This scene felt so satisfying. You feel bad for Phillip that his daughter and wife view him as this soft and broken man who lost the strength to keep fighting for "the cause" when he's still plenty strong enough but along the way he gained enough wisdom to see what's actually important in life.
Yeah, I think he realized 'the cause' was bs and not worth all the death and destruction they were causing. He didn't have the same reverence for the USSR that Elizabeth did. He came to realize they weren't any better that the U.S. He started asking questions like why couldn't the USSR feed it's people when it had plenty of land like Kansas. He was disgusted when he murdered the lab assistant for what turned out to be no reason. He saw through the workers paradise bs and wondered why, if the USSR was so great and so much better, why many U.S. citizens always seemed to have plenty of everything and such a high standard of living.
It’s funny because eventually he tells Elizabeth’s this, he tells her to use her head and to ask questions to the center. And during season 6 that’s exactly what Elizabeth eventually does and she too comes to realize Phillip was right. Hence why Elizabeth pretty much got a lot of the higher ups, like Claudia, to have to run away and go until hiding.
i dont think you understood the show. they never saw him as a 'soft and broken man' as such. only as a disillusioned soviet, which in itself would produce the same kind of pity and treatment. none of what Philip's character arc involved was being a 'soft and broken man', only someone that finally saw through the propaganda. if he was still in the USSR he would have realized it a lot earlier, same with Elizabeth.
@@leafs2574 Paige saw him as soft. "I don't think I'm the same as you, Dad." She hadn't seen his arc. And she was treating him with increasing disrespect, as if she were above him -- not pity. Philip's power move in this scene did two things: to regain respect, and to tell Paige, "You have no idea what you're getting yourself into."
he really nailed the average American stereotypical dad type but behind closed doors being a ruthless KGB killer. These days, everyone thinks this is a hollywood fantasy. This is more true to life than anyone realises.
He choked the life out of a man in the back of a bus and stuffed his corpse into a corner - I believe cramming corpses into tight spaces is kinda his MO
i loved philip putting paige in her place. I was getting sick of her "You're not like us", "We live in the real world", nonsense. Like kid, you have no idea what he's done.
I am not sure she knows the entire truth either about what her parents do. They haven’t been totally transparent with her so she isn’t all to blame for her over confidence
She really doesn't know her father in this situation. Phillip has taken life since he was a kid. Nothing more dangerous than a kid that starving. She's been shielded and kept in the world only by her parents good graces. This scene proof she needs a good spanking.
What a completely necessary scene. Paige refers to "what Mom and I do", when she has no real clue what her Mom does. Paige has learned some self defense stuff; Philip and Elizabeth have years of training and experience at killing quickly, efficiently, and remorselessly with their bare hands. And there are no words needed at the end of his "visit"; he's proven his point. Powerful stuff.
Good for him. Her mother is shielding her from the reality of the job, he showed how vulnerable she really is and how silly she is to think otherwise. Feeling badass about beating nobodies in a bar .. try it on someone that can fight back.
okay but Mattahew Rhys was straight up terrifying here. I’ve always found his quiet reserve to be a little scary. You can take one look at Elizabeth and know she would straight up kill you on the spot. Even in the earlier seasons when we saw how they were trying to blend in, she always had this outwardly disdainful and dangerous arua about her. But i’ve always found that Philip could easily hide his true self behind those alias’s so well. One minute he’s the perfect “mr. gray” and the next he’s breaking your neck.
Im almost done with the series and while i find Keri's performance good there is no way she would be a secret infiltrator. She is very beautiful, incredibly skinny and has a distinct mole on her upper lip. She has a face and look that would be easy to remember regardless of the wigs she wears. Holly Taylor is also too beautiful except as a honey pot and spotter. Mat, OTOH, can disappear into the crowd. He is much more believable.
She had no idea that Philip is the stronger agent between her parents. Just because Philip doesn't have the stomach anymore, doesn't he's not the best at what they do. Last few mission would have gone much worse if he didn't help Elizabeth at the end.
no way. I always thought Elizabeth was more skilled agent in every way especially given Philip lost the stomach for it and Elizabeth had to hold it all together at the end
@Frank Castle-- Never thought this is a discussion I'd have but, yes I think Phillip was the better agent. Season 6 was Elizabeth fucking and murdering everybody in sight. But throughout the series, Phillip cultivated the better, actionable, sources. It's so well written, the writers put forth that he used so much of himself to be successful, that he just couldn't do it anymore. He was written with so much empathy that it seems like Elizabeth was just written to be his foil.
They were both highly skilled agents, but Elizabeth was better imo, all things considered. I'm sure if both Claudia and Gabriel had to pick the more steady and reliable hand, they'd go with Elizabeth. Philip was strong for a period if time, but also became too emotional that it interfered with decision-making in the field. Several of Elizabeth's missions failed season 6 because it was just her - and the missions really need 2 experienced agents.
This is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show. Philip INSTANTLY shows her that she has NO idea what it's like. How easily she can be overpowered by a properly trained male assailant. His coldness is amazing. Another Rhys performance that blows my mind. Love this show so much.
That “Please….” As he raises his hands up….my god Phillip took the gloves off with Paige that Elizabeth didn’t have the balls to do. Phillip gave Paige the reality check she needed, she’s still a rookie and thinks she’s hot shit due to her moms brain wash. He just exposed it and made her realize she isn’t all that neither is her mom.
This scene was done so well. Mathew Rhys gives an amazing performance. Paige doesn't understand just how unprepared she really is. If she had to go head to head with an experienced spy/assassin like Philip she is toast. Phillip knows this and it terrifies him. He wants to show Paige how unprepared she is. He doesn't want to hurt his daughter emotionally or physically but, he knows making her understand is more important. He understands just how deadly people in his line of work are. He has to cause a little bit of pain now to make her truly evaluate herself and the rough road she is headed down if she continues. He causes a little bit of pain in order to spare her from a lot of pain or even a gruesome death later.
The lack of respect Paige has for her father seems to be only tempered by the obvious difference in their abilities. And the look of shock on her face is really telling. Did she really think he would forget how to do something he's spent decades perfecting?
The thing is, Paige is being brainwashed by Elizabeth. She doesn't yet know the extent of what her parents have done and are capable of. When she says "You are not like us" it was pretty much ELizabeth speaking through her
It’s funny they make it seem like Phillip is “weak” or “soft” for caring about people and having emotional intelligence when it made him a far better agent. Even funnier it’s like his wife was mad at him for not wanting to have anything to do with their job. Phillip is a beast he’s just not stupid. This is WHY he didn’t want her doing what they do. He knew that to even get her to do it would 1. Require lying to his daughter about how dangerous it really is and 2. That she could be possibly killed or seriously injured. That’s why Elizabeth went behind his back and he couldn’t do anything about it because the KGB would have Elizabeth’s back.. When he said in the end that he felt like a joke he meant it.
I agree. I would have disliked Elizabeth, but Kerri Russell did such a phenomenal job it was hard not to appreciate the character. But I agree Phillip is the man. Elizabeth was still brainwashed by communist propaganda and cant grasp how Americans are after 25 years. It drove me nuts she threw him out over a one time lapse with his former girlfriend after finding out they had a son together, when she was banging a dude for 15 years, including when she was pregnant, and shit talking Phillip to the guy for 15 years. Also, yes, she is not honest with Paige about the uglier side of the job and she was gonna get herself killed after her head got blown up because she got into it with a couple drunk frat boys who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag and kicked one in the balls and ran away. What if it were, say, Larrick. She'd be dead. Phillip wants her to know what the job really is.
@@tonymoses3810 It's as if Elizabeth was serving the USSR's need by recruiting their daughter versus what was best for her. While Phillip wanted what was best for his daughter. Phillip while patriotic realized his life in the USSR sucks compared to the USA. At least he had the opportunity to be an entrepreneur versus being there all he had was misery..
2:22 You die, try again 2:33 You die, try again 2:44 You die, try again 3:19 "Okay, I do not have time to teach a baby to breathe" One of the best fight scenes in any series. Simple, cold, relentless.
I actually think that this was a bonding moment between father and daughter. Paige tried to be tough, and Philip showed her how vulnerable she was out of protectiveness. He knew that Elizabeth was being soft on her regarding their work. I think Philip just wanted Paige to be actually ready to defend herself.
One of my few frustrations with this show is that they never really followed up on this scene. I don't think they had a single scene where they spoke to each other until the finale.
Tommy Schlamme's directing is so vital to why this scene is so great. There's no quick cuts or tight framing: You get to see both of them fight in the master with Philip moves against Paige captured with such visual clarity. Ironically, it serves to underline how naive Paige is better than if it were typically shot. Fantastic.
The look on philips face when she says you’re not like us.. oh really?? As he proceeds to show her the spar training she has done with her mother doesn’t even begin to bring her on the level of of her father’s ability. Priceless.
Whew Elizabeth killing the courier was incredibly intense. Let's go to a father daughter scene with Phillip and Paige to ease the tension from that previous scene. 1:34 Nvm
I love this scene so much. It is one of those few scenes in a show that everyone wanted to happen but it also fit the plot perfectly and wasn't just pandering to the fan base.
OMG, Matthew Rhy is a brilliant actor. When he entered he looked both concerned, awkward, and menacing at the same time. Then he asked if Gwen was there, so they could talk freely presumably, but we know how the scene ends. Then he looks around and takes his jacket off, but when he looks around, you can actually see him display pride in his daughter in his facial expression. Damn.
It was condescending. She was terrible .. Elizabeth is a woman and she took out stronger fighters then her, Paige wouldn't stand a chance if facing someone who can fight and is stronger then her.
He's thinking: "your mother taught you well...well enough to not immediately die lol". Paige is smart, but she doesn't have the decades of training and trauma that made her parents who they are.
I counted three or four times where he could’ve easily broken her neck. Several times he could’ve broken her arms or shoulders. He took a full-force bite barely flinching. And that’s after years of training and stakeouts and stuff. Well, if you call sparring with her mom training. Mikhail had to go through combat training, learn how to speak, act and look American, learn to endure rape and make it look like he was loving it, while also learning to live a double life.
@@buxadonoff I think he means it. Like, "not bad for a couple of years of part time training." Elizabeth's abilities are literally superhuman given her slight frame and lack of muscle.
It does make me laugh when watching this to see how painfully Paige is out of her league. She doesn't even notice her father scanning the room and asking questions to establish a "no witness" scenario
Yeah, that 'I'm not like you' and 'You're not into what mom and I do' was so clueless and condescending that it was satisfying to see him kick her ass. She needed to learn a lesson. Great acting on his part throughout the scene, especially when he decided to show her and not just tell her how vulnerable she was. He could have killed her so easily. She thought she was such hot stuff, going on a few ops, one of which she messed up on of I remember correctly and learning some basic self defense and sucker punching a couple of guys. Most average guys, even untrained ones, that were expecting trouble that she couldn't sucker punch could have manhandled her pretty easily, let along someone big or strong or with any training. It was a good reality check.
@@Onigirli Actually I enjoyed that scene quite a bit. The Paige character had become annoying, smarmy and condescending. It was nice to see her get an attitude adjustment. It was also nice to see a fight like that end like it almost surely would. A lot of shows and movies would have had her kick his tail and him leaving humbled and in awe of her. Instead, he threw her around like a ragdoll and totally dominated her, which is what either of those frat guys would have done it they'd been sober and ready.
That look on Philip’s face right before he asks her to spar: “Y’all got me ALL the way f***ed up.” 😂 He ate those first couple knees to the stomach like it was nothing.
The “Please…” after he ATE those weak knee strikes by Paige was the most savage delivery by Phillip. When the gloves are off, Phillip is more dark and scary than Elizabeth, he gave a Paige a reality check that was much needed. She thought she was hot shit and had to Be humbled
@@Ven0m81 in "Salang Pass" from season 3, Gabriel says Philip is the best and that there's nobody better - in context they're talking about manipulating marks long term.
The beauty of this scene... Philip has always been an emotional protective man, his family is his country, the only thing that matters. For me the struggle of the last season was how he couldn't SCREAM and protect his daughter from his own wife. He could only hope Elizabeth would understand that she was gifting her daughter a life of pain, death suffering. Like he said it was all on them. Here he was teaching his daughter, that while she has some training, there are far meaner and scary things in the wild.
This scene never gets old. I think Phillip definitely did not come to his daughter's apartment with the intent of sparring her. He started off by telling her he remembers what it was like when learned how to "hurt" someone effectively. I think he is trying to bond with her here and offer some fatherly advice. Obviously their relationship is unconventional. Still he wants to help her understand more about the life she has chosen. Kind of like the Spiderman concept, 'with great power comes great responsibility,' sort of thing. Paige doesn't get it. So then he feels compelled to demonstrate his point physically.
Nope - I think he was there entirely to slap her down. Part Self preservation - hers and theirs, part disrespecting his wife (because that went well last time out) & part genuine curiosity. He just let her set it up that way
He probably thought he could come in with the perspective of a retired agent, which she could benefit from. But in her eyes, he was a _failed_ agent. He didn't retire because he lost his nerve, he did it because he was tired of a job that meant murdering innocent people, and that's the job he showed her.
@@pareidolist Exactly! She was acting like he was some old dude put out to pasture and wasn't able to hold his own. This Man BROKE A WOMAN TO PUT HER IN A SUITCASE!!!!
That was worth watching ALL six seasons right there. She was thinking she was such hot stuff cause she beat up some random people. Philip showed her she was not as ready for real spy games. 😂
My favourite show ever. I am still gutted it ended, although, what an ending! I’d love a few episodes or a feature-length episode catching up with characters after the end of the Soviet Union.
Paige was so used to seeing her father as a kind and loving father that she took him for granted. Then Phillip corrected her in the most practical way proving that he could easily kill and not think twice about it.
This comes about only because Elizabeth has been belittling/emasculating Philip in front of the kid; she has no idea who her father is, just like she has no idea who she is.
Just think how layered this scene is! It has so many complex undertones. This scene was very much in the making ever since the KGB wanted to recruit Paige and Philip was vehemently against it. You see that Philip proves his 'skills' to satiate his ego which was hurt by Paige's remarks. But this is used as a tool to show Paige how guarded she is from what actually happens in the 'spy's world and how Elizabeth's so called training was nothing but a farce to project her ambitions onto her daughter for sort of 'passing the torch'. He vents all his frustration of not 'fighting' and being looked down upon by his daughter for quitting. But he shows how shockingly dangerous the real world is. The bgm is hauntingly powerful!
Phillip comes off as soft but that's because he has played with more fire he needed time to heal. Hes the real bad ass and leader in the show. I think he went there to see what she was really learning. He got his answer .
2:35 Philip silently demonstrates to Paige:"If I were a dangerous opponent I would have snapped your neck by now." 2:55 After Paige bites Philip trying to get loose from his grip he conveys:"Oh, that isn't going to save you. I can take that pain." 3:10 "See, this is how you might go out and you'll spend your last seconds alive experiencing utter helplessness. How do you like it?" Philip *both* demonstrates that Paige might be facing such an opponent if she wants to be like her parents and that she *must* be prepared to fight like her father just did if she wants to win. He also conveys a "Your mother didn't tell you about this kind of fighting did she?" Philip correctly assesses that Paige lacks a ruthless edge and thus isn't really cut out for this kind of job. Her loving mother wrongly mixes her own motherly feelings into how she perceives her daughter and believes she is "becoming her spitting image". And far too many mothers out there always think they know what's best for their own daughters by superimposing themselves onto them.
This gets deeper the more I think about it. So Elizabeth has been training Paige, but she was shielding her from what she really does. That's what Philip went over to talk to Paige about, but he's a fucking super-spy, so she gave him the opening to learn. He showed her.
That is your father, child. He's preparing you for the realities of the spy world you think you can handle. If she'd seen even a fraction of the things her parents did, should never would have agreed to be a spy, much less if she saw how it affected them.
Phillip was always the stronger and better fighter than Elizabeth, he didn't have the same drive but he was talented, being a man probably helped a great deal too. So Paige thinking she can take him is just laughable.
enemy combatants, do not pull punches, or show restraint just because you are a woman, caring about feeling while training for battle will only get you killed.
I like how at 2:31 when Paige does that weird kick, Phillip didn't even try to block or dodge it. Probably because it was so weak and pointless it wasn't worth any response at all.
Also notice when Phillip says “Please…” after her weak knee strikes Phillip realizes she doesn’t have the strength or confidence to strike hard against a bigger foe….it’s like I. Phillips eyes her technique is pathetic
This scene is a great contrast to the sparring sessions Paige had with Elizabeth. While it seemed like Elizabeth was actually teaching her, this scene shows that Elizabeth was actually doing more harm than good by clearly going easy on Paige, which made her cocky and arrogant. Philip comes in and just destroys her and shows that she is no match (and never will be) for someone with even a modicum of actual skill. Sucker punching a couple of drunk frat boys in a bar is nothing. If Paige actually goes toe to toe in a real fight with a bigger opponent who knows a thing or two, she'll be snapped like a twig. Philip ultimately did her more of a favor in two minutes than Elizabeth did over dozens of sparring sessions. Her arrogance would've gotten her seriously injured or killed and he knew that. There's a reason Paige was always just going to have a desk job at the FBI or CIA as a pencil pusher.
Yeah, like it or not, the fact is she's about 110lbs soaking wet and isn't particularly strong. Unless she managed to get the drop on someone, like the drunk guys, she was never going to be that formidable in unarmed combat. Phillip didn't even use very sophisticated techniques on her, he basically just manhandled her, like any average guy could have. Even if she'd connected with those punches she threw at the start, it doesn't look like they'd have done much damage. When she kicked his leg, it didn't even phase him, which is probably what really would have happened.
There's no other show or movie throughout all of time that HITS ME WITH 1 WORD like it does when he says "please" There's so much going on there. He wants her to hurt him, he wants to know she will be ok but his acting is beyond amazing because you can tell he knows, she's a little wimp. I'm talking about Paige not Holly Taylor, Holly Taylor is awesome too!
This scene was tough to watch but Paige definitely needed to learn that she wouldn't really stand a chance against someone who was more trained and skilled than her and stronger than her!
I'm always a sucker for these type of scenes. Watching the arrogant novice be put in their place by an unsuspecting master in a sparring match is always entertaining
Yeah like that big dude who was making sexual comments to her in the department store? Philip caught up with him, beat the shit out of him and stuck that grill fork in him when the idiot was BBQing a couple hot dogs????
Bingo and always laughed at how Elizabeth and here, Paige even looks down on Phillip for not being part of the cause. Even tho Phillip is honestly the most scary and dangerous of them all when he’s really pissed
The very first episode actually shows how skilled he is when he fights the russian defector with such ease. It was actually my favorite fight of the show.
I love how wrong Paige is when she reads her Dad's personality. "I don't think I'm the same as you Dad". In a slightly pissy tone "What do you mean"? Mathew Rhys is an incredible actor. His emotions say everything and he doesn't need to say a word. He says I was like you. Until the cold viscous lonely reality that this life brings takes everything from you. If you realize it before its to late. You will lose yourself and your life. There are fates worse than death. I love you. Your my only daughter. Please do not choose this life.
The difference is clear when you notice he doesn't use both hands in that first exchange, the left is still in his pocket and never once does he put his hands up in a high guard like she does.
So many layers to this scene. His frustration with Paige, with Elizabeth, the situation. His teaching his daughter who he is, who she needs to be to survive. Seeing just how much she knows and how far she has to go to really understand the work they did. Also at the end, after he walks out and down the hall just how lonely he is... Matthew Rhys was exceptional in this show. Exceptional.
This is one of my favorite scenes of this show. This young girl his daughter has no clue as to what she's doing, and he as a father agonizes about what could happen. She's receiving a false sense of her prowess from her mother who is not revealing the whole truth of the world to her. Paige is protected and sheltered and as such has never been truly tested. Phillip just decided to provide a little "socratic" education by physically asking her a few questions to which she had no answer. An amazing interaction between father and daughter.
This is such a great scene. Paige has a child's understanding of what her parents do. She seeks to dedicate herself to something that she doesn't truly understand or know anything about. She says she's into what her mom does without knowing what her mom does in the slightest. And Philip gives her a hard reality check. Without words he's able to show her just how little she knows about what they do and it's satisfying as fuck
He could, but he wouldn’t. She’s his child. Granted her mama has filled her head with BS. You can tell it hurts him to the core to do this. No parent who truly loves their kids likes to hurt their child’s feelings
This scene felt so satisfying. You feel bad for Phillip that his daughter and wife view him as this soft and broken man who lost the strength to keep fighting for "the cause" when he's still plenty strong enough but along the way he gained enough wisdom to see what's actually important in life.
Yeah, I think he realized 'the cause' was bs and not worth all the death and destruction they were causing. He didn't have the same reverence for the USSR that Elizabeth did. He came to realize they weren't any better that the U.S. He started asking questions like why couldn't the USSR feed it's people when it had plenty of land like Kansas. He was disgusted when he murdered the lab assistant for what turned out to be no reason. He saw through the workers paradise bs and wondered why, if the USSR was so great and so much better, why many U.S. citizens always seemed to have plenty of everything and such a high standard of living.
It’s funny because eventually he tells Elizabeth’s this, he tells her to use her head and to ask questions to the center. And during season 6 that’s exactly what Elizabeth eventually does and she too comes to realize Phillip was right. Hence why Elizabeth pretty much got a lot of the higher ups, like Claudia, to have to run away and go until hiding.
i dont think you understood the show. they never saw him as a 'soft and broken man' as such. only as a disillusioned soviet, which in itself would produce the same kind of pity and treatment. none of what Philip's character arc involved was being a 'soft and broken man', only someone that finally saw through the propaganda. if he was still in the USSR he would have realized it a lot earlier, same with Elizabeth.
@@leafs2574 Paige saw him as soft. "I don't think I'm the same as you, Dad." She hadn't seen his arc. And she was treating him with increasing disrespect, as if she were above him -- not pity. Philip's power move in this scene did two things: to regain respect, and to tell Paige, "You have no idea what you're getting yourself into."
This scene makes me want to watch S1 again.
The way Philip goes from the bumbling looking dad to a downright vicious killer in an instant is terrifying. Bravo Matthew Rhys.
he really nailed the average American stereotypical dad type but behind closed doors being a ruthless KGB killer. These days, everyone thinks this is a hollywood fantasy. This is more true to life than anyone realises.
Like some of the people that Peter Strzok prosecuted. It’s a pity that Russian spy no.1 hasn’t been jailed yet.
Agreed. The only thing scarier is how under-rated this show is.
@@silverismoney thats what i like about it
100%. I think Elizabeth and Paige mistake his kindness for weakness
The way he says "I'll be okay" with such dismissive venom. Perfect.
And "Please."
"No, REALLY come at me".
This guy is perfect in this show
Man's a top top actor 😂🔥
“Oh! There aren’t really PADS in the real world.”
She went on a couple of stakeouts. He literally broke a dead woman's bones so she could fit in a suitcase.
and hacked one of their comrade friends up in a parking garage to keep cover
I loved that scene lol
Yeah thanks for reminding me of that! lol. Trying to forget!
that was nasty, corpses fart, smelly corpse farts
He choked the life out of a man in the back of a bus and stuffed his corpse into a corner - I believe cramming corpses into tight spaces is kinda his MO
Phillip was easily the best character of the show, incredible performance from Matthew Rhys
Agreed
I though paige was just as good, a perfect portray of how a person would react to jer upbringing.
She went from "I'm not the same as you" to "Oh shit, I'm not the same as you"
"Not bad" just kills me. Best line delivery of all time.
Like he’s not even saying it to her he’s saying it to himself….season 6 Phillip is my favorite Phillip
@@kdizzle901 even season 6 of the sopranos has some of the worst episodes. its amazing that these characters did nothing but get better
i loved philip putting paige in her place. I was getting sick of her "You're not like us", "We live in the real world", nonsense. Like kid, you have no idea what he's done.
Truth!
If only she knew he stuffed a women's body into a bag .. lol
I thought Paige would kill Philip in the end for going soft, TBH
I am not sure she knows the entire truth either about what her parents do. They haven’t been totally transparent with her so she isn’t all to blame for her over confidence
She really doesn't know her father in this situation. Phillip has taken life since he was a kid. Nothing more dangerous than a kid that starving. She's been shielded and kept in the world only by her parents good graces. This scene proof she needs a good spanking.
“I don’t think I’m the same as you, dad.” Oh sweetheart, you never told a bigger truth.
What a completely necessary scene. Paige refers to "what Mom and I do", when she has no real clue what her Mom does. Paige has learned some self defense stuff; Philip and Elizabeth have years of training and experience at killing quickly, efficiently, and remorselessly with their bare hands. And there are no words needed at the end of his "visit"; he's proven his point. Powerful stuff.
I haven’t seen this season yet and I’m mad I stopped watching. I gotta renew a subscription somewhere lol.
he actually says "not bad" quietly before leaving
@@bacongworldIt's sarcastic xD
Good for him. Her mother is shielding her from the reality of the job, he showed how vulnerable she really is and how silly she is to think otherwise. Feeling badass about beating nobodies in a bar .. try it on someone that can fight back.
Frank Castle broooo. Nightmares
Frank Castle broooo. Nightmares
Frank Castle brooo. Nightmares
Larrick was awesome man,great Villian.Kinda wish he had lasted 2 seasons.
Yeah but to be fair, her first real fight took place in a crowded bar against 2 drunk assholes, she did great
You can tell it breaks his heart to have to do this to his daughter. But he’s trying to protect her from the BS her mom has filled her head with.
The mom was a viscous,psycho,bad ass in the show.ur just a Pu c
okay but Mattahew Rhys was straight up terrifying here. I’ve always found his quiet reserve to be a little scary. You can take one look at Elizabeth and know she would straight up kill you on the spot. Even in the earlier seasons when we saw how they were trying to blend in, she always had this outwardly disdainful and dangerous arua about her. But i’ve always found that Philip could easily hide his true self behind those alias’s so well. One minute he’s the perfect “mr. gray” and the next he’s breaking your neck.
Im almost done with the series and while i find Keri's performance good there is no way she would be a secret infiltrator. She is very beautiful, incredibly skinny and has a distinct mole on her upper lip. She has a face and look that would be easy to remember regardless of the wigs she wears. Holly Taylor is also too beautiful except as a honey pot and spotter.
Mat, OTOH, can disappear into the crowd. He is much more believable.
"okay but" like that isn't a clear focus in the scene
This is basically him saying: "I didn't left the job because I was bad at it. I left by choice."
Also him saying 'Hate to shatter your ego, but you aren't the badass you think you are.'
"Oh ,there arent really pads in real life." - what they dont tell you in self defense classes.
She had no idea that Philip is the stronger agent between her parents. Just because Philip doesn't have the stomach anymore, doesn't he's not the best at what they do.
Last few mission would have gone much worse if he didn't help Elizabeth at the end.
Agreed. Philip has always assumed the most risk, in my opinion. He is definitely the more skilled agent.
@@lindsay9587 yeah the scenes with Martha and Phillip in the earlier were some of the most tense of the series.
no way. I always thought Elizabeth was more skilled agent in every way especially given Philip lost the stomach for it and Elizabeth had to hold it all together at the end
@Frank Castle-- Never thought this is a discussion I'd have but, yes I think Phillip was the better agent. Season 6 was Elizabeth fucking and murdering everybody in sight. But throughout the series, Phillip cultivated the better, actionable, sources. It's so well written, the writers put forth that he used so much of himself to be successful, that he just couldn't do it anymore. He was written with so much empathy that it seems like Elizabeth was just written to be his foil.
They were both highly skilled agents, but Elizabeth was better imo, all things considered. I'm sure if both Claudia and Gabriel had to pick the more steady and reliable hand, they'd go with Elizabeth. Philip was strong for a period if time, but also became too emotional that it interfered with decision-making in the field. Several of Elizabeth's missions failed season 6 because it was just her - and the missions really need 2 experienced agents.
This is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show. Philip INSTANTLY shows her that she has NO idea what it's like. How easily she can be overpowered by a properly trained male assailant. His coldness is amazing. Another Rhys performance that blows my mind. Love this show so much.
That “Please….” As he raises his hands up….my god Phillip took the gloves off with Paige that Elizabeth didn’t have the balls to do. Phillip gave Paige the reality check she needed, she’s still a rookie and thinks she’s hot shit due to her moms brain wash. He just exposed it and made her realize she isn’t all that neither is her mom.
@@aaronvega3822 ..definitely. Also the head weave at 2:19 and then the best line, the condescending "try again" 😂
Honey, you went on a hike. I climb Himalaya.
aktarian Freaking literally though. 😂
you completely summed it up
awww, your ten-speed is sooo cute.
here's my tank.
Sweetheart, you got your license. I won the Formula 1 world championship.
OR
Baby, you went to a shooting range. I did two tours in Iraq.
This scene was done so well. Mathew Rhys gives an amazing performance. Paige doesn't understand just how unprepared she really is. If she had to go head to head with an experienced spy/assassin like Philip she is toast. Phillip knows this and it terrifies him. He wants to show Paige how unprepared she is. He doesn't want to hurt his daughter emotionally or physically but, he knows making her understand is more important. He understands just how deadly people in his line of work are. He has to cause a little bit of pain now to make her truly evaluate herself and the rough road she is headed down if she continues. He causes a little bit of pain in order to spare her from a lot of pain or even a gruesome death later.
The lack of respect Paige has for her father seems to be only tempered by the obvious difference in their abilities. And the look of shock on her face is really telling. Did she really think he would forget how to do something he's spent decades perfecting?
The thing is, Paige is being brainwashed by Elizabeth. She doesn't yet know the extent of what her parents have done and are capable of. When she says "You are not like us" it was pretty much ELizabeth speaking through her
She doesn't KNOW what he's spent decades perfecting. Paige is the product of her parents' lies.
Martin Coloma Armas and with this beating he told her “I’m not like you, I’m better. I wrote the book you train by, you little brat”.
Chibbykins elizabeth’s lies. Phillip never wanted any of that.
Well thats the thing, shes seen what her mom can do dozens of times but not her dad, she has a respect but it only goes so high
One of the best scenes of the whole show
Man Philip is such a fucking bad ass. His face when she tells him, he's not "like them", brilliant!
One of the best scenes in all television.
@callmecatalyst You got some issues dude. Find Jesus
It’s funny they make it seem like Phillip is “weak” or “soft” for caring about people and having emotional intelligence when it made him a far better agent. Even funnier it’s like his wife was mad at him for not wanting to have anything to do with their job. Phillip is a beast he’s just not stupid.
This is WHY he didn’t want her doing what they do. He knew that to even get her to do it would 1. Require lying to his daughter about how dangerous it really is and 2. That she could be possibly killed or seriously injured. That’s why Elizabeth went behind his back and he couldn’t do anything about it because the KGB would have Elizabeth’s back.. When he said in the end that he felt like a joke he meant it.
I agree. I would have disliked Elizabeth, but Kerri Russell did such a phenomenal job it was hard not to appreciate the character. But I agree Phillip is the man. Elizabeth was still brainwashed by communist propaganda and cant grasp how Americans are after 25 years. It drove me nuts she threw him out over a one time lapse with his former girlfriend after finding out they had a son together, when she was banging a dude for 15 years, including when she was pregnant, and shit talking Phillip to the guy for 15 years. Also, yes, she is not honest with Paige about the uglier side of the job and she was gonna get herself killed after her head got blown up because she got into it with a couple drunk frat boys who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag and kicked one in the balls and ran away. What if it were, say, Larrick. She'd be dead. Phillip wants her to know what the job really is.
@@tonymoses3810 It's as if Elizabeth was serving the USSR's need by recruiting their daughter versus what was best for her. While Phillip wanted what was best for his daughter. Phillip while patriotic realized his life in the USSR sucks compared to the USA. At least he had the opportunity to be an entrepreneur versus being there all he had was misery..
Rhys was the highlight of the show, such a versatile and convincing actor.
2:22 You die, try again
2:33 You die, try again
2:44 You die, try again
3:19 "Okay, I do not have time to teach a baby to breathe"
One of the best fight scenes in any series. Simple, cold, relentless.
0:05 you die, try again
I actually think that this was a bonding moment between father and daughter. Paige tried to be tough, and Philip showed her how vulnerable she was out of protectiveness. He knew that Elizabeth was being soft on her regarding their work. I think Philip just wanted Paige to be actually ready to defend herself.
One of my few frustrations with this show is that they never really followed up on this scene. I don't think they had a single scene where they spoke to each other until the finale.
This scene alone won Matthew Rhys his well-deserved and overdue Emmy.
He won the emmy? I don't watch those but you're right he's a great actor!
This wasn't the episode he submitted for Emmy consideration actually, he won based on the finale. This scene was damn incredible, though
@@kalevstheworld Oh no doubt, his acting in the finale is perfect, too. The scene at McDonalds...the bargaining with Stan...both super high-quality.
Morgan Freeman: And in that moment, she knew, that her father really was into what "we do"
Philip is definitely one of my favorite characters on any show ever if not my favorite
Tommy Schlamme's directing is so vital to why this scene is so great. There's no quick cuts or tight framing: You get to see both of them fight in the master with Philip moves against Paige captured with such visual clarity. Ironically, it serves to underline how naive Paige is better than if it were typically shot. Fantastic.
what a great lesson Philip teaches her. So glad he didn't hide the reality of what they do, when it comes to fighting.
The look on philips face when she says you’re not like us.. oh really?? As he proceeds to show her the spar training she has done with her mother doesn’t even begin to bring her on the level of of her father’s ability. Priceless.
He’s like you’re right, you and you’re mother are not like me because I’m the best.
Whew Elizabeth killing the courier was incredibly intense. Let's go to a father daughter scene with Phillip and Paige to ease the tension from that previous scene.
1:34 Nvm
I love this scene so much. It is one of those few scenes in a show that everyone wanted to happen but it also fit the plot perfectly and wasn't just pandering to the fan base.
OMG, Matthew Rhy is a brilliant actor. When he entered he looked both concerned, awkward, and menacing at the same time. Then he asked if Gwen was there, so they could talk freely presumably, but we know how the scene ends. Then he looks around and takes his jacket off, but when he looks around, you can actually see him display pride in his daughter in his facial expression. Damn.
Before he leaves he says "Not bad", which seems condescending but he's probably being honest. Lol.
It was condescending. She was terrible .. Elizabeth is a woman and she took out stronger fighters then her, Paige wouldn't stand a chance if facing someone who can fight and is stronger then her.
He's thinking: "your mother taught you well...well enough to not immediately die lol". Paige is smart, but she doesn't have the decades of training and trauma that made her parents who they are.
I counted three or four times where he could’ve easily broken her neck. Several times he could’ve broken her arms or shoulders. He took a full-force bite barely flinching. And that’s after years of training and stakeouts and stuff. Well, if you call sparring with her mom training. Mikhail had to go through combat training, learn how to speak, act and look American, learn to endure rape and make it look like he was loving it, while also learning to live a double life.
@@buxadonoff I think he means it. Like, "not bad for a couple of years of part time training." Elizabeth's abilities are literally superhuman given her slight frame and lack of muscle.
You will probably never see this, but to all the cast and crew...
THANK YOU for the amazing show!
It does make me laugh when watching this to see how painfully Paige is out of her league. She doesn't even notice her father scanning the room and asking questions to establish a "no witness" scenario
Yeah, that 'I'm not like you' and 'You're not into what mom and I do' was so clueless and condescending that it was satisfying to see him kick her ass. She needed to learn a lesson. Great acting on his part throughout the scene, especially when he decided to show her and not just tell her how vulnerable she was. He could have killed her so easily. She thought she was such hot stuff, going on a few ops, one of which she messed up on of I remember correctly and learning some basic self defense and sucker punching a couple of guys. Most average guys, even untrained ones, that were expecting trouble that she couldn't sucker punch could have manhandled her pretty easily, let along someone big or strong or with any training. It was a good reality check.
@@genxer1 You sound like you enjoyed it way too much 😶 I'd hold back a little next time
@@Onigirli Actually I enjoyed that scene quite a bit. The Paige character had become annoying, smarmy and condescending. It was nice to see her get an attitude adjustment. It was also nice to see a fight like that end like it almost surely would. A lot of shows and movies would have had her kick his tail and him leaving humbled and in awe of her. Instead, he threw her around like a ragdoll and totally dominated her, which is what either of those frat guys would have done it they'd been sober and ready.
@@genxer1 she literally did nothing wrong, her parents treat her like shit
@@rainatmidnight she is a shit
That look on Philip’s face right before he asks her to spar: “Y’all got me ALL the way f***ed up.” 😂
He ate those first couple knees to the stomach like it was nothing.
Not trying to nit pick, but if you look close, he blocks them! What a badass!
Just binge watched this show. This is one of my absolute favorite scenes. So unexpected.
Love the "not bad" at the end. Lol
The “Please…” after he ATE those weak knee strikes by Paige was the most savage delivery by Phillip. When the gloves are off, Phillip is more dark and scary than Elizabeth, he gave a Paige a reality check that was much needed. She thought she was hot shit and had to
Be humbled
Oh Paige, if you only knew.
This may be my favorite episode of the show.
If only Paige had heard Gabriel (who was in the thick of it when Stalin was still around) say that Philip was the best the KGB ever produced.
which episode was that?
@@Ven0m81 in "Salang Pass" from season 3, Gabriel says Philip is the best and that there's nobody better - in context they're talking about manipulating marks long term.
This was hard to watch... and yet, even harder to look away.
It was so satisfying to watch for me. Bitch needed to be put in her place.
He’s honestly trying to save her life. Prepare for a real situation.
This was the best scene out of all the scenes in the whole show for me. Lol!
Compare Philip when he enters and leaves the room! Quite some contrast!
Yeah does his goofy dad routine the leave suppressing his angry spy side. So good.
The beauty of this scene...
Philip has always been an emotional protective man, his family is his country, the only thing that matters.
For me the struggle of the last season was how he couldn't SCREAM and protect his daughter from his own wife.
He could only hope Elizabeth would understand that she was gifting her daughter a life of pain, death suffering.
Like he said it was all on them.
Here he was teaching his daughter, that while she has some training, there are far meaner and scary things in the wild.
Now *that* is tough love.
The way he walks out without saying anything as if to say , lesson learnt my child is awesome.
He MADE this show!
This scene never gets old. I think Phillip definitely did not come to his daughter's apartment with the intent of sparring her. He started off by telling her he remembers what it was like when learned how to "hurt" someone effectively. I think he is trying to bond with her here and offer some fatherly advice. Obviously their relationship is unconventional. Still he wants to help her understand more about the life she has chosen. Kind of like the Spiderman concept, 'with great power comes great responsibility,' sort of thing. Paige doesn't get it. So then he feels compelled to demonstrate his point physically.
Nope - I think he was there entirely to slap her down. Part Self preservation - hers and theirs, part disrespecting his wife (because that went well last time out) & part genuine curiosity. He just let her set it up that way
He probably thought he could come in with the perspective of a retired agent, which she could benefit from. But in her eyes, he was a _failed_ agent. He didn't retire because he lost his nerve, he did it because he was tired of a job that meant murdering innocent people, and that's the job he showed her.
@@pareidolist Exactly! She was acting like he was some old dude put out to pasture and wasn't able to hold his own. This Man BROKE A WOMAN TO PUT HER IN A SUITCASE!!!!
@@lbention my god, that scene hurt to watch
That was worth watching ALL six seasons right there. She was thinking she was such hot stuff cause she beat up some random people. Philip showed her she was not as ready for real spy games. 😂
My favourite show ever. I am still gutted it ended, although, what an ending! I’d love a few episodes or a feature-length episode catching up with characters after the end of the Soviet Union.
Paige was so used to seeing her father as a kind and loving father that she took him for granted. Then Phillip corrected her in the most practical way proving that he could easily kill and not think twice about it.
This comes about only because Elizabeth has been belittling/emasculating Philip in front of the kid; she has no idea who her father is, just like she has no idea who she is.
foshou citron Phillip needs to set his lady straight after this shit as his next stop
Just think how layered this scene is! It has so many complex undertones. This scene was very much in the making ever since the KGB wanted to recruit Paige and Philip was vehemently against it. You see that Philip proves his 'skills' to satiate his ego which was hurt by Paige's remarks. But this is used as a tool to show Paige how guarded she is from what actually happens in the 'spy's world and how Elizabeth's so called training was nothing but a farce to project her ambitions onto her daughter for sort of 'passing the torch'. He vents all his frustration of not 'fighting' and being looked down upon by his daughter for quitting. But he shows how shockingly dangerous the real world is. The bgm is hauntingly powerful!
This scene stands close to the best I've seen. Watching this clip you will understand Philip and Paige almost perfectly.
Condescending brat you are fighting with the best.. what an amazing character Phillip is ❤
He blended so well that he was constantly doubted and questioned
Heartbreaking, but necessary. Paige needed this.
Phillip comes off as soft but that's because he has played with more fire he needed time to heal. Hes the real bad ass and leader in the show. I think he went there to see what she was really learning. He got his answer .
I'm REALLY gonna miss this show.
Philip: "Allow me to reintroduce myself."
2:35
Philip silently demonstrates to Paige:"If I were a dangerous opponent I would have snapped your neck by now."
2:55
After Paige bites Philip trying to get loose from his grip he conveys:"Oh, that isn't going to save you. I can take that pain."
3:10
"See, this is how you might go out and you'll spend your last seconds alive experiencing utter helplessness. How do you like it?"
Philip *both* demonstrates that Paige might be facing such an opponent if she wants to be like her parents and that she *must* be prepared to fight like her father just did if she wants to win.
He also conveys a "Your mother didn't tell you about this kind of fighting did she?"
Philip correctly assesses that Paige lacks a ruthless edge and thus isn't really cut out for this kind of job. Her loving mother wrongly mixes her own motherly feelings into how she perceives her daughter and believes she is "becoming her spitting image". And far too many mothers out there always think they know what's best for their own daughters by superimposing themselves onto them.
This gets deeper the more I think about it. So Elizabeth has been training Paige, but she was shielding her from what she really does. That's what Philip went over to talk to Paige about, but he's a fucking super-spy, so she gave him the opening to learn. He showed her.
Not me coming back here every so often to rewatch this scene. Whenever I need a reminder of powerful acting, this is my go to
this scene restored my strength
That is your father, child. He's preparing you for the realities of the spy world you think you can handle. If she'd seen even a fraction of the things her parents did, should never would have agreed to be a spy, much less if she saw how it affected them.
Just finished binging this show for the first time. This was one of the standout scenes. So good.
Phillip was always the stronger and better fighter than Elizabeth, he didn't have the same drive but he was talented, being a man probably helped a great deal too. So Paige thinking she can take him is just laughable.
Yes Sir. The old saying goes there's weight classes for a reason in combat sports and it's not to protect the big guys from the little guys.
enemy combatants, do not pull punches, or show restraint just because you are a woman, caring about feeling while training for battle will only get you killed.
I like how at 2:31 when Paige does that weird kick, Phillip didn't even try to block or dodge it. Probably because it was so weak and pointless it wasn't worth any response at all.
His style seems to be Systema which involves literally absorbing strikes.
Also notice when Phillip says “Please…” after her weak knee strikes Phillip realizes she doesn’t have the strength or confidence to strike hard against a bigger foe….it’s like I. Phillips eyes her technique is pathetic
This scene is a great contrast to the sparring sessions Paige had with Elizabeth. While it seemed like Elizabeth was actually teaching her, this scene shows that Elizabeth was actually doing more harm than good by clearly going easy on Paige, which made her cocky and arrogant. Philip comes in and just destroys her and shows that she is no match (and never will be) for someone with even a modicum of actual skill. Sucker punching a couple of drunk frat boys in a bar is nothing. If Paige actually goes toe to toe in a real fight with a bigger opponent who knows a thing or two, she'll be snapped like a twig. Philip ultimately did her more of a favor in two minutes than Elizabeth did over dozens of sparring sessions. Her arrogance would've gotten her seriously injured or killed and he knew that. There's a reason Paige was always just going to have a desk job at the FBI or CIA as a pencil pusher.
Yeah, like it or not, the fact is she's about 110lbs soaking wet and isn't particularly strong. Unless she managed to get the drop on someone, like the drunk guys, she was never going to be that formidable in unarmed combat. Phillip didn't even use very sophisticated techniques on her, he basically just manhandled her, like any average guy could have. Even if she'd connected with those punches she threw at the start, it doesn't look like they'd have done much damage. When she kicked his leg, it didn't even phase him, which is probably what really would have happened.
There's no other show or movie throughout all of time that HITS ME WITH 1 WORD like it does when he says "please" There's so much going on there. He wants her to hurt him, he wants to know she will be ok but his acting is beyond amazing because you can tell he knows, she's a little wimp. I'm talking about Paige not Holly Taylor, Holly Taylor is awesome too!
Had her against the wall and it was so effortless he had time to look away like "I hate that I have to do this" Phenomenal!
This scene was tough to watch but Paige definitely needed to learn that she wouldn't really stand a chance against someone who was more trained and skilled than her and stronger than her!
I'm always a sucker for these type of scenes. Watching the arrogant novice be put in their place by an unsuspecting master in a sparring match is always entertaining
Poor Paige. Men have a huge strength advantage over women, and that is a painful truth to learn.
At least she didn't learn it how Elizabeth did.
His look at 1:27 like “what the HELL did you just say?” is amazing.
I think someone should have shown Season 1 to Paige so she can know her father a little better
Yeah like that big dude who was making sexual comments to her in the department store? Philip caught up with him, beat the shit out of him and stuck that grill fork in him when the idiot was BBQing a couple hot dogs????
'You are not like us' ... Phillip was like 'lil' girl, imma whoop ... respect your elders, I was the best in the game' lmao
😂😂😂
Little girl, you gota black belt. I beat up the sensei.
It was the head turn and raised eyebrows for me. (It was at this point the rest of us knew she messed up!)
Just because he isn't into it, doesn't mean he isn't dangerous.
Bingo and always laughed at how Elizabeth and here, Paige even looks down on Phillip for not being part of the cause. Even tho Phillip is honestly the most scary and dangerous of them all when he’s really pissed
Low key a top 5 show from the 2010s. No matter the clip I always think poor Martha and poor Nina lol
High key it’s get ranked consistently that high
The very first episode actually shows how skilled he is when he fights the russian defector with such ease. It was actually my favorite fight of the show.
I love how wrong Paige is when she reads her Dad's personality. "I don't think I'm the same as you Dad". In a slightly pissy tone "What do you mean"? Mathew Rhys is an incredible actor. His emotions say everything and he doesn't need to say a word. He says I was like you. Until the cold viscous lonely reality that this life brings takes everything from you. If you realize it before its to late. You will lose yourself and your life. There are fates worse than death. I love you. Your my only daughter. Please do not choose this life.
The difference is clear when you notice he doesn't use both hands in that first exchange, the left is still in his pocket and never once does he put his hands up in a high guard like she does.
The brilliance of this show is incredible.
So many layers to this scene. His frustration with Paige, with Elizabeth, the situation. His teaching his daughter who he is, who she needs to be to survive. Seeing just how much she knows and how far she has to go to really understand the work they did. Also at the end, after he walks out and down the hall just how lonely he is...
Matthew Rhys was exceptional in this show. Exceptional.
Philip may have had enough of the whole spy thing but he is as lethal as ever when needed. Great character.
her look at 1:36 is so irritating like she's baffled that some casual would challenge her
Holly turned out to be a superb pick for the role :)
This is one of my favorite scenes of this show. This young girl his daughter has no clue as to what she's doing, and he as a father agonizes about what could happen. She's receiving a false sense of her prowess from her mother who is not revealing the whole truth of the world to her. Paige is protected and sheltered and as such has never been truly tested. Phillip just decided to provide a little "socratic" education by physically asking her a few questions to which she had no answer. An amazing interaction between father and daughter.
This is such a great scene. Paige has a child's understanding of what her parents do. She seeks to dedicate herself to something that she doesn't truly understand or know anything about. She says she's into what her mom does without knowing what her mom does in the slightest. And Philip gives her a hard reality check. Without words he's able to show her just how little she knows about what they do and it's satisfying as fuck
Not pads in the real world. 😂 This show has so many great lines
There was true fear in her eyes
Phillip has a look like he could snap her neck in an instant and not feel remorseful at all. Such a dark place to be.
No, he loved her but needed to teach her a few different lessons during that interaction.
He could, but he wouldn’t. She’s his child. Granted her mama has filled her head with BS. You can tell it hurts him to the core to do this. No parent who truly loves their kids likes to hurt their child’s feelings
Now why Paige don't know Daddy Mischa an OG?
One of the best scenes of this show, or any show.
Just curious, does anyone know the submission used at 2:35? Also, Philip is one of the best characters ever written.
Reserve guillotine isn't it?
Can you believe that this is the same guy that plays belos in the owl house
Paige thinks she knows who her parents are and what they do...Sadly she has no idea of what they are really capable of.