How One Move Changed Cloyster Forever.
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- Pokemon Competitive Singles is a world wherein Cloyster once reigned supreme as a defensive utility Pokemon. This did not last forever though as Cloyster was outclassed by new faces, and suffered from the introduction of mechanics like Stealth Rock.
In Gen 5 OU, Cloyster saw an enormous identity shift upon receiving the all new boosting move "Shell Smash". This single move turned Cloyster from a washed up defensive Utility Pokemon, into one of the scariest Offensive threats in the entire game.
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0:53 Gen 1
3:57 Gen 2
5:51 Gen 3
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9:47 Gen 5
14:16 Cloyster in Ubers Formats
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Some will never figure out how to get Cloyster in Pokemon Scarlet and Pokemon Violet. But famous player Jim Cool is well aware of the Best Cloyster Moveset in Competitive, and even how to Cloyster Shiny Farm. Many aren't and never will be. That's just the unfortunate reality of the world.
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Correction: Gems do not boost Multi-hit attacks any more than regular attacks
I also forgot to mention Cloysters abuse of Kings Rock. Since each hit of Icicle Spear had the Flinch chance, there was something like a 40% chance to flinch.
Very non-epic. I guess I erased that one from my memory
Cloyster simply made you flinch in terror of its sheer abuse of the King's Rock held item.
Also saying "zee" instead of "zed"
Only we say zee lol. Most of europe says zed @ddgnp1057
@@victorlinares4137 Yeah I know I'm Australian as well.
@@victorlinares4137Americans say zee
also reminder in generation 5 rock blast's accuracy was increased from 80% to 90% and icicle spear when from 10 to 25 bp, both which made a huge difference
Went
Rock Blast should be 100 accuracy, GF has a fetish with giving rock moves imperfect accuracy.
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Shell Smash Cloyster feels so good to pull off. You turn into a literal machine gun
Its like you throw out this big ass rock its not too scary its hard to kill but suddendly it starts rolling down a hill and murders everyone
Shell Smash + Skill Link and the world is your Cloyster
Plus focus sash
@@MountainViews90 I'm more of a white herb guy, but sash can be useful sometimes
@@ShatteredQvartz Yea the only problem with sash is entry hazards. White herb is very good. Wish I got a chance to see how the gems worked before they nerfed it.
@@MountainViews90 With that specdef, the NeverMeltIce damage bonus makes a good shake of sense to me since you're multi-turn invested into shellsmash that they can pivot on.
@@ShatteredQvartzSame, I’m a White Herb Cloyster fan
Should had also mentioned the gen 8 kings rock trolling
I totally forgot about that. I must have Repressed such a thing
Very gimmick-y but funny if you can get it to proc. I used to run a beat up kings rock weavile lmao. Didn't get very far up the ladder but was fun when it got the flinch.
@@jimothycoolthis is insane
@@MountainViews90 the problem was it wasnt a gimmick. It was genuinely ran in early gen 8 and your can reasonably expect kings rock on cloyster even on high ladder
I ran a King’s Rock Morpeko in-game. The ParaFlinch was so evil, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
Iron curling iron needs to save the cloyster fanbase
Cloyster's design is so good and iconic really goes to show how simplicity can go a long way
I love my oyster with huge spikes as well
Makes me wonder why it never got rough skin or rough shell as an ability
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Na false swipe is the goat@@jakelowk3y793
0:07 *HAACHAMA~CHAMA JUMPSCARE*
I was literally about to comment this exact same thing.
And bocchi the rock's cloyster at 0:54
"It's Landoverus." Said Landorus Therian after the opposing Cloyster clicked Icicle Spear.
I think game freak should make models for all shell smash pokemon that shows the pokemon without their shell after they use the move. That way you can sweep someone with a sphere with a horn
Only if they also make a model for contrary shuckle with bigger and bigger shells
*in light of some players expecting us to put effort in to this game, shellsmash has been removed from all pokemon.*
@@jasonbarry3301 that's funny until you realize they literally already did this and it's actually a real thing that they did and not a joke, then it just becomes depressing
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@@rajkanishuif you're talking about dexit, that's a hilariously baby tantrum. 'Dexit' first happened in Gen 3 and nobody cried because the world wasn't yet obsessed with being enraged by anything and everything they see on the internet lmfao.
There's really nothing exponential about the gem with cloyster's multi hit moves. It does apply to every hit, but it's still the usual 1.5x boost, even if it was one big hit it would do the same. If you look at the calcs and just remove the ice gem, the min roll goes from 90% to 60%, as in it loses a 1.5x boost. There's nothing special going on there. It just hits really hard to begin with.
I agree, it was a pretty weird way to phrase it. I guess its just that the 5-hit moves have such an absurd base power that with the gem boost it starts picking up unreasonable KOs. But like you said, there is no specific interaction between gems and multi-hit moves.
Was about to post this. Sadly a couple of years ago, that term was somehow adopted in everyday babbling, and has since lost all meaning.
Not it simply means "a lot". Literally.
If we were talking Little Cup, I could believe that there was some weird rounding going on that made multi-hits better, but that's unlikely to matter at level 100.
Cloyster was once the gold standard of defensive pokemon in the early competitive metagames
Defined by it's absurdly high defense stat, solid typing for the time, and excellent utility
However, as the franchise has progessed with mechanical changes in new installments
However as the franchise has progressed with mechanical changes in new installments as well as new Pokemon releasing to outclass cloyster
Its value as a defensive utility Pokemon dwindled and its viability suffered.
Cloyster Just Didn’t Work The Way It Was Initially Designed Anymore
This is indeed Cloyster’s Capable Clamp
He really was outstanding in his field
Some will never figure out how to get Cloyster to Shell Smash in Pokemon Scarlet and Pokemon Violet.
Jim will. Others? I couldn't say
Egg moves are easier than ever before, just get the mons you want to get the move from say Poltergeist to hold the Mirror Herb
Every clam has his day folks.
okay now we need the sequel about how cloyster got king’s rock banned
You know, how it pissed off one too many people with its 41% chance to flinch lol.
Wish it had only been Cloyster with that. People forget the slightly less abnoxious but stronger troll Weavile with axel and beat up. Plus a few other kr cheese mons
@@limon16025 Was just telling someone about that earlier lol. Kings rock should be banned for multi - hit moves or only register once not per hit.
to this day, cloyster lurks in AG, waiting for unexpected trainers
Never clicked a video so fast in my life. Shell Smash Cloyster was the first thing that got me hooked on singles in GEN 5 OU. The satisfaction of farming low ELO with two Shell Smashes was peak gaming.
touros being nicknamed haachama chama is bleach to the eyes she is so cursed
Randbats enjoyers knew exactly what move it was when they clicked this video.
Shell smash Cloyster looked so powerful when I fought against It for the first time
My focus sash Mimikyu got completely destroyed
I hope this is satire, disguise breaks sash on its own
@@dragonrage778back in the seventh generation disguise left you at full hp, so maybe you got a guaranteed 2 hit survival? Idk
@@thobbitpretty much this
@@dragonrage778 i hope this is satire because that's a pretty snarky way to be wrong lol
6:02 Skarmory and Forretress were already in Gen 2 though. I guess it's more the sand dominance tipping the scales in their favor over Cloyster with the generation shift.
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Cloyster-with its enormous 180 base defense-is one of the best Tauros checks in the game.
Cloyster has invaded my home. I heard smashing from my closet and opened it to see that the oyster had grown enormous. I tried to run, but could not outpace the Shell Smash-boosted bivalve. I cried “This is insane!” before the Gem-boosted Icicle Spear killed me instantly.
I used Shell Smash Cloyster in either Gen 6 or 7 Ubers to get the surprise sweep. I even encounter an occasional Shell Smash Torterra in the current meta game.
Lickitung was once the platinum standard of Pokémon in the early gangnam style metagames.
Let's remind ourselves how truly insane Cloyster was
Still nothing as insane as the scarecrow that was outstanding in its field
Patron vote, or did the Cloyster mafia leave some spikes at your door after the last iceberg video?
I kinda wanna try heavy duty boots overcoat cloyster in gen 9 now. Sounds like a great 1 time bring in draft league
amazing video jim, really great idea for this one
As somebody now involved in oyster research, this is accurate. I always have to bring an umbrella to protect myself from the numerous icicles barraging the lab.
I've always thought about, if you had to create a team of 6 Gen 1 Pokemon, and create an OU team for every single generation with those Pokemon, which Pokemon would you use? Zapdos and Cloyster are the ones that jump out to me first. They have stood the test of time.
Cloyster: From offensive-looking to terrifying offensive force
This video reminded me of all the stupid and broken glitches and "quirks" that gen 1 mechanics had. Thank god we didn't have to deal with that for long
fantastic video. Love the content
Cloyster is one of my favorite pokemon! It's nice to see it be good.
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This was a really cool video. Cloy Boys of the world rejoice!
It should be noted that Cloyster had (or even still has, though I've since stopped playing current gen OU since DLC1's release) a niche in Generation Nine OU on Psychic Terrain hyperoffense teams. The ability to get in with minimal risk of rocks chip due in part to Psyspam's paranoid hazard denial gives Cloyster opportunities to do what Psyspam does best:
Click setup, and then kill with buttons.
Hell, if you were really insane, pivoting in on the correct physical threat would let you get away with running Expert Belt over a Focus Sash, which enables you to smack the hell out of offensive Kingambit, who otherwise is only 2HKO'd by Drill Run and tends to bully components of Psyspam with its dark typing.
6:57 it’s pretty appropriate that Cloyster’s Gen 3 sprite looks less like it’s got a creepy grin and more like it’s having an existential crisis
Great video as usual. One thing, I'm not sure if this is where you'll be doing a lot of your recording from that location, but if so the car horns are really obtrusive. I think with some gain play and eqing you could get most of that out
Always been one of my fav mons besides the gen 2 eeveelutions. Glad to see it being covered.
11:30 my man had a whole Maroon 5 team
I fuckin love cloyster, he’s one of my comfort pick water types in gen 5 just cuz I like it and in casual whenever I can get my mitts on a shellder.
I've always liked Cloyster. Thank you so much
Never played competitive, but i played against friends a lot during gen 1. I remember discovering how good it was against my friends. They all hated my Cloyster.
Cloyster has always been a pokemon I oddly like.
Mr. Jimothybcool.... if you see this comment, could you please drop a "folks this is insane" in your next video? that would make my day 😢
That would be insane.
I love that every video has chrono trigger music
And now Cloyster has been banned from Gen 5 OU
Damn i love these "how this rby pokemon evolved through the generations" videos
Jimothy cool is false swipe gaming confirmed?
Where's my boy Diophantine when I need him for his expert breakdown of GSC Cloyster?
>Tauros named Haachama
Excuse me sir, I think that's supposed to be a spider.
Good video
I'm suprised you didn't talk about the kings rock cloyster problem
Cloyster was once the gold standard of defensive Pokémon in the early competitive metagames;
Defined by its absurdly high defence stat, solid typing for the time, and excellent utility.
However, as the franchise has progressed with mechanical changes and new installments, as well as new pokemon releasing to outclass Cloyster, its value as a defensive utility pokemon dwindled, and it's viability suffered.
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No mention of kings rock cloyster ?
Genuinely wondering why there's never been a freeze clause in Gen 1, considering there's sleep clauses in like, every gen, and freeze is THAT much more brutal in Gen 1. Interesting
There is a freeze clause lol
@@tyler4965 is there? I had no idea lol, the way it was being discussed in the video very much soundex like freeze was a huge, unattended problem haha, maybe it was just me
cloyster pulled a reverse talonflame
whats the banjo kazooie song you use in your videos? huge fan jimothy!
it can also end a gen 9 randbats game by clicking shell smash
shell smash imo is one of the cheapest moves in the game
essentially 2 dragon dances, or the offensive benefits of geomancy, in one turn and the negative impacts can be cleared with the right held item
its cheap as hell especially on a mon like polteageist
gen 1 for it's simplicity has so many good normal type moves like how many can you name. slash stomp headbutt karate chop kinda body slam hyper beam I'm forgetting a few too asdhoif
Ngl, I was expecting to hear something along the lines of "Cloy-stir." at the beginning of the video.
Cloyster in gen 5 can even run special sets / mix because of shell smash. Also in gen 1 cloyster can trap a mon if used hpbeam and is slower than cloyster bc of clamp
you can actually thaw out in gen 1 if you get hit by a fire type attack like fire blast, still an amazing video though keep up the good work!!
When I first saw Shell Smash Cloyster, I faced one in a 3v3 Wifi match bringing my CroCune Suicune. It managed to 2HKO it. It was then I realized, Cloyster is not what it once was.
Put it under a pyshic terrain and it's a monster
No mention of the kings rock shenanigans?
hey i think the link to outro song is broken. it keeps taking me to a different song
Ironically, the higher end of power Z moves buff less than the lower power moves. So Gems in those moves actually deal more damage than Z moves. Game design.
I get that after torterra smashes its shell maybe it can go on a mad rampage. What does cloyster do exactly? Once the shell is smashed it's basically just a little black blob
Well you see, Cloyster is a Gastly in shell armour, so once it has been smashed, you're left with a Gastly poltergeisting the spikes and shards to fling at the opponents!
...Either that, or maybe it just smashes the outer purple/blue shell and leaves the inner grey one. Then it can scoot over and shank people with the long horn
Doesn't a 50% boost of a single hit move and 50% boost of a multi-hit move do the same thing if the two moves have the same power?
Yeah, not sure why that was mentioned. It just let it blow up a mon that normally checked it like the rest of the gem abusers
How should i play cloyster in gen 9 OU ?
Cloyster def never used Icicle Spear in gen 4. Rock Blast was the only move that it could abuse Skill Link with
Didn't know clamp was that strong in gen 1
I do wish that type gems would return but reworked
Taking Arceus plates but sacrifice consistent damage increase for a 1 turn damage increase that is a higher boost than Arceus plates (but I do acknowledge that some Pokémon would still get use if Type Gems just gave the same boost as Arceus Plates but was consumed after use)
Clamp clamp clamp get flinched get flinched
Can you talk about the best catcher mons in the history ex. false swipe+spore breloom
Jimothy @jimothycool , are you a native english speaker ? I hear a little accent, maybe Dutch or Swedish.
He’s Australian
what i want to know is why is closyster an ice type?
I like your content mr cool
14:03
"Quack"
I fear this Oyster from randbats, same as Venomoth or other threatening boost sweepers
Every Oyster has its October
Surprised you didn't mention king's rock.
Yeah I thought the same, SS OU Cloyster King's rock was so disruptive that it is part of the reason why it got banned
Meanwhile, Inner focus mons:
@@frankcaggiano8282 How many of them can take multiple hits while also being viable against more than just Cloyster?
@@gregorymirabella1423 dunno, doesn't matter really. There's your answer. Some answers are just better than others 🤷🏼 That being said though, Lucario?
Ice variants of Gastly
What it like in Australia today?
HAACHAMA THE TAUROS?!?!
I want Cloyster to get a mega form.
jim i just want you to know that I've been thinking of you
Holy shit Watashi from Humanity is Doomed
1:37 I really thought he was Look Maxing here💀
It’s gonna be stealth rock, isn’t it.
Edit: damn.
In a way you're right.
Opinions on the Cloyster ban??
Cloyster.