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A bit disappointed you didn't touch on the fact the one rider went to pass the car before the car had even fully left the lane during the change. I thought for sure you'd talk about that. Either way, I love your videos and you've taught me a lot. I'm planning to buy a bike this coming up year!
Is the components in your rescue pack made in the USA or from
China?
The main reason or the most common is too much speed at the entrance of a corner.
Hey Dan! I’m the guy that smacked the mailbox on the cbr , we were riding not even being stupid and I looked at my buddy cause he was having some issues with his bike and I was making sure he’s keeping up at the same time a dog ran into traffic and everyone slammed on their brakes. Worst luck 😂 but I am fine I did get some scrapes and and a mild concussion and I was released from hospital same day. Only thing I personally remember is riding then next thing I know is I’m on the ground talking to police and EMS. You were absolutely correct I was absolutely gone and had no idea what happened. I was wearing a Sedici strada 2.
I’ve made a full recovery and the bike was completely fine other than fairings and I’m back on the road already! Thank you for reviewing it though really informative!
seeing your head hit the mailbox post like that I seriously thought I had just seen someone become quadraplegic or vegetable, I'm glad you are ok, it's crazy that you didn't get hurt any worse.
@@yorkleroy5605 yeah homie I’ve seen people lose their lives from less and that’s why when u see my buddy’s POV he said “ Oh Fu*k “ he thought I for sure broke my neck or something. Thank god though I am okay and didn’t even have any fractured bones
I was praying for you when I first saw the video on moto madness channel. I am so glad you are okay and already back on the road. God bless, my friend. I wish you the best moving forward on that sweet bike 🙏
Good to see my strada 2 purchase was good 💀
Good lord, I'm sure we are all glad that you are OK.
sir i tuned in to watch crashes. but u are seriously educating me into being a better rider.
thank you
these stages you explain in every video has helped me not only as a rider, but avoided accidents in my truck with this mindset as well.
I mainly like to ride in the Purple Zone, with some moments in the Coral Pink. And my own top tip is: don't go so frickin' fast kids.
I had to dislike cause you were at 42, and that's a good enough answer to the meaning of life, slow down and enjoy the ride.
I'm a cruiser, don't like going over 80mph, that's why i got a 250cc classic Cafe Racer/Scrambler. Real fat rims n tyres, mad suspension, forgiving as heck!
@@mellon3891 I'm at 48 now, so time to like my post now that moment is past.
@@Beastgrows I ride a 370 now - and I love it. My 850 triple was too big, too heavy, too fast, too tall, crap around town. My KTM Duke will do the ton, and it's great. Excellent build quality too - no rusting and has thick paint. Highly recommended :)
From side of vehicle perspective, i find it helpful to watch the front wheels. It seems to be easier to tell if they're stopping or not. Also helps for earlier detection of which direction the vehicle may be heading
DDTF- Derflip is a SMART rider.
Derflip, immediately afterwards- runs stop sign while pedestrians are in the crosswalk.
16:44 - This riders escape route is to simply wait until the car infront of them has fully committed to the lane change and is in the other lane. Not half way straddling the lane divider. Simply wait for the car in front of you to be fully in the other lane.
yes you are right
that's a big no no here in the US. Specifically mentioned in the driver's manuals as something not to do. Surprised Dan didn't mention that.
@@claqyagami6914 I was as well. Couldn't believe he didn't touch on it.
@@claqyagami6914 watching quite a few of his vids…he doesn’t really call out rider bad behaviours, when he does it seems more passively …a lot of these situations are a great learning tools, but it should be called out more imho on rider no, no’s.
I get though he’s just trying to be “neutral” or in a funny way maybe more like fence sitting bias towards the rider 😃
I'm baffled by how the rider can be upset about this. The car still owns the lane when cammer goes to pass.
I have watched every video from current till now and this probably has the best example of going from yellow to orange multiple times as your riding. Definitely recommend any rider to watch this one.
At 20:28, the smart car thing, there is also the fact the rider is doing /at least/ twice the speed limit. It's marked 30kph, can't read the speedo but it looks to be showing at least 80. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
At 20:55 when he slows down, it looks like he was going 100km/h (looks like 3 numbers on the speedo). He was going pretty much 3x the speed limit.
Oh, there is more from that guy. Also in next 21:15 he passes all traffic as they would be still. That is a stupid aggresive driver and nothing more. If you want a speed, then take your horse out of city. Not to mention why the hack would he change lane if he did not take a turn?
@@flk1331 Yeah, just checked after finding a clearer image of some GS500e km/h dials. He came into the 30kph zone at an indicated ~105km/h, so 3.5 times the speed limit. He ran between the 2 vehicles at 60km/h, twice the speed limit (although he was admittedly still hard on the brakes and came out the other side at 40). I used to ride as a courier in London, getting around fast was how you made money, but riding like he does in town is going to cost you your life, or worse, someone else's.
At the point Vladislavs points out, he's doing 120km/h, but it's an open road and liable to be limited to 90 or 100km/h, I have far less of a problem with that even if it's limited to 50 (which is possible in Portugal) as the major risk is only to himself.
2:27 this CBR1000RR actually does have a steering damper- it’s the Honda Electronic Steering Damper (HESD) and the unit is under the gas tank cover, the arm extends from under the front left side of the tank and attaches to the triple clamp
and it looked like he kept the power on, some think that's how to get out of a wobble like that. It did not work.
thank you sir. I have changed my approach to open lane opportunitys, and find myself actively thinking that phrase and taking precaution.
I always appreciate the insight into the immediate field care of traumatic injury, that's an area I'm becoming more interested in over time. I'm a long time rider and think you have found a great way to articulate the hazards and thinking strategies that we motorcyclists mostly learn the hard way.
I do believe that at 18:14 the rider was at fault, that's maybe also the reason why he continued to ride instead of confronting him. I don't know what the laws are outside of Germany, but
here we have something called "right before left" in which the vehicle coming from the right has always the right of way (unless stated otherwise by traffic signs).
So never rush into an intersection, especially if you have no right of way.
you are right, i was looking for this comment. the rider is at fault, the car had the right of way...right before left.
DAN!!! THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART! Youre whole "side of vehicle" just saved my friggin life. Ohio is pushing the phone laws but man...people still on their phones. Your content just saved my life cuz i saw a young "bro" pull right in front of me while adjusting his spotify playlist. He admitted as much.
The ball one happened to me too… was going slow speed and I came to a complete stop and was able to kick it back to them. They saw me ahead of time and we all made eye contact. Good on both ends for us.
19:52 could also try not going ~110km/h in a 30 zone
That kid almost fled the scene when he seen his ball cause a accident.
(Woah i'm a member! Thanks 😊)
Once I saw an inscription painted on a truck: "After rolling ball comes running child". Since then, without having to think about it I always slow down significantly and scan for a kid when I see a ball on the street.
I suffered from a brain reboot twice. One year apart to the day. The second was way worse as my head took a direct hit. There's a moment it seems like where there's nothing then suddenly a huge breath like you were underwater and everything inside you tells you to jump up. Or at least that's how mine was. I wanted to stand. I started to walk around deeply confused and then angry that it happened again. Your mind starts going through a primitive state as it starts powering back up and actually function again.
Let's put the bikes in the garage ,,time out knight rider
glad you are alive brother!!
@Jeffrey Edwards I won't let the poor actions of a couple of hit and run morons make me hang up my boots and park it.
@@wkrb0nk109 appreciate that 🤘🏻
@@sweazy1 # 1 place all day long
I'd rather dump a bike than risk an open book fracture.
I drive an 18 wheeler, so many similarities in awareness training. Wish people would realize there's no quick stopping for me though.
Haven't had a bike in nearly 20 years and getting the itch again.
19:30 Derfilip goes from shaking their head at someone running a stop sign to *instantly* doing the same thing themselves, lol
18:27
This rider is somewhere in Europe, possibly in Vienna. The road is definitely a 30er zone, which means the speed limit is 30 km/h (~18 mph). Moreover, the vehicle coming from the right has priority because the crossing is unregulated. So the rider is neither paying attention to the speed limit nor the traffic rules. Sorry rider, but this is Europe, man! 😅
hello there i'm glad that you are explaining everything that well.
idk how is in US with first aid when going to do your driver's licence, but here in EU you have to take first aid curse and you have to pass exam other way no licence for you
Just found out my cousin's step dad was killed in a motorcycle accident. An old lady pulled out Infront of him and his 10 year old daughter, and they collided with the car. In the moments just before the collision he was able to shield his daughter from the brunt of the impact. Because of that she survived with a few bones.
Please stay safe and alert out there and wear full gear. If you're driving a car please take that extra second to be sure the road is clear before pulling out. It could mean the difference between life and death
Love your videos man. I'm a newer rider and they have taught me to develop a defensive and cautious mindset ive found myself asking myself if this happens what would I do whats the most survivable counter to that situation so it becomes muscle memory and when it happens I dont have the think delay.
6:05 it looks like that guy has somehow fallen off his bike before he even appeared next to us...
I smacked my buddy, the video right before that one is the same accident but my POV
It was a big scandal in Romania regarding the biker who felt trying to avoid that ball... The thing is that the police officer who came together with the ambulance warned him about he's gonna be the subject of a criminal investigation if he goes to the hospital (LOL).
A tip I know has helped me out especially riding in Los Angeles is if you see the side of a vehicle start slapping your high beam on and off. They don’t pull out on us because the want to they do it because the do not see us.
Most of these accidents could have been avoided with patients like when a car goes to switch lanes and you try to squeeze past it real fast wait till the damn car gets all the way in it's lane then go
13:42 When in urban/neighborhood areas, never travel on the outside lane. People will open car doors, pull or back out in front of you, or kids will run into the road. ALWAYS use the inside lane unless preparing to turn. If you have to ride in the outside lane, use the inside track.
Watching the videos is very bitter sweet for me. I’m a new rider and this takes away from my want to ride, but I’m the other hand I’m sure it’s important to see this stuff to be aware.
I hate when people are like oh you fell let me help you up immediately. Like no I wanna lay here for a minute, that fall sucked and my leg doesn’t want to work yet or something
Thanks for some awesome training videos. A lot of respect for good riders. I am sticking to Jeeps, 4 wheels instead of 2. Carry On!
Turns going wide or going from inside to outside. Or riding the outside line. The road can have crowning, or have ripples damage to the asphalt, water, oil, or gravel. Going too fast or slow. As well if you’re not looking ahead and focus to close to front wheel and cluster tunnel vision.
I finished my motorcycle safety course to get my license today and within the same day I got pulled over for careless driving. Looks like I need to leave track riding on the track and reevaluate how I can ride safely.
This is basically just an commercial disguised as a youtube video. Its like I'm watching QVC. I'm amazed you're not selling steering dampeners yet.
2:03 accordion effect? Speeding up to catch your buddies and not paying attention to what's beyond your buddies (the turn) and the fact you have to effectively go faster than your friend to catch up with him which ends up with you needing double the braking distance, and running off the road?
It's why if you're riding with friends, you get the slowest guy to lead.
So many of these close calls that you explain their breaking and escape route as good, we never mention their speed. Most are speeding 20 mph over the limits.
Applying front brake while cornering might be a reason for a fall...
too much front brake too fast
Because of Dan, I always watch for side of the vehicle and keep an eye on that front wheel instead of the driver to see if they start moving.
Why do people speed on bikes?! I watch these videos all the time and when i see anything coming i slow down and always stay alert and if i speed, 10 over at the most. People just gotta grow up.
I generally don't ride with people I don't know. If I do I leave plenty of space between me and them and try to ride staggered. Biggest cause of crashing on corners; target fixation. Looking at what you are going to hit or run off onto rather than where you want to actually go. If you find your self going too fast in a corner don't panic and freeze up. Look through the corner and lean some more. Your bike and tyres are far better than you imagine and certainly more capable than most of us.
9:15
I'm from Europe and I can't imagine taking someone that needs help to the hospital can be considered kidnapping... What a weird world we live in
the guy at 19:50 has about 100km/h in the city so double as allowed... and enter a 30 zone. no comment.
I took my first spin on the twisties today. Here in Colorado, im not going slow but im not going that fast, i misjudged the angle of a turn and got VERY close to the guard rail, the gravel right there was frightening. My fingers reached for the brake but i remembered in time that slamming on this brake at 30, on gravel, mid-turn was not the play. Gave it some more angle and got a little bit of engine braking and i was fine. The whole thing was only maybe 3 seconds but it was the longest 3 seconds ive had in a while. I wasnt riding well, there was nothing skillful about it, but im glad ive been binge watching videos like these and that o spent a few weeks practicing before going up the canyon, because i know day 5 i would've 100% crashed in that situation.
Not panicking saved be from either very serious injuries or likely death, because there wasnt a whole lot on the other side of that rail.
About an hour long ride, this happened right at the beginning, and the rest of it beautiful and im so happy that i never felt like getting off my bike. All in all im glad for the lesson and i hope that never happens again lol
3:34 I like how Dan simulated a distraction that caused us to zone out, and then we immediately crash.
I should make a few videos about push\pull steering... People get intimidated because they don't trust the weight of the bike... The push is for a hard left, the pull is for a hard right (because the throttle is on the right)... Your bike can take sand if you are going in a straight line (even during a turn).. It's sharp movements that cause spills especially high sides...
This is great stuff though... I'm going on 10 years on two wheels only and I've learned a lot... Mostly on a bike it's what NOT to do... NEVER PANIC... Keep a light grip and SLOW DOWN... Most good bikes can travel in 3rd gear on surface streets...
That Moreira guy from 19:51 is not a safe rider. He either created or exacerbated both situations because he was speeding - not just a little bit, either. He was doing at least 100 kmh (62 mph) in the first cut and at least 120 kmh (75 mph) in the second. These are city streets with cross traffic. If this is an instructional safety video, that should have been addressed first and foremost.
Was out of state brother here mom had a stroke, few months later fell hit head. Brain injury cvd, aphasia. Not same anymore can not really communicate or move most of body, high anxiety always screaming, fights against everything. We take care of her and do everything. It is pretty traumatic and anxiety inducing itself. Riding is my only pleasure
Did that one kid pass thru the mail box post like it wasn't there? Spooky👻
Those first couple of seconds show a guy go off his bike and hit a mailbox post with...looked like his head. Brutal.
A friend of mine died 20 years ago from hitting wet leaves on a country road, sliding off the road and crushed his chest against a mailbox post in NC. He was 30.
19:28 the guy is riding is in a 30km/h per hour school zone driving at 80 km/h that's for me the first issue here. that's important to i think.
2:19 Three months into riding I wreck going to fast around a corner secondly target fixation, got to focused on where I was going instead of where I wanted to go.
I do it all the time now I say in my head side of vehicle in common thing in a common place
First person I've ever seen "lay'er down" intentionally. Though it was his head he laid down right in the path of the mail post. Ouch.
There is no dampner on a motorcycle. Mechanical bits that dissipate energy are called DAMPERS. They DAMP or remove energy from the system, just like that doohickey on your screen door.
The only "dampeners" you'll find on a ride are dark clouds.
At 19'30" or so, the incident with the micro-car that is hidden, there's a 30km/h speed limit signalled on the surface of the road. That rider appears to be doing over 80! Dan, I'm seeing a lot of self inflicted wounds on these videos and riders continue to blame "blind" car drivers.
The previous weeks before my last wreck, i had been shopping for a new helmet (the one i had decided on but not yet purchased, had loops to pull the cheek pads out in an emergency). During my wreck i slammed my head on the concrete, and was mostly coherent while lying on the ground. But when EMS showed up i kept telling the medics to pull the loops to remove my helmet easier. The helmet i was wearing didnt have them.
Point of the story…If the downed rider is sayin shit that doesnt make sense, make them go to the hospital lol even if they say “im fine”
Steering Dampers - Help prevent the speed wobbles. they do not however COMPLETELY PREVENT it from happening. Depending on your speed of travel and the force of the object or undulation in the roadway this can still happen 100%. They will however Dampen the effects helping to prevent the possibility of total tank slapper situation, not going 150+ on not so smooth highways, are a better more guaranteed way to prevent them, but still not 100% effective.
🤦♂️ just leave it to Lowe’s to take out the mailbox. I saw he commented but this is a friend of mine 😂
Your videos are great!!! Always keeps me aware when I ride
Something not being mentioned here for consideration is just the road itself. In one video the road seems to disappear, but if you look at the tree line and the direction it turns it tells you which way the road will turn, and approximately how fast. On the same video you can also see that the maintenance condition at the shoulder has been poor, allowing the grass and soil to enter into the actual lane. That has to be planned for. On one of the last videos where he has multiple cars in the right lane on a divided roadway with a divider between directions, just get in the left lane if you are thru traffic and there are no vehicles attempting to pass. That way you don' t have to worry as much about what the cars pulling out are going to do (most drivers do have some degree of awareness, or they would already be pushing up daisies) and you don't have to concern yourself on which way you'll need to go when they pull out. Yes, I do realize that we ride amidst idiots, but most people have their act together.
I'd say target fixation for the bike with rubber duck
Looks like the sv650 got a false neutral. Happens to me sometimes when I'm coming to a stop, I don't hit the shifter hard enough to go from second to first, but it can happen between other gears too.
Mis with target fix too. He could've Def hit the brakes earlier or commit to corner and cruse to a stop
Just lack of skills. False neutral won't completely ruin your corner like that if you know what you are doing.
At 1:34, bike that crossed lanes hit dirt berm, i would think was " target fixation "
Just FYI, the guy with the ball got fined and deducted points by the police officer that reported to the scene, Constanta Romania
My buddy was the one recording on the Indiana one
No vid, but was on snap taking my friends with me on a short ride. Generally I don't talk much when on a snap call, just set my phone up so they can watch.
Red car to my right a block away at 25mph and has a stop sign, I'm turning left from a stop. No issues. Next corner I'm going to turn right so turn my blinker to right as soon as I get on road, look in my rear view. It's a bit close, but I'm slowing down to turn. Next thing I know, little red car whips past me on my RIGHT!. And yells at ME. In orange/red in that moment I straighten up and go straight no contact made. Missed my turn (no big deal, just take the next one). I checked, yup, had turn signal on as my friends freak out way more than I did. They don't ride. Wasn't mad, just kinda WTF. My friends though? They had road rage for me n I just chuckled. They were telling me I should go after them etc... just said "at the end of the day, I'm fine and they are still bigger than me, don't want to trigger their road rage. 🙃
15:16 CBR1000RR got HESD - Honda Electronic Steering Damper... Not sure why it's didn't help with the wobble
Yellow Stage is my "cautiously optimistic" 🤙
@19.57 if we hadn't been doing 55 in a 30 we would have been in a position where we didn't need to take evasive action by swerving. Very often we see these side of the vehicle incidents where there would be no issue if we were travelling at an appropriate speed for the condition i.e a junction in a built up area.
The numbers on the speedometer seems quite wide, so it appears to be in km/h. It looks like the rider is at 100km/h in a 30km/h street.
Yeah. It's in Portugal, so definitely km/h.
i think Yout videos are grate to show what we shoud not do on a bike and how to reakt in spezial situations ... but .... for Example 16:15 You explain greate what he shoud do .. but You ignore the major foult ... 1. at 16:14 the Biker had a speed of 50 km/h and the Car startet to change lanes ... good to this point ... 16:25 they passed the speed Limit sign of 70 km/H .. Biker 61 km/h .. still ok .. 16:31 the car is still halfway on the left lane .. Biker reached 76km/h 6km over speed limit and maybe in the Blind spot of the mirror of the car ... and 16:49 Biker way over speed Limit at 90km/h still behind the rear weel of the car and maybe within the blind spot .. and the car change his mind to change lanes because of the Truck on the right lane ... so for me and i am myself a Biker .... Stay within the speed limit !! and everybody knows .. if there is a truck in the right lane .. cars will change to the left lane ... so within a town dont exeed the Speed limit !! and check what is in front of You ... there are enough Dangers out there for Bikers without we doing everything to provoke this !!
Last rider should have been WATCHING HIS MIRRORS for incoming cars
THATS why you shouldn't have a phone on your bars.
You dont watch your phone at intersections, you watch for income cars and scan other traffic
Mulțumim!
@12:30 that is exactly what happened to me on May '22, except that I was on a left turn and I didn't see the ball... Still have a knee injury because of the impact of the gas tank. I was wearing full gear but, 400lbs are heavy like it or not.
16:00 The bike rider..didn’t do “a great job”, these statements only encourages the bad behaviours, bad habits…and it’s not necessary.
How bout, defensive driving, and wait for the vehicle ahead to fully vacate the lane, driver still had care and control of the lane…rider just should’ve waited for the completed on change…the vast majority of these riders you present..are idiots…driving like, morons and well beyond their talent….ignorant, dangerous riding that’s giving all riders a bad name….how one rider can get themselves in so many dangerous situations…you have to ask, wonder is it the cars, everyday normal traffic situations …or is it the riders excessive speeds, riding style or generally using public roads/hwy as their race track 🤔
As a rider myself, I certainly understand the rush…but the miles I’ve put on over 30+ years quarter million miles+ of riding…I see many…not all but the vast majority of these ..all preventable by the rider.
Imho, as riders we should be calling it out when we see bad behaviour..not excuse it…as it just encourages other riders to keep the bad habits.
could not agree with you more..Idiots that think they own the road..Been on two wheels since I was eighteen--71 now, have MANY--Many miles on two wheels--current bike has 69,000 miles and in all those years maybe I have had, at the most, 20 kind of close calls..The best safety gear you can use is located between your ears -obviously most of these kids just don't use it..
he legit says that he's talking about the escape path, and then continues to explain how the rest of what he did was wrong. he wasn't saying the dude did a good job overall, just a good job not getting flattened into a pancake
No steering dampening won't stop speed wobble
Do you guys in the US have the right-hand rule?
In Sweden, unless there are road signs that instruct otherwise, riders/drivers are always obliged to give way to incoming road users from the right - therefore drivers/riders coming from the right usually go in knowing they are not obliged to give way to you.
For trex cbr, they definitely didn't have enough space between the bikes
Don't ask an impaired person with a possible head injury to make decisions For example, "do you want an ambulance?"
They did end up calling ems!
Speed speed speed speed.. Over and over again.
At 9:00 you say there has to be concent? Tell that bs to myrtle beach paramedics. I went down to the hotel front desk to find out where the nearest shop was for some aloe lotion and ibuprofen for a sunburn. They (the front desk) insisted to have paramedics come check me out. Once they (the paramedics came), I refused to go with them. I just wanted some aloe and pain meds. The paramedics told me quote: " you either come with us, or we call the police and they force you to come with us". I was like WTF is this BS?! Needless to say when I got the ambulance and hospital bills, I refused to pay as it was technically kidnapping and they'd be lucky if I don't file a lawsuit. Got a letter about 30 days later saying my balance was zero. That shit pissed me right off. However, kinda glad after I got to the hospital. Got a nice dose of dilauded and IV fluids, and sent home with a big bottle of hydrocodone.
I like how Europe has 4 way intersections with no stop signs 😂
Might not be Europe, or at least EU.
And without your sign, you dont know how to act, what to do?
At TS 8:32 Did the rider jump off the bike to the right ?? OMGosh
There’s a lot of examples in this video showing why I ride alone. Maybe with one other who is of the same mind as I am when it comes to pace and safety, but that’s it. When you go 3+ it’s really easy for the monkey brain to take over and make real bad decisions, and even if you resist it chances are the guy/gal behind you has been negatively afflicted.
CBR1000's come with electronic steering dampers as standard right? From like 2004...
You are complimenting DerFilip at 17:44 but are ignoring the fact the car had right-of-way in this situation. So the horn and revving was uncalled for. He just rode too fast for the situation. Still a great save but not the car's fault.
Main reason is TOO MUCH SPEED
Yes, it is frickin; obvious, but our fireman seems unaware of it.
Because they are braking as they turn instead of before they turn
Just got a sv650, no rubber ducky though
Great video as usual. I hear the horn being used a few times through the video. Shouldnt the riders be focused on braking/shifting/swerving rather than pushing the horn?
To fast on entry and not enough lean causes crash in corners.
Speeding /Too fast for conditions in almost every situation.
Why can't more riders see this obvious solution...???
100 kph in a 30 kph zone says it all...
moreira is 20km over the 30 posted on the street
Doesn’t the CBR1000rr come with a steering dampener?
@14:00 Anytime I'm around people, I just imagine they're 2 legged dear... especially kids. Where there is one there are more and they WILL try to get hit by you.
Amazing as always Dan Dan, does your packtalk discount work in the UK ? Xx
Or hear me out dude at 17:08 coulda waited for the car to completely change lanes before passing? Just a thought
you can see slightly on the speedo at 17:40 hes doing 45mph ina 30mph so he is speeding quite a bit as well which didnt help