#12 | Meeting other Vessels at Sea
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- čas přidán 17. 01. 2023
- Crossing other vessels at sea can end up getting a little stressful at times, I thought a few notes on things I consider and observe, might add to the community’s knowledge. Anything to avoid getting the dreaded 5 blast, ‘Wake Up Signal’, right?
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"technically!". Always "technically". Your real world assessment of crossing is perfect.
The intersting part of this clip is judging whether or not there is a collision risk.
It is something I was taught at 8 years of age when I first started steering boats.
It could be done with radar or a hand bearing compass, but it is much more fundamental.
It applies to boats and cars and aircraft in crossing situations.
If you look at the fishing boat and look at the clouds in the background, you will see that the fishing boat is moving relative to the background.
In this case it is moving from the left to the right. Towards the stern of the yacht.
That means it will pass astern of the yacht.
If it was moving from right to left in relation to the background, that is towards the yachts bow, it will pass ahead.
The slower it is moving, the closer you will pass.
If it is stationary in relation to the clouds in the background then they are going to hit!
This is why on the road, cars "come out of nowhere!. They are stationary against the background until the last moment.
The cargo boats was standing still relative to the clouds in the backgroung until you altered course.
PS" I like your video
I like the point you made about making YOUR intentions clear to the commercial vessel and making the courteous decision. But as you say if you do that, you must make your intensions clear to the other vessel.
Most of us "old school" sailors try to be polite.
Unfortunately, it is something some of the "newer" large power boat drivers don't always seem to get!
its always good to clarify what to do in real world situations. having worked as a commercial skipper many of them know or understand very little about yachts or their limitations
this has been my experience also, just another reason for me to stay well clear if at all possible:)
Good decisions and everyone has a nice day
"I'm becoming too Canadian." LOL!
I’ve also started leaving my red ‘protest’ flag at home when racing and instead now deploy a Maple leaf themed ‘apology’ flag,
Music to my ears!
More unsolicited tips:
Take the time to volume match your dialogues. Overall your voice levels are a bit low on this one. Just a rough boost and match by ear in your video edited software will make a world of difference. Muchos Gracias!
Thanks for the tips!
Wondering why your autopilot is so noisy? Thanks.
The problem with your monologue is that it may add to the mistaken belief that sailboats are always the stand on vessels. As you know they are required to give way when the power vessel is in a traffic separation scheme ( which is quite likely in the channel) as well as in several other situations. I haven’t sailed in the Channel for many many years but I would think that calling them on the appropriate traffic channel would always get a response especially if you’ve got their name off the AIS.
The fishing vessel with nets out has right of way over a sailing vessel.
There is no need to call the fishing vessel as there is no risk of collision.
See my comment later.
The sailing vessel can tack at any time should a collision risk arise.
Additionally the fishing boat appears to alter course slightly as a courtesy.
Once again, no risk of collision.
The most destructive fishing practice ever developed, especially if they're bottom dragging. Indiscriminate with thousands in by-catch that has to be dumped, dead, without those by-catch numbers being removed from any else's quota. Should be banned. A hook and line inshore fishery is the only one that is sustainable.
don't you call 'prospects' up on VHF just to understand their intentions and their awareness of your needs?
Good question, in reality you start out doing that and then quickly realize VHF16 is actually not filled (at sea) with various vessels taking their leave of each other, no more than drivers at a roundabout have their windows down discussing it with each other :)
As yachts we get caught out because sometimes we -theoretically- have the right of way, but the truth is the rules were never really intended to include 100ft long motorboats weighing 100’s of thousands of tons, giving way too scrap of epoxy or wood that can spin on a (relative) penny. I mostly assume ‘Tonnage has the right of way’. it’s very much less stressful!
If I do have to force my rights due to racing or limitations of the sail configuration (spinnaker etc) that’s when I do make contact or at least attempt to; about 25% of the time they pretend they can’t hear 🤣
@@CSMtheMariner I believe there is great confusion about "right of way".
There is no "right of way" concept in COLREG as it is in road traffic regulations.
There are "stand on " and "give way" vessels and both have responsibility to avoid collision. in their roles they have their responsibilities.
At first glance "stand on" might seam same as having "right of way", but if you think more about it - it's not. give-way and stand-on are like "roles" which vessels take when crossing each other, but both are responsible to avoid collision by taking actions as situation requires.
@@CSMtheMariner I agree with you.
And even if you are racing it is un-likely that getting very close to a large commercial vessel will do you any good at all.
Although I have to admit I have used them tactically to "wipe off" another competitor.
Usually they are bad news and best to give a wide berth to.
I once sailed a regatta where there was a large ship moored to a rounding mark.
The first lap we all sailed down the side and crossed the stern as close as we dared, some healing their boats to avoid the stern overhang.
The next lap the first five boats sailed down the side, un-aware that the ship had just dropped the mooring, the rest of the fleet rounded the mooring bouy as the "leaders" crossed the stern, just as the ship went into forward gear.
They were pushed hundreds of meters down wind.
Hardly fair, but that was the luck of the day.
Avoid large ships!