"Retracing Their Footsteps: Thomas Andrews (SHIPBUILDER)"
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Few people who were aboard the Titanic have become the subject of as many legends as Thomas Andrews - her shipbuilder, who stood in the Smoking Room as the ship broke apart and slipped beneath the waves. But how much of that is true? Was Andrews the real designer of the ship? Where was Andrews during the sinking? In this documentary, we meet the man behind the legends, and follow his footsteps, recounting the known sightings of Andrews from when he left his home in Belfast for the last time to the last time he was seen as the ship foundered.
Working with the authors and historians behind "On A Sea of Glass" and the forthcoming "Recreating Titanic and Her Sisters: A Visual History", considered by many to be the premier title on the events of the voyage, we aim here to separate the fact from the legend.
A huge Thank-You to the Belfast Titanic Society, who helped with some of the research and bringing the local perspective of Thomas Andrews to this portrait. For more information on their wonderful society, visit them at www.belfast-titanic.com/
Thanks for all of the positive feedback, everyone!
Yes, thank you for all of the positive comments.
Your very welcome our and my pleasure!Wish you all the best and have a great blessed day and life! GOD bless
@@tadfitch3294 Your very welcome our and my pleasure!Wish you all the best and have a great blessed day and life! GOD bless
It's me. Terri from the Titanic Book Club. I loved this. Thomas Andrews is the Titanic person I am most interested in. Great job.
@@TitanicHorseRacingLover Thanks, Terri!
Well gentlemen, not only have you given Thomas Andrews the tribute he deserves, but also give a good record of he was as a person. A true friend and family man. Thank you and may never be forgotten.
It wasn't Thomas Andrew's that designed that ship, it was Leroy Johnson a Black Man
Johnson designed it to sink 🛳
Sleep with fishes white people
@@Twsuf1hahaha. Alright mate.
@@Twsuf1 Leroy Johnson was a fictional character 😅
I'm a huge Titanic nerd, and Victor Garber's performance in the 97 movie made me fall in love with Thomas Andrews. He seemed like a really sweet, kind soul.
I felt the same way. I also had a crush on Victor Garber after the movie.
ME TO!
The way he touched a maids cheek telling her to help herself made mw swoon
Michael Goodliffe was the definitive Thomas Andrews in the 1958 classic A Night to Remember. The story of the Titanic will survive Cameron's feeble remake.
eh, boring @@TangledUpInBlue631
Everything I've read about Thomas Andrews, he was the essence of a gentleman. A kind man who was adored and loved by those who knew him, those who worked with him at the Harland and Wolff yards. Adored his wife and daughter. And when I think of how his life, career, everything just crashed down around him that night just truly hurts my heart. He didn't deserve that kind of end. Mr. Andrews, keep resting in power sir. You were and are a man of honor.
Nicely said.
Agreed, and he was just like Captain Smith, loved by many and a pure gentleman
The fact that Mr Andrews was so kind and loved by everyone makes this even sadder. He knew the ship was going to sink. He took the burden onto himself and sank with it
Did you see he reincarnated.
How can I feel so sad for a man I never met. Thanks, Tom.
Thomas Andrews has always been my hero of the Titanic story. I love the way he is portrayed in the James Cameron movie.
Victor Garber was made for that role.
@@BDavis820 Absolutely agree. He was wonderful.
@@jeanninehochet Thomas has always been my fave too. ❤️
It broke my heart to hear Ismay's remarks to Andrew's wife, and to hear Andrew's desire just to see his family again, which unfortunately never happened. Great video, and very well done!
RIP Thomas Andrews 🕊
“He hated Titanic because it was taking him further from his family and home” that sent a shiver down my spine. 😢
and another thing. Titanic took him with her as she went to the bottom of the altantic. While her sister, Olympic brought him home once more taking him back home to belfast
@@matthewthetransportguy3515 oh my he passed away.
Except you're making up the quote. "The thing he did not like about the Titanic was that it was taking him further from home every minute." Versus your version "He hated Titanic." Id say youre not close.
And here I hated going 3 miles down the road to go to work, leaving my family at home. This man will truly go down in history for the good things he did in his life. The failures of the Titanic were none of his doing. The man died with a Noble heart.
He hated her but the Titanic loved him and decided to take him from his family forever, what a chilling story 😢
He seemed like a genuinely good dude. I like how he'd update his wife daily with a general debrief of what he was up to. His actions on the night of the sinking were nothing less than admirable. RIP Mr. Andrews🙏🏻
He’s one of my favorite people, such a interesting gentleman
Also: The press never ceases to piss me off
The description of how he may have passed, and the music playing at the same time, nearly had me in tears. Beautiful video, and a fitting tribute to a wonderful, honorable, and kind man.
My all-time favourite character from that ship. And not just a character, a real person. Hope he is in Heaven now, reunited with everyone he called family.
So sad for him. His family lost him. Thanks for sharing his life with us.
What a lovely, caring man. So very sad.
This is well overdue, and was more than well done. I think its done him justice. The part of recounting his likely fate almost drove me near tears, and that isn't an easy task. Well done. I must also say, I myself accepted the passive suicidal nature of Mr. Andrews aswell as Captain Smith, but hearing this, really changed my outlook on their mindsets. They wanted to make it, they had families they wanted to see again, lives they wanted to live. Really humanized them, takes them away from all the myths that have sprung up over the past 100 years.
I disagree..
@@bojack99 On what grounds?
@@bojack99 care to explain?
I vhemetley disagree. Both Thomas & EJ had so much to look forward to & both were starting new chapters in their lives. EJ was due to retire after this trip. He was very much looking forward to spend more time with his wife & daughter. Thomas was just shortly married & had a new baby. He was also looking forward to finishing out his contract, which was for one more ship & then, retire from shipbuilding so he could also spend more time with his wife & infant daughter. From what I read, Thomas had already discussed this with Nellie..so the plans were already in motion. I'm really not sure where you came to the conclusion you did, nothing in either mans life points to that.
@@ForeverAlansGirl My comment is agreeing with you...
Victor Garber’s performance is absolutely amazing in James Cameron’s film, he’s probably my favorite character. “I’m sorry I didn’t build you a stronger ship, young Rose” gets me every time. In real life he was an amazing person and it’s sad that he went down with his ship. Thomas Andrews will be missed
I agree that Victor Garber played his role so well especially when he hands Rose the lifebelt she hugs him & his eyes are welling up as the ship is tilting. Very moving.
Yeah, ive never got the outrage from people over the film not being entirely accurate about where Andrews was last spotted, James Cameron wanted to relay to the audience that Thomas Andrews was a selfless man. Andrews giving up his life jacket to Rose and wishing her good luck with a smile on his face knowing he will be dead within minutes does that perfectly.
@@nathjohn3158I think most of it was over William Murdoch’s portrayal. Andrew’s isn’t exactly accurate but he’s still humanized. Murdoch was portrayed as a murderer who offed himself.
Rip Thomas Andrews you was a great gentleman and you will never be forgotten 🙏
Thank you so much for covering this man. My father was born in Belfast & told us his parents had seen the launch of the Titanic.
I am commenting because my father told me Andrews had a water fountain of potable water for the engine room workers when I was little (pre-“Ghosts of the Abyss”. Clearly, Andrews thought of the workers illustrates his care for the stokers.
By the way, what a beautiful touch by Mr Joughin, baking a cake especially for Andrews on each maiden voyage - never mind his heroism during the sinking and his legendary antics during the last few seconds of it, what a generous man he must have been. I'm sure he helped Mr Andrews more than he could have imagined; but Andrews seems like the sort of man who would have remembered it. A good one.
Not really a cake, more a loaf, as it's a speciality bread of Ireland.
How incredibly sad. What a wonderful portrait of a clearly very honourable man. May he and all those lost rest in peace.
Thomas Andrew’s was one of the influences that inspired me to become an architect. Finally finding a detailed story on him, besides his mythical image of sadness upon the sinking of his work, have inspired me a bit more as a professional. This tribute has moved me deeply. Thank you for this.
As a lifelong Andrews fan, thank you for this great tribute to Tommie. ❤
They should do a film based on Thomas Andrews ❤
It would b a masterpiece 💯❤️
I can tell he was a good person, always put others before himself, and extremely driven in his passion. This really made me sad watching this and its ashame his body was never found
You should do one on Captain Smith as well! I had no clue he was seen jumping from the bridge. Fascinating that I’m still learning new things about this tragedy.
That's their opinion and Tom will believe and advocate anything the highest bidder/historian says
@@tanesha8942 What on earth? Why are you even here? Tom consistently does a remarkable job! His documentaries are fascinating, poignant, and classy.
This video was excellent,!!! It was very refreshing to hear about Thomas Andrews, the designer and finisher of the Titanic. I watch all the Titanic videos and learn something new constantly!!! His interaction and respect for his workers, calling the his "pals" as he saw them leaving for home after work in his comment to his wife really speaks a lot to his true nature and personality, as does his constant interaction and respect of his entire crew, including the women, taking their suggestions seriously and incorporating them in future ship designs to help their workdays be a little better, such as the drinking fountain in the fireman's tunnel, and the caring of the crew in their comments and interaction with him, taking time to talk about his family and baking him the soda bread to help his homesickness - these things show the care and respect they had for him and the same he had for them to induce that care and respect back and reach out and talk to him, even inviting him to their quarters for celebration and his actually accepting that invitation and attending their celebration speaks volumes of his caring and nurturing personality!!!! I really appreciate seeing this video regarding one of the lesser subjects handled over the years by other media sources. It was actually a positive, as much as it could be, look at the most horrible of disasters in our history!!!! Thank you for the insight!!!!
@@tanesha8942 you must be a real hoot at parties
I think jumping in the water is much preferable than staying on that massive ship as it went down.
Amazing documentary! I recognized all of the contributors. I love how such young men as yourselves, are keeping this important history alive, even dressing appropriately to the time period. The ultimate mark of respect. Bravo and keep up the great work! Also, my compliments to the developers who has succeeded in taking us viewers on a journey to the actual ship. Bravo!
I have read, watched and listened to many accounts of the sinking of this ship over the last fifty years and this account is one of the best and most moving. I hope the family of Thomas Andrews took comfort from the many complimentary comments people made about this man's nature, warmth and generosity of character which he afforded to fellow beings regardless of their status. A man anyone would have been proud to be able to call a friend.
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Bless you all for making these. The Titanic like many disasters was heavily romanticized as a societal coping mechanism, like the now-debunked idea that Cpt Smith's last words were "Be British, lads". Or the myth that the engineers simply stayed at their posts long after power had been lost. Its a part of the legacy and a story retelling with shifted details, but today we have a much greater emphasis on fact and truth
And that truth as we know today is that humans usually arent majestically suicidal, but vulnerable and emotional beings who value their lives and cherish being with their loved ones very much. The thought of Thomas Andrews poignantly seeing out the end in the Smoking Room is much more alluring as a narrative than the idea that he helped how he could and THEN tried to save himself when he could do no more
It deifies the victims of terrible, preventable disasters and sets an unrealistic standard for what society regards as heroic and brave. Life is precious and miraculous. The awe that used to come from those dramatic, Shakespearean twists can now be replaced by the comfort of knowing that everyone who suffered in this tragedy, directly or indirectly, is now resting peacefully
Thank you all that contributed to this documentary. I never knew much about Thomas Andrews. It was eye-opening to me to learn how devoted he was to everyone around him, his other contributions, and his role in saving passengers.Great JOB!
Thank you so much for the time and energy to put this detailed story together. I had a chance to visit the titanic museum in Belfast and learned how proud everyone involved in the building of the ship was of the quality ship they produced, never anticipating such a bizarrely unfortunate series of events would lead many to believe they were partly to blame for the ship’s sinking. This was very touching and informative. Thank you.
Imagine being the first to realize the ship was sinking. He had the biggest advantage in terms of saving himself but decided to stay and help and make sure as many people were able to evacuate as possible. All this despite having a wife and baby girl back home. A true hero. The same could be said for Captain Smith and others. They could have cowardly saved themselves but chose not to.
@@jamestlynn mr Ismay was the one who wanted them to speed up and then cowardly got onto a lifeboat and Murdoch was guiding the lifeboats down seen he had got on the lifeboat and didn't say anything
A fascinating and deeply moving account of one of the most important but all too often, overlooked or even relegated figures in the "Titanic" saga. Thomas Andrews was a true and dedicated gentleman, who should be remembered with respect and gratitude for his role and well deserved place in the historic tragedy of "Titanic"..!
Another very good documentary, thank you. I wish Thomas Andrews would have survived this disaster...a good man.
Nice tribute to a beautiful soul. Love the courage and character of these Victorians. RIP Mr. Andrews.
Fantastic mini-documentary. On a side note, Thomas Andrews was a gentleman to many of those who worked at Harland and Wolff. He despised sectarianism and treated both Protestant and Catholic workers equally at a time when Catholics found limited employment at Harland and Wolff and were often mistreated on the basis of their faith. He was a good man.
I have vericose veins that keep me bed bound. They are excruciatingly painful. The thought of walking 2 football fields one time sends my mind into a panic…this is one strong man to do this thousands of time! I’ve watched every movie and documentary on Titanic, this is one ☝️ fine tribute! Thank you!
This presentation is simply outstanding, and worthy of being presented on PBS. A very informative and poignant account of the man that was Thomas Andrews. So much about him as well as the final days of Titanic's preparation. The story of Titanic goes beyond the loss of a brand new vessel the likes which had never been seen before, it was also the loss of what had been the blood, sweat and tears of the thousands of men that built her and crewed her. As for Thomas Andrews, one can mourn the loss of such fine man.
To all of you at PT-E, your work gets better with every presentation you do. Thank you. Well done.
We really appreciate the feedback, thank you!
This documentry on Thomas Andrews is lovely, thank you so much for sharing it with us. I have a little input on Thomas as well. I have the book " Thomas Andrews, Shipbuilder" written right after he passed by Shan Bulloch. Thomas was indeed in severe pain of his legs, brought on by all the years he worked outside in the cold. ( I'm thinking rheumatism) His family was his world & he promised Nellie that after the construction of the next ship, which he was already committed to, he would be home with her & their baby. From everything I have read about Thomas & Nellie; they were so in love; it breaks my heart knowing they only had 4 years together. In case anyone is interested, there is an interview here on you-tube with Nellies youngest daughter Vera Morrison. 5 years after Thomas died, Nellie married Henry Harland, also from Harland & Wolf & together, they had 5 children, of which Vera is the youngest. She explains how her mother was dating both Thomas & Henry . She chose to marry Thomas.
I am not a Titanic history buff... I stumbled on this video by accident. Watched it to the end. I had no idea who Mr. Andrews was. I am glad that I do now. Thank you for making this excellent video. Learning of the man and his character is a bright spot in these difficult times.
Great tribute to the man. He's always been a fascinating person to me. This is probably the best documentary on his life and work I've ever seen. Great job! And please keep up these amazingly researched and well put together videos.
I love your videos! My grandfather Richard B.Maxner used to sit with me for hours as I watched him build famous ships in bottles. He never sold them. It was his hobby. Anyway his father the captain as we all called my great grandfather told him bits of all your stories and he told them to me, tragedy and Hero's, I loved them. I miss him, and you retelling these beloved stories cheer me right up.
When I last visited Belfast I made a point of visiting the Belfast technical academy where Thomas Andrews studied. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to actually go inside, although I did have a very interesting conversation with the gentleman who guarded the entrance! Thank you so much for this wonderful video about this wonderful man.
How sad for both Smith and Andrews that they would never see their family again.
A nice tribute to Thomas Andrews. Thank you.
What a fine gentleman Tommy Andrew's was. RIP gone but not forgotten.
Big Respect to a very caring guy who saved so many lives!
from belfast myself, brought a tear to my eye, thank you for this.
The photo of his family and the ship going down in the background was what really drove this in
Thank you for this. Thomas Andrews has always been a hero of mine.
What you also can really appreciate about people like Mr. Andrews is that they created the things we all enjoy to this day and have made all of our lives better and you can see why because of their dedication and love for their work. These were not sloppy people and the fact that they had real connections to the everyday workers is something that doesn't seem to be much of a thing today and it shows in so many ways.
Excellent work! I enjoyed this very much. Thomas Andrews has always been such a fascinating character to me. Considering he was very close to the age I am now when he died, really makes me revere his character and selflessness for the sacrifices he made to save others but not himself. He was such a deservedly accomplished man at an early age and was taken far too soon.
A life to be proud of. May he never be forgotten.
I have seen on news n read about disasters with far more casualties, but idk why the titanic sinking always brings tears to my eyes…RIP Mr. Andrews and all those poor lost souls❤️
I guess the biggest and expensive cruiseship made at the beginning of the 20th century, that is why.
What a kind gentleman he was. Thank you for remembering him in this excellent video! 👍👍👍😄
This is fascinating and a joy. I live 4 miles from Comber and am in it frequently. The little town is steeped in the Andrews family and, in fact, is full of history. I recommend a visit to it if you are ever fortunate to visit Northern Ireland
I truly feel that this channel with all your sensitivity and respect towards your subjects is the most fitting channel to document this great gentleman. What an amazing person, someone who you would truly aspire to.
Very poignant and interesting perspective on the Titanic story. So glad you put so much thought and effort into producing it. Thank you.
I did enjoy this videography so very much. So well presented and narrated. Thank you all. Thomas Andrews, a tribute to a true gentleman. Well done indeed.
Oh my goodness, Tom! I was looking for accounts for Thomas Andrews for months. I’m so incredibly happy you uploaded this; I never heard much of Thomas Andrew’s story in this take before but wow! I’m seriously blown away. Thank you so much for the video, Tom; and great commentary from all the wonderful historians too. 🙂
Tom, you’ve outdone yourself yet again! What an incredible video. I’ve always wanted to know more about Andrews and this video taught me so many things I had never heard of before. Def your best video to date! Can’t wait to see what you put out next! Also it was great to see Mr. Brady in the video as well! I hope you guys collab more!
A wonderful tribute to Thomas Andrews. Thank you. Happy Holidays.
amazing video 10/10!
Hi sam
It's good to hear know finally that both TA and Smith didn't committed semi suicide as Titanic's folklore has told us since decades. Sure Thomas was wrestling with the events burden, especially loss of lives, but he nonetheless thought about family at the end. Unfortunately he didn't make it. I'd go for the hypothesis that he drowned after an hypothermia paralysis, since he didn't wear a lifebelt.
The Ismay letter speaks volumes about Ismay the man too.
The press did a hatchet job on Ismay and it was at the instigation of one man. He did not deserve it as this video and another I recently watched point out.
This has to be one of the finest, if not the finest video I've seen on this channel yet. As well as the finest video of the history of Titanic.
This was a beautiful tribute to a gentle man. As beautifully as he was portrayed in “Titanic”, we truly see the depth and warmth of his character and heart in this video. Thank you so much for this work. I will be sure to make more in depth visit the next time I’m in Belfast. 💔❤️
I’m only 12 minutes in and I’m crying. What a fantastic way to tell this story. Thank you
I definitely shed a few tears at the end of this. Wow. Well done this does him justice.
Fascinating tribute to the builder of Titanic. I didn't know anything about him. Really excellent work!
One of the best specials about those who lost their lives saving others.
Thank you for your presentation. It has struck home the tragedy of the sinking of his ship, Titanic.
Thank you for this amazing tribute to Mr. Andrews. He seemed to be such a kind soul.
Rest in Peace, Tommie.❤
Such a nice , disciplined and intelligent man. To be loved by all those workers.
Fantastic Documentary on Thomas Andrews, I'd certainly love to see more like this, thanks Guys, and Rest in Peace Thomas Andrews,❤, and all those lost in the Titanic Tragedy ❤
An amazing production everyone! Tom you have set the bar high for Documentaries, my friend
I assisted many brand new restaurants and truckstop stores and I remember how the whole days from 08:15 am till almost 11:30 pm to sometimes midnight that’d I’d be 100% BUSY with installations, furniture delivery, machines like soda machines and juice machines, coffee makers, ovens and grills needed to be installed. From supplies to other equipment and the shelving for the travel stores that needed to be installed. These were weeks to months of “Day-To-Day” at constant 13-14 hr work days. So I can ONLY IMAGINE what Thomas Andrews day-to-day workflow was like aboard the R.M.S. Titanic before it’s departure from Southampton
You guys put the story in history. Great job.
It truly is an outstanding and highly entertaining video, as I always expect Mr. Lynskey, however I do have a few notes which are either inaccuracies or missing details which are not represented in the video. This isn’t intended to be nip-picking or to serve as criticism on this very well made mini-documentary however, so I would take it with a grain of salt.
• The Andrews family didn’t had a personal chauffeur as stated at the 07:34 timemark. The Andrews family had five female servants ( These were miss Bessie Abernethy (the child nurse of Elba), miss Mary Doyle (the parlour maid), miss Margaret Jones (the housemaid), Mrs. Helon Lee (the cook) and miss Lizzie Scott (the general domestic servant).
• On the second of April 1912 Helen “Nellie” Reilly Andrews (maiden name Barbour) was seriously ill at the time and unable to get out of bed. Due this she sadly couldn’t witness her husband leave as stated at 07:40. Despite this point, it is correctly stated at 22:37 she wasn’t in good health.
• This is not a mistake perse, but still something I wanted to mention. Harland and Wolff didn’t just had a office in Southampton but a whole small shipyard with its own workforce. Robert Welch took a few photographs of the Southampton Location in 1908.
• This is not commonly stated but Thompson Hamilton, Thomas Andrews Jr’s personal secretary since his old secretary Edward Ritchie moved to South-Africa, his real first name wasn’t Thompson or Thomas as often listed. His real first name was James Hamilton.
• It’s purely speculative to say that he went out to investigate himself after the engines stopped, even with the proof represented in this video. As stated in the video we don’t know what transpired on the bridge after fourth officer Boxhall, at his own initiative left to inspect the damage, since except for quartermaster Robert Hichens everyone sadly didn’t survive the sinking who was on the bridge around that time. It is estimated that the sighting under the bridge by Mrs. Cassebeer happened around 11: 47/23 : 47 if my mind serves me right.
• One detail that isn’t mentioned in the video is that nightwatchman Johnstone saw Thomas Andrews Jr go aft on D-deck, into the first class dining saloon, to make his way towards the first class pantry where a stairwell for the crewmembers was waiting which took him down to E-deck where the working alleyway (also known as “Scotland road”) was located.
• The statement as mentioned by lamp trimmer Samuel Hemming during his testimony that boatswain Alfred Nichols told him and deck storekeeper John Foley is omitted, Nichols told that he spoke to Andrews who told him he gave the ship half a hour to live. This was conversation is believed to have been around 12 o'clock
• Johnstone didn’t saw captain Smith going to the post office on G-deck, he stated that he followed Thomas Andrews Jr alone when he saw him E-deck to the post office. Based on what fourth officer Boxhall told it seems that Captain Smith went down two times during the first 45 minutes of the sinking.
• One other account missing is from first class barber Augustus Weikman who ran into Thomas Andrews Jr on the stairwell near the squash court and post office. He told Weikman: "My God, it's serious." about the flooding in the mail room under the post office at the time.
• There’s a rather huge skip in time between the sightings by nightwatchman Johnstone and first class stewardess Robinson her sighting (A time skip of about 15 to 20 minutes, it goes from 11 : 50 to 12 : 10 in nearly an instant). Relating to my last point it is possible that Thomas Andrews went up one time as well after he knew the extend of the damage as well to report his findings to captain Smith and urging him to go below decks as well. It is believed that on his way up he assured a group of passengers, including Mr. and Mrs. Dick: "There is no cause for any excitement. All of you get what you can in the way of clothes and come on deck as soon as you can. She is torn to bits below, but she will not sink if her after bulkheads hold." to assure there was no panic breakout.
• The conversation between the senior cashier of the cashier, Ruth Bowker, and Thomas Andrews Jr in the reception room is omitted where he told her that the ship would sink as told to the 18th of May 1912 after she landed in Plymouth from the SS Lapland. By the way, an interesting trivia relating to Thomas Andrews Jr and the SS Lapland: on the rigging plan of the Lapland as photographed by Robert Welch you can see Thomas Andrews Jr’s signature (a TA with a stripe under it) in the left corner on the bottom.
• At the time when lifeboat number 7 was lowered Thomas Andrews Jr wasn’t on the boat deck as stated in the video. He was seen on B-deck by first class saloon steward Edward Wheelton on the starboard side, Thomas Andrews Jr was making sure the first class staterooms there were empty. Wheelton however mistook lifeboat number 7 for lifeboat number 5 in his testimony since he mentioned witnessing the argument between fifth officer Lowe and Mr. Ismay after he went up to deck which happened at lifeboat number 5. It is however correct that Thomas Andrews Jr helped to load lifeboat number 5.
• Another account that is omitted is that while Thomas Andrews Jr was on B-deck he personally went to the stewardess cabin amidships to see if the two stewardesses who stayed there, first class stewardess Jane Gold and first class stewardess Annie Martin, were already up on deck. To his frustration he discovered they weren’t even properly dressed and told them to hurry up.
• It is omitted that Thomas Andrews Jr was present when Mr. and Mrs. Dick were put into lifeboat number 3, according to the Dicks he brought them towards lifeboat number 3 and even waved them goodbye as it lowered down.
• The sighting of Thomas Andrews Jr by greaser Alfred White at the main feeder switchboard room on the orlop deck is omitted. In this sighting by White he mentioned that Thomas Andrews Jr spoke to two members of the guarantee group, Anthony Wood Frost (the outside foreman engineer of the engine works of Harland and Wolff) and William Henry Marsh Parr (the assistant manager of the electrical department), who were assisting chief electrician Peter Sloan and his fellow electricians. Thomas Andrews Jr suggested to his colleagues that if they stayed too long, there would be no chance for any of them to reach the lifeboats or even to reach the top decks and have some small possibility of swimming away to floating debris. They replied to him that: ‘We’ll stay as long as we can.” In this letter by White, which was send towards the Belfast Newsletter, it is stated that this conversation happened around 1 o’clock.
• Another account is omitted from first class stewardess Violet Jessop. Just before lifeboat number 16 was being loaded Violet Jessop noticed Thomas Andrews Jr and the First class deck steward Ernest Samuel throwing deckchairs from the boat deck.
• In both her letter written on-board the Lapland and a newspaper interview on the 4th of May 1912 first class stewardess Mary Sloan stated she was in lifeboat number 12, without ever mentioning being transferred into a different lifeboat before that. The only proof there is, as far as I am aware, that states that
• In my humble opinion it seems that the account of engineer’s mess steward Cecil Fitzpatrick, which he told after he safely arrived in Plymouth, has been a bit misunderstood if you read deep into it. Fitzpatrick stated that he went from the port side to the starboard side by passing through the navigating bridge where he saw both Thomas Andrews Jr and captain Smith. He stated he fainted against the starboard bridge entrance. Fitzpatrick stated went on to help with collapsible Engelhardt lifeboat A (naming it the starboard collapsible lifeboat) and told that they attempted to swing her into the davits, which the wreck proves to be true. Fitzpatrick stated that he went aft towards the winch on the starboard side before he jumped overboard. Fitzpatrick stated that he saw captain Smith and Thomas Andrews Jr rush past him shortly before they jumped overboard. He never stated with certainty that he saw them jumping overboard together since his statement on the matter was “I suppose they went overboard”.
Despite these points this video serves as a monument to a man who rather saved the lives of others instead of his own. If there are any questions regarding the sources and proof of any of claims above I would gladly present them in a separate statement. To cite Thomas Andrews Jr in a letter written to one of his relatives in 1905:
“Never give information unless you are perfectly sure, better to say you are not sure, but will look the matter up.”
I truly hope that this series about retracing the footsteps of victims of the Titanic will be a solid success, just as I consider everything posted on this channel first class entertained. Keep up the good work as always.
Goodbye and good luck,
Thomas
Hello, 'Thomas Andrews Jr', some interesting insights. The idea that Mrs Andrews was ill is a detail that is new to me; we even spoke with some who have done a lot of research into the Andrews family, and had not been informed of this. A couple of quick notes:
- First of all: There were certain details of Andrews' movements that simply had to be omitted to maintain a reasonable run time during the video.
- Secondly: There were many details we simply could not include due to time, such as details on the H&W Southampton works, which was overall very minor in the grand scheme of things.
- Third, and perhaps most importantly: Fitzpatrick gave multiple accounts, both in the press and to Galloway, and he was very clear that Andrews and Captain Smith went over together. Lack of careful research into his accounts is a mistake that has led some researchers to dismiss the account too prematurely. In the end, Fitzpatrick's account dovetails beautifully with other known and confirmable details, and is the best information we have on the matter.
I hope this helps!
@@atlanticliners
Hello Mr. Layton,
I hope you are doing well. I don't believe we had ever spoken on Encyclopedia Titanica, on which I saw you more active the last few months. I found a statement from a period newspaper that stated that some of the doctor's thought that she wouldn't be able to survive the illness after the news was delivered to her about the sinking and the loss of her husband.
From a writers perspective to keep things flowing I fully understand that some things were omitted. I personally believe most researchers would dismiss something based on possible accusations of sensationalism from the press. I do not dismiss the account in terms of what it tells however, I however personally believe in the retelling represented the last few years of his account doesn't fully match what Fitzpatrick witnessed.
Once again I want to express the best of luck in more videos like this.
@@thomasandrewsjr6520 Hello, thanks for the message. Actually, we are only letting Fitzpatrick speak in his own words. There are multiple accounts that he gave, and not every press article carried the detail that he actually saw Smith and Andrews go over the rail together. After we dug more deeply, we realised that his entire story was more detailed, and that he *did* report that vital piece of information.
@@atlanticliners That's of-course understandable, accounts are the best in their own words after all.
Fitzpatrick despite his terrifying experience seemed to have been decently open about his experiences on-board. In 1953 he told the audience of a screening of the 1953 Titanic movie about what he witnessed and such. It would be interesting to see if anything survives of his statements that he gave there as well.
@@thomasandrewsjr6520 >>It would be interesting to see if anything survives of his statements that he gave there as well.
Sounds like a beautiful soul. I love anything about the titanic as I’m sure most do. It’s nice when you can add this truly human element as there’s so many amazing story’s that never got the chance to be herd with her sinking
This was a beautiful and respectful story. Thank you. RIP to all who perished on the Titanic
This was an incredible documentary. Thank you for such an amazing 45 minutes. Please do EJ Smith, and Ismay next.
Hi, I'm new to your channel, and love ur works!
I hope more people will know about the shipwrecks, been forgotten is most the most terrified thing to me.
Bless all lost souls and those beautiful ships, rip.
Thank you for all your hard work. The time and love you put in each one is very appreciated. Happy holidays.
I absolutely love your vidoes with the care and honor you give to both the subject and the people involved. Thank you for not sensationalizing the topic you're talking about just for views and instead you bring the people back to life even if it's only for the length of your videos. You put us on the decks, the cabins, and even the main street of the towns you walked through. You take a shipwreck and bring it back to it's former majestic glory, you turn a ghost town into the bustling city it once was and you do it with respect to not only the ones that perished but the ones that were left behind.
This video is very well done. Learned a great deal, thanks to all of you! You really brought Thomas Andrews to life and light.
Quite touching and great documentary you've put together. I've been so much into the wreck lately that this was refreshing. Good job.
This is fantastic! So well done and truly gave honor to such a deserving man.
Beautiful homage, beautiful, indeed.
Very well, and respectfully told. Also the production for this all round was amazing, I particularly enjoyed the choice of music. Thanks for a great documentary
Another excellent video, Tom! You have a grand gift of presenting stories and ideas that always give the viewer a unique perspective on things, which are so well done! Looking forward to more! Cheers, Jeff.
Well done! Andrews would be proud
This is so beautifully done and illustrates a great man better and more honestly than anything I've seen before! Another excellent documentary well done!
Great, now I'm gonna get sentimental every time i come across Irish soda bread 😭 this was a really nice tribute to someone who sounded like a kind, hard working man
Beautifully done, sir.
This is excellent. Massive Titanic fan here, and have always been interested and quite fond of Tommy. Though I knew quite a lot of what was mentioned in this video, a lot I didn't. Thank you for creating this and sharing it.
Thank you very much!
Say the titanic never went down. I think a lot about his character can be said just by other people not just willing but actually wanting to go the extra mile for him. All seemed to feel bless by his presences alone. And how he fought for other people's lifes instead of his own. Which you can tell all he wanted was to be at home with his family. What a hero.
Thanks for these background infos. The Titanic is just the most beautiful ship ever built, also from the outside she looks just gracious, I'd be glad for someone to prove me wrong.
Beautiful documentary. Thank you all. R.I.P. Thomas Andrews.
This is so sad thank you for making this.
This was well done! I feel like I got to know this man through your video. I feel saddened at his loss, as though I too, knew him. I think that is the draw of this beautiful ship , we were able to hear from the survivors and hear their stories from them. While with other shipwrecks, we just read the tragedy, but never really get to know the people aboard. In any case my heart goes out to all who have died at sea. 🙏