Nick Heys asks the questions: about the Fabian Society, Keynesianism & its links to technocracy
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2024
- In the second of our on-going series of conversations, Nick & Nigel discuss the takeover of society via brainwashing and propaganda undertaken by the Fabian Society and others pushing authoritarianism under the guise of ‘Keynesianism’.
Link to Nick's site here: / @heysreviews
wow really eye opening , the wolf in sheeps clothing speaks volumes to me as a Christian these Fabián chaps sound evil. The east 17 reference to garys economics is spot on , that guys channel is odd and im 100 percent he is reading a script. Socialism is just a fancy name for theft. It is a corrupted form of the Christian ethic when it is divorced from real belief in a creator.
The Fabian Society was literally started by bored, middle class atheists who all mostly lived off income earned through capitalism, who then dedicated their lives to pushing and promoting socialism. Absolutely crazy
Enjoyed this discussion very much! Always grateful to bounce ideas around as I learn my way forward on these and related topics.
For anybody looking for further info on the Fabian Society and this long-term rollout, by way of Keynesian Economics, of the Big Nanny State system of dependency and top down technocratic control, have a look at my Fabian Freeway playlist where we are reading the book cover to cover.
Cheers for having me on again Nigel!
Yesterday I updated my prevent duty course for my new job. I noticed how much it has changed since 2020 to include a huge section on Right Wing Extremism.
They didnt go into examples but I know they were referring to people like myself, who oppose the narrative and go on anti-government freedom marches etc etc
Questioning the gov't is going be illegal very soon I would expect, this is 1984 after all
Oh wow, I sense great content to a video. Have you got a link to the on-line questionnaire?
@@nigelwatson2750 The course content is on a website called The National College.
But you will find loads of online providers offering cheap or free "Prevent Duty" training in educational settings.
@@nigelwatson2750 There are plenty of low cost or virtually free Prevent Duty courses online.
The one I used was The National College.
Thank you for all your work very educational 😊
Well I enjoyed that. Thank you both.
Good conversation both, appreciated 👌🏼
Glad you found it useful. Please share it
@@nigelwatson2750Will do
An honest and educative conversation, gentleman. Cheers.
I read Keynes had an unhealthy interest in young boys. However when this is ever mentioned to Keynesian apologists they'll just accuse you of homophobia.
It's hinted on his Wikipedia. One of his first lovers was a member of the MacMillan family and guess which famous, publishing house published his first book? He suddenly got interested in women in his late 30s and married a Russian ballerina
No children though
@@NN-bk5bb And that's surprising......
What an interesting discussion on so many levels. Regarding older people dying who were progressing well, I wonder if that is why the theory of suddenly having a "last hurrah" before you go is promoted? Plenty to digest, thank you!
They're really pushing assisted dying in the UK, in Canada it has been rolled out for quite a while, with numbers being assisted by the state to die going up and up year on year
Terminal lucidity is real but it lasts hours. A day. That's it. Not two or three or four days.
Fantastic talk, Thank you Nigel and Nick. Very interesting. xxxx
Thanks for your feedback!
Excellent discussion
Another interesting and educational interview 👍
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Good point about freedom and the sacrifices people will or will not make for freedom
People do not like sacrifice full stop. It's part of the humanist, scientific, materialist worldview that's we've been indoctrinated into, which states the highest form of good is whatever makes a particular individual happy. Usually, short term sacrifice does not equate to (immediate) happiness, therefore people avoid it
@@HEYSREVIEWS some people are allergic to nihilism and will sacrifice to get out of this nihilistic atmosphere.
@@NN-bk5bb Happy to count myself among those blessed with that particular affliction :)
Thank you so much gentlemen, much appreciated
You are welcome.
This was very interesting. Thank you
I am so grateful Nigel for your Heysreviews recommend , i am now a regular and its one of my favourite channels , obviously yours included 😅
Great discussion gentlemen , God Bless you both.
Hey Lisa! :D
@@HEYSREVIEWS 😁 hey 👋🏻
Thanks, Lisa, and thanks to Nick for coming on and doing a 2nd chat.
Thanks 💪
The Neutral Sentencing people bumped off three of my grandparents. Two when I was in my teens that didn't add up to me and I had lots of questions that were dismissed ( Guess I was a pain back then too before I knew it ) and then my grandmother who I was very close to literally bumped off and being overseas I was only told after the fact. I went ballistic and was actually told by a relative that had I been there she wouldn't have died because I would have made sure of it. They knew monkey business had gone on and here was me demanding answers and accountability. I wasn't very popular I can tell you.
You've reminded me of being told off as a kid for asking too many questions
@@nigelwatson2750 lol me too. I always had a why.
Good talk there Nigel, I don't usually last long with many interviews on YT but this was was quite upbeat and had plenty of variety and topics of discussion. 👍
Thanks, and thanks to Nick for coming on
37:01 I left the mainland for an island when i was displaced and told to accept emergency housing.
Simultaneously, the village id served as housekeeper to priests in for six years ; was housing nigh on a thousand fighting age men between two four and five star hotels 🙈
40% UN funded!
Rape alarms and working in pairs at both locations 😭
Many of 19th century medical procedures and products were amazing and are making a comeback in modern societies. There is conscientious move back to homeopathy and the natural path.
Ok thanks nigel
Gents, another conversation on this for the morons like me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you both ❤
Wish Nigel would let him speak
The objective this time was for Nick to ask me questions. I was being interviewed by Nick, not the other way around. I also offered Nick the opportunity to put the video on his channel.
Very interesting talk x
I'm also an imperfect carnivore, but even doing it imperfectly has been a game changer!!
Video coming soon on this, Nick.
Gary's Economics should be renamed to Gary's Communism.
100%
Or Gary's fascism
@@nigelwatson2750 national socialism/fascism and socialism/communism is pretty much the same thing except one concentrates inwardly and discriminates on grounds of race the other is an outward looking world movement that discriminates on grounds of class. Both are socialism and take control of everything in the state and put dictators in power.
@nigelwatson2750 now now mr marxist, you are showing your liar and criminal , and totalitarian and fraudulent mindset .
Yes... He wants to tax the 0.01% who stash their money away. They should be taxed heavily. They are the problem that causes poverty. If you're a working class sun reading tory you've probably been brainwashed.
People also overlook the eugenics that was going on in nz Germany.
" The Culture of Critique" by Kevin McDonald is a must.
Any chance of a playlist of your collaboration/interview videos, pls?
Fabius Cunctator-"The Delayer".
Spot on. Their other emblem was the tortoise with the slogan 'when I strike, I strike hard' - I think they struck hard in 2020
Fascinating piece! Thanks both. The Fabians interest me and I read quite a bit of Russell, Wells and Shaw. Later I discovered that Shaw could be cruel. I dunno about Russell or Wells. Russell met Lenin in person once and got the measure of the man; a monster. Unlike the other two Russell was not a eugenicist. In fact I do not believe he was even a Fabian; just a member of the Bloomsbury set - more cultural than political. Might be wrong here.
I know little of Keynes but did see his mathematical theory of money and he was no slouch. However, economics is still science and if the math axioms dont match reality then it is a fairytale. (Apparently there was a beautiful cosmological theory once lauded by plaudits that contained, amongst others, a formula for the size of the Universe. Someone later took the trouble of working it out, with known gravitational constants etc, and it came to a bit more than 50cm³.) Der Schein und das Sein oder l'être et le paraître.
I am 60 and last saw a doctor at 17 for a serious wound; dont trust them much but some like Vernon C are good.
I have a playlist on my channel with the full reading of the book Fabian Freeway, you might enjoy it to learn more about the Fabians. Currently livestreaming 3x week as we read through the book in its entirety. We also did a Bertrand Russel book earlier this year, the book was Has Man A Future? and was a lot of nuclear war fear porn. But did betray his advocacy of a scientific technocratic world system. Cheers
I agree with Nick.
Vertical and horizontal ruling systems!
That's part of what GIUREH says on his channel, the horizontal wars are manufactured to prevent a vertical war from ever taking place
Yes it is! I'm assuming you have watched a few of his videos? Very interesting! I don't get to meet many people who understand the concept! Once you do it all makes sense!
@@martd1352 I've checked out a few yeah, really good stuff and an important concept I had never heard discussed anywhere else
@@HEYSREVIEWStime to review Dune Mr Heys!!!!!
I'll come back to this. Hope it covers things like their 'private purpose' political party. Their "friends" societies. It looks like it covers quite a lot.
For further detail have a look at the playlist tab on my channel, I'm live streaming 3x per week reading the book in its entirety from cover to cover. So far we've learned that not only did the Fabians establish the LSE, but they also played a role in the creation of the Royal Institute for International Affairs, and the Council on Foreign Relations
@@HEYSREVIEWS among other things. They're involved with Russia '17. Beatrice's opening pages in Our Partnership say as much.
Odious debt
The national debt is there debt to us the people are the priority-preferential in fact
If there's a national debt where's the national credit to balance the books
All accrual accounting when there's a credit there's always a debit debt of equal amount
Ask the treasury & Central bank where the national credit is
We are living under 'Keynes on steroids'. Myself, I think he would be shocked at where have ended up.
I would like to know whether he would be shocked or proud
"We are all Keynesians now" - that's what they want us to think!
My comments seem to have disappeared???????
Try again, but use c0d€
I get that a lot.
Mine as well
you must of said a naughty word the elites dont want us talking about.
GDP - what’s the problem?
We can all open boutiques, Brian!
😁
£13.79 on the devil amazon, not that I advocate for shopping at the small business terminator! (This copy is minus the extensive appendix though)
Apologies, I should clarify, it's the 1966 first edition that is expensive and rarer. I tend to go for the oldest copies I can find as there's less likelihood of edits/omissions
Can see straight through that Garys economics! goes on and on about making millions of pounds!, how he done this and how he has done that, he talks absolute lamp oil!
His solution always seems to be 'more taxation' which means 'more theft'
He looks like he is acting
Nick didn't flick his locks - haha
Those days are long gone :D
It would have been nice to have gotten a proper introduction of Nick. And thanks for letting him speak for 5% of the video, Nigel. Sometimes it's appropriate to reign in that pesky ol' ego.
In Nigel's defence, I did reach out to him because I wanted him to answer some questions about what I've been learning from this book :)
@@HEYSREVIEWS I kept waiting to hear you discuss the book and delve into things relevant to the title of the video. I guess I was mistaken about who was actually interviewing who.
Yes, the idea was for Nick to ask me questions
@@vishyswa If you want the detail of the book the playlist is on my channel, we're reading it cover-to-cover, live streaming 3x per week :)
Keynes was right in some ways. All free markets lead to Oligarchy - which kill all free and fair markets. Indeed, both oligarchy and big government fascism/socialism are the cancers which destroy market mechanisms and free/fair/efficient/effective capitalism and societies. It’s like the children’s game of monopoly. When one party becomes too strong - all others lose slowly. An awful game. Without good regulation/governmebt and timing-based initiatives, free markets implode, are abused, run out of steam and lead to disaster. Moreover, long-term societal investment in infrastructure won’t happen - or will only happen under exploitative oligarchic conditions - without some intervention/ regulation. Intelligent balance. Where is it? The pure free-market and no government model doesn’t work well in large population / developed countries. It doesn’t work well in the real world business world - due increasingly due to Oligarchy (above the law monopoly/cartels/too much wealth in too few hands/then Lucifer cults).
"All free markets lead to Oligarchy" - a great example of Marxist programming you have absorbed and are now repeating. What a load of nonsense! It is governments that create monopolies. They do it by erecting barriers to entry that keep new competitors out of market - all done in the name of 'regulation'.
Which words aren't we allowed in the comments? Ho lo ca st? N ..z i? The na z is? Germans? The Germans? Germany? My comment disappeared. Nigel, you use these terms very often. It would be very useful if you once give us your definition about these terms. As i am German/American it would also help to clear the term A merican/the A mericans/ A merica
And last but not least... the big H!!! ...ler.
Please also explain the term J. !
I had a comment deleted under a Mark Devlin video yesterday. My starting assumption was that YT deleted it, not Mark.
You've both got all your ideologies mixed up.
For example, Hitler's National Socialism was nothing to do with socialism as we know it.
Gary's Economics is about taxing the rich. The ones who've exploited the peasants so much that they cannot make ends meet whilst stashing their own money on tax free islands.
The peasants in Manchester picadilly are a result of bad parenting. They are the detritus that falls off capitalism's table.
It is abhorrent to claim that the NHS workers are killing people.
Videos like this happen when people are half ass educated and get all their terms mixed up.
I'm not sure if it's deliberate spin but it's certainly all off kilter.
Fascio = bundle of sticks, individually weak, collectively strong. Therefore, workers unions could be described as fascist, they're joined together for strength, so each allegedly polar opposite group is actually just varying degrees of the same thing. Fascism, communism, same thing.
@@MHLivestreams would you prefer no unions and no strength? Are you a Thatcher baby?
@Dont_Be_Ridiculous I'll answer quickly in order to the questions you've asked. I could write a lot but I can't be arsed...
1. The CZ citizens were probabky no poorer than most of Britain is now... Using food banks thanks to the rise of the rich that this channel so treasures. And regardless of that, the best thing to come out of the Russian revolution was the removal of their aristocracy. It's a shame it didn't happen here. They're vile and epitomise inequality.
2. All courts are corrupt in every country. It's just that Britain pretends to be fair. Look what they've done to Alex Belfield. He had a big mouth and they've silenced him by making up a load of laws.
@Dont_Be_Ridiculous 3. People steal because they have nothing. That's modern Britain and it was created by people like Thatcher and beloved by people like Nigel.
@Dont_Be_Ridiculous 4. As above
You simply need to read a few history books from Losurdo, Pauwels, Parenti, Martens, Zeusse among others as your view on History is too lopsided - Communism and national-socialism is not the same - they are opposites and fought eachother at the cost of at least 60 million lives. Communism is the true opposing force to capitalism - the latter being an integral part of fascism btw.
They are both authoritarian ideologies. Economically, they both amount to technocracy - bureaucrats appointed by the state decide: what to produce, how to produce, and for whom.