Small Scale Grain Production with Mark Dempsey
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- Mark Dempsey of the Carolina Farm Stewardship Association discusses the potential and parameters of small scale grain production for livestock and much more. Learn different characteristics of grain crops and how to best utilize them in your farm or garden in combination with cover crops that will help provide the nitrogen or whatever is needed for the grain you are growing.
"Taking it back from big ag." Hell yes, my friend! I was already interested in growing grain in my garden. But one autumn, we were driving through southern Oklahoma during the wheat harvest. The whole world smelled like Roundup. We were much more interested after that.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind a little less cancer in my bread and tortillas...
Amaranth and other loose seed varieties can be planted in your chickens roaming area. The chickens can knock the grain and eat it.
its time to empower folks in peer to peer economics, normal people have the power to grow, and produce anything, if we can work together.
Totally agree
So anyone looking for an investment farm in Colorado? -_-
There are mini combine harvesters for wheat, rice and they could do most other grain crops, legumes and other seed crops. The problem is that they are made in India by various companies and there is no US, Australian or EU importer. Advertising in English is very badly done. They are the size of a large ride on mower with a 1.5 meter cutter width. There are also push behind micro reapers. All we need is an importer in each Australia, the US and Britain. There are also some made in Japan.
Here in 2022 and loving this information.
Thank you for this. I'd been searching everywhere for this type of detailed information. Beyond informative and empowering to the organic grower at any scale.
thank you so much for this video, i want to try growing everything i can to liberate my friends' and family's health from Big AG and Food's chemical deathgrip
20:15 It's that way because with the winter wheat you don't want it shooting up too tall with nitro if winter is coming (including high winds, heavy, snow, hail, that can flatten(lodge) the plants , at that time you only want its roots to grow deep and large to help endure the winter, and in the spring you can up the nitro
Thank you so much this video has been beyond informative. Jist what I have been looking for, for along time.
Sincerely, Aaron
at about the 1:10:00 mark, there is an inherent assumption that for some is incorrect. Neither chickens (nor really any of the animals) should be on a total grain diet. Chickens are omnivores, so they really need animal protein. Cattle, should be on grass with as little grain as possible. Pigs are omnivores. Also, just as many of the plants have incredibly valuable traits and multiple benefits, so do the animals, aaanndd. this kinda assumes for instance, an acre can only be one crop or animal at a time, when in fact, they can be if not concurrent on any given parcel, they can at least be closely following each other ie: cattle, 3 days later poultry, and repeat a couple or few months later. Many many more options between plant and animal combinations.
i also thought that the land area per bird was too much
chicken can be fed from compost pile and they can also eat insects that can be pests
but i think the birds he refers to are meat birds in cages
I did not not think the presentation was as focused as it could have been. Since the videos are so long, have you considered time stamps to help viewers jump to the section they are interested in?
Great Idea, I second the proposition.
@6:35 "I think it's important that you accept that small scale grain production is never going to be as efficient as large scale ag production, from the perspective of the pounds of grain you can get for your hour of work."
Any thoughts on the Marc Bonfils method of growing winter wheat? It's a manual no-till method, similar to Fukuoka's methods for growing rice. It was historically called St. John's (after the Feast of St. John the Baptist, around the summer solstice) or mid-summer wheat. It is manually intensive (I don't see how it could easily be mechanized), best suited to relatively small plots. Into an established cover crop of white clover, wheat is sparsely planted (30-36" grid) no earlier than a week before the summer solstice. Heritage long straw wheat landraces such as Banatka are customary. Because wheat is self fertile, the sparse planting doesn't affect pollination and seed set. Shortening day length will only permit vegetative growth, but no seed heads. Roots will penetrate deeply (up to 3 meters deep, depending on soil conditions), and the following spring will regrow vigorously and produce impressive yields. Because of the deep root structure, it will be more drought tolerant. Into the still-growing crop, the next season's seed will be interplanted at the appropriate time, with top seeding of the white clover, as needed. Like Fukuoka, crop rotation isn't generally practiced, at least over the short term.
Bonfils reported wheat yields as high as 15 metric tonnes (150 quintals) per hectare (about 6 1/2 short tons per acre, if I did my math correctly). Considering that the current world record is a bit over 17 tonnes per hectare, with heavy mechanized inputs, cultivation, irrigation, fertilization, fumigation, etc. that is pretty outstanding for a manual method, even if it is really only applicable to small scale use.
Harvesting with scythe (possibly with a grain cradle) or sickle and manual threshing would likely be most appropriate, though a small stripper gatherer such as is used for experimental plots might be workable.
Traditionally, mid-summer rye was also cultivated, though the seed must be planted (hand broadcast, typically) much more densely to assure proper pollination by wind (rye isn't self fertile). However, rye can be repeatedly grazed for several years before eventually allowing it to head out and bear a harvest. Rye was an important component of northern European swidden agriculture, along with peas and turnips, in freshly burned over forest plots.
Love this channel. Thanks! 🇧🇷
That was a great breakdown. I learned a ton. Thank you!
Awesome presentation! Very interesting, thanks for posting!
I’m hoping to plant a red winter wheat plot(40x100feet or so) this fall. I want to have wheat berries to mill for homegrown bread for my family.
Sounds awesome, good luck!
Congrats, incredibly informative. Thanks for sharing.
Very informative video, however I feel it is not titled properly. When I saw the title I was expecting content to be more about tools/equipment needed to effectively plant and harvest different grains on small scale. Also expecting ways to boost yields with cover crops or what soil types are better for certain grain production...
I haven't watched it yet - what is it actually about?
@@artmeetsearth630 I can’t remember. I watched it 3 years ago.
@@artmeetsearth630 mostly an academic presentation on grains. If you have been observant and around farming nothing is new other than the language they use to describe what you have seen.
Part 2 goes into more detail on actual growing practices
Don't forget you can eat the leaves of some of these especially cowpeas and amaranth. I'm always looking for every opportunity to add more greens into my diet as a nutritionist.
I found this rewlly ibteresting and useful. I have quinoa growing this year and im always experimenting with staples. thanks
What area are you in growing the quinoa?
Terri Fioretti just a 20 ft row three plants wide. Im only messing about but it should be interesting!
Thanks
heirloom yellow corn is around 10% as noted 16:50 but the dark kernel corn (blue, purple, red) are upwards of 15%
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This small scale is called self-sufficiency, indepepdence. !
And Triticale a new blend of wheat (triticum) and barley (secale) , the best of both 'worlds'.
Rotation seems pretty important for small scale farming. Plant a legume first for it's nitrogen and then a cereal crop following. How long a growing season do I need to get both in a season?
Mars Rover look at 56:30 it adresses on your question, otherwise i would say it depends on your varieties that u want to plant and on the local frosts at your lokation as much as the intensity of the sun :)
I am wondering about the difference in nutrient content with sprouting the grains and cereals. Would that up the protein? Thank you.
The red amaranth is possibly Hopi red-dye amaranth.
Looking to grow grains for my chickens ...I have Yellow Dent Corn, Oats, Winter Rye, Spelt, Black Tip Wheat, and Japanese Buckwheat to experiment with
Would be awesome if we could get FEL skidsteer reaper binder and a three point thresher.
BCS
There is a company in England et India that makes the equipment described
Did you count the extras that come with the animals like milk, butter, cheese, yogurt, lard, broths and stocks? Will those side products help to bring the animals up closer to the value of calories and nutrients?
More importantly we need to expose the anti nutrients from those foods that are responsible for our leading causes of death. Carcinogens like TMAO, NEU5GC, heterocyclic amines, and artery cloggers like saturated fat and cholesterol. If we factor in medical expenses, the cost of animal products is beyond caviar.
Gigachad
canola benefits please explain.
Also keep in mind that not all of those nutrients in plants are bioavailable to humans or even all livestock. Birds are best adapted to eating grains
No advise on how to harvest without expensive equipment
Part 2
Agroecology is the answer, see what the peasants are doing in other countries, agroecology in the USA would not only bring down global agribusiness and stop the violent dispossession of the rural poor, it can heal Americans and our society
The main advantage of meat is that they are self mobile self replicating harvesters that can convert inedible crop waste and weed plants into food. If you have them in a barn and taking feed to them then its less productive. That is really only required in places with hard winters or deep desert. Saudi Arabia is almost sell sufficient in meat today but has to import the feed seed. Also if seeds are sprouted to spout mats and fed to livestock the energy to protein ratio improves. All the numbers you're showing are for high latitude meat production not range meat production, a common problem with university data. Fencing technology and cost is the limit in free range meat production.
idea is good for small farmers and way out for organic and healthy food for own consumption
I would not grow chick peas. I grow them for a snack. They yield very little. Half cup per plant abouts maybe less. But they do taste great fresh!.
Great video though!
I know that this was posted five years ago, but amaranth is a complete protein and it's also 14% protein. Or at least that's what I thought
Eggs should be factored in next to chicken
Here's the thing: you can run about 8 sheep on an acre of good pasture. I'm most familiar with Romanovs, they're probably not the most productive breed, but still, a Romanov sheep has a 250% lambing rate, 45lbs hanging weight per lamb (at six months), and breeds comfortably three times in two years (can breed twice a year, but rates drop, so it's probably not a good idea).
So that's 8 x 2.5 x 45 x 1.5 = 1350 lbs of lamb per acre/year. Hanging weight, not live weight. All of it usable for roast, burger, steak, broth, etc. Complete protein, balanced micronutrients (you can, in theory, be healthy on pasture raised meat alone ... not suggesting it as a good diet, just making a point), collagen, etc.
Is that really less nutritional value than 7 tonnes of corn? Or any other combo of grain? It's definitely not less monetary value ... and I bet there's a good reason for that.
And, in many climates, you can make certain sheep breeds (Romanov, St. Croix) work without cutting hay, winter housing, or pharmaceuticals. So it's fewer inputs than grain, even if you're doing the grain on a small scale, without anything fancy. It's certainly less work than grain without much equipment.
The biggest piece of equipment you'll need for sheep is a freezer. But that's strictly for pasture efficiency. Unlike grain, live stock doesn't have to be harvested at the end of the growing season. They can be preserved indefinitely, just by not killing them.
I like my frming explanation by a farmer not a corporate power point explanation
The need for this group is the milling and processing. My idea would be a mobile grainery.
Mount the equipment on a semi trailer that can be transported to individual farms where they grow and harvest the crop.
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My screen is black. Is it me or did he forget to turn the camera on ? Sound is good 👍. Hmm
Its you
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So did you work to earn the money to buy your land, equipment, etc? Because I wonder about the economics if you aren't born into land or money. I'd also like to see a comprehensive profit/loss statement to see if this pencils out economically without being supported by a trust fund.
I bought five acres by saving my part-time money. My husband bought a farmall tractor with his money from playing piano for church. You don’t have to inherit a farm.
"This guy is saying stuff I don't understand; guess he must be cheating or something."
Here in southern England bare land sells for a minimum of £10000 per acre but the smaller the area the higher the unit price . I know plenty of people who hobby farm . They all have an alternative income ,usually quite a big one , a company pension , a trust fund , or maybe a partner who runs at IT company . Now at the moment wheat is selling for under £200 a ton and you will get if you are very lucky four tons per acre . So realistically your sales figure is around £600 per acre per annum . Go try it folks
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Great, interesting presentation, but his speech is not clear and distinct and I miss quite a number of his words.
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The continued lips smacking an "um" during your presentation was very disturbing for me. Maybe it's just me.
stop the smacking sound at the end of a sentence, it sounds horrible.