Ruthlessness | EPIC The Musical | Animatic (HOOLIGAN REACTION)
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The infant at the beginning, Odysseus did end up killing him. The cyclops is poseidon's son, but not the baby. The reason anni chose to depict him holding the child during that line was to show him how to do things right, he should have killed the cyclops just like he killed that baby at the beginning. But he started getting soft, so he made the wrong choice.
Yep, Poseidon is the creator of horses and is connected because of the trojan horse.
Poseidon has lots of sons. He doesn’t have any attachment to them other than through pride. Odysseus harming his son and taunting him with his name, address, and social security number was an insult to him.
Also, Poseidon demanded an apology from Odysseus and Odysseus offered excuses. Maybe Poseidon would have shown mercy… not likely, but Odysseus didn’t even apologize.
Actually it doesn’t matter because note that an “apology” to a Greek is giving a defense for why you did something. Odysseus did just that. But Poseidon’s very next line is essentially calling him an idiot to even think that an apology would quell the wrath of the God of the Seas
The baby was not the cyclops, it was the son of Troy's Prince Hector. He dropped it from a wall of Troy. The cyclops is the son of Poseidon, he held the baby because he wanted to remind Odysseus "You killed an innocent baby but couldn't even kill my son and left him blind?" It's a big disrespect in his eyes.
OMG YOU CAUGHT THE “remember me” that’s what Odysseus said to the Cyclops. He also told the cyclops “I am your darkest moment” which Poseidon taunted him with in turn.
Glad you watched this version. It is my favorite but you should totally check out the other one by Gigi.
I respect that you're making a distinction about the differences of a deity's and mortal's values of what is right or wrong. Fun fact, that kind of discussion was what got Socrates sentenced to death by drinking Hemlock poison weirdly enough.
Anyway, long post if you're up for reading it:
The Gods were outright with what they're about. In "Keep Your Friends Close," Aeolus was singing "the ends justify the means". Only the result matters.
Athena said the cyclops is "still a threat". Zeus said in that dueling harmony in his replies, "(The baby) would burn your house and home / He'll go wherever you go / THE GODS WILL HAVE HIM KNOW (because the Trojan war was a weird civil war between the gods too)... The blood on your hands you won't lose, all you can choose is whose."
Mortals are often portrayed in these stories as those who have lost their way and how they suffered for their decisions because they're imperfect. The Gods aren't much better, but they're forces of nature and the world that eventually even out out of necessity, so they can still be decent guides in matters of how to live. Whereas humans can and do take things too far with consequences that are much more permanent for them. (Look up the guy who hit on Zeus' wife).
Odysseus is taking the "I don't want to kill anymore" too far, and others are paying the ultimate price for it. He is their general, their livelihoods are his responsibility regardless of sentiment. That was the point Athena was trying to drill into him but wasn't getting through anymore. Moreso, he's their KING and he's acting anything but one because he let discipline degrade too far. He embraced the "these are my brothers," and not "these are my people, but also my subjects". The treasure rumor was supposed to be crushed, not met with the weak "we'll try," from his men. No general in proper army would dare accept that as a response Athena AND Ares would be appalled by this. Those who opened the bag needed to be made an example of. Eurylocus was at fault for sowing seeds of doubt in Odysseus' command IN FRONT OF HIS MEN. Odysseus is also guilty of pride where he doxxed himself to Polyphemus, AND not accepting the guilt of hurting him despite declaring his actions proudly against a God's son.
Poseidon is ruthless, but his logic and actions were sound.
1) My son was hurt and the guy who did it wasn't even the slightest bit sorry about it. He only gave an excuse. AFTER I CAUGHT UP TO HIM AND SHOWED WHAT I COULD DO. NO MERCY.
2) He arrogantly took a moral high road, not taking to consider that my son being blinded is tantamount to a delayed suffering and death if he can't survive on his own.
3) He's going to get his people killed anyway despite trying to act all "I'll protect you" while being this pathetic. What a hypocrite.
4) Lastly, he had the nerve to escape me. My big brother Hades and little brother Zeus will never live this down, and I won't have my authority of the God of the Seas (of the Top 3 in the pantheon) ever be questioned. THIS JUST GOT EVEN MORE PERSONAL.
Baby in Poseidon arm is to mock Odysseus for ok with kill baby but not kill cyclop to mock Odysseus hypocrite
In Ancient Greece, blinding someone was considered worse than killing someone. So by blinding the cyclopes, Odysseus did something considered unforgivable
Poseidon is the creator of horses they use horse as trojan because they fake it as sacrifices as tribute for Posidon for safe trip home
Poseidon is God of the sea, horses and earthquakes.
So not many know this. But Poseidon is the father of all cyclops, he has sex with giantesses and then they have cyclops babies. So yeah, in Greek myth don't mess with the cyclops if you don't want the god of seas and earthquakes after you.
Also he takes the shape of a horse because that is his animal, much like how Athena takes the shape of an owl, or Zeus takes the shape of an eagle. They all have sacred animals.
4:52 Not just THE Cyclop. Cyclops, plural. Poseidon begat the whole race.