhales, single moms, and girls 30+ years old. Since I refuse to settle for that, I’m still an incel.
@@chuckcochran462 the race pill is real, bro... i know its brutal..
@@chuckcochran462 you need to direct approach instead of using dating app. How can you possibly compete when there is a 9 two swipe away.
Espcially in Korea
You're making the assumption that highly attractive women don't sleep around casually, when in reality they usually sleep around the most since they are the most desirable to all men. Hook-up culture has ruined women and the possibility of finding one who's "pure", that idea doesn't exist in any level of woman. I drive ride-share in a D1 college town, so I get to hear and see the things woman talk about and how they act. Even the "high quality" ones sleep around casually, it doesn't matter if she's attractive, and studious and smart/hardworking. Women love sex just as much if not more than men, and the ones who are the most desirable have the most sex simply because they have the most options and opportunity to do so. And as a ride-share driver, I get to see how woman really think because they don't talk the same way around people. Its almost as if they forget you exist and aren't human so they are much more open than they would be around other men/women in normal social settings. Also, you're assuming that just because a woman goes to a nightclub automatically makes her more low quality when in reality some of the smartest, and most attractive women I've met have been going to/ coming from bars and nightclubs. Plenty of these girls go just to have fun with their friends and dance/ receive attention from other men with no intention of sleeping with them. Then they end up going home to their boyfriend or going to a dudes house that they are sleeping with.
I agree, there are deeper details than what is presented here.
This is just a matter of how you define "purity". My, and most other men's definition is closer to Weat Waffle's. In our definition, there's little to none possiblity that a high bodycount woman is a high quality woman. In other words, generally speaking, high bodycount = low quality.
They enjoy sex just as much but have a FARR lower sex drive that's why so many women go weeks without sex queuing up for when Chad is available
@@zeni.7 which means every single woman is low quality, especially ones who look good. Idk what you think is going on out here, but these girls are all fucking. As I said before, I drive rideshare in a D1 college town so i get to see a closer look into how females talk when no one is around and what they think about/ how they act etc. Most of the girls cheat on their boyfriends, and are having casual sex if they aren’t in a committed relationship. The idea of “purity” doesn’t exist in 2022, casual sex has become the norm and it’s now considered weird if you don’t partake in it.
Probably the most realistic comment I’ve seen on a Wheat video. Wheat brings up valid points, but I definitely think he can be a bit dramatic and even too much of a doomer sometimes.
10/10 video wheat waffles! I've learned and watched you for a year now, and found out so many things for to me learn and evolve myself it to with your videos. I'm 14, above average in looks, tall and athletic body type. I worked myself to be a better man because of your videos and found hope in woman because of my timing of discovering your amazing videos and cannot wait for the future! Keep on making these incredible videos to inspire other men to better themselves in appearance and mentally, wish you the best my man!
@Chris Chu I mean like 8/10 and above, and I know it was just luck of genetics but you know I had to put it in
Keep up the good work my friend,makes me happy as an old guy to see young folk doing what your doing. I had no such content to learn from. I've learned it all the hard way.It shouldn't be like that.
3/10 video
@@zelvf9388 lol at 14 years old , regardless of looks, your just an infant. I sit until you old enough and see what’s up
@Chris Chu Yes i know how rare it is, I guess I'm lucky to be one of the few. And about your question, your profile picture is pretty blurry but I'm pretty sure you have more potential then what he told you my instagram is my username here. Hit me up there if you wanna discuss this further.
Bro, you have reached level of quality and depth in terms of analysis in this video I've never seen before.
Your argumentation truly has shaken my beliefs. Well done and thanks 👍
Just a point....
I suspect women wouldn't come back into the dating market at the same purity levels, since her purity level will very likely have gone down from being with the guy(s) she dated last.
So as they date more, a lot of low-purity women would collect in the pool, as the high-purity women are snapped up for good.
That perfectly explains why guys are having trouble finding just decent looking or below average looking high-purity women.
Because the amount of low-purity women keeps growing and growing, while the high-purity women are usually completely out of the pool for very lenghty periods of time.....if they ever come back.
It's no bloody wonder it's difficult being a man with standards......especially if you're just average 🤣
EDIT: Alright, you made that point in the second half 🙂
It's just common economy. Attractive wares get snatched up ASAP, and less attractive ones get left for last. Have you ever seen the economy of a bread stand? Tried the last few pieces of barely edible baseball bats? That's basically the dating market.
"I suspect women wouldn't come back into the dating market at the same purity levels, since her purity level will very likely have gone down from being with the guy(s) she dated last."
Yeah I noticed he didn't adjust them down a hair as well. But still, it's a reasonable proxy, especially by his specific definition of purity (where they need to have good relationship with dad etc. etc. which won't change just because she broke up with a dude(s)).
The insane selection bias in regards to dating is honestly baffling until you realise welcome to the real world. The purity thing is very true and im happy you addressed it to the extent it happens. High standards bias happens alot, the low standards women go quickly, i know a 4 who has extremley high standards and she has had a few relationships by few i mean over 20 partners in 2 years. Also aging bias and poor dating strats happen frequently. Either way this video is still well thought out and well made. ( I cant wait to be featured on a channel attacking the blackpill for no apparent reason.) The problem is womens standards are so messed up that people like me get folded instantly due to how modern women are. Like their is almost no competing with the upper end of men. About the snap them up young this is insane how true it is. Get them young if ya can but if your a sub 5 or even some low tier normies just dont bother cuz you aint gonna get anywhere.
@Edward Will Yep, everything you stated is cold hard facts. Welcome to a new era, the decline of humanity.
Women of today are living on a spectrum depending on her age and the corresponding phase.
@Edward Will Hey Ed, that was an awesome read. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Spot on in my opinion. Men have absolutely no leverage anymore. This is such an obvious reason as to why dating in the grand scheme is getting worse but it seems that it's gone right over society's head. This world has been used and abused.
@@Nick-cp8wf men did it to themselves. Promoting them. Hiring them over other more qualified men. Enjoy men. You’ve created this lop sided bullshjt. Now marinate in it.
@Edward Will Sadly so very true your statment ..."Thus, they will seek out Chad and Tyrone and if they can’t get him they will settle for moments with him and choose to remain single then the cost of being in a relationship with an avg guy." The alpha widow will always pine for and make exceptions for Chad.
Hardly any women is going to be honest about her body count. Given there is no way to prove it it’s kind of pointless.
A woman attitude can reflect her body count, or at least her promiscuity tendency.
There is.
When you ask them about their sexual history, do it while looking them directly in the eyes. If you do this, you WILL know the truth.
Exactly! Asking is seen as a huge red flag by her anyway because women see it as a weird question
Just look at the width of her "butterfly" (If you catch my drift).
@@blackpills.t.n7266 Yes it's weird to ask.
I think, if you feel the need to ask, it means you have seen some bad signs in her personality, therefore she's not worthy for a serious relationship.
I always wondered about this phenomenon where some younger really attractive girls would date just an average young sometimes really short guy, since I frequent many gym's it now makes sense. She is just inexperienced in the dating world, but one thing I've also noticed is in time she'll eventually replace him when she starts realizing her true sexual market value. Which is just damn sad.
Exactly!
I've been telling this to guy for years. If you see an attractive girl with an average guy, it indicates how the attractive girl perceives herself. There are some attractive girls who don't have any awareness of their true smv, but in this generation, those girls are starting to see a massive decline because of social media and rampant validation obtained from simps and thirsties on there.
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thats definitely a bad attitude to have
Is it sad or is it just ..fair?
Great video and analytics as always. I have a few disagrewments tho.
1. "Why would any guy let go off a high value woman?" It happens. Some guys don't realise the value of the woman who they are with and take advantage of them or let themselves go. When they go bk into the dating market and experience low purity women, they'll realise what they had was someone special.
2. I actually haven't seen pretty
women, even young ones, have too low standards. When they do its because they believe this guy although is not as good looking as them is either high purity (will treat them like a queen), money, high status or great game - like making them laugh constantly.
3. I looked at a couple of your purity ratings and disagreed a little. Such as "good relationship with parents". I would change that to "good relationships" in general or something. I mean, I wouldnt date a girl who didn't have a good strong friendship. Girls who cant keep friendships often have the same problems in relationships and become reliant on their partner to fill these voids. Obviously great if she gets on with parents but I'm looking at her relationships overall - siblings, nieces/nephews, grandparents included. I also disagree with "financial independent". She could be studying, working towards something but its super important that she's good with money and doesn't waste it meaninglessly
4. I was surprised you put no high purity women in the club. Yes they are very few but especially ages 18- early 20s girls go out and not all of them are trying to bang, get wasted but high purity ones will eventually realise this is not a good environment or settle down and not go out as much.
5. Whats this new craze about meeting girls at the gym? Its literally why my girl has a personal trainer now so random guys don't approach her. All I think about at the gym is... gyming!
PS you said in one of your other vids that you're a nomie. I had no clue from your vids but this only became apparent to me when I listened to your live event. You speak like a nomie when you freestyle. You could be a chad in your structured YT vids and I wouldnt know. Please speak more like this when you're talking to girls in the future. Take your time. Don't rush your words. Less monotone and more emphasis on what you're saying. Don't cut people off at the instant. Chads don't have to cut people off, unless its a must. People will listen once they choose to speak.
Hunting for an smv woman 7 or higher is a fools errand for most men. Purity or otherwise.
If I did my math correctly (based on limited data), people who are 7 or above comprise only 5.5% of the population. They're very uncommon. Most people are 4s and 5s.
In order to "just be first" in 2022 you'd have to be prowling your middle school looking for the handful of girls whose parents haven't yet bought them a smartphone.
@@vrsinghe well, if you were chad, women would have paid your bail like they did Meeks :)
@@vrsinghe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭
Just watched this. I had a great High value relationship from 22 to 26ish. Wanted to test the dating scene and sleep around just like all my peers were doing and eventually my partner and I broke up. Partner moved out of state and I stayed in state. We grew apart and broke up. It's been a year and a half since our break up, I've slept with dozens of partners and feel empty. Looking back I wish I never got into the relationship or moved with my partner out of state. Too late now. Partner has found a new partner and I'm alone in my late 20's trying to find a high value partner. Been in my worst physical and mental state since I was 20/21. I feel pathetic. So many regrets
Was this a business partnership?
You fumbled the bag my man
@@Walking.L My 304*
My case is opposite, she wanted to do it. I knew that it is hard to find good partner but this should both us realise
Dozens of partners...
Good luck finding a high quality man now.
"Create your own Selection Bias" is great advice
... and learn to be alone as an average man.
Or go to Thailand for fun times with hot woven (PS All men pay, just ask Johnny Depp)
Top comment of the day.
1:40 Pure women should be financially independent? Meaning passive income covers all living expenses? That is a tough task, even for men. Unless you are born rich.
Yay, I won't be cheated and I won't be suck with LVW.
Oh wait, I am anyway too ugly for current dating market to be treated as a human being with feelings. Pure redpilled cope.
No a jak
Yeah I'm not seeing much blackpill. Not even redpill. This is purplepilled.
lol I’ve had chad friends who getting cheated on and desperately wanted their LTRs to work out. Dating now a days is a zero sum game for all men. Casual sex on the other hand is a different story
@@FoB39 it's not zero sum. Negatives are by far worse than possible win
Redpill has always been about the truth. Bluepill is about illusion, while Blackpill is about hopelessness.
The concept doesn't just exist in dating. It also exists in others like politics.
A redpilled guy will understand that dating isn't the only thing to pursue in life and will not complain on the Internet. A blackpilled guy will feel hopeless and will find a way to make him feel better about himself.
I'm 23, just finished college but struggle to find quality girls even my age!
I've more female friends then men, and this is almost all girls in my experience.
I was awkward before but now am attractive and girls often come up to meet at clubs since aged 22.
A lot of girls stop caring about their body count around end of 2nd year college and most girls I know have 10+ body count by 4th year college (but lie it's 4ish to any man she wants).
The thing is these girls look okay but aren't date able. College=Hook ups+ 3 month relationships, followed by hating men, then are now trying to get a man to permanently date. This stereotype is for 30 old women but applies to just graduated girls now.
The few date able women I know have been with the same guy since they were 16ish.
I'm terrified to be 25 cause I'll give up on marriage by then, the only other solution is date someone 18/19 and be labeled a creep, plus I don't know where to meet them.
Remember: You will only be called a creep if you’re ugly. Chad can be in his 50’s and still get 20 year olds.
@@harsh3948 Brad Pitt Or Leo Dicaprio pulling 20yos is apex fallacy. Your average 50yo is not pulling 20yos. Even your very wealthy 50yo is not pulling them. Those girls seeking sugar daddies, they bring with them the standards that social media and OLD apps imposed on them. They know there are chad 20something millionaires out there and they are actively looking for them, even on sugar dating websites. These women, even if they get in an arrangement with a 50yo they are still pulling guys their age on the side. They are disgusted by older men. They're disgusted by even the smallest of dating age gaps and see anything greater as abuse of power.
This! I dedicate my entire life to my looks. Looking younger and be physically fit, is a game changer. I often get mistaken for a guy in his mid 20s. Even though I'm in my mid 30s.
This mindset will keep you single. I am 51, I used to think just like you. Now, honestly I don't give the least f*ck. I have money, I work out, I am also an inline skater. I ask women of all ages (say 25-50 or so) if they want a work out partner. This removes the creep factor, but still allows for being confident. I get plenty rejected, but I have women I hang out with. I have one girl I play basketball with. One I skate with. I get to really know them that way. There is a clip from King of the Hill, it teaches you the secret to get women. czcams.com/video/N7FVmeJXwCY/video.html. You see a girl you like? Ask her to do some outdoor sport.
Damn, really opened my mind. I'm still not gonna enter the dating pool as I am not in the position for a relationship right now or ever if I'm honest.
Wheat, your future career should be statistician, demographer or actuarial analyst.
He is a math teacher lol
@@jojogojo9486 How do you know this
Agreed. This video had so many statistical moving parts it was like trying to look at the Matrix screen and actually being able to crack codes and see actual useful information and data. A 2d simulation explaining the dating market in real time. It seems almost possible to predict future probabilities of success by digging further into the data and research layed* out in the video
Too bad he will never be able to use this channel as a portfolio of his work though when looking for jobs because of the rampant wokeness/toxic feminism currently present especially in the world of work.
This gentleman's content is so damn high quality.
Typically only Chads and Tyrone’s get her while she’s high in purity because her goal is to lock down the highest value man possible. By the time most normies get to her she’ll be a 6 or lower on the purity scale
If she's only looking for a Chad or Tyron, she's not in her highest purity.
@@drissbelaid6131 why? chads and Tyrones are guys with the highest level genetics. Why would she want to take a chance on making an ugly/future incel baby?
@@Cameron_David_ no meant be the best version of yourself, then enter the dating scene. You will have a higher chance of success
@@Halo4beatsB02 but it takes some men longer than others. Some men have good genetics that allow them to build lots of muscle, and rich parents at an early age. Women aren't sitting around waiting for men to become "high value" they're having fun with the ones who already are.
@@drissbelaid6131 every girl looks for the best, but could also be sigma
This is a very high IQ and high quality video Wheat Waffles. Very well made. Good job. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙂
But I don't get what he says about 1M$ dollar Lamborghini purchase
I mean there are a lot of girls out there
How you couldn't find one in your 30s
Excellent video. However, it seems to me that crucial assumptions underpinning your development may not be verified in practice, and that you therefore slightly overestimate the effect of selection bias on the perspective of a single man:
1. Due to the lack of data on your purity criteria, you decided to evenly distribute the purity score across the board. I believe those criteria are mostly influenced by culture, and given the current culture that equates sexual liberation with empowerment, I doubt there are as many women with a high purity score as there are women with an average purity score. The actual situation may be worse: the options a woman has exponentially increases with her looks score (just like for guys as you explained in previous videos), and therefore her power. The current culture encouraging selfish and superficial behaviour, people with that much power are likely to abuse it, and I would conclude that *looks and purity are actually negatively correlated* (to which extend, I don't know).
2. In your part on relationship failure bias, you claim that a man in a relationship with a good-looking woman with a high-purity score would not let her go. I believe that it is not necessarily true. A man younger than, say, 28 may want to explore his options, regardless of the good quality of his girlfriend, even if he is not necessarily good looking, because he may be delusional about the reality of the market. That may create baggage in his good-quality now ex-girlfriend. However, this newly single highly attractive woman of around 25 yo, who may have previously be open to dating average men, will now realise her value (probably after trying a dating app, even if not for long) and increase her standards. In fact, with social media and dating apps, the number of women with ridiculously high standard is certainly at an all-time high, and this number is likely to be increasing.
3. You tacitly assume throughout the video that once a woman is in a relationship, she is out of the dating market. You severely underestimate how many women are in relationships with average men for comfort and stability, but still sneak out behind their back for flings with top-tier men from whom they cannot get commitment (or who simply do not "present well" as boyfriends for whatever reason). Of course their boyfriends would never suspect it and therefore believe that her "purity score" is higher than it actually is. The view of these top-tier men is indeed skewed because they will only have flings with women with low-purity score, but in my personal experience, many women, one would not suspect, fall in that category and ghost the top-tier men afterwards the deed. I do not know what proportion they represent (and probably never will), but I believe it is highly underestimated.
I was friends with a natural PUA in his 40’s, several years back and I could not believe the ease with which he was able to seduce all those ‘pure’ married women. I truly believe that around 75% to 90% in relationships + of women cheat.
Observing my friend (let’s call him. Charlie) in action I got to see whole new dark sexuality traits of women. Also, I drove taxi during my college years and I can tell you that things are a lot worse than even the most hardcore BPillers could imagine. The answer? Thailand...
I wholeheartedly agree Artin!
« but in my personal experience,many women one would not suspect fall into that category and ghost the top tier men afterwards the deed. » can you explain this part a little more bruh am kinda confused by it and what you mean?
@@michealdominic7788 Well, they have a normie boyfriend, occasionally cheats with a so-called Chad (in an ONS), then ghosts Chad and returns to normie and pretends nothing ever happened.
Just started watching, but I already know it's a high quality video as usual.
He's not lying about being a man in your 30's, the best thing you could tell is try to be the best version of yourself in your 30's and try dating some woman in her mid 20's, since most women in their 30's age very very badly.
No women over 25!
Unfortunately, purity ia not related to age only. Pre teenagers are doctrinated by social media and peers...
Yet more confounding factors Waffles fails to account for.
interestingly enough, my brother is the male version of the "high value low standards," type. and thus he was always snatched up by less attractive girls from his teens until his 30s. Not really making much of a point other than saying I agree that this kind of person exists. And women are also subject to this phenomenon from men.
This happened with my younger brother too, back in HS he was a Chad-lite (7 to 8) and a chubby girl with a mediocre personality snatched him up. I was in shock because he went from dating solid 8s and 9s to marrying a fat girl. As a normie myself I was basically ignored by most women and had to pursue heavily to land my wife.
But this was WAY before online dating.
You see, the difference is that "high value low standard" woman can still pick a good man - she just decides to go with the bad dude instead, for whatever reason.
While men are usually not in a position to choose anything. Beggars can't be choosers.
Also, "high value" is not necessarily "high quality". For example, a player dude is a high value but low value. A guy who doesn't drink, smoke, works hard may be high quality, but be low value.
With women it's different - every average young woman is high value.
The highest #'s of women, with the greatest purity, are concentrated most in the 5 looks. Aiming in that level of looks should increase the chances for the longest relationship with a minimal attraction
Dream more, lmao. They all cheat in practice. In his theory he omits that most still entertain other men in the DMs on all the social media apps they never abandon even in relationships.
@@GGWP-nx3kn You are generalizing, which makes your statement less accurate. The greatest opportunities for a loyal woman, who is attractive enough, is down the middle. I agree at this time it's better not to attempt to gamble on a relationship lasting more than a couple months. For those diehards who refuse to give up looking for 'the one'. Down the middle on looks is the best strategy
I think the chart would look a bit like a fuzzy arch. The lowest women in looks are low in purity, it rises to purity highest in the middle group and then starts going back down as the looks get closer to ten. There are several reasons for this: one, there would be a class of lower purity women that don't take care of themselves and thus lower their looks level, two conversely there is a class of lower purity women that are able to peak their looks rating because of vanity, and three also for pretty women they basically have everything thrown at them throughout their life which tends to skew their perspective and leads to entitlement mentality.
girls make rules for betas and break them for alphas. The same girl you think is "high in purity" is only that way with the lower value men. She is still sleeping with higher value men on the first date and not making them wait etc. So you may be thinking you found "the one" when the whole time she let other men run through her, she's only making you wait because she's not that attracted or she's trying to give off the aura of purity because she sees you as relationship material not good enough for a one night stand.
Just look around who give birth. They are mostly 5-7. The some 8-10 mates only with 9-10 rich guys
Can you talk about the anti-male marriage/divorce laws and what alternatives guys have if they want to raise a family but afraid of the government/feminist laws?
Relocate to Eastern Europe, or Southeast Asia. *AND STAY THERE!* If you bring a w0man back to the States, she'll be indoctrinated into fourth wave f3minism, and you'll join the 80% of divorces are initiated by w0men statistic.
@Gav Liddle But I don't wanna marry in asian countries
i was rated an 8 and now have a girlfriend which is a 5 but she:
- is 18
- never been in a Club
- doesn't drink or smoke
- hasn't tattoos
- isn't political at all
- is pleasant to be around
- watches anime
- very innocent
These points are way more with than Beauty, i had my fair share and have a Bodycount of 32 i got with absolute beautiful woman but these are soo arrogant and think the world revolves around her. I'm really happy with my girl now.
Do you watch anime?
What do you think about settling for a lower value? Does that make you happy? Do other people have weird looks about you?
@@grind75hoursaweekjusttoget48 yeah
@@donwarren3253 as long as I'm happy i dont give a shot and a 5 isn't ugly it's average so I don't have a problem.
@@hannesn2871 have you ever seen vampire hunter d blood lust?
So when a woman decides to go for the good looking guys as a selection, and when that doesn't workout due to her getting used she goes for the average guy. But at the same time for example she teases the other selection of men, knowing she teases them through self pity is very hypocritical in my opinion.
Women ☕️
There's some oversimplifications and variables that alter your points significantly actually. Two examples: Your chart does not account for individuals constantly changing their placement for example for uncountable different reasons. Secondly, I had a hard time gaining muscles working out when I was younger because I was a typical skinny guy. Now at 35 I can actually work with my body gaining weight naturally and my metabolism evening out because of age, so my gains are actually more faster and apparent now than 10 years earlier. And while I have no data on this, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of guys for which it is the same because ectomorph body types are a thing. All in all though, a pretty spot on analysis.
Your metabolism slowed down and therefore it’s easier for you to put on more weight with less food. That’s literally all it is
As a young skinny guy whose finally starting to put on muscle weight I think you may have just been doing it wrong. I was already eating more than everyone in my family and it took me to eat way may more than I thought I did in order to gain weight. I’ve almost doubled a lot of my meal size. The truck is to eat quickly before your stomach realizes that you’re full
I was eating around 6000 calories per day back then and it was exhausting to keep that up while I barely made any progress. I'm glad that now it's way easier to gain weight as strange as that may sound.
the whole video is not accurate.
since when purity is equally distributed? for each group of looks AND when looks go up.
since when we believe the behavior a women displays? she won't come over FOR YOU, doesn't mean NEVER FOR EVERYBODY.
I'm 40, and I'm in a better shape than when I was 25 I go to the gym since then.
don't forget that this channel is held by a 20yo boy. I listen to the content as an entertainement. if this guy misleads some young men with his advice, and then 10 years later he changes his mind about what he was saying, no one is gonna save those poor guys.
so be aware of what you follow.
@@willf.8617 38 here and didn't you love how he accused us of survivorship bias? Does this kid even know what that term means? How are unsuccessful 30 somethings guilty of surviving anything? Survivorship bias is for those who lucked out and were successful.
His distribution graph made absolutely no sense and wasn't generated based on any data. He just sprayed and figured it would fool and persuade enough of these easily impressionable kids. This is purplepilled content masquerading as blackpilled.
Finding a relationship in your twenties is not an option if you are in your mid 40's
@The hero we deserve 😂😂😂
If you wait you're too late. Strong advice that's what should be passed around not some idiotic Irish proverb like good things come to those who wait. Wheat is destroying the BS from other so called dating coaches.
I don't think it's bad advice that if you're in a bad spot you should pull out of dating for 1-2 years while you looksmaxx/statusmaxx. Any longer than that though and the age pill will hit you and the supply of available quality women will drastic go down.
But I don't get what he says about 1M$ dollar Lamborghini purchase
I mean there are a lot of girls out there
How you couldn't find one in your 30s
Dating Roaches
@@Fred-ur2sr the thing there is scarcity of "good girls" and when new cohort will enter the market a lot of them will be of market also not all will like 10-15 year difference. If you are thinking of improvement pill till 30s and then settle for 30+ "good girl" there literally is no point in that, low quality kids,baggage, and other shit.
@@mayhemguy8432 if you're good at your 30s why you go for 30+
You can get 24-27 girls
It's one of the best videos you posted so far. Great job. It's so nice to see a young man growing ... live. What I found the mist important, you are growing out of "short black pill pants" you limited yourself originally. That's a real achievement! Congrats brother! You are becoming True Red Pill: you see that issues in relationships are created by both sexes and you point out most typical men's mistakes. Stand the line and good luck!
You have to include mental health, intelligence, and self awareness in the purity standard. That's more important than even low partner count in many cases.
Honestly i agree with this, especially self awareness. Honestly it is dumbfounding how unaware women can be at times.
Don't you think they are related? A lot of women with high body counts have a poor mental state.
Mental health will be very important for men to maintain and whether someone will accept that as a flaw that isn't a red flag will be tied to their physical attractiveness. I would hypothesise that it is less important for women in the same way as having a physical disability.
@@tootingcarmoon532 They most definitely are, i know a chicks with 20+ partners is a span a two years and her issues have been piling up overtime and have messed her up, to be fair its her fault cuz she loved getting ran through ( and shes about to turn 19 in a few months).
@@BlackHole-qv5no the chance of winning the lottery is higher than finding an 18 year old virgin nowadays 😆
Really good analysis. The problem is, that there are in fact so many points left out the equation for almost every argument you made, that it makes almost the entire topic mostly invalid. Just some examples.
Women with less experience might be more likely to settle down with an "average guy" but they are also more likely to break up because of the "fear of missing out". The lack of experience, which makes them doubt if they have made the right choice with their partners.
Another point is that taking women out to just a coffee date with no sexual vibe will most probably get you friend zoned and therefore take you out of the game. She will much more likely reciprocate sexual attraction to the high value guy who triggers her sexual desire. That's why those women always say (and many even think) "normally i am not like that" "i never though't i would do that". Because they don't KNOW their own sexual strategy.
Yet another point is, just because a woman has low standards when she is young, it certainly does not mean that she will stay like this for the rest of her life. Especially through social media nowadays, women tend to have more and more standards, increasing over time.
There are many more points but writing them all down would make this comment endlessly long.
" Most high value females are not on dating apps" well they aren't in the club's and certainly not at the college either. So what's left ?
Oh, they're on dating apps. "not here much, follow my ig" or their bio is their ig. Dating apps are used to simply accrue more followers in their pursuit of being an influencer. Also, they're on Raxy for actual dating.
@@ihatelensflare Whats raxy?
there are a few issues:
- people sell used cars for many reasons. that theyre bad is just one possible reason. others include they need money, etc. so there may be other reasons for the breakup, not just because the partner is shit
- finding a relationship in your early 20s sounds good in theory, but people change the most in their 20s and grow apart. many young people dont know what they want in life as well, goals change, values change alot in your 20s; most people are still finding themselves and what they want in life let alone a relationship...its common for people to drift apart after a long term relationship that started in their early 20s in college.
Think harder on your points. You’ll find that in fact they do not discredit the video.
Good relationships with her parents is actually a BAD thing. At some time you ll find out you ve married her parents. And that won't end well. Being in exactly that position plus divorce fight basically against her PARENTS, believe me: I learned this lesson!
Wow! Man I'm always amazed by how accurate WW's perspectives are. As a Christian man a lot of datas and realities he shares match with what I learned about relationships, money and time to date. The early the better, the more you have more will be given. Purity is key for both men and women it would spare you a lot of headache and heartache
@@paulbarclay4114 I can see how this can be true for some men. However I work with a lot of young men and try to be a mentor to them. I hear a lot of stories and my conclusion based on their experiences. Men may become as damaged as women when they sleep with several sexual partners. Those boys now men who have married young and have known only one women they are almost perfect mentally.
@@paulbarclay4114 it matters for men too. The most perverted things you do the less stable your relationships
True that bro. I’m a SDA Christian as well and hearing this stuff is low key preparing me for life going forward.
@@keylanoslokj1806 I agree wth this statement. Maturity is actually mitigating possibilities of damage. Why sleep with many women, or expose oneself to a lot of risks? I person don't see how that can be advantageous. But to each his own. Understanding @Paul Barclay's view that maturity may help some men to not go damaged. But Would personally counter that saying that maturity may be playing it conservative, eliminating risks of being trapped by bad partners like some women do to successful men with pregnancy etc...
@@paulbarclay4114 I get what you're saying, However I'll argue sleeping with numerous women to then count one's level of maturity to not be damaged is (in my opinion) unwise. I promote a conservative way of life with a lot of men I meet during our chat. I have seen way to many success stories when men build relationships with high value women and stay faithful to them. (they avoided sleeping around with many women). But as I said to @Keylanos to each his own. I appreciate the share
I definitely agree and it's obvious. At uni in your early 20s was the best time to find your partner. But many including myself just didn't get this opportunity. And yeah after that are just the leftovers.
you can come back to the uni to do master degree in your late 20s- early 30s, if you are handsome enough you can still get a success.
@@yuriishynkarenko3325 Tried that, they rejected my masters application without giving me a reason. Not even a decent university either.
@@leonkennedy2909 then I highly advise you Ukrainian universities, they accept all foreigners, only need pay $, but tuition fee is not much 2k-3k usd in a year., Ukrainian chicks here are way more feminine and beautiful then in Europe or USA, and game is much easier. Cost for living is ok, you can consider it, having a white gf and kids, but not your nationality.
@@yuriishynkarenko3325 Sounds good but I don't speak any Ukrainian at all, nor do I have any interest in learning a language, except maybe Spanish because I watch a lot of Latina porn.
@@yuriishynkarenko3325 Isn't Ukraine a war zone right now? The hell.
Unfortunately, I would doubt an even distribution of purity criteria. It will be a bell curve or even a logarithmic curve IMO.
To clarify, I would guess very few 8,9,10 in purity, rising quickly so there would be nearly equal numbers of 6 through 1 purity. This would push the curve down making less green and more yellow, orange, red on WW’s graph.
According to what you said there is a minority of women who dates multiple guys at a time and they are "low quality". This is simply untrue, especially for girls in their prime years who are not overwhelmed with family, bills, work, children, housekeeping, etc. It is common sense to make the most out of a given time to date multiple candidates for them rather than for new experience/excitement or looking for a partner, it is not morally wrong per se because at its core dating is not like engagement or marriage.
Also, you said that some women are getting removed from the dating pool while being in relationships which is partly true. Even those that, by your standards ones from 10/10 on the purity scale, probably won't be checking dating apps on daily basis, but these so-called purest ones are still open for opportunities. I mean, let's say the girl is dating this guy 5"10, intelligent, £50k income, then she goes to her friend's b-day party and meets that dude 6"3, has his own business, blue-eyed, blond hair, £170k income, has his own property. Of course, your "high quality" women will be considering opt-in for the newfound option. One must've been too naive to deny that.
When you were talking about those 8-10/10 girls from the looks department that don't mind to date average 5/10 guys and you compared it with "Glamorous house with low price". It is ridiculous as expecting to pull the lucky lottery ticket. No doubt that this situation may occur, but this is a fucking outlier like 0.01% or less, normally you don't see that and even if you see something that resembles this situation, chances are that you're wrong and there is something going on behind the scenes.
Lastly that thing about the dating market is that you said that for men the following applies: "First come, first served". No really, you should've said that this is not a simple queue, but a "Priority Queue". The latter works roughly like as follows: a guy gets added to the queue, and at that very moment the guy is being assigned some aggregated value(high/low quality by your terminology) or LMS(looks, money, status). So, you said that guys should enter as earlier as possible, guess what? In the early 20s, there is no money and status as such, the fucking competition between these guys pretty much boils down to looks competition. And there you have it is pretty much described as the guy's "priority" - priority determines the ordering in which guys get taken out of a priority queue. You know the drill, 5"5 guys are assigned abysmal priority values and get shuffled all the way to the very end of the queue.
Girls dating multiple guys at the same time is low quality. It means she isn't ready to commit to any guy and is just fucking around. (probably literally).
A high quality girl is only going to date 1 (maybe 2) guys at the most at the same time. Anything more then either she isn't really dating, or she is a slut. Yeah I can still slut shame if I want.
I look at it this way. A woman has every right to date multiple different men at once. But once I've slept with her, if she's sleeping with anyone other than me then I'm out. She's not technically cheating. But I'm not going to try and compete with other men. If she's that indecisive about me, then she's not really that interested in me. Also, if she gets pregnant, then she likely won't know who the father is. So it's my right to want a girl all to myself. Even if we're just in the early stages of dating.
Started watching the first few minutes and thought to myself this graph reeks of Asperger's and almost pressed the back button, but as the video went on and more was explained I started thinking to myself actually this makes quite a lot of sense and a lot of things mentioned is something that a lot of guys will be overlooking. Good video.
I've been online dating for a decade now, have met women in real life, at bars, etc and he is 100% spot on with this analysis. The HARDEST thing every guy faces is trying to match the correct approach to each woman. One incorrect message could get you banned from a dating app but that same message to a different woman below your SMV will get you laid. It is honestly insane.
Selection bias means being one dimensional in one’s approach. Either going for looks, what’s in it for me etc instead of the entirety of the connection and chemistry
Just be handsome, bro.
Nail in the coffin💯
Great way of thinking. But it has a problem.
While maybe 10 years ago even the women in top 30% were absolutealy wife material, every single day that percentage is dropping off of a cliff.
Nowadays it's more like top 10%, maybe even less.
A top 10% woman is never going to be satisfied with less than a top 10% man. And guess what? The VAST majority of top 10% men are in their 30s. Not in their 20s.
This is especially true in Europe, where school takes much longer than in the US. Here you graduate with a master's degree when you're 25 or 26.
Now imagine you're a software engineer. That means you have 0 warm approach chances in university or at work. You're starting working at 25, with the current real estate market, you're NOT getting out of your mother's basement until you're 30.
If this is you, you are DOOMED. You WILL run out of time, since every year the young girls entering the market have lower and lower average purity. You will NEVER find an "ideal relationship".
The healthiest thing you can do for yourself is to realize that your dreams of a kind and pretty wife are just that. Dreams. It will NEVER happen.
Deal with it, get over it and focus on yourself. Build friendships with fellow guys who have similiar hobbies. Keep good relationships with your family members. Have a supporting net around you, and you will realize you have ABSOLUTELY 0 need of a woman in your life.
Actually the first assumption of the video would be that not everyone should procreate. Depending on society the 20-40%? All the rest is statistics.
You have a great point. Except that the age pill is overrated as hell. So many guys I see now have HQW being late 30s or early 40s. Sure, these guys make 100-200k $ per year, but they didn't do anything particularly more interesting than use their degree to build a career (these guys aren't geniuses). I know like 5 examples of this, without even checking. The girls are pretty and young (25-30). And the girls either have children with these guys now, or look very interested in the having children with them.
For the reasons you list, the "age pill" just isn't as true, as long as you take care of yourself, have nice clothes, and generally make yourself attractive. I was an 8/10 guy at my very best (around 23-25) and I could probably get ONS with 8/10 girls, but they would never want me for a relationship, because I was a broke student living in a student apartment. As a guy in the West, if you are educated, 30-35 are your golden years.
@@gaborb6577 I actually 100% support that. The VAST majority of people should NOT procreate. If they do, you'll see the society fall to the lowest common denominator, as is happening right now. There are simply much more stupid people than smart people.
what stops you from getting a part-time internship in your early-mid 20s, buy crypto, invest in stock market, do looksmaxxing, look 25 when you are 30-32. If you avoid drunk parties in your 20s, invest wisely you can achieve 250k-350k savings by the age of 32 easily, especially with crypto, isn't that enough to get to the top 10% of men and still be dateable?
@@yuriishynkarenko3325 Yes dude. Just invest into crypto and you'll be mega rich. RIGHT TO THE MOON BABY!
8:55 RE used cars. This is an established economic principle called "the market for lemons" and definitely applies to dating
I highly believe in the „just be first“ theory. The hottest girl I know (celebrity hot like 9.5-10/10) has been in a relationship with a 6-7 guy since she is 14 and they are together for 8 years now. She could get everybody now but has settled for her classmate from back in the day
L. It usually ends before they are 30
Each time a lady returns to the pool, she moves lower on Y-Axis.
she also gets older too! but new girls are born and younger girls enter the dating market too. They all start at the top and slowly drop drop drop and this is why the old girl you are the lower your value cause not only due to age and fertility but the odds of an older 30+ woman having a body count of over 200 is more likely than a girl who just entered the dating market at 18. Although she can easily rack up 200+ in one years time. Just assume the older she is the high body count plus her youth tight skin and fertility is out the window so no matter what even if she only had 5 partners she is still low value.
One thing you got wrong here is the relationship search when you're young being a life goal. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice ideal and IT SHOULD be like that.
However, truth is most couples who start between 18-24 years old don't last very long and there's a high separation and divorce rate. Even if both are high value.
How do you think there are so many single parents past 24 years old? Because their relationship in their early/mid 20s didn't work out.
I know there are exceptions to this and some people are together from highschool until they're old, but that's like the 1%
Disagree.
@Babanoo Most single parents (especially single mothers) in their twenties are low purity themselves. You're guilty of the same selection bias WW was talking about in this video.
Btw just a reminder that Wheat is a normie level in looks, most of us aren't even close to being average. It never begun.
Most of us are average . but because social media and dating app , women think we are ugly .
@@ansof3112 Probably true, doesn't change a fact that "dodging bad relationships" in case of like 70% of viewers there is like standard thing - we don't get to date ANYONE, so we shouldn't care anyway
@@ansof3112 if women think we’re ugly, then we’re ugly. Thinking we’re average but that it’s women fault for thinking about us as being ugly is cope
1:28: You have already fallen into the trap of selection bias yourself. Men can't judge female attractiveness based on online dating. Why? Most women use heavy makeup as well as filters to alter their appearance. Additionally 1:57 aka your distribution of purity is highly unlikely. Hot people have an abundance of options and as such there is a high likleyhood that their purity is lower than an averages person.
Exactly! Thank you. People in general look different in photos. Even men. I can take some selfies with my phone with no filters and no strategic lighting, and I look UNRECOGNIZABLE. I know people who look far worse or far better in photos.
In addition to that, the whole rating system is flawed. A woman who is dolled up can be a 7: makeup, hair, earrings, push-up bra, heels. Then you see her in her everyday life and she is a 5. Women fluctuate a lot
@@tarcisiasiniscalchi6641 Unfortunately, we live in a world in which the pretense of false realities has become the norm.
I was fat my entire teenager years wich means I never dated anybody. But I had this mindset that I will find the right women when I'm older, like why would anybody want to marry before 30? At 23 I realized I wasted my best years. And I still fat, so you can expect that I will probally not get anybody before 25. Yeah, I think it's best to give up on my dream of becoming a father.
ta jovem ainda mano da pra voce fazer dieta treinar e estar ainda decente antes dos 30
I would love an additional feature of this visualization that includes a time dimension to this graph as a representation of how the female dating pool changes over time. That'll be perfect tbh.
Wheat, can you do another video giving some blackpill dating/looks maxing advice?
I can give you some: improvement is a cope and the things you're missing out on while improving that, even if you're successful in your goal, they will never be obtainable again and it will eat you up knowing your improvement prize was enjoying for many years already. It never even began.
I'm south Asian although a westernised national, so I don't have the embarrassing accent or cultural traits etc. And I'm 6"2. BUT I've been bald since I was about 31/32, now I'll be 39 years old next month. I've tested around 7 photos on photofeeler and I've got scores between 6.4 - 8.8. So maybe I'm not so bad and this is purely my face (height is not included in the test). Own my place, not an amazing but steady income for the moment, sporty and in decent shape, travelled to almost 60 countries, speak 2-3 languages.
Yet despite all that I've been single now for 7 years and still have never had full intercourse despite having had a few relationships when I was younger. My last relationship which was only a few months I had to endure psychological abuse and in the previous one, significant gaslighting. I am worried whether a relationship will ever be a reality. I've always wondered why I cannot get the attention of decent white looking girls i.e. Stacey lites and instead end up going on dates with sub 5s who I'm not that attracted to. I'm happy with girls my own race too but as we know they tend to lean towards white men. Now I know it's because I'm a bald currycel.
I've been on dating apps and websites for many years, try and go out to socials and singles events and do still manage to get dates here and there but it's so difficult it seems to find that attraction and connection. Every time it seems the women that express interest in me, I'm not keen on (sub 5s) and vice versa, all the girls I like aren't into me.
The only time I find myself with a girlfriend is in my dreams, literally. For a moment overnight I would occasionally experience that feeling of being connected to a woman in that way, only to wake up and realise what is a reality for millions of everyday people is still only a mere fantasy for me. Infact last night I had a dream where I cycled through 5/6 different women. No intimacy as such but I experienced that connection and physical attraction with a woman, which is exactly what has been lacking.
I feel you bro, just have Amma find you a girl.
@@vrsinghe At this point, I would have settled for that, some kind of arranged marriage. Better than being on your own but as I said and as you probably know yourself being a currycel, South Asian women prefer white men and if you're Asian you have to be high value, be a doctor, plenty of income etc. Furthermore, I'm Christian so that makes it even more challenging as most Asian women are not church going Christians.
i am also south asian (born raised in india till age 10), i am 46 now but short 5'9". when i travel to mumbai, i am a god. i enjoy the girls there as an NRI. follow my lead.
@@defaultworkouts 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah… Hong Kong girls are a completely different breed
Damn. Thank you for putting the survivorship bias in perspective for me
I have like 20 friends and family who got into serious relationships at a young age and it only went well for 1 of them... more or less.
Interesting content.
My only concern is that looks should be somewhat relative to the guy's SMV. This indicates that if a guy is a average then a gal in the same range is better match and much more likely. This changes the skew of the distribution an adds nuance. Sure it is possible for a 5 guy to get an 8 gal, but it is not all that likely.
An average guy getting a high-purity average gal is a good outcome.
I've been saying this forever. Alot of average guys problem. Is they are Punching above their weight. They want the women chads get. And it's not going to happen unless they buy them with money. Or the girl is on RARE occasion pissed with chads. So settles for a more average guy. knowing he is likely to worship her.
These days even average girls think they are 10's thanks to social media. I've been shocked at the elitist behavior of so-called average women.
“Single ladies having low standards”, no freaking way, for me they don’t exist.
They have nothing but extremely high standards. If they actually had low standards, I wouldn’t still be single.
There are some that have low standards. Not everybody is the same person.
I really like your videos, both the atmosphere and the information they contain. You're smart and express yourself well. The only criticism I have is about something noticed on other occasions and now I notice it again: Being too young limits some of your conclusions (as it should be, by the way).
A man in his early 20's hardly knows himself (or about women and relationships) to get a long-term partner, even with all that purity. And he probably not have enough money (yes, relationship with quality women implies spending money). Futhermore, western society today plays against relationships in many ways and the chance of a breakup due to boredom and/or curiosity is huge. Not just for the woman, but for the man as well.
A man who still young but more mature and experienced in various layers of life would have a better chance of starting something stable. And that's another misconception of yours: you consider guys in theirs 30's to be some kind of uncles. I thought that too when I was in my 20's... But it's just not true. Anyway, the ideal scenario would be a man in his mid 30's with a woman in her earlys's 20's... Both in their prime. But it's not that way anymore, and because of this and other reasons, long-term relationships are doomed.
What do you mean relationships with high quality women implies spending money?
@@michealdominic7788 In the context I referred to, a quality woman usually has goals like starting a family, traveling, living comfortably in general. And that requires financial support. Even if the bills are split. She can afford to have this kind of goals because, given that she has quality, she has good suitors who can offer this lifestyle... And hypergamy is real.
Im so pissed because i got a "be first" Situation with a woman i really liked and because i didnt keep self improving i lost her. It truly sucks because the dsting market and the quality of whatd offered is scary, and me personally i value purity very much
Wrong. You would have lost her anyway. She was no longer attracted to you. Attraction fades. You’ve been lied to. Assuming she was attracted to you in the first place
Let's be honnest guys, if we have trouble to get a relationship it means it's over, people find love without doing anything, we are suffering for no reason, we should just give up, or go to asia and stay there.
If you give a female an access to a western society or wake up her true self, she will behave the same. Asia is pure cope, all we can eventually do is to get a hooker, which is also empty as hell.
It's over.
Take one year to looksmax, charismaxx, moneymaxx, and if after all that it still doesn't work out, then it is truly over
Finished degree, starting well paying job just now, had 3 surgeries this year, lost 37kg last year. It's still over with my genetics.
@@michamazur2179 At least you tried :)
@@michamazur2179 you tried your best and still failed. You have my respect 🫡
I was frustrated never bitter, I understood attraction. When I balded at 19 entering college, I knew my love life was ended already prematurely. I've bought 🐈 every since and I'm 37 almost38 now
brutal boyo i would have committed sudoku if i knew my love life would end at 19 tbh
@@IdkIdk-gw3qo that's bc you a bummo you don't understand how to husso your musso
Invest in hairplugs, wig or surgery. Still fixable compared to height
@@harsh3948 I'm to long blackpilled and at peace.
Of course you'd be at peace. You don't have a woman nagging you
This is the best video you have done to-date
Now there MUST be producing at Universities the PURITY data.
For sure there must be fun to gather and analyse.
Best decision of my life... giving a sh*** about all those stats and women in general. Happiest i've ever been.
Nevertheless great analytical content as always wheat!
Two things:
First is that attractive women are less likely to have lower standards so it isn’t really an evenly spread standards variable. Btw by low standards, you mean the more shy, trad-ish, not beauty obsessed, unsocial ones (they don’t put themselves out there (on the market)).
Two is that most of just be first is really just get her before Chad interacts with her/shows interest. And by the way, they still have look standards. A stacy is not giving a normie a chance… no way.Especially without money (or height).
What’s sad is that normies still receive positive attention/seggsual attraction, but it’s just that vvomen as they grow older think that the grass is greener and are just this unsatisfied with normies (sometimes even if he compensate).
The only time Wheat Waffles lied was when he claimed he had an IQ of only 120.
Are you saying that's not his iq level
@@Halo4beatsB02 Yes
120 is actually a high result; definitely above average
@@herewego2086 For sure, 120 would be like top 15th percentile, but based on his reasoning skills, unique video style, and relatively young age, I would estimate his IQ to be in the 130 range.
@@zeonive1173 it is. A while ago he posted the results of his Mensa test. It’s measured at 133.
6 minutes in, this is already so fxxxing informative and thought provoking. Nice work mi Lord Wheats
These guys: women have such high standards!!!
Also these guys: I want a really hot woman who is also really pure, so she shouldn't be noticed by other man before me
Women judge men for things he cant control: Height, D-size, Balding
Men judge women for things she can control: Body Count, Children Count, Weight, How She treats her family members
This girl probably: "B-but men have equally high standards ;-;"
@@Naz1Killer I wouldn't talk like an anime loving virgin lol
@@MonicaCarden I'd rather have a hobby than be a narcissistic modern day b-word who'll be a "cat mom" by 40
@@MonicaCarden you think you are 10
Forget looksmatch, men are struggling to dumpster dive these days in the west💀
Good tips but the problem remains that there aren't enough high quality women to go around.
I find it funny that religious guys who get married at 22 get made fun of, and yet that was the best strategy all along
Also religious people (avoiding extremist crazy groups) tend to have morals and ethics, that includes women believe it or not.
Guess the word of God works after all
The "just be first theory" is really accurate from my experiences. Virgin (especially) girls are just alot easier to talk to and get something going.
The problem is that after you're 25 years old approaching virgin girls becomes creepy af and these girls are usually not mature enough to build a proper relationship with.
Imagine being like 26, good stable income, having a car, planning on buying a house, etc and you start dating a fresh out of highschool virgin 18 year old who doesn't know shit about life, doesn't have a job most likely, just wants to waste money on vacations and parties, etc.
It's going to be an hassle relate to her, I guarantee you. That's why age gap is lowkey one of the biggest problems in the dating market.
Nowadays if the age gap between partners is over 5 years, it's a relationship doomed to fail imho
Honestly don’t think there are so many high quality good looking women around
Great content, Wheat. Sound logic!
So. I'm 31, never had a relationship despite trying my whole adult life. I've been in and out in terms of fitness (would spend a lot of time getting fit, getting frustrated because it changed nothing, abandoning it and gaining weight, getting fit again because I've gained too much weight, getting neglectful because being fit didn't matter, rince and repeat). I'm not an investor or some shit, and will never become, but I'm in a pretty good place financially (especially by local standards), and self-employed. I'm also not looking to date a bitter divorcee with children. Since I never had a relationship, I'm not looking to jump into the hard part of relationship while skipping the easy part. Is there no hope for me? Have I lost my chance?
… well, if you stay focused, observing, on alert, you’ll be dodging quite a number of more bullets. this doesn’t truly happify only but not suffering from toothache | headache | … shouldn’t be undervalued either.
@@VaronPlateando so, no chances for happiness, just chances for less misery?
It's hard but not impossible, but your chances increases/decreases depending of:
You spend time around women?
Women find you attractive?
What hobbies do you have?
@@MrJuan_Vzla Lmao, if women found me attractive we wouldn't be talking right now.
@@ABIGPLAN Oh well, good luck next life.
"If a young man manages to get a relationship with a high quality woman, why would he even think of letting her go? She's loyal. She's kind. There'd never be a reason for him to break up."
That statement, and most of this entire argument, seems to ignore the fact that women often leave men. More divorces are initiated by women, right? And I'd wager a significant portion of those single mums in their thirties are ones who left guys who were "just first."
So, getting in before a woman realizes her worth isn't that great of a strategy, because eventually she'll realize her value, whether she's with you or not. She'll put two and two together, even if she "committed" to you first or even married you.
I'm not a bloke, so it doesn't really impact me, but I'm wondering what Wheat's "solution" for that might be.
There is no solution and that is the issue most men are meant to be left to rot while the top thrive
… I guess the quote rather was suggesting a definition of what a HWF would be behaving like, being one such indeed. just to recognise a unicorn in the unlikely case it were occurring. highly academic point made, though.
Yes. Good point. One of my friends, he was with his wife since high school. They eventualky got married and had 2 kids. So, they been together for 20+ years. However, younger men were checking her out/flirting because she had big boobs. She got tempted and eventually fooled around multiple times. She had 2 guys in bed with her at the same time.
Thats a whole other can of worms, but the solution is....
I love how woman rationalize their shitty behavior by leaving the partner that have supported them as "her finding her value".
why look for relationship IF they dont find you attractive. if they accept netflik n chill THEY cant resist and being attractive your not just a beta provider.
Is English your first language bro?
@@michealdominic7788 sí
bruh. this guy is actually good at making powerpoint presentations
The day becomes better when wheat waffles posts long videos. Keep doing long videos, we love them.
Lol agreed
It's not only long but also very difficult subject . It feels like reading nashem taleb book . 😆
@@ansof3112 makes you want to focus. I like that.
Your gifted dude. The way you put together visuals is another level.