Be like Water | The Martial Arts of Cowboy Bebop
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Today we take a look at Spike Spiegel and his martial arts - always attributed as Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. But is it real JKD? That's what we're looking at in today's video.
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I started learning martial arts once I found out that Spike's style was apparently one you could learn (at the time I knew nothing about martial arts, let alone JKD).
That's awesome!!
In 2001 I turned 11 and my step dad let me watch Enter The Dragon and Akira, the later unnerved me for a while to where I didn't want to watch anything serious with shooting, I was shooting air rifles a lot and it hit me hard and stayed with me. Watched a lot of Robotech for a year or two after while I collected the dvds. Then my taste got trash for a while so I missed out on a lot of Adult Swim.
I have trash taste too. But this classic kinda grounds me.
@@metrolinamartialarts thank you, I always feel like I have trash taste that just happens to line up with some of the classics
@@ASMCourtney that's how it goes lol
@@gharm9129 bruh they were 11 watching akira
@@gharm9129 cultural differences apply bud. you can't use your ethnocentric lens as an example for other cultures
Cowboy bebop was such a great show when I was a kid I loved that you’ve covered this
Thanks so much for watching!
Man I love Spike and the whole show in general. I think most of the "JKD" with Spike is philosophical and can be seen in his "flow" and stance. There's also some hand-trapping in there for good measure. It's kind of a "theatrical" version of JKD though with the emphasis on flashy kicks, clearly inspired by Lee's movies, and ton is just Spike stunting on folks for his (and our) benefit, haha.
Really enjoy the pop culture analysis videos. Love to see this series expand to fighting games, there are a ton of characters that embody specific styles and personalities. Tekken might be a great place to start where the motion capture is often really great, with fighters that cover everything from kyokushin and thaiboxing to good ol' JKD. (My favorite character is Lee Chaolan - got them kicks yo!)
Yeah I'm excited to keep making these!
Super fun video, great editing incorporating the (iconic) music. Honestly, I always saw Spike as a kickboxer who loved to showboat with that Bruce Lee swagger in his ready stance. The kicks always looked TKD to me with boxing hands. Hearing your breakdown is points I hadn't thought of.
Thanks for watching!
The exagerrated swagger of an old fashioned cowboy
I felt like they mixed a bit of early jackie chan into his style. It's very project A and police story like.
The creator said that spikes kicks come from Savate French kickboxing
Honestly, I've always thought of Spike's fighting style as a combination of Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido (I've seen him use a few joint-locks) and Boxing. The philosophy he holds is definitely JKD inspired, but the arts themselves appear to be the ones I mentioned above.
Makes sense
As far as the authenticity of Spike's martial arts, I interpret a whole lot of what he does in fights as in-universe showboating. Practicing a martial art which emphasizes efficiency doesn't mean you can't show off.
When it comes to the lead straight in particular, I definitely don't think that's a necessary feature of authentic jeet kune do. On the contrary, I think many practitioners may be inappropriately attached to it as a signature element of jeet kune do, and insist on making it part of their own arsenals because it worked for Bruce, even if it doesn't work nearly so well for them. Dan Inosanto has said that Bruce could shell-shock people with his lead straight, and that he, and the majority of his students, simply can't do that. Some of Bruce's own direct students didn't use his right-hand lead, because they didn't get the same kind of oomph out of it and just didn't find it an effective tradeoff. And is copying something that worked for someone else, even if it doesn't work for you, really jeet kune do?
I think you're right for some of the fights - he's definitely showing off. But in his more serious fights, he tones it down a bit but still does a lot of showboat-esque stuff.
As far as the straight lead - I think the concepts branch mainly went away from it whereas the origin branch kept it more due to the delivery systems and footwork they employ. Regardless, if you're gonna show JKD in media, it should include the straight lead.
JKD is more of a philosophy than a codified system of specific techniques. "Incorporate what's useful, discard what is unnecessary". The "Be Water" statement follows this, about "adapting to the shape of vessel", or adapting to the immediate situation. There's a lot of mid-high kicks from Spike, which is fairly unusual in Southern Chinese/Hakka arts. High kicks are seen more often in Northern Chinese styles, but the way Spike combines them is very TKD. Good point about the elbow; maybe some Muay Thai influence? We know he's good with a blade, and blade-throwing, FMA background?
I think Spike's a hybrid guy, whose probably picked up fighting arts both formally, informally and through direct experience.
I would say that this falls in line with the JKD philosophy; nothing says you can't look cool while doing it! :)
Fun Video, Space Cowboy!
LOVE THIS , bebop is such a great anime and is most defiantly a take on JKD a love letter or sorts.
Thanks so much for watching
I joined an Jeet Kune Do class earlier this month and it’s been the best decision I ever I did! JKD is an unique martial art. Cowboy Bebop is an anime masterpiece!
It's a great combo!
I reckon it would be interesting if you made a video looking at and breaking down Kamen Rider Meteor from Kamen Rider Fourze, he's a character who uses a very Jeet Kune Do inspired fighting style
Oooooh interesting 🤔 I'll look at them!
Great video and what a great show! This definitely inspired me when I was younger. Now I need to rewatch the series! 👊
It was so much fun to rewatch for this!
I was so glad to see a video talking about Jeet Kune Do. I've been practicing in it for about 7-8 months and it feels like no one talks about Jeet Kune Do. Great video
Yeah no one big talks about for various reasons, but it's a good art
I love that he smokes! He's a man with nothing left to lose! it fits well with the space cowboy theme! 🤠 🚬 ✨️
Fair enough lol 😆
Maybe Spike is like me and started as karateka before doing Jeet Kune Do. Just a thought 🤔
Definitely a possibility!
Great content as always!
Love the editing and Anime Ed looks almost as badass as the real one 😁
Thanks! Lol 😂
The very first fight spike vs asimov always reminded me more of the style i train in ITF taekwondo keeping distance throwing what we call turning kicks keeping distance and using speed and agility to stay at a distance to be at a advantage with are kicks the reverse turning kick or as you call it hook kick is one of are hardest kicks.
That's cool!!
I was actually waiting for you to cover this character and great deep dive.
Thanks so much for watching
Aight screw it I'm starting Wing Chun as soon as my schedule clears a bit.
You totally should.
I have waited for this for soooo long, ever since your first naruto video i wanted to hear you talk about spike
And here we are! What do you think?
Gravity could be lower (depending on Cowboy Bebop sci-fi tech levels) on the terraformed colonies.
Very true
You know "be like water" comes from Wing Chun. Intercepting fist is just a bong sao...words of Dan Inosanto
Yeah Guro Dan is the man! But it's more than just bong sao. It's jeet sao. Or jeet tek.
I'm sure Bruce got the Be Water philosophy and application thereof in the Martial Arts from Wing Chun
Love these breakdowns! Also digging your anime avatar.
Thanks! He'll definitely be back in the future
This is going to be a great series. Thank you for this
Thank you so much for watching!
I really liked this this style is video! Please do more breakdowns like this in the future.
I definitely intend to! Thanks so much for watching
Oh god def jam fight for New York takes me back .
Such a great game
This is some good insight to the combat of the character. Good technical terms I like this channel now covered one of my favorite anime characters
Thanks so much for watching
@@metrolinamartialarts 👍🏼👍🏼💯💯
Great video and great history lesson 👌👌
Thank you for watching!!
Dont forget spike has a few kicks from french boxing in there.
His Savate kicks were on point
@@metrolinamartialarts yea I tried a few and they transition into each other well.
There is a lot of personality is in how spike fights.... My guess is he just "doesn't like" trapping, probably because he wasn't the best student and you can't count on athleticism alone for trapping....
idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's probably right. Hard to say
Anime Ed is yoked.
Lol he is
Lol I want that song . I'll rock it all day
bro thank you we needed a video of spike bro
Absolutely!! Thank you for watching
@@metrolinamartialarts omg
@@metrolinamartialarts im trying to get into jeet kune do in any way can you help me get started
You should do samurai Champloo next
Great idea!!
Bro I’m about watch cowboy bebop again because of this
It's such a good show.
@@metrolinamartialarts I know.. I might die of nostalgia
Even though it’s such a chaotic fighting style, I was wondering could an analysis be done on Mugen from Samurai Champloo? As you could argue in a lot of ways his fighting style is the antithesis to JKD
You should do a review on gearless joe and how he evolved into no mad from megaloboxing
These videos are quality 👌 👏 🙌
Thank you!!! That's a great idea
Nice video bro
Thank you!
Got a suggestion for another anime fight style breakdown Shinobu Sensui from Yu Yu Hakusho. In the anime they call it the "ultimate fighting style combining all known martial arts" or something like that but It seems like JKD hand traps mixed in with the most physics defying taekwondo. You should check it out.
Oooh I'll check that out!!
Wow I like this style bro
More videos like this planned!
I always felt that Spike was mixing JKD with Taido. I'm sure you've seen it but here's Jesse's video on it! czcams.com/video/pjZMrib4agU/video.html&ab_channel=JesseEnkamp
Oh very cool!
Best anime of all time IMO. I'm bummed this remix of Tank isn't on Spotify.
Yeah I know 😭
i don't mean to be insensitive but i think my question is valid. as a amputee how does that affect your punc? do you risk breaking your metacarpal more? my wing chun punch alignment is supposed to be through the ulna metacarpal flexing the wrist. if you are missing some of these bones does that change the technique or put you at a unique risk ?
It might. I definitely don't hit hard - but my right hand has a stronger bite when I hit.
That was good. I figured seeing all of the kicks would just be something movies do to be fun. Dang I need to watch some MMA fighting, because I have no idea how a guy with punches and kicks defends from a grappler. Seems like all the grappler has to do is get in once and the strikes lose all their advantage.
It's very difficult. Grapplers tend to have a stylistic advantage
You should do Feilong from street fighter next!
Oooh that's a great idea!
Love the content I practice Pencak Silat & jkd concepts and follow your videos much appreciated for the forms video it felt great to brush up on ung moon on my wooden man with your help.
@@zephyr350z glad to hear it!
See you, space cowboy ...
If you think about the time and history it makes sense that Japanese cowboy bebop wouldn't mention anything specific about Chinese Bruce lee. That's why it's hinted but never confirmed
Makes sense
@ 1:53 you gotta give a SPOILER ALERT LOL
Oops
@@metrolinamartialarts it’s all good. Great video btw!
@@mr.bigbrother7112 thank you!!
Real JKD is to be flexible!
Wing Chung and JKD practitioners lack Bruce Lee's imagination that is key for both practices to be useful in real combat!
Absolutely!!!
My all time favorite anime
Such a good one
jkd is not that well known and it makes me sad as it is such a flexible and personal fighting “style”
and cowboy bebop is definitely one of my favorites
I know. The politics of it unfortunately squandered it.
I always thought any kick Spike threw that wasn’t definitive JKD was savate
They are very savate esque
Can you do garou from one punch man?
I can take a look at him!
So this just got recommended to me, and as a cultured viewer I clicked HEY WAIT YOU'RE THE WING CHUN GUEST THAT WAS ON SENSEI SETH HEY HELLO.
Edit: I love Bebop's fight scenes so much.
Ooooh! Welcome 🙏
What do you think about Bujinkan (Ninja Arts)?
Ooooh great question. Stay tuned 😉
@@metrolinamartialarts I'm former Bujinkan. I study the JKD but Bujinkan is considered to be the complete ultimate deadly fighting art. I'm wondering why it goes under the radar by most in the Martial Arts Community which is why I asked.
For the algorithms
You are awesome 👌
Ten minutes in and you haven’t mentioned dominant hand leading
6:30 in the fight with La Fou I mentioned it.
hey i want to learn jeet kune do how can i start
Hey man - see if there's any local school. If not, there's a bunch of video online. Also Ron Balicki has a good online program.
@@metrolinamartialarts ok thanks man
@@metrolinamartialarts hey can i ask this do you think jeet kune do works in a work fight many hate on the style and it makes me feel down about it the haters are eating me up
@@toadmastakillah I think it works for everyone and it's contextual
@@metrolinamartialarts what do you think about people that don't think it works in a real fight
Me sees Naruto episode "ugh weeb shit I guess I'll watch"
Sees cowboy bebop "YOOO LETS GOOO!!!" lol
🤣🤣🤣
JKD has a lot more than boxing , Fencing, and WC lol
According to who?
@@metrolinamartialarts My Sifu 🙂
@@metrolinamartialarts Who is part of the Lee family.
@@metrolinamartialarts Kyokushin, Savate, Silat, TKD, Judo, Kali I could go on lol
@@mattchelseadavis he's wrong.
Faye isn't a gambling addict she's literally just tryna clear her debt tf?
It literally says in several wiki articles she's habitual gambler or pathological gambler. That's another way of saying she's addicted.
@@metrolinamartialarts wiki articles can say whatever they want but that just straight up goes against her character, you'd have to ignore the fact that she's in extreme debt to even come to the conclusion that she's "addicted", that's like saying spike and jet are addicted to bounty hunting because they need to eat. She isn't doing it out of an addiction, she's doing it because she doesn't have a choice in her position, gambling and bounty hunting is the only way she's able to pay what she owes.
@@wxldfl4wer850 ok so what you're saying is the only way to pay her debt back is to gamble. Not bounty hunt, not stocks, not selling a body part, not a normal job - only gambling. So her only means of clearing her debt is gambling. Am I understanding your point correctly?
@@metrolinamartialarts read my comment again please. Kinda seems like you're ignoring a lot of what I'm saying. You're looking at this from the perspective of our reality and not accounting for the fact that she lives in a futuristic world that is completely alien to her, she'd be dead before she could pay off her debt with a normal job let alone selling a body part. And no, you are not understanding my point at all, my point is that she doesn't have a gambling addiction, she's just trying to get by the best way she can in the world that she lives in and that goes for every member of the bebop.
@@wxldfl4wer850 ok
Another Bruce Lee quite? Another Bruce Lee quite…
They're everywhere
@@metrolinamartialarts oh god, everywhere I go, I see them, then there Sun Tzu, Su Tsi, Sat Tzu!
Bruce Lee got that water shit from myamoto musashi. Also,l jeet kune do's kinda gay. Pretty cool that it's not authentic.
Miyamoto Musashi* - he got a lot of his ideas from a lot of people.
@@metrolinamartialarts Yeah, man
@@assholio jeet kune do isn't gay as jiu-jitsu. It's pretty cool despite your thoughts of inauthenticity.