The Monster's Den: Films We Saw in the Theater, and Left Pissed Off!
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 21. 08. 2024
- Join Pete Pardo, Jamie Lazlo, Craig Kaminski, Chris Alo, and Dan Brown for a discussion of films we saw in the theater and left pissed off and disappointed!
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I'm pissed off when there's no 'monster's den' like this one. the team excel at sorting good from bad - but with the added public service of recommending films so bad, they are reeeal entertaining. Chris Alo is pissed off, you witness a new kind of poetry woven into film criticism. Chris loves to vent, and we love his venting. Where did Pete find these blokes? Magic. Loved this! đđââ
Chris is a master at venting indeed xD
Evil Dead the original film is a Hell of a lot scarier than Dead By Dawn for sure, but alongside the former I donât agree with that statement about it being the same movie. Army Of Darkness was totally different and more like a Monty Python type of genre a.k.a: medieval horror fantasy. A Nightmare On Elm Street remake however? I agree âïž 1980âs Donât Go In The House scared the shite outta Me til the point where I had to sleep with my mom at age 13! Maniac kinda ripped this flick off a few years later when Joe Spinellâs character is surrounded by the dead women who heâs tortured and dressed in his motherâs clothes and the only thing that isnât added; is that theyâve not been burned alive. Definitely worth seeking out though Pete and nothing like the usual low budget horror flicks of this period. Great addition with Jamie being added to your cast of characters btw! Sincerely, DJP Anal Cunt;Postmortem and Kilslug Sony; Earache đŹđ§ Columbia and TAANG!! Records @ ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Greetings đ đ from Boston, Massachusetts Amerikkka quite naturally.. Cheers fellas! đ„
Enjoy folks! Let us know what chapped your ass at the pictures!
On my channel this week, if you wanna come on over - new Tull review, new Marillion Season's End boxset, some Chow Yun Fat 80s classic stuff , an interview with Big Star legend Jody Stephens - and tomorrow a review of the latest Whitesnake re-release boxset. Over the weekend, a review of two oddball horror-blaxploitation films on bluray...
You should hate Quentin Tarantino as well. đ
@@TABL3SIX Love him. Seen every one of his films on the big screen. Only one I don't love is Death Proof .
With respect, you obviously have alot of knowledge, but please stop stealing others punchline, it's kinda rude. Let them tell their story. You can talk when they are done. Keep up the good work Davy! Hope you don't take it the wrong way.
@@DavysFlicks where did my post go? ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
@@vicvega6825 agreed here. he keeps cutting people off
Love you guys, coming all the way from California. Iâm 25 years old and none of my friends can relate to stuff like this. I grew up with older parents and the showed me and my brother and sister classic movies and music.
Hey, thanks Spencer, glad you enjoyed it!
1) Highlander II: The Quickening
2) Battlefield Earth
3) Halloween: Resurrection
4) Jaws: The Revenge
5) The Village
6) The Predator
7) Batman & Robin
8) Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
9) Terminator: Salvation
10)Alien: Resurrection
11)An American Werewolf in Paris
12)Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Skywalker
13)Man's Best Friend
14)Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
15)Godzilla (1998)
Other panelists getting mad at Dan for rambling way too long is becoming a wonderful recurring theme of this show.
While they're talking way much than he does.. LOL
@@Fantomassexybeast None do - as Chad said, it's NOT a one off. Otherwise the other 2 who moved him along would push the 3rd!
Besides, if others speak they've picked 3 or 4 things all on topic - as King Alo said, Dan just did the plot mostly!
for real
Chris Alo listening to Dan đ„±đ
Dan is very well-informed, but he lacks self-awareness.
When I saw The Witch in the theatre, 2 women left in a huff during the scene with the infant and the Witch. And they made a BIG show about leaving. That incident brought me great pleasure.
Thank you, Davey, for bringing up Superman returns. I was 7, turning 8 in 2006, and I begged my dad to take me. We were so excited, and man, I walked out so upset. I was so upset that I stayed away from Superman for years.
Yeah, it's a disgrace. Singer was SO high on himself after X-Men 1 and 2 he thought he could be Donner. And well, for various reasons we won't need to worry about Singer again!!
I was thinking about adding Supernan III to my list.
@@DavysFlicksKevin Spacey as Lex Luthor...ugh.Awful.I agree,it should have been Brainiac.The cyborg Brainiac from the 80's could have been awesome.Than again,they probably would have found a way to ruin him.
Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull đ there was a bunch of us from work who went to see it and when we walked out looked at each other and said WTF was that đđ great show guys â€
Same! Awful movie
Great call
Can't decide what's worse--the movie or the pretentious title. LORD!
Great to hear the comments about the Superhero movies. Just like the Monster's Den I am superheroed out at this point.
Dan Brown, keep up those rant. I am such a fanboy! Keep up the good work boys, my favorite show on youtube! I think I have seen all of the shows. Love it!
Jamie Laszlo is best thing that has happened to this channel!
Thank you guys for giving up part of your evening to entertain us. You are all much appreciated!
Cheers, tell it to the "You shouldn't pick that", "he went on too long", "he doesn't know anything" brigade! ;)
â@@DavysFlicks Yep, good point that. I agree and disagree with all you guys. But love the show. We all have our own views.
I 100% agree with Dan, a force awakens is just the same as a watered down âa new hopeâ
Definitely the 1st one that comes to mind is Rob Zombie's butchery of Halloween. Came out of the theater going what the f...!!!! Never mess with a masterpiece. And in a moment of pure masochism I actually went and saw his Halloween II. What the bloody hell was I thinking!!! I got just what I deserved!
definitely Kenn.
I actually thought the first one was " ok" just because of the Michael backstory. The 2nd one was AWFUL though. Biggest turd ever has to be Halloween Ends. Absolutely dreadful
â@@nealandrus6666They actually sort of gave the backstory in the original with the extra scenes that were included for the network television release. Zombie should've never messed with a classic. All he did was make it bloodier. The original is my favorite horror movie of all-time as well as my 4th favorite movie, in general, of all-time. I truly liked Ends. It brought a new slant into the franchise. It's like my 5th favorite of the series. 6 and Kills are the real dogs to me outside of Zombie's crap.
@@kennbrown4638 wow I never saw the TV release version, I need to track that down! And yeah I am a fanatic as far as the first Halloween goes. I just thought Myers having a side kick was just too silly to believe, and yes I thought Halloween Kills was bad as well. The only decent one was the first part of the trilogy.
@@nealandrus6666 Yeah, when they brought it to network television they edited out some of it leaving the film short for a two hour time slot so they went back and shot additional scenes. These scenes were part of the bonus features on more than one dvd release.
no way is aliens 3 better than 2
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
I was a university student when the TV show came out. I cannot tell you how popular it was. The books were popular. The radio show was popular. What happened to the movie? I am not angry, just disappointed.
Good show gentlemen , enjoyed it . đ
Halloween Ends pissed me off so bad. Was in a rage at how much it sucked.
Most of the Halloween movies, of any era, suck.
Itâs legitimately one of the worst âhorrorâ films ever made. 100%.
What did you think of Halloween Kills?
@@ilj1259 it was ok. Not great not terrible.
same here!!! Horrendous film
I wish you guys didnt feel like you have to rush through these episodes. I could listen to these for 3 hours plus! The longer the better!
Some eps could be longer - I don't think we did any service to Hammer's Draculas in one hour because of people's schedules. But overall...YT algorithms tell you when people tune out, so an hour to 90 for a panel is pretty optimum. Solo? 20mins tops, bit longer if there's stuff to show. Kinda sad it operates like that but if you don't meet the algorithm, it doesn't promote you, your growth slows etc etc.
I've done plenty of vids on my channel I want to keep talking on, but YT almost punish you for it. THey don't take die-hard cult fans into account!
Also, keep in mind we do these episodes at night, when we could be either spending time with family, going to sleep...or watching films we need to discuss for the next episode. So 90 minutes is kind of pushing it for us.
...or have dogs getting uneasy on the other side of our door.
Thanks for the responses fellas. This all makes sense!
For the SOT crew it goes too long but for fans like me it could go on forever! All the better to listen to while running.
Everything Everywhere All At Once also rustled my jimmies. I know a lot of people loved it, but the cheesy sentimentality, childish sense of humour and an overall sense of desperately wanting to be liked just totally missed me.
Hated this movie. I could not wait for it to end.
Liked it but totally understand
I loved it. One if the greatest movies ever BUT definitely not for everyone. It went right over a lot of peoples heads.
@@charlesrambeau519 I think it went *under* a lot of peopleâs heads.
Same. Thought it was overrated
I love the crew but actually my favorite Monster's Den episodes are the early ones when Pete was going solo. They reminded me that it can be a wonderful way "to see" the film when someone is telling you the plot in their own words.Felt like I was a kid in the school yard again.
The channel is about 20 times bigger now because of changes like that. If Pete did it all himself? You'd have a tenth of the content, if he even kept it going.
James I'm not saying I want those times back but they're still my favorite episodes.
Hi Juha, I also liked the early ones and I also enjoyed the triad of Pete, Chris Alo and the much missed Rich Catino reading off Wikipedia đ€Ł
Men in Black: International (2019)
My wife and I are very easily pleased. We love Matthew Broderick in "Godzilla". My wife calls it "a pizza on a rainy afternoon movie". We love the last Star Wars trilogy. Daisy Ridley is great. The trilogy (for us) is the journey of her character. We love all of the Star Trek movies. I cannot remember an episode of Dr Who that we both did not like. Enjoying things you watch has improved the quality of our life and we enjoy most things.
However....we went to see "Men in Black: International" in a movie theater in southern Thailand. We really love the original Men in Black trilogy. What could go wrong? After watching the movie we walked out of the cinema in silence and my wife turned to me and said, "What was that?"
9:10 George Lucas keeps on tweaking that Star Trek đ
Well, hey, JJ and Kurtzman have no interest in Star Trek and tried to ruin that! SO why not? ;)
Love this show. It might be difficult for Monsters Den as horror fans tend to be quite open-minded, but a cool topic (if it hasn't been done) could be "Films I love/respect but are a difficult sell to other people" so films like Last House on the Left.. another one would be "Local Hero," which isn't horror but is 40 years old today, and I will never pass up the opportunity to praise that film.
Classic episode guys!! You all Rock!
For me, I will never forget the feeling of betrayal I felt when I first saw the Star Wars sequels.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015), The Last Jedi (2017), and The Rise of Skywalker (2019).
I was so pissed off and confused sitting in the theater. I walked out of there and was completely pissed off....and hated all those movies and characters!!
....and what they did to Luke Skywalker.
Fack Rian j. And jarjar Abraham's....I will never watch another one of their piece of crap movies!!! Worst directors ever!!!!
Long live Luke Skywalker!!
Dude i feel your pain i came out of force awakens raging!!!! đ đ đ đ đ đ đ
Whatâs funny is that David picked the 2 movies I would have picked and pretty much said what I wouldâve said lol
Alien vs Predator. I knew it would suck but I actually felt robbed.
I skipped it during the theatrical run due to poor word of mouth and finally saw it on cable. Ugh. They took two of the coolest movie monsters ever and turned them into bland video game characters.
And the second one was even worse....and hard to see anything!
The big one for me was Avengers Endgame, between Fat Thor, Pussy Hulk, Iron Man dying, Old Ass Captain America, the lazy time travel solution, after the awesome Infinity War, this was such a letdown.
Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull
The Last Jedi
Rise of Skywalker
The Force Awakens
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
The Hobbit Trilogy
Blair Witch
Halloween Ends
Pete, love your shows...
The Happening - I was angry when I left the theater, like I'd been swindled.
I appreciate it now for the comic masterpiece it is.
I havnât been to the ââpicturesââ for many years but the last pile of shite I remember being forced to go see was Croc. Dundee 2, that was awful. Thank you fellas for another good long episode of The Monsterâs Den, once the highlight of my week and now of myâŠ.fortnight.
King was very subdued tonite. Disagree with Dan on Kong - if his point was just "trim half the opening in New York"? Fine. But the stuff on the island was spot on. Why did Pete and Chris pay to see Godzilla? It was clearly a dud beforehand. Jamie spot on for Firefox. Half the film just watching Eastwood sit in a cockpit. Davey nailed exactly the issues with superhero and Star Wars franchises - interchangeable characters and ridiculously convoluted crossovers.
Cause that's what Godzilla fans do! Only in this instance, it backfired.
Saw Evil Dead Rise last night. It was legit. Great kills and the gore was turned up rather high.
Love the Highlander. However, when the Scotsman on the panel expresses his dislike for the film, you have to respect that.
Jason X has probably my favorite kill in the series;
Jason dunks that womans face in liquid nitrogen and than shatters it.
My brother-in-law worked on the Village... ha ha
Roger Ebertâs review of Escape from LA was thumbs up, if I remember correctly. I have never watched it though. Should pick it up on streaming one day.
I did a review on the 4K on my channel...don't tell the others!!!
@@DavysFlicks We know đ
@@craigkaminski Hey.....look over there!
Donât put yourself through itâŠtake it from me itâs terrible
If you liked/loved the first, be prepared to be massively disappointed. The only thing it has in common with Escape from New York is Snake Pliskin.
As an 8 year old kid in 1981, I loved seeing Condorman in the theater----but I saw Black Hole in the theater too that year, so I'm with you there on that opinion.
Very good episode guys - reminds me of the prog seat episode on worst prog albums as you always have conflicts of interests. Very good
Next Curse Of The Collector is gonna be similiar!
Great show as usual - always excited for a new Monster's Den! You guys are spot on with the Marvel stuff lately ... it's just too much. They took what was a cool idea of linking those first few films with the Avengers movie, and just drove it into the ground. It was getting difficult enough to make sure you saw all of the movies to stay up to date, but then they introduced the TV shows into the mix ... then came the movies that took place prior to the first few (i.e. Capt Marvel, Black Widow) and then this multi-verse BS... I'm at the point of just throwing in the towel on the whole thing. As far as the topic of the show - the only one that came to mind that none of you mentioned was the Lost In Space film from 1998. I had grown up watching the reruns of the original show and just loving it. When they announced the movie with the usually reliable likes of Gary Oldman & William Hurt (not to mention the foxy Heather Graham), I was all in. But sakes alive, it was completely awful. And funnily enough it seems to have been erased from existence .. unlike many of the ones you guys discussed, I literally NEVER randomly encounter it on TV. And for the best, I'd say.
oh, man. i forgot about that Lost In Space flick. it sucked! the original show was a childhood favorite.
How does Chris Alo feel about Alien 3? đ€
I was hyped for "The Garbage Pail Kids Movie" when I went to see it at age five. I think that was when I first learned that things could be bad.
The main problem I had with that one wasn't the lame and unfunny plot, the bad acting or the gross-out humor (which can be funny if done right), but the fact that it was SO. DAMN. BORING! I mean, NOTHING happens in this movie!! What a crapfest.
Have you done a show about films you hated at first but grew to love? I was SO PISSED after seeing "The Empire Strikes Back" in 1980.
The darker tone put me off, but what really got me mad was the half-finished story ending. That had not been done before (other than Bakshi's horrid LOTR" - that pissed me off, too!)
I was calling it "The Empire Eats Bucks". Yes it is may be my favorite SW film nowadays.
We did a topic like that a while back
I can churn some butter lol đ
If you guys like Rogue One you will love Andor. Amazing show! Itâs like Star Wars meets The Wire. Itâs a slow burn though so you have to stick with it.
I loved rogue one but didnât like andor at allâŠbut then again I donât like any of the Disney Star Wars stuff other than rogue one I would like them to update the Tarkin fx though
@@brewt1mer why didn't you like it? It definitely starts off slow.
Yeah I loved Andor. At first it didn't interest me much (a show about a character from one of the movie spin-offs?) and the first 1-2 episodes were setting things up, but it won me over with it's great acting, political intrigue, character-driven drama and a good cast. While I enjoy the fun escapist fantasy of Star Wars with rebels vs empire and alien monsters, I can appreciate something different like they did here.
It definitely made up for the disappointing Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi shows.
Craig mentioned Moonraker.I know a lot of Bond fans like to shit on that one.But its actually my favorite in the series.
One reason is I have good memories of that day,Being in the back seat of my Dads Buick on a sunny Summer afternoon,stopping by the Woolworth to get candy(we never paid concession stand prices at this particular cinema)before the movie.
I also remember going to that same Woolworth weeks later and getting a bunch of packs of Moonraker trading cards.
I grew up on the Roger Moore movies,so he's always been my favorite Bond.
Too Bad Timothy Dalton didn't stick around.
And no Davy,I didn't like Die Another Day.I did like the idea of 007 being imprisoned and M not being able to help.
I have not seen any of the Craig movies.Did Blofeld ever come back?I haven't seen him since the first few minutes of For Your Eyes Only.
My favorite Roger Moore era Bond film! (Definitely the best Bond sdtrk. as well!).
I grew up in Beaver County. There are WAY worse places in PA and certainly in the country and in the world. Columbus Ohio for one.
Pirates Of The Caribbean number 2.
I didn't like it and I don't remember why but I do remember people grumbling as we walked out saying
"what the hell was that?"
Pirates 3 never got my attention.
Great Show! I'm with Dan on Jackson's "Kong" I felt like I had sat through it TWICE by the end of the film (CGI= no respect for physics). Don't think I was EVER more pissed than after seeing "Alien 3". "Blair Witch": I couldn't believe it was a theatrical release! Regarding Superhero Movie fatigue: It's more CRAP superhero movie fatigue! There has not been good superhero content since "Endgame".
Wow!
I had completely forgotten Condorman!
I saw it at the Independence Square Cinema.Well..I enjoyed it more than I did Herbie Goes Bananas.
Craig and Chris,I am around the same age(being born in 1971)Did either of you see the boxing Kangaroo movie,Matilda?
I saw that at the theater,and enjoyed it.
Pete! I LOVED JASON X. Most fun Jason movie since 6. Sure, it was preposterous, but that is the point. SEQUEL! And, I don't say that often.
I watched this 4 months a go,and don't remember if anyone mentioned either APV movies or Predators or The Predator?
Easy...ALIEN 3. Opening Friday night, 7pm. We walk out & there's a line for the 10pm show. People are looking at us, kinda smiling. Mostly, I didn't make eye contact. The 2-3 people I did look at...I just shook my head.
Itâs shit.
David is đŻđŻđŻ on the sequel trilogy.
For me it's without a doubt and by far Blair Witch Project. Remember seeing the trailers and thinking wow that looks like it sucks , then you had all these reviews and reports saying how horrifying it was , hell it was even on the news how some viewers were terrified , passed out in the theaters.Thought well this is obviously over the top and all but there must be a scene or 2 that's quite something so went to see it with my brother and WTF ,wanted to leave after a bit but was obstinate there has to be something I thought...nope complete shit! Never been so angry at a movie , I'm still angry ,plus it started the whole found footage trend. Going to stop now the vein in my forehead's gonna pop.
Should've been called Nothing Happens: The Movie.
Halloween Ends
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Thor: Love and Thunder
X-Men: Apocalypse
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Fantastic Four(2015)
Hands down, 'The Last Jedi'. A total POS movie that I will never watch again and pretty much was the final nail in the SW coffin for me.
And Davy's take of preferring Alien 3 over Aliens.....woof, terrible take.
He has awful taste
@@brewt1mer That's funny as I've read 2000AD since I was a kid. Your avatar suggests you share that awful taste! Whoops!
Jamie is spot on about No Time to Die. I'm a die-hard Bond fan and, like Jamie, I like the formula. I will admit though, I didn't leave pissed off. I caught wind of the spoilers beforehand and never bothered to watch it...and never will. As far as I'm concerned Spectre was the final Daniel Craig movie. And if they pull anymore garbage out of their behinds for possible future Bond films just to "shock fans" and make headlines rather than good movies, I'll stick with Spectre as the last official Bond movie. I can go back and happily watch any of the others a hundred more times.
How can you be a die hard Bond fan and say you donât care if Bondâs a black woman? Just make up a new character if you feel the need for that. Bondâs a white dude. Deal with it!
@@fattymcfatso1083 This is my argument every time. I remember there being talk when Die Another Day came out that they were thinking about a spin-off based on the Jinx character because they were so sure the movie and her character would be a huge hit. Then when it turned out even Bond die-hards hated the movie and especially her character, they tried to wipe that awful idea from memory.
I guarantee the idea of a black, female 007 would be met with just as much derision since they were essentially trying to make Jinx a...wait for it...black, female 007. The media will fawn again while the fans and likely most everyone else will avoid it. It's amazing how these morons can't learn from their past mistakes. It's OK for 007 to be a white, British man. Why is that so hard to understand?
Chris is right on. Alien and Alien 2 are amazing movies, some of the best films of all time. Alien 3 is AWFUL. Thank you for summing up my feelings perfectly lol
I have to agree with Davey about Alien 3. Will take it over Aliens every time.
Yeah, I really dislike the "well, one was scary...so let's have a hundred!" mentality. Turned a tense, atmosphetic film into a dumb shooter. Alien 3 was a brilliant reset and I'm not sure how anyone can mix the characters up when they intentionally cast people with faces you can't mix up from Charles Dance to Pete Posthelwaite.
@@DavysFlicks Alien 3 was so brilliant that even David Fincher disowned it. Sorry, but I think this franchise went worse with every new instalment.
@@karlkarlos3545 And Woody Allen thinks Annie Hall and Manhattan are two of his worst. Hitchcock hated Rope. We don't need Van Gogh's opinions on his paintings to decide if we like them or not. The artist's job stops when it's released.
@@DavysFlicks Those two Woody movies are great---he apparently forgot about Everyone Says I Love You, Scenes From A Mall (Christ, that one was AWFUL), Celebrity and Curse of the Jade Scorpion.
@@DavysFlicks I respect your opinion Davy, but I have to disagree here. I don't see how Aliens is a "dumb shooter" when it only features three major setpieces in the entire film and the movie takes a full hour before re-introducing the creatures. They spend time developing Ripley's trauma from the original, her chemistry with the supporting marines, her relationship with Newt and the new biology for the creatures. The way I see it is that Cameron knew that he couldn't top the surprise of seeing the Alien creature for the first time, so he went with a new approach by making an action movie. And since the good guys this time were highly-armed marines, they had to do something new with the title creatures themselves so I thought bringing in more of them and introducing a big "boss" alien (The Queen) was a genius move.
I respect Alien 3 for what it tries to do and it has its moments (Weaver's performance and a great cast of British actors), but for me, it ultimately falls short of the first two because I just don't care much about any of the supporting characters (they're played by great actors, but the characters have no depth to them), the overbearing nihilism and they don't do anything new with the creature itself. I also can't get over the way they write out Hicks and Newt at the beginning because it makes no sense with what was established with the alien lifecycle in the first two.
Godzilla '98 may not be a great "Godzilla" movie, but it is entertaining and good for what it is
Chaotic mess
The Dark Knight Rises, Suicide Squad, Kick Ass 2 for me.
Kick ass 2 is a great one. I remember being angry walking out of that one. It was so bad I felt insulted as a fan of the first one.
Ugh! I TOTALLLY forgot Dark Knight Rises!
The mention of Rogue One reminds me. The Andor series on Disney plus is the best Star wars series by far.
Anything WOKE you should be extremely concerned about.
So what exactly is "woke"? I hear trolls use this term on every comment section, yet they never give a clear response to what it means. It basically boils down to "waahhhh too many people of color in this movie" or t"here's a strong woman or LGBT character which is promoting an agenda" or whatever nonsense idiots whine about these days.
Blair Witch Project. I felt ripped off and everyone in the theater felt the same. I thought there was going to be a riot. Man that sucked.
Yeah and when I meet someone that tells me how terrifying it is because it's a true story I just wanna slap 'em behind the head
I feel like there's a lack of good original content in the film industry these days. Directors and filmmakers are just milking popular movies (with sequels/remakes) for their own benefit because they don't have anything better to do.
Wanted to add another point to Davy saying Aliens is the same movie as Alien in that Alien is not entirely original itself. It's just a riff on the 50's sci-fi movie, It Came From Outer Space and Jaws (I believe they even pitched it as Jaws in space during production). It was the direction, cast, script, execution of the story and H.R. Giger designs that helped give it a new spin and made it a classic.
As I mentioned in my other comments, Aliens does a lot of things new as we see the themes of motherhood (Ripley and the Queen Alien defending their "daughters" be it Newt or the Hive), her distrust of Bishop and the commentary on Vietnam. The alien creatures themselves are given a new biology update and they're still the same dangerous intelligent creatures from the original (see: the scene where they sneak from the ceiling or when the Queen silently tells her soldiers to stand down during the standoff with Ripley), so I'm not seeing how it's a simple mindless action fest.
If anything it's Alien 3 that's just a retread of the original as it's doing the same setup - a bunch of people getting picked off by the creature in a enclosed setting - only this time we don't care about the supporting cast as much since they're all one-dimensional criminals and murderers. And they don't do anything new with the creature this time either!
OOoo my god I can't stop laughing !! Only 4 minutes in and Chris has already presented us with a quotable t-shit " Hate fueled sleepiness" .... ohh my god I'm dying... Here I thought I was always feeling tired because I'm getting old (56yrs old), or maybe I'm vitamin deficient . Turns out it's just a case of " Hate fueled sleepiness"
In the UK the first Evil Dead was a banned 'video nasty' so I didn't see it for years. Evil Dead II ran in my local Cinema when it came out and it was one of the first horror films I saw at the cinema. I loved the humour and me and my friends went to see it a few times. When the original eventually got a release and I saw it .... I didn't enjoy it as much.
"Dunkirk' was one of the biggest disappointments of my movie-viewing life. If it hadn't been highly rated it wouldn't have been so bad. I just wasn't able to suspend my disbelief whatsoever.
Jamie Laszlo brought up one i rememberedâŠmy mom and i were the only two people watching Lady in the WaterâŠthat was terrible
Terry Gilliam's "Brazil"
Let me explain. You are talking about leaving the theater feeling angry. This movie is fantastic and the ending that Terry Gilliam wanted was perfect. However, when I saw it first, I thought that it was going to be a happy ending. It just broke my heart. In fact I seem to remember that I shouted "No" in the cinema. So much so that even though this is an absolute gem of a movie I have never been able to watch this again.
So I got angry because of the movie ending I needed, not the ending that I wanted.
I've only ever seen it with the downer ending(s)! Never watched the "Love Conquers All" cut
â@FlicksNPicks if you don't want a great movie but super downer ending, don't watch The Mission with Robert De Niro.
John Wick Chapter 4, No Time to Die, The Lobster, Star Wars sequel movies, Suicide Squad, Transformers Revenge of the Fallen. I could go on.
Totally agree with Peter Jacksonâs King Kong. The 1933 version told the same story in a brisk 100 min. Jacksonâs version at a laborious 188 min. The best cgi in the world will never overcome a plodding, overwrought story.
I'm pretty selective about the movies I watch in theaters so I don't often go home angry, but I can definitely think of some that really ticked me off.
The Desolation of Smaug. As soon it launched into that idiotic Scooby Doo chase through the mountain between Smaug and the Dwarves, I was done. I've never actually walked out in the middle of any movie, but that's the closest I've ever come.
The Last Jedi. I grew up on Star Wars, and even through the prequel trilogy I never gave up hope of it becoming great again. I hated Last Jedi so much I haven't watched another minute of Star Wars material since.
Honeymoon in Vegas. This is my earliest memory of walking out angry at the end of a movie (think I was about 13 or 14 when it came out). Everything about it felt it was specially designed to push my berserk buttons.
Get Him to the Greek. This is very much not my style of comedy but my sister and brother-in-law wanted to see it and paid for my ticket, so I couldn't say no. They were laughing their heads off; I was mostly just rolling my eyes and waiting for it to be over.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Practically every change they made to the original story was a change for the worse, and don't even get me started on Depp's take on Wonka.
Alien 4,5 and Prometheus
The Last Crusade
If it weren't for Alo, this show would have been 3 hours long.
Quentin Tarantino: Could not stand Inglourious Basterds and everyone loved it. I don't think he's made a good film since then. I was just off of knee surgery and was on pain killers so I watch IB to pass some time. It pissed me off so much I had to take more pain killers. I don't advise this, btw. đ
Hi guys. I agree w Dan, Craig and whoever else picked Star Trek The Motion Picture. A total bore. And it should have been called The Leisure Suit Movie. I was 14 years old and the worlds biggest âTrekkieâ when this movie was released. I had - and still have - every Star Trek book, toy, magazine and whatever there was in 1978-79. The movie was cool for a few minutes seeing my beloved characters return but the thrill ended very quickly. The plot was basically a remake of The Changeling episode from season two.
Anyway Wrath of Khan saved the entire franchise. Excellent action scenes. Great uniforms. Better energy level and of course I was brought to tears at the end. The only other original series movie that sucked was number 5 Final Frontier. By then it was the end of the decade and it seemed like they were getting ready to pack it in. The final movie w the entire original cast - Undiscovered Country - was a nice farewell. Great action oriented movie with funny moments and heart. Smart decision to feature the primary adversaries : The Klingons.
Star Trek: The Motionless Picture
@@pjw5328 lol
I love monsters den i think chris is john belushi reincarnated. Whata funny dude
Wonder boys is a fantastic film and book. Written by Michael Chabon who wrote "the Amazing of kavalier and clay," a fictional account of the creation of Superman comics
Hey. Thanks for tying it into the theme of the Monster's Den for me!
I 've liked his writingin the past....but he used up the goodwill with what he did to Star Trek with his awful take on Picard. It's the lowest Star Trek ever got. Thank God Terry Matalas got the big chair eventually
@@davidbingham6663 For the record, I enjoyed the movie.
@Davy's Cinema Flicks & Music Picks I like wonderboys, kavalier and clay and a bizarre book called "the Yiddish policeman's union" an alternate history where European Jews are given Alaska instead of Israel after WW2
@@davidbingham6663 That was literally said in the video too...
Lol Alien 3 didn't have any CGI alien in it whatsoever! It was a rod puppet on a green screen. It was just super rushed in post production so it looked like ass!
Jordan Peeles NOPE. What a load of rubbish!
I liked The Village.
So DavidâŠyou donât like Aliens because you say itâs the same movie since it takes place on the same planet that a small part of the first one does, (which by the way, you could then say every movie that takes place on earth is basically the same movie now) even though there is no other similarities about them. Yet you do like Evil Dead 2âŠeven though it is EXACTLY the same movie as the first one?
Also, The Last Jedi is top tier Star Wars. Some days even better than Return of the Jedi.
Jamie means Highlander 2 The Gathering. The Quickening was the subtitle given to a VHS release of the series pilot and a few other episodes spliced together. Thatâs what Dan was thinking of.
That Earth notion is quite the false equivalence! Distinct different though between your franchise comparisons- I'd watch Evil Dead 2 and not need to watch Evil Dead 1. I'm never not gonna watch Alien - the best of the films. So if I'm watching the best of the franchises? It's ED2 and Alien. I don't hate Aliens - I just don't get any value from it. It trades tension and atmosphere for explosions and quips. Alien 3 gets back to the grimy, depressing universe of the first film. And - this is classic sequel nonsense - "one monster was terrifying...let's have a hundred in the next!"
And btw, we only have a few seconds to rebut, so it wasn't gonna be a discusion on air but surev- there's also even minutiae that are the same..if we go into the weeds:.
Opens with Sigourney Weaver in cryo sleep waking up.
Grunts eating is how we meet the cast.
A drop ship lands on the same planet.
An advance party investigates the same Engineer's wreck (Newt's family/John Hurt n co)
They get a facehugger for their trouble
Both have a secret plant of the company who wants a Xenomorph for the company.
Both have androids who get wrecked.
Ripley runs about with a flamethrower
She uses it to torch one of her "friends" cocooned.
Minimum safe difference must be reached by Ripley
Not really dead, a Xenomorph secretly is on board the escaping ship..
Ripley suits up to defeat a xenomorph
Xenomorph is blown out into space.
Ripley ends both in cryosleep and with the same speech.
So...yeah! Pretty similiar even in plot structure I'd say.
@@DavysFlicks That is quite the damning list! I watched your Tull review by the way - very fun!
@@DavysFlicks Hey heyâŠnot need to get all huffy puffy. I have actually come around to your perspective. I have always despised the movie White Chicks. Now I have come to realize that is because itâs a direct rip off of Citizen Kane since they both take place on earth. đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđđ€Łđđ€Łđđ€Łđđ€Łđ€Łđđ€Łđ€Łđđđ€Łđđ€Ł
But seriously. I understand what you mean. It is an action movie vs a horror movie which was the first one. However some of those points were going to in the movie regardless. I mean Weaver wakes up from cryo sleep in the third one too. And of course there was going to be a face hugger attaching an unsuspecting victim at the beginning. That was the whole point to establishing a colony on the planet. The company wanted an Alien to weaponized and that is how they were going to do it. Still donât know which I would call my favorite. Probably the first. However, aside from a few similar story points that you mentioned, we are still talking about two very different styles and even genres of film.
But you like what you like and we think what we think. If you donât get as much out of Aliens that you do from 3, who am I to argue. Not like my opinion has any more value than yours does or Vice verse. I just like to mess with people. I know you would have explained things in more detail if given the chance. I just saw an opportunity and wanted to mess with youâŠđ. Take care.
@@DavysFlicks side note. I am with you on TLJ. Love it.
@@kurtemeigh Huffy? I answered you and elaborated!
Wouldn't keep the White Chicks joke in the set though - It was probably funnier in your head - but keep working on it! You might have some material there some time! ;)
The one of only movies I remember ever waking out of was "Teen Wolf"". I hated that movie and I haven't bothered to watch since.
Anyone attending the Carolina Chainsaw Massacre Fest in Greensboro,NC this Saturday (May 6th)?
The Predator. I left with that âpunch in the gutâ feeling like the wife I donât have cheated on me with my best friend. A fine representation of what cinematically shitting the bed looks like. As Iâve come around on the AVP films, The Predator remains to be the sole embarrassing uncle you donât want to invite over because heâs touchy of the Predator films. God I hate that movie. Biggest let down Iâve ever felt from a film, even after seeing Dickshark 5x. As King Chris or Jamie would say, âFuck this movie.â
Predator; Predators; The Predator - Iâm confused
I would say Jamie and I have opposite tastes in films :).
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Great video. My worst theatrical experience has to be Halloween Kills. Was super hyped for it but ended up leaving the theater wondering what I had just witnessed. Terrible movie but one that I constantly try to enjoy but so far no luck.
Honestly I never even liked the original.
What time did this stream? I stayed up for it, but gave up around 11 PM EST.
Pete and Chris were taping right after as their schedules were crazy, so later than usual, midnight ESTish.
@@DavysFlicks Thanks for the response and information!
Two I do remember is Ali, awful boring movie, the thin red line, garbage.
Spielberg's West Side Story... What a pointless reimagine of the original. A classic that should have been left alone.
It was a bit of a chore to get through.
In a perfect world, they would have just left Star Wars alone after the original three. It's now become a bloated mess like the Marvel Films.
For me it's easy. SPAWN!!! What the hell was that?
Just thought of another one
The third Mad Max movie.
Terminator Dark Fate (2019)!! They killed little John in the beginning!! It was a big "Fuck you" from Cameron for me and just ruined my childhood memories :(
This would have been on my list for sure, but I didn't see it in the theater.