Nikon Z6 III vs Sony A7S III For Wildlife (600mm vs 200-600mm)
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Wildlife battle! Nikon Z6iii vs Sony A7SIII. Nikkor 600mm f6.3 S lens vs 200-600mm f5.6-6.3 G lens for Sony. Both have 4k 120p, but Nikon is aps-c crop, but also 12 bit raw vs 10 bit regular. Nikon does 6k 60p raw which Sony can't do. And both do HD 240p, but Nikon has a small 5% crop. I obviously don't have the Nikon 180-600mm or I would have compared those, I'm just comparing what I have. Stabilization, autofocus, prime vs zoom. Sony holds up surprisingly well, but the Nikon is way more fun to use in the field.
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Linear focusing on the Z6 III: Custom Settings > f Controls > f10 Focus ring rotation range
Oh lol. Thank you! Why would they default to non linear?!
@@cameraconspiraciesIt’s their stills heritage showing!
@@cameraconspiracies it's more impressive in the show room to snap to a focus point quickly. Marketing trumps out of the box usability sometimes unfortunately.
@@cameraconspiracies np, Steve Perry's setup guides has been helpful
There you go! Thanks.
I couldn’t imagine the difficulty in trying to compare two telephoto lenses/ cameras I appreciate your efforts. What’s worse than having a raccoon takes off is having it run toward you.
"It's Canadian money, it still counts" 😆
Does it?
It's literally plastic and transparent! How could something called a Looney be real money?
@@WIDGI I mean, Monopoly money counts in Monopoly too, so…
Canadian Tire money holds more value than actual Canadian currency 😂
Not even joking😅
@@ItsWillLee I love Canadian tire, they fixed my tire when we drove up there on vacation.
I don't watch your channel for wildlife but hot damn, I'm 9 more wildlife videos away from selling my house and buying a prime zoom lens.
I will also be buying prime zoom lenses.
Prime zoom lens?😂😂
@@Stan_the_Belgian Optimus Prime zoom lens. 😂😂😂
Haha, that made me smile. I’ve been eying a long,fast prime for a while now, but they are pricey. Might settle for the 600 6.3 at the end, still expensive, but it’s all relative.
If he ever tries the Nikon Z 800mm toneh he will be in heaven!
When it comes to comparing zoom lenses to prime lenses, it's important to consider that they are not on an equal playing field. Despite the optical mismatch, Kasey's video does a great job of highlighting the noticeable differences, making it educational for newcomers to photography. In conclusion, great job, Kasey.
Nikon looked great. Mystery raccoon shot was hilarious.
That Sony bokeh looks like someone vomited on a wall lol
"Which are you gonna firmware up first?! I'll buy it!" 😂
Get a macro extension tube for that lens. 12mm, it's tiny. You'll be able to focus on that damsel fly's eyeball. (in 4k crop). Seriously. Great video BTW.
Someone else may have already answered this, but Nikon Z6iii does have linear focus. Look at custom setting f10. It's a different setting on other cameras (f9 on the Z8). Not sure about the Zf. I’m not certain it works with all lenses. You can set the angle.
Hi Casey when using the AF box you can hand over to 3d tracking so that the AF follows the bird all over the frame.
Your "father and son" Red-winged Blackbird segment was actually mother and youngster.
Always enjoy these. Keep it up!
Nikon HD 240p completely outclasses the Sony! The father-son shot was especially brutal for the Sony. Kasey, you struck gold with the Nikon. If this is what you can achieve "just for fun", without even fully knowing the camera, the sky's the limit!
Yet still lacking in autofocus 😂. Keep on dreaming!
@alphaandomega2709 you gotta let that go now. Seems like that's the only argument Sony fanboys have against Nikon.
@@alphaandomega2709 And you still troll every z6iii video. One would think you would be out enjoying your superior camera, instead of pissing on peeps just trying to have fun? Shame on you.
Anyway, I suggest you watch the z6iii review on Digitalcameraworld, to school yourself a bit on this particular camera’s DR, AF and tracking capabilities. Hopefully you will talk less poop then after having a better understanding, but you’re sadly just one of those trolls who has never tested camera a/b/c but indeed considered yourself an authoritative voice.
Happy for you man, and looking forward to your nature adventures.
I would never get tired of watching you, bro. Thanks for the video
That is a sweet lens and camera. Nikon primes have always been awesome for wildlife photography.
11:00 the cinema was ours
One reason the Nikon is sharper is the raw format that doesn't have any noise reduction. Noise reduction soften the image. The lens doesn't make that much of a difference, perhaps it doesn't make any difference. Center sharpness between these two lenses are almost identical.
You can fix the Sony muted greens by just moving the white balance adjustments into green and blue, each camera is a bit different so you just have to point it at a sky and some green to see what you think is the best range.
All sensors these days pretty much shoot the same darn colours, its just the colour profiles backed into the camera that are different from each manufacturer, but the white balance adjustment is the best way to correct the in-camera colours as much as possible, also gets rid of that yellow hue on the skin by going more green-blue on the hue adjustment.
Thanks for teaching me about camera technology. I really enjoy the commentary.
Ant v Butterfly was pretty cool tbh.
Always happy times when I see a new video by this guy👍🏽👍🏽❤️
the frog! I knew it, has the better Image!
my mom loves this she's 81!
Excellent and necessary video, but why are we pretending that the Sigma 500 5.6 E mount doesn't exist? Its performance against the 600 6.3 is the biggest question in Camera. And if the Sigma can't compete in straight performance, how does it do in performance:value ratio?
The Nikon looks really good except for not focusing close. That's the advantage I gave to the Nikon 180-600, if you remember. Yes, crop mode works for video (not so much for photography). But if light weight is more important, the 600 wins.
Edit: I never knew until watching your footage that robins start their running by hopping first. 70 years old and still learning new things!
Your side by side comparisons are impressive. That's tough to get. After 40+ years as a professional photographer and only about 1.5 years with video (For CZcams), I don't hardly see how you get it so nice looking! I've also never done wildlife, I spent 40 year doings weddings, models, and corporate events. I have always been Canon except for the Mamiya 645 days in the 90's and early 2000's. You also got me loving the Lumix G9, that is an amazing little camera. Keep up the good work!
the comparison with the racon was very interesting. 😁👍
11:25 the Nikon looks so much sharper here, damn.
That lens definitely is a lot sharper, it rivals the big 400/600 primes and almost matches the 800 PF with the 1.4 TC, but I was kind of afraid that the HD 240 is going to be crap, looks pretty decent though. They recently added the feature to cycle through area modes with one button, would be cool if they'd do the same for video codecs.
I have them both, the Z 600 PF and the Z 800 PF. The Z 800 PF wide open (f6.3) is sharper than the Z 600 PF with 1.4x TC wide open (f9), and, obviously, its a whole stop faster. The Z 800 PF at f7.1 is considerably sharper vs the Z 600 PF with 1.4xTC at f9, while still being 2/3 stop faster. Even sharper still at f8, while still being 1/3 stop faster. The Z 600 PF with or without TC's get's less sharp when you stop it down. The Z 800 PF also maintains its resolving power at considerably further distances vs the Z 600 PF with or without TC's. I also find that the Z 800 PF is a little bit more contrasty and the colors tend to punch a little bit more, but that could just be my particular copies. I am not saying don't buy the Z 600 PF or to get the Z 800 PF over the Z 600 PF. Both of these lenses are exceptional. IMHO, the Z 800 PF is the very best handholdable 800mm+ lens currently available, with or without TC's, of any system. The Z 600 PF is not "almost" that.
@@KungPowEnterFist I myself got the 800 PF, and I was referring to the lab tests from photography life, which show that the 600 PF is sharper wide open and not far behind in terms of sharpness when used with the 1.4 TC.
Of course the 800 PF still has a slight edge in sharpness and is faster, I was just trying to point out what a ridiculously sharp lens the 600 PF is.
@@cy9nvs Looking beyond sharpness - and, make no mistake, the Z 800 PF is sharper than the Z 600 PF with the 1.4x TC - the Z 800 PF overall just produces better images. Being only 1/3 of a stop away from the golden focal length to aperture ratio is a huge advantage over the Z 600 PF which is 1-1/3 stop away when it comes to the 3D pop/subject isolation/magic fairy dust.
@@KungPowEnterFist Appreciate your insight, as I am at the point to decide between the 600 and 800 PF’s. Thank you.
@@bsc001 If you can only buy one, the biggest reason to get the Z 600 PF over the Z 800 PF is the much smaller size and weight. It's much easier to hike with, will fit inside a standard camera bag, and will even fit in your typical hotel safe. If travel is on your mind, no brainer to go with the Z 600 PF. However, one should not ignore the F 500 PF, and the fact that you can get one in 10/10 condition with a 6 month warranty for about half the price of a Z 600 PF. They are virtually identical optically, similar VR, similar AF speed. I have noticed the F 500 PF AF does tend to get stuck on foregrounds on a Z8/Z9 a lot more than the Z 600 PF, but it is not a dealbreaker. My wife actually prefers the F 500 PF over the Z 600 PF, because its easier to track moving subjects with the wider view.
God always favors Nikon! I really enjoy the colour science of the Nikon. Great videos!
Now you can travel into the artic and film the wildlife.
Waiting on his Polar Bear expedition in Manitoba, the first encounter might be all we get though 😅
@@ItsWillLee great content ahead! 🐻
oh oh Z6iii just looks like a G9ii image dynamic range and noise
First system with bigfoot eye detect, I'll buy in.
QQQ Is the Lfn2 button on the lens programmable for what Kasey needs? I don't have either so I can't tell, but a lot of Nikon programmable buttons have a mode where pressing the button while turning the command dial changes a shooting mode.
Great video as usual. Just wanted to point out that was a Mother/Daughter pair of red-winged blackbirds.
sony makes a lot of stuff green, except for greens .. greens are yellow
In every case I favoured the camera that was in focus.🤔
Best cold opens.
The toneh is much better on the Nikon, the Sony just felt off, not as smooth and busy.
I think a nice big prime may be in my future.
Wow, you witnessed Rocket the raccoon from Guardians of the Galaxy 100,000 extra thumbs up.
Maybe Sony is gonna open the vault of alien tech again soon. Or maybe this is it.
Nice video ❤. Can you help in choosing between z6iii or z8 for all types of photography serious hobbyist. Don’t want to spend time for denoising raw photos. I used Z7ii but too much noise in raw photos. So please suggest mainly basis of noise or low light photography. Thank you
i’m debating on the nikon 400mm, 600mm or that sigma 500mm
How about a used like new 500PF for $1500
Perhaps there’s a TC-1.4 in your future? 840mm at a relatively small additional cost that comes very close to the sharpness of the 800mm f/6.3 prime might be the way to go. Yeah, you lose a stop but you keep the weight and expense way down.
i am not sure i understand why is a7siii still better for talking head ? Zebras ?
My d800 can switch crop modes with the function button and the backside dial look in the costom settings Section for the option
Isn't it ni-kon? instead nai-kaaan?
US vs rest of the world pronunciation. Both are fine.
0:12 that was so funny XD! and OG!
Try assigning the function buttons or rings to switch video modes on the Nikon 600pf lens. Love using mine due to great sharpness, size and weight.
I'm a Canon fan through and through, but Nikon looks great for sure.
😂 nice comparison you had me lmao a couple times. Good stuff. New sub
Damsels :) Also, great video as usual, Kasey!
14:10 Maybe they should have an Auto on the left dial for you to switch it in camera with the custom mode
The image quality in video between these 2 systems is not different only because of the glass you are using. You forget that the more megapixels in the nikon sensor will give you better (sharper) video when it downsamples from 6k when sony is only using 12mp at best. That nikon setup looks sick.
Nikon doesn't down sample in all modes. 4k 120p and HD 240p are likely not down sampled at all.
Sigma has 500mm f5.6 that is highly regarded. Could be a decent matchup.
So now there are two perfect cameras in the world: the Nikon Z6 III and the Sony ASIII
I don’t even shoot wildlife but you are definitely making me consider some sort of telephoto for my Z6iii now 😂
Something else to mention here, man dosent it look good a Nikon beating a Sony 🤙🏼🤪 💛
this is a comparison!
15:07 that cottonwood that's flying was done in early June in New England. Interesting how the seasons are so different despite the close proximity.
With that amount of money on gear, people would have rendered 3d animals that fetch a pretty dollar without needing validation.
BTW I am looking for the Z28-400 for discreet travel wildlife trip, don't see much reviews yet?
I have looked at it to, but a much better solution, of course much bigger cash-splash, would be the 24-120 f4 as a general travel Lense, and the 100-400 4.5-5.6 as the telephoto zoom. Significantly better than the 28-400.
Question though.
So I did trade my Zf for the Z6iii (for the ergonomics), but I see so many people complaining about its DR. I’m no professional, but I do take to landscape shooting, a lot more than wildlife.
What are your thoughts on the DR, is it that noticeably bad? I do print up 36x24’s, but that was on my old Olympus camera and the landscapes looked ok.
And I can’t afford a Z8, so can the Z6iii be a good all rounder?
Looks like you found your dedicated wildlife camera and Sony will be your everyday shooter. Good job!
I wish I could have bought your 200-600
I think the only time you might miss sony is when shooting in dark.
Love the video, new subscriber ❤❤❤
The linear focus feature can be found in the Controls section of compatible Z series mirrorless cameras’ custom settings menu under “f9: Focus ring rotation range.”
(f10 on Z6iii)
By default, this option will be set to “Non-linear,” but you can choose between any of the 12 preset degrees of rotation. If “f9: Focus ring rotation range” is grayed out in your camera’s menu, your lens may not be compatible with the linear focus function or may require a firmware update.
In Nikon Z series mirrorless cameras and lenses that support the linear focus function*, you can choose from any one of 12 possible rotation increments, from 90 degrees, for rapid movement between points, to 720 degrees, for scenes that require slower, precise focus racking.
Use a tripod and turn the dials. I guess Nikon don't expect you to turn the dials every time.
What ISO were you shooting the Nikon at mainly?
Auto.
I fear the day poor Kasey gets robbed blind on the streets of Toronto.
Haha, I know eh 😅
If it was 15-20 years ago, he would've left Tommy Thompson park in his underwear,, at most 😅.
They'd take your clothes too..now go walk out of a park and start explaining lol 😅
Monkey strength can't stop bullets, stay safe Kasey ❤
Where's my fujifilm 500 prime?
blessings and love
Maybe try the Sigma 500mm T5.6? Than we know that it's sharp but the stabilisation sucks...
Nicky was very impressive!
First. Yeah, me again. I'm the first person in the world to receive CC. This makes me happy.
The Nikon is sharper by far, and in a nice way rather than the gross oversharpened digital way. Seems to have more 3D pop too, except maybe in low light. Even in the HD 240p side by side comparison, the Nikon has it. I forget if the Nikon is still doing raw in that mode? Or if the Nikon's HD 240 is being downsampled from 5k or 6k? Or maybe the prime is sharper? But sharper is much better when we're examining tiny details on feathers that are hard to see so clearly for so long irl.
HD 240p can't do raw. Not sure if it's downsampled but it looks better than A7S III.
Jus one thing
PRICE
I take my Nikon and a lens
Casey, this is a bad video. You are making me want to buy a Nikon 600PF and z8 even though I have A1+200-600. Can you compare 200-600 on A1(Camera Canada will lend you one) vs 600PF or did you already sell the 200-600? I tried Sony 300 F2.8 with x2.0, its lighter than 200-600 and sharper with more contrast, does that beat the 600PF?
Not that i own a Z6 but i do own a D610 yeah old, but im sure the Nikon will have a spare button you could program to enable the functions you need so bad.
You have to get Sigma 500mm F5.6 for Sony now :D. And compare it with A7SIII to Nikki boy :D
No contest here. The Nikon setup is far superior. The biggest difference between the Z 600 PF and Z 800 PF - other than the obvious 200mm focal length difference - is that the Z 800 PF gets way more 3D pop and subject isolation.
genius stuff my friend...
Do you think they should've replaced the little screen with the dial or a button? I think that would've been better maybe.
No, imho, not. It is very handy having that top display on these bodies. A lot of peeps try to keep the viewfinder and main display clutter-free, as such, it is good to have this small info display on the top. It does have all the important settings there.
I've got a Z8 and 180-600mm... As good as the zoom is it isn't as good as your 600 prime.
If you make friends, you can have your friends shoot the other camera.
Wow, did NOT see that coming…
great work thank you
Do you guys think the Canon RF100-400mm F5.6-8 $650 would make good self-videos/portraits of me on the beach @400mm with a big sunrise or moonrise in the background? Canon R8.
That’s a butterfly, dude.
now try the canon r3
14:30 it's called menu banks on the z8/z9, probbably wont come to the z6 because its User Profile BS
Yeah, the MenuBanks are available on those Nikon bodies that doesn’t have the U1/2/3 selector switch. T’was the same on the DSLR bodies.
Please share your render/upload secrets - CZcams crushes my SonyA7s3 footage quality.
Cheers.
Fuji XT5 HD 240P is king 😢❤
3D printed switch for lefthand
carbonfiber lens ring trigger?
no it has to be right hand no doubt
Sony A7S4 looking forward 😊
go buy red dot scope and mount it on camera, game changer for wildlife
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The noise was very obvious in every Nikon shot
Just a note, Nikon doesn’t do noise-correction in-camera, like some others do. You can adjust in post. This is partially the reason why Nikon SOOC will almost always look sharper as well.
@@bsc001 yep. To me less noise is sharper.
@@Igyartol2 We have probably not watched the same video. All good, image-quality is in the eye of the beholder.
It’s great to have options, use whatever system works best for you.
No contest, Canadian money or not the Nikon rig was superior in practically every situation...Sorry Kasey.
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