Make ANY Acoustic Guitar Pickup Sound GREAT With One Pedal! - Audio Sprockets ToneDexter
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Tired of getting an unrealistic acoustic sound when plugging-in your guitar? Spent money on the most stunning tonewoods to then have a cheap Piezo pickup installed? The ToneDexter can give you that in-room acoustic tone with the simple push of a button! ➡️ tinyurl.com/y7wjrxbw
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↪️ Episode Guide ↩️
» 0:00 Introduction to the Audio Sprockets ToneDexter
» 1:00 What Is The ToneDexter?
» 2:15 Let's Compare a regular Acoustic Pickup With The ToneDexter
» 3:05 How Does The ToneDexter Work?
» 7:18 Let's Look At The Acoustic Preamp
» 11:07 Comparing The Tone Dexter To The DI
» 13:00 What Else Does It Come With?
» 16:22 Let's Get Some More Tones
Welcome back to Acoustic Paradiso! Today Ben checks out the incredible Audio Sprokects ToneDexter Preamp Pedal & puts it to the test to find out if it can truly sound like a mic'd up acoustic!
This all-encompassing preamp pedal packs an incredible amount of customization potential. With character controls & 11-position wave maps available, sampling your favourite microphones has never been easier. The ToneDexter takes the sound from your microphone & plugged-in acoustic to create a natural blend of the in-room feel from your acoustic guitar. Easy switching allows you to jump between the DI & Preamp along with a blend switch for full customization & storage.
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I’m glad you are stocking this! I’ve used it I many videos on my channel.
I've got a bass player in one of the bands I mix, who uses this on his upright, and it's been an absolute game changer! It brings a whole new life to the sound. I've also heard incredible results with it on dobro
Bought this pedal last year. One thing to keep in mind is that quality of the mic you use for mapping matters quite a bit. This thing was an absolute game changer for my mandolin with a fishman m200. I have a Taylor with the LR Baggs Anthem system and it honestly didn't improve on that much, mainly because it already sounds great plugged in.
Well done Ben, ur real natural now and good at explaining
I've been using this tecnique for a while to recording in Logic Pro. I use a LR Baggs m80 soundhole pickup passing through a TC Eletronic BODYREZ pedal in a channel and a cheap Behringer Condenser B5 mic in the other channel. So i can get the body sound with the pickup and add some air from the condenser mic. Two separate channels for better mixing. The sound quality is amazing. Very realistic and natural sound. I'm using Recording King acoustic guitars.
Very nice Ben. Thank you so much! 😀
Wow - it sounds better then I thought it would. I hate the Piezo sound. This added some air and bottom. Nice demo. Enjoyed it.
Very beautiful sound! 👍🏻great pedal! I hope one day I will try it with my Yamaha CPX700 🤞 thanks for the video! 🙏 you have french fan!! I suscribe !😉👍🏻
Nice guitar, well played, good demo,but where does all that reverb come from?
The test for any piezo acoustic improver is strumming - strummed chords banged out. Individual notes or arpeggios hide any short comings.The only thing I’ve experienced so far that fixes the awful sound of piezo is alcohol. I just can’t tell you how good “The Star of the County Down” sounds in a Conways bar at about 1am.
Great demo and explanation. Definitely a noticeable improvement all round. Still nothing topping that Shure mic overall.
As an alternative 3 Sigma Audio make these great ‘acoustIc impulse responses’, with tailored (pun intended) ones for magnetic, piezo and soundhole pickups, worth a look.
And of course they work with any IR loader. The benefit of buying IRs like those from 3 Sigma is that they have the skill and resources to get the best possible IRs with great rooms, great mics, and great positioning.
The stock piezo that we all know and...... love?............ perhaps not😂😂😂😂 well said Ben.
Really interesting stuff and great playing. A Kemper for acoustics maybe?
I'm waiting for something like that. Could be cheaper and smaller. Just a box with 20 presets (off course the famous acoustics we all know and love already on board), a little bit of eq, a nice sounding reverb, an effects send and return and that's it. Plug in any guitar and make it sound like a D-28, a J-45, a 0-15, an LG-2 or an SJ-200...., wouldn't that be cool?
I think they're working on it, but they're not there yet. This was the best sounding sollution to a very annoying problem I've heard so far.
Acoustic guitars need to come with their own stock IR's loaded into the preamp, once someone does that it'll be game over for Piezo sounds surely!
I bought this Martin GPC with the Aura+ and it is very good. It had been in store for probably 13 months and I got it at a great price. If Takamine had launched it then it would probably have sold like hot cakes but most Martin punters are purists and I think it was too much for most. Surprised Fishman have not sold it elsewhere though.
@@paulstubbs4487 agree - the Ellipse Aura in my D28-E is one of the best- it's obviously not as good as a good mic in the studio, but it's so much better on stage than having a sound engineer point an SM58 on a wonky mic stand at you. And it's held on inside the soundhole with a magnet, so you can remove it easily if you believe it's affecting your acoustic tone.
Would this help an electric guitar piezo sound more acoustic? Be nice to see a comparison with a Fishman preamp too.
No, it doesn’t work that way.
Sounds amazing! So I could capture a Parlor Guitar sound and charasteristics with teaching the ToneDexter and take it on stage with my PA!? Thank you!
That is correct! Record your Parlor guitar with any microphone & the ToneDexter will then help recreate that in-room sound for when you are plugged-in on stage.
Yes! That's my plan anyway! 😊👍
What a wonderful thing.
as it depends on a good quality mic for the training mode, you might as well spend the money on a decent Fishman preamp and keep it simple and consistent. From experience, the ToneDexter is not worth the hassle
It doesn’t depend on a good quality mic. You can literally use anything.
As a musician, you should know someone with a decent microphone to visit for a quick training session. You only have to do it once. Fishman preamps are good, but I‘ve never heard one really filtering out the piezo quack.
Superb .....from Malaisie ( Kuala Lumpur )
Can you make a model with a 12-string guitar.. come back later and use a six string guitar to play that stored 12 string sound?
I don't play acostic but Google is bad at spelling.
Nice Video!
Could you please do a sound like parkway drive video? They are actually my favourite band and I would love to know how to sound like them.
Greetings from Germany
I wonder how it would do with a 12 string. Sounds pretty good to me here with this guitar. It sure would be a nice home recording tool, once you have all the info captured.
It does take a bit of time to play around with different microphones & presets, but once you have got them right & stored it quickly becomes a must tool in the world of gigging acoustic players!
normally at home you'd record only using a mic... spend more money on a good condenser mic (Schoeps . Neumann, etc)
I wonder about 12 strings also.
@@RaxFx I was just thinking that once you input all the info, (using a mic) you wouldn't need to mic the guitar for recording, and you could get stuff done more quickly in the future. Especially if the acoustic is in a mix with other things, rather than all by itself. And now that you mention it, you could capture "impulses" using different mics too, for different sonics.
@@musicmann1967 sure, you can do all kind of juggling
If I used a mixer into the tone dexter could I use two mics for a bigger picture of my guitar?? For instance if I set up two mics in xy and run. them into a mixer and mixed them together and plugged the mixer into the tone dexter would that work?
Would love to know this too, I would think it would work
Sounds like there off even on this. Hope are you connecting to reverb here?
would it work well with a mosaic 12 string pedal?
Good morning Andertons!
Thanks for tuning in Christopher!
Needed to hear some strumming chords to get a real feel for this.
Acoustic kemper?
Hopefully acoustic players are finally going to twig to the fact that a basic piezo with an IR like this sounds better than the fanciest built-in systems. Only actually miking up the guitar sounds better - and that doesn't include internal mics.
I just want to point out that you don’t need a high end mic to get a great wavemap. Not sure why that’s being thrown around so much here. I have a cheap MXl mic and a standard SM57 and those wave maps sound just as good as the ones I made with my higher end mics. James May the inventor has a list of mic recommendations but he often says you can get great results with a variety of mics.
You're not wrong; there's a reason every professional studio's mike locker has beat-up SM57's and 58's beside the $15K Neumanns. MXL's are hit or miss depending on the model. But I wouldn't call the SM81 "high end". Terrific mid-priced mic.
Nice technology but the price is in the POD Go territory almost. One can set up acoustic guitar IRs in there with no Mic learning as well. (Just buy a couple of IRs and no mic) Well, something for everyone I guess.
Any acoustic? I have a seen a few guitars that would challenge THAT statement! :)
Can this work with a nylon Strat? Can you model the sound with a solid body nylon guitar?
It works directly with any acoustic instrument with a pickup (violin, mandolin, any guitar, cello, ...). Look for it on youtube! :-)
For a solid body nylon guitar, they provide some IR for the yamaha model, AFAIK
So Ben could you use your super expensive tone machine guitar to train the tonedexter and then use it with a slightly cheaper guitar for gigging??
Unfortunatelly, that's not how it works...
Basically, the pedal analyses and compares the input waveform from the pickup with the (target) waveform of the microphone and it computes how to transform the source input sound to _sounds_ like the target microphone sound.
If you use another guitar (with very likely another pickup), you will have a totally different input waveform and the result applying the first-guitar sound transformation can be anywhere between quite good (if you're lucky) and horrible! :-)
Fishman Aura!
Splitting Hairs.... with a decent Line Array PA like that one it should do the job with a good mixer..
The people listening won't know or notice the so slight differences in tonal quality... the only person who will notice it is the person who took the time to set it up... people in the crowd need a smackdown change to notice... that would consist of higher effects... compressors won't be noticed by most unless turned way up... just add on stuff like Reverb and such .. I think this effort, while good for you , probably will not be worth the $$$ for anything a crowd notices.
However if you have the bucks and want to spend the time settling it up , just keep in mind that you are doing it for yourself... Maybe a band member or 2 will notice...but it's for you mostly.
Just got mine in and I'm using it on a Taylor 414 with the ES2 pick ups. I've tried it with Several Mics as well and recording finger picking and flat picking. No mater what combination I use I get a scratchy Metal on metal sound on my image that is not present in either the pick up or the mic sound. Any suggestions?
Es2 is the problem. Get. Am LRbaggs pickup or k&k and the quack goes away.
@@88omarz traded the Tonedexter in for a voiceprint di. It plays a lot nicer with my Taylor 414 and Martin D16. TD definitely has the edge on a lot of pickups, unfortunately it wasn't with mine. Really wish I could have been able to make it work.
@@MrKain311 good to hear am using the voice print with anthem and it sounds great
CAN THIS SYSTEM BE USED WITH A NYLON STRAT? WOULD THE ACOUSTIC SOUND OF A SOLID BODY fLAMENCO BE MIC ABLE? PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS SYSTEM CAN BE USED WITH A NYLON STRING STRATOCASTER?
I think there are Wavemaps available for things like the Yamaha silent guitar, so possibly? They're available free from their website.
@@bensmithguitar Thanks
time for a big jam with rob rabea and ben
419 seems steep for what it does. For that kind of money you could get an HX Stomp with all it's effects and EQ options and use a high quality acoustic IR. You can even get really good acoustic IRs for free... I understand that those IRs are not "custom made" for your guitar, but the difference in sound quality between them and this pedal here are negligible.
piezo's, usually, sound decent enuff under all, but, aggressive strumming - didn't see that demo'd (?)
And he barely let the notes ring out without bending the neck to tremolo.
It really made the sounds feel natural.
Great stuff, but would be best if it had models built in already without the need for "training"
Nonsense. The whole point is to get as close to the sound of YOUR guitar, not whatever they have at the factory.
@@wychwoodmusic for me the issue is simply that not everyone has the additional mic available to do the training.
@@wilsonkok4754 Sounds like you're looking for something like the NUX Optima Air
@@wychwoodmusic perhaps, but that's something that has come on the scene in earnest in the last few months.
But ya, that's why I had written the initial comment
Buy a kk trinity pickups
Now make my ESP sound like a Strat!
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Make ANY Acoustic Guitar Pickup Sound GREAT With Ben!
If your pickup is already good, you don't need an acoustic processor.
Don't misinterpret a "warm body sound" with proximity effect in trying to make a guitar sound like a mic'd guitar. That said, if your pickup is either good or bad try the Adeline AD-85. You may be surprised.
When he plugged the mic in and the speakers popped... Sound Engineers everywhere dropped their spoons into their Weetabix
My bad! To be fair, that was the sound in the headphones, it never comes out of the proper outputs you'd hear onstage.
I know very little about stuff so would just buy a decent guitar with a decent pickup and sound I was happy with in the first place. Looks like a serious case of GAS. Never had a problem with Ben’s tone regardless of what he plays. Keep it simple.
The Tonedexter is simple.
Scott Moreau It’s more complicated than a guitar with a pick up if you have to “train” it!
Jimmy Jimmy Training takes about a minute and then it’s plug and play. I own one and it’s amazing. Sounds just like my guitar unplugged.
Would have been better without the delay/reverb to give a proper idea of what it sounds like
TC Helicon Play Acoustic is all you need!
PLEASE DO AN INTERVIEW WITH KFIR OCHAION
why dont get a better pickup like an anthem or matrix fishman... it probably cost even less...
You don't need to buy a pedal, just buy a Maton guitar. Best system pickup without a doubt.
Goo dreview, ( no offense please have the anderton sound guy edit the moth smacking noises..)
Just buy a pure acoustic, fit a K&K pure mini and get a decent preamp and you're done.
K&K is a nice pickup but not even close to how the Tonedexter sounds.
Here is an example of the difference! :-) czcams.com/video/DBbOpHUatVI/video.html
finally we can get rid of that horrible piezo sound
I hate to be a kill joy but this looks like a pain in the ass to have to go through this with every guitar you plan on using with this pedal.
Make any acoustic guitar sound great with a Ben.
The proof in the pudding with these things is to do a basic common strumming demo. Sadly, hardly any of these types of videos do.
What is that horrible high-pitched tone I start hearing at 4:55?
I noticed that too ... I thought it was the laptop.
Can't stand when youtubers make apologize for making a small accidental noise... Like we expect a perfect presentation and will be offended if he doesn't address the obvious transgression!
How Many Times Can You Smack Those Annoying Chops? LATER!
bull corn
Seems like a waste of time and money.
What's with the neck w*nking vibrato? Cut it out, acoustic guitar is not supposed to sound like an old gramophon.
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Gee sus, what a lot of sodding around and for what ? The guitar sounded good on its own.
TO make the guitar feel like an acoustic,even when plugged in with a piezo pickup. For me, it was a game changer, honestly.
@@bensmithguitar Some people like the quack, quack, quack... I am not one of them!