Hello Mr.Parnell, I'm old saxman, been watching for about a month. Back when I never had all these great instructors, such as yourself. I'm jumpin in , both feet. Ordered an aerophone Go, Bose S1s, F1 sub, etc....Maybe we can play together someday, Thank you sir, Your ardent student, cousin Billy
Parnell I am so glad you are doing commercial work for the AE10. Your different videos, especially those for 2.0 and later, and on the accessories (like this video) are the reason I purchased one of these, and I have no regrets. I hope you continue in the online informational loop, ALL of your presentations have helped.
Thank you Alistair. I bought an AE-10 due to your videos and it is comforting that you are there to inform us of updates and to help us get to grips with it.
Another great video thank you Alistair. Brilliantly informative and always clear and concise. Actually your demos were the reason I bought an aerophone! Think I shall have to get one of the new mouth pieces too by the look!! Keep up the great work!
After viewing this excellent demonstration, I immediately went out and purchased the new mouthpiece! Yes! It is a major improvement. With the old mouthpiece, I could never figure out how to get a natural vibrato going. I was forced to choose between having pitch-bend or having the automatic vibrato. I had been really hoping that Roland would come up with a firmware update to solve this and have it respond more naturally. But as it turned out, the solution instead was the new mouthpiece. Now I can easily obtain a natural vibrato, as well as an easier time with the pitch bend as well! I still need to play with it more to really get used to the new feel in a full playing context. But already, right of the bat, this is new mouthpiece is really paying off. Thank you so much for calling my attention to this new product, as well as the outstanding demonstrations!
Hi Steffen, thanks for your helpful comment about the improved Roland Aerophone OP-AE10MPH mouthpiece reed. It is a year later and I would love to get your feedback after using it for some time. Can you tell me, with the hard reed, if you are able to precisely control the depth of the pitch bend and vibrato? To clarify, with both my acoustic reed, and my EWI4000s bite sensor, I can smoothly and naturally achieve 8% or 64% or 92%. In other words it is not an on/off feel, but a matter of pressure. Do you get the same depth variation control? Thanks!
That was a very helpful demo of the new mouthpiece. I just ordered an Aerophone AE-10, estimated to be delivered in early May. I hope it will have this newer version mouthpiece. I am watching every one of your videos on the Aerophone. There is so much good, useful info in each one. I will be SO ready for that delivery. Thank you.
Just love these videos being delivered here, Allistair is doing a great job here for us novices out there. I wonder if it would be possible to cover in depth video's on the use of the App? some of us don't know the terms in the App means which makes it difficult to tweak the app according to how we would like it.
Excellent demo. Very clearly presented. I’ve had the same issues with the original mouthpiece. This video brought this new mouthpiece to my attention. Now to go order one right away! Thanks!
I think this will make a difference for me as I have been struggling a bit with the bite adjustment to feel right. A part of this also has to do from coming from the EWI mouthpiece setup along with finger positions and acclimating from the octave rollers to switches. Thanks for another helpful video.
Daniel, thanks for your helpful comment about the improved Roland Aerophone OP-AE10MPH, especially your perspective coming from the EWI bite sensor. A year later, can you tell me if you are able to get the vibrato depth control with the Aerophone hard reed to the same level as you can with your EWI? Specifically, with my EWI4000s and can apply any amount of pressure and easily control the depth of the bend. But I have read that with the old mouth piece, the Aerophone was essentially on/off with not much control. Your input will be helpful for me to decide what to buy for my niece. Thanks!
Well I got my new mouthpiece today, what a massive improvement. Alistair was right, I was waiting for arrival in UK, but I had to get from abroad as I could not wait much longer. Anyone who has not switched yet needs to and no I don't work for Roland but I would be their best customer if they sent me upgrades at same time as Alistair he he. Keep up good work Alistair, just about to watch new Chords vid.
Just ordered the new mouthpiece. Love my A e 10. It’s all I play now because it’s so light and easy to blow into. I would gladly spend more money for an AE 10 with more sounds. Perhaps - Piano - acoustic guitar and more Synth sounds.
We just got these stiffer reed mouthpieces in stock here in the USA at Patchman Music. I strongly recommend getting this mouthpiece over the original paper-thin reed type. All the new AE-10 units we are now selling already have been upgraded with this mouthpiece installed and tested here. More info is here... www.patchmanmusic.com/roland.html
Hello Alistair. Yes the latest AE-10 units we received here at Patchman Music already have the thicker reed installed along with a few other tweaks. It really does make for a nice improvement in bite response- especially when coupled with the latest firmware update. More info on the Aerophone is here: www.patchmanmusic.com/roland.html
I would bet that not having the thin reed cracked would make a difference too. I got my Aerophone used and discovered that the reed had a crack 3/4 of the width of the reed covered by the fastening block. I have the two new mouthpieces on order but there is llittle I can do settings-wise until they come in. Going to drill through Bari Sop sax reed and see if I can at least mount that until they come in.
Thanks Alistair, still waiting for it to arrive here in Sydney.. The harder new MP would be my preference without even trying as I find the old one too soft for me. 🙏🏽
I think you’ll love it Andrew. Thanks again for watching and commenting. If any of you guys haven’t checked out Andrew’s channel you really should. Some of the best Aerophone demos.
I asked Andertons in the UK if the new hard mouthpiece was shipping with the AE10G and was told that Roland have confirmed with them that it ships with the old soft mouthpiece.
There seems to be some confusion over this. Maybe there’s an overlap of older stock and new stock. I’ve heard new units will have the new mouthpiece included.
The more AE10 videos the better.Feel not enough knowledge on ae10 compared to ae 20and 30. Can't afford them yet.The bite sensor is not showing on menu.Any troubleshooting ideas? I'd go crazy not being able to play for more than a few days that's why hesitant to send in for servicing if unnecessary.Your knowledge sharing is great!
With the new mouthpiece, you get a sound of a real, responsive wind instrument. The visual difference between the two was just add dramatic as the aural!!!!
I am from India I planned to buy this AE-10 but when I am seeing this video I like know did Roland updated the mouthpiece for their new product of AE-10 G at present
With the harder reed, it looks like you're able to effect the sound more with the throat position in addition to the lip/embochure. Is that true? If so, thats much more saxophone like!
I really don’t think the throat makes any difference on the Aerophone although I guess it must affect air speed, but on a Sax of course you can affect pitch with the throat and sound to some extent. For the Aerophone to work the same way it would have to constantly scan your oral cavity. That’s would be cool.
I got my new Aerophone AE10 a few days ago (April 26 2019). Mine came with a hard reed and Ver 3.00 so I was good to go straight out of the box. The bite sensor isn't working. I saw Alistair's tutorial about setting it up and It's not functioning at all and I would expect it to function like my Yamaha WX-5 since it looks like it is the same "floating cantilever" set up as the Yamaha. So I am not going to mess with it any further until I call Roland tech support. If tech support tells me to gently bend the cantilever so it touches the reed, and I break the sensor, I want to be on the phone with them when that happens. LOL
Anyone find the reed way too hard to keep at pitch? I'd played sax before and there's no way I needed to bite that hard just to keep a pitch. It's crazy. And it changes for some notes. Like I bite down (hard) and play a D major scale and everything is fine until I get to the open C# and although all the other notes up to that point were fine (only due to my concentrated effort) the C# is almost impossible to keep in tune. I have to bite it with my teeth to get it to stay in tune. This is too much work - sax used to be fun! LOL I have to turn the bite control off to enjoy it.
@Lennart Odeberg I wrote here thinking that someone would tell me that my problem is odd and maybe I'd received a defective one. Alas, no replies. Anyway, yeah, I have to turn bite control off. I can put it on for about 3 minutes and then I'm done. I used to play sax. It wasn't this hard and a medium embouchure was used. You could bend up or down by tightening or loosening. I understand the Aerophone isn't exactly like a sax but it shouldn't be this hard. .
Alastair I bought my Ae10 about a month ago, having watched all your videos and comparing AE10 and EWI. I would really appreciate a detailed video on correct articulation (with the new hard reed). I have experimented with various tongue positions to try to achieve a clean, sharp articulation. The problem is that most come out as a soft 'th', rather than a sharp 'dh'. I find that the best is to block the wide gap completely between reed and mouthpiece with the tongue and use an 'explosive' burst of air. What are your thoughts please - or anyone else's?
Hi. I think there are two issues here. One is we all do slightly different things with our tongue when articulating and second I think there is some inconsistency with how the Aerophone responds, particularly with fast repetitions. Of source the reed isn’t doing anything to affect articulations here, it’s purely airflow. Personally I don’t try to block the gap between the reed and mouthpiece but use my tongue on the roof of my mouth a bit like a flute player would do. Just to clarify- this is.NOT how it should be done on an acoustic sax. It might be worth thinking very carefully about precisely what your tongue is doing. Very often I think we don’t realise what is happening. Good idea for a video but the overwhelming problem here is we need an MRI scanner to show what’s happening inside the mouth as we tongue. 😕
Thanks for quick reply Alistair. I already play acoustic sax and clarinet and have been struggling to replicate their articulation techniques on the AE-10. I'll try your roof of mouth technique now. One other thing. It's easy to bend pitch down. But I can only bend pitch up above my default in-tune pressure using the thumb. Is this your technique?
Hello Sir! Thanks for this. Can I learn to play sax well on this instrument? Or is it a bad idea for a beginner to learn on this ... ? Thanks you, Be well - K
You can certainly set the Aerophone up to play fine with no bite pressure at all. As long as you can make a reasonable seal around the mouthpiece it will work. You might have to work on the settings if you want to achieve lip pitch bend and vibrato but it’s totally doable.
Are the mouthpiece caps and reeds interchangeable? I still haven't seen one for sale, in the UK - only from shops that have a .uk web address but are based elsewhere.
Thanks, Alistair. That's good to know. Maybe I'll try to make my own reed, if I don't see one to buy soon. I think the problem with the original reed is that it flexes so much that the response depends on how far your lip is from the end of the lever - either further out, or further in makes the reed bend so there's less deflection. Unfortunately, it's quite hard to judge that.
I imported one from Thomann, in the end. It's definitely better. It feels more like the Yamaha WX5 reed now - except the Aerophone can still only bend the pitch down, not up, due to some arbitrary decision made by Roland.
How woul be the best way to put wireles to roland ae-10?. Cual sería la mejor forma de que el roland ae-10 sea inalambrico. The Joyo JW-01 coul be working. Podría funcionar el Joyo JW-01
+samian lu No. it works in a different way to the Sax. On a Sax you are partially stopping the vibration of the read, on the Aerophone the reed doesn’t vibrate.
Hello Mr.Parnell, I'm old saxman, been watching for about a month. Back when I never had all these great instructors, such as yourself. I'm jumpin in , both feet. Ordered an aerophone Go, Bose S1s, F1 sub, etc....Maybe we can play together someday, Thank you sir, Your ardent student, cousin Billy
Glad to help
Parnell I am so glad you are doing commercial work for the AE10. Your different videos, especially those for 2.0 and later, and on the accessories (like this video) are the reason I purchased one of these, and I have no regrets. I hope you continue in the online informational loop, ALL of your presentations have helped.
Thank you Mr. Parnell, one can see you're a professional musician, but you make your explanations available to every music lover 😊
Thanks for watching.
Thank you Alistair. I bought an AE-10 due to your videos and it is comforting that you are there to inform us of updates and to help us get to grips with it.
Thanks for your kind words.
I want one ASAP, great demo of the difference. Being a sax player for many years, I appreciate anything that can get it closer to that feel. Thanks!
Another great video thank you Alistair. Brilliantly informative and always clear and concise. Actually your demos were the reason I bought an aerophone! Think I shall have to get one of the new mouth pieces too by the look!! Keep up the great work!
After viewing this excellent demonstration, I immediately went out and purchased the new mouthpiece! Yes! It is a major improvement. With the old mouthpiece, I could never figure out how to get a natural vibrato going. I was forced to choose between having pitch-bend or having the automatic vibrato. I had been really hoping that Roland would come up with a firmware update to solve this and have it respond more naturally. But as it turned out, the solution instead was the new mouthpiece. Now I can easily obtain a natural vibrato, as well as an easier time with the pitch bend as well! I still need to play with it more to really get used to the new feel in a full playing context. But already, right of the bat, this is new mouthpiece is really paying off. Thank you so much for calling my attention to this new product, as well as the outstanding demonstrations!
Hi Steffen, thanks for your helpful comment about the improved Roland Aerophone OP-AE10MPH mouthpiece reed. It is a year later and I would love to get your feedback after using it for some time.
Can you tell me, with the hard reed, if you are able to precisely control the depth of the pitch bend and vibrato? To clarify, with both my acoustic reed, and my EWI4000s bite sensor, I can smoothly and naturally achieve 8% or 64% or 92%. In other words it is not an on/off feel, but a matter of pressure. Do you get the same depth variation control? Thanks!
That was a very helpful demo of the new mouthpiece. I just ordered an Aerophone AE-10, estimated to be delivered in early May. I hope it will have this newer version mouthpiece. I am watching every one of your videos on the Aerophone. There is so much good, useful info in each one. I will be SO ready for that delivery. Thank you.
Just love these videos being delivered here, Allistair is doing a great job here for us novices out there. I wonder if it would be possible to cover in depth video's on the use of the App? some of us don't know the terms in the App means which makes it difficult to tweak the app according to how we would like it.
Excellent demo. Very clearly presented. I’ve had the same issues with the original mouthpiece. This video brought this new mouthpiece to my attention. Now to go order one right away! Thanks!
I think this will make a difference for me as I have been struggling a bit with the bite adjustment to feel right. A part of this also has to do from coming from the EWI mouthpiece setup along with finger positions and acclimating from the octave rollers to switches. Thanks for another helpful video.
Daniel, thanks for your helpful comment about the improved Roland Aerophone OP-AE10MPH, especially your perspective coming from the EWI bite sensor. A year later, can you tell me if you are able to get the vibrato depth control with the Aerophone hard reed to the same level as you can with your EWI? Specifically, with my EWI4000s and can apply any amount of pressure and easily control the depth of the bend. But I have read that with the old mouth piece, the Aerophone was essentially on/off with not much control. Your input will be helpful for me to decide what to buy for my niece. Thanks!
Roland UK confirmed to me today that the AE10G is shipped with the hard reed mouthpiece.
Well I got my new mouthpiece today, what a massive improvement. Alistair was right, I was waiting for arrival in UK, but I had to get from abroad as I could not wait much longer. Anyone who has not switched yet needs to and no I don't work for Roland but I would be their best customer if they sent me upgrades at same time as Alistair he he. Keep up good work Alistair, just about to watch new Chords vid.
Great stuff Martin.
Just ordered the new mouthpiece. Love my A e 10. It’s all I play now because it’s so light and easy to blow into. I would gladly spend more money for an AE 10 with more sounds. Perhaps - Piano - acoustic guitar and more Synth sounds.
From the side view, it is clear to me that you have to make less effort to get a pitch bend. Very helpful, thank you!
Thanks for another great video. I hope to get mine as soon as it's available.
We just got these stiffer reed mouthpieces in stock here in the USA at Patchman Music. I strongly recommend getting this mouthpiece over the original paper-thin reed type. All the new AE-10 units we are now selling already have been upgraded with this mouthpiece installed and tested here. More info is here... www.patchmanmusic.com/roland.html
Hello Alistair. Yes the latest AE-10 units we received here at Patchman Music already have the thicker reed installed along with a few other tweaks. It really does make for a nice improvement in bite response- especially when coupled with the latest firmware update. More info on the Aerophone is here: www.patchmanmusic.com/roland.html
I would bet that not having the thin reed cracked would make a difference too. I got my Aerophone used and discovered that the reed had a crack 3/4 of the width of the reed covered by the fastening block. I have the two new mouthpieces on order but there is llittle I can do settings-wise until they come in. Going to drill through Bari Sop sax reed and see if I can at least mount that until they come in.
Yep, I got mine today, will be testing it shortly.
Do you play this mouthpiece with lower teeth on the plastic reed or lip curled in a-la saxophone?
Lower lip on the read for me unlike the EWI that I play teeth on top and bottom.
the new aerophone go equipped with hard reed, feel so good to oringinal sax
I just bought a new Aerophone and it came with the new mouthpiece. 😊
+Yambaization Enjoy.
Very helpful. I have had to work hard to achieve a half decent pitch bend and reasonable vibrato. Will give the new MPH a try. Thanks.
Thanks
Thanks Alistair, still waiting for it to arrive here in Sydney.. The harder new MP would be my preference without even trying as I find the old one too soft for me. 🙏🏽
I think you’ll love it Andrew.
Thanks again for watching and commenting.
If any of you guys haven’t checked out Andrew’s channel you really should. Some of the best Aerophone demos.
I asked Andertons in the UK if the new hard mouthpiece was shipping with the AE10G and was told that Roland have confirmed with them that it ships with the old soft mouthpiece.
There seems to be some confusion over this. Maybe there’s an overlap of older stock and new stock.
I’ve heard new units will have the new mouthpiece included.
Thanks you!
Welcome!
The more AE10 videos the better.Feel not enough knowledge on ae10 compared to ae 20and 30. Can't afford them yet.The bite sensor is not showing on menu.Any troubleshooting ideas?
I'd go crazy not being able to play for more than a few days that's why hesitant to send in for servicing if unnecessary.Your knowledge sharing is great!
Hi. Did you update the firmware?
With the new mouthpiece, you get a sound of a real, responsive wind instrument. The visual difference between the two was just add dramatic as the aural!!!!
Thank you so much for watching.
Great I shall order one 👍
Loving your videos as I consider purchasing an aerophone. Do you think new products in this category will be announced at NAMM this week?
It will be interesting to see won’t it?
I’m wondering if any of the other manufacturers will get back on it again.
I am from India I planned to buy this AE-10 but when I am seeing this video I like know did Roland updated the mouthpiece for their new product of AE-10 G at present
Yes. As far as I know all new Aerophones come with the harder reed mouthpiece.
iSax - Alistair Parnell thank you
With the harder reed, it looks like you're able to effect the sound more with the throat position in addition to the lip/embochure. Is that true? If so, thats much more saxophone like!
I really don’t think the throat makes any difference on the Aerophone although I guess it must affect air speed, but on a Sax of course you can affect pitch with the throat and sound to some extent. For the Aerophone to work the same way it would have to constantly scan your oral cavity.
That’s would be cool.
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I would like to hear how it works at the position of the saxophone sound.
My new Aerophone came with the hard reed mouthpiece installed.
I got my new Aerophone AE10 a few days ago (April 26 2019). Mine came with a hard reed and Ver 3.00 so I was good to go straight out of the box. The bite sensor isn't working. I saw Alistair's tutorial about setting it up and It's not functioning at all and I would expect it to function like my Yamaha WX-5 since it looks like it is the same "floating cantilever" set up as the Yamaha. So I am not going to mess with it any further until I call Roland tech support. If tech support tells me to gently bend the cantilever so it touches the reed, and I break the sensor, I want to be on the phone with them when that happens. LOL
Do you think a mouthpiece that uses traditional non-digital reeds might work with the AEROPHONE ?
Hi. No, I’m afraid not.
Anyone find the reed way too hard to keep at pitch? I'd played sax before and there's no way I needed to bite that hard just to keep a pitch. It's crazy. And it changes for some notes. Like I bite down (hard) and play a D major scale and everything is fine until I get to the open C# and although all the other notes up to that point were fine (only due to my concentrated effort) the C# is almost impossible to keep in tune. I have to bite it with my teeth to get it to stay in tune. This is too much work - sax used to be fun! LOL I have to turn the bite control off to enjoy it.
@Lennart Odeberg I wrote here thinking that someone would tell me that my problem is odd and maybe I'd received a defective one. Alas, no replies.
Anyway, yeah, I have to turn bite control off. I can put it on for about 3 minutes and then I'm done. I used to play sax. It wasn't this hard and a medium embouchure was used. You could bend up or down by tightening or loosening. I understand the Aerophone isn't exactly like a sax but it shouldn't be this hard. .
I’d like to hear Alistair’s response to this.
Thanks !
Alastair
I bought my Ae10 about a month ago, having watched all your videos and comparing AE10 and EWI. I would really appreciate a detailed video on correct articulation (with the new hard reed). I have experimented with various tongue positions to try to achieve a clean, sharp articulation. The problem is that most come out as a soft 'th', rather than a sharp 'dh'. I find that the best is to block the wide gap completely between reed and mouthpiece with the tongue and use an 'explosive' burst of air. What are your thoughts please - or anyone else's?
Hi.
I think there are two issues here.
One is we all do slightly different things with our tongue when articulating and second I think there is some inconsistency with how the Aerophone responds, particularly with fast repetitions. Of source the reed isn’t doing anything to affect articulations here, it’s purely airflow.
Personally I don’t try to block the gap between the reed and mouthpiece but use my tongue on the roof of my mouth a bit like a flute player would do.
Just to clarify- this is.NOT how it should be done on an acoustic sax.
It might be worth thinking very carefully about precisely what your tongue is doing. Very often I think we don’t realise what is happening.
Good idea for a video but the overwhelming problem here is we need an MRI scanner to show what’s happening inside the mouth as we tongue. 😕
Thanks for quick reply Alistair. I already play acoustic sax and clarinet and have been struggling to replicate their articulation techniques on the AE-10. I'll try your roof of mouth technique now. One other thing. It's easy to bend pitch down. But I can only bend pitch up above my default in-tune pressure using the thumb. Is this your technique?
Hello Sir! Thanks for this. Can I learn to play sax well on this instrument? Or is it a bad idea for a beginner to learn on this ... ? Thanks you, Be well - K
+Kieren Moore There are some things that you can only learn on a real sax. In terms of fingering the Aerophone is a great practice tool.
I know this is an old thread but i am wondering how not having teeth would effect the ability to play using this mouthpiece. Ty.
You can certainly set the Aerophone up to play fine with no bite pressure at all. As long as you can make a reasonable seal around the mouthpiece it will work.
You might have to work on the settings if you want to achieve lip pitch bend and vibrato but it’s totally doable.
Are the mouthpiece caps and reeds interchangeable?
I still haven't seen one for sale, in the UK - only from shops that have a .uk web address but are based elsewhere.
The caps are interchangeable and I think the feeds are too.
Thanks, Alistair. That's good to know. Maybe I'll try to make my own reed, if I don't see one to buy soon.
I think the problem with the original reed is that it flexes so much that the response depends on how far your lip is from the end of the lever - either further out, or further in makes the reed bend so there's less deflection. Unfortunately, it's quite hard to judge that.
I imported one from Thomann, in the end. It's definitely better.
It feels more like the Yamaha WX5 reed now - except the Aerophone can still only bend the pitch down, not up, due to some arbitrary decision made by Roland.
Is this on sale in the UK yet? Can't seem to find a supplier?
I’m not sure. I’ll try and do some digging.
How woul be the best way to put wireles to roland ae-10?. Cual sería la mejor forma de que el roland ae-10 sea inalambrico.
The Joyo JW-01 coul be working. Podría funcionar el Joyo JW-01
Hi Alistair, may I ask question about Aerophone mouthpiece ? does it can do such as Jazz Mute articulation ? thanks A lot .
+samian lu No. it works in a different way to the Sax. On a Sax you are partially stopping the vibration of the read, on the Aerophone the reed doesn’t vibrate.
will the mouthpiece for the new ae1 work one the ae10?
+Michael Manning No. it’s a different design.
Thanks. There are so many great things about the Aerophone. But a couple things that are almost dealbreakers. It’s just so close to perfect.