What are the LEAST amount of battles to beat Pokemon Red/Blue with NO ITEMS?

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  • čas přidán 23. 12. 2019
  • Pokemon is all about battling, but what if we tried to do that as little as possible? How many battles can we eliminate and how do we get through the game?
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  • @Jrose11
    @Jrose11  Před 4 lety +1206

    Wanna see a sequel to this video? Let's get this one to 10,000 likes and I'll release a follow up with a much improved strat! Happy holidays everyone!

    • @sirquack1815
      @sirquack1815 Před 4 lety +29

      I'd love to see the sequel.

    • @lunardancer6047
      @lunardancer6047 Před 4 lety +65

      brb, making 7000 new accounts.

    • @nikolamarinovic5922
      @nikolamarinovic5922 Před 4 lety +26

      I know this is a boring strategy but you can leave a pokemon at the daycare and level it up without training, i don't know if there is a daycare in red and blue but for any other game you can level up to level 100 so you dont care about not getting experience in battles.

    • @onetwothreefour3957
      @onetwothreefour3957 Před 4 lety +8

      Nikola Q this is absolutely possible, there is indeed a daycare. i wonder why op didnt think of this

    • @HELLRAISER02
      @HELLRAISER02 Před 4 lety +18

      If you ever do this again, ban daycares, they're OP in this challenge

  • @carter3123
    @carter3123 Před 4 lety +2456

    not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but in additon to jrose considering the pokedoll at pokemon tower as a glitch, it is also an item to use in-battle, which goes against the rules.

    • @LimeymanZero
      @LimeymanZero Před 4 lety +226

      If you keep pressing right past the Squirtle when selecting a starter the game will let you past to select the Bulbasaur, that isn't developer intended so counts as a glitch

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike Před 4 lety +32

      @@LimeymanZero what

    • @LimeymanZero
      @LimeymanZero Před 4 lety +108

      @@Earthboundmike It's a joke, just like Bulbasaur

    • @TaivaanValo
      @TaivaanValo Před 4 lety +20

      @@Demonhornz I think the rule was no items in battle, so the repels are not a problem.

    • @yuggles2538
      @yuggles2538 Před 4 lety +185

      @@LimeymanZero bulbasaur is super effective against 5 kanto gyms and resists 6 of them. Bulbasaur also evolves early so it's actually one of the better starters

  • @Whurlpuul
    @Whurlpuul Před 4 lety +1190

    Social anxiety percent

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  Před 4 lety +223

      Honestly this was my idea of Low% but I feel like it's an insult to pretend this is a speedrun lol.

    • @Whurlpuul
      @Whurlpuul Před 4 lety +80

      @@Jrose11 I kinda find a Red with such bad social anxiety funny, like he's so nervous to make eye contact with people so he doesn't get into battles often is funny to me. (especially compared to how he's portrayed in later pokemon games)

    • @Polarthief
      @Polarthief Před 4 lety +42

      I actually hope that if 68 Battles % becomes a thing for speedrunners, it becomes SocialAnxiety%

    • @Polarthief
      @Polarthief Před 4 lety +5

      @@Jrose11 Could always become one now that we know it's possible (thanks to you)!

    • @aerospherology2001
      @aerospherology2001 Před 4 lety +4

      Interacting with as few NPCs as possible

  • @nathanielgrey4091
    @nathanielgrey4091 Před 4 lety +132

    "That makes Zubat really dangerous"
    There's a sentence that had never before been uttered.

  • @kingsgrave_
    @kingsgrave_ Před 4 lety +398

    Jrose11: " I didn't pick Omanyte for the meme"
    *names him LORD HELIX*

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  Před 4 lety +109

      I mean Kabuto has lower Special so...

    • @DennisRash
      @DennisRash Před 4 lety +13

      Hail Lord Helix!

    • @thesuntitan
      @thesuntitan Před 4 lety +34

      tbf he said "not JUST for the meme"

    • @caritahearts2405
      @caritahearts2405 Před 4 lety +8

      Don’t disrespect your gods

    • @airraid1266
      @airraid1266 Před 4 lety +12

      Filthy, filthy Omanyte, we all know Ratata is best fossil.

  • @djiboutinationalanthem5252
    @djiboutinationalanthem5252 Před 4 lety +880

    Running away is still affecting the pokemon.
    It's hurting its feelings

  • @StormEagleCH
    @StormEagleCH Před 4 lety +547

    Agatha: I’ll show you how a real trainer battles!
    Also Agatha: *spams hypnosis and confuse ray*

    • @chefdunsparce4254
      @chefdunsparce4254 Před 4 lety +11

      Nintendo and their love of rng

    • @snbeast9545
      @snbeast9545 Před 4 lety +35

      Agatha: I'll show you how a real *drunk* trainer battles!

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn Před 4 lety +3

      at 3 AM

    • @benjamincooper358
      @benjamincooper358 Před 4 lety +45

      Misty- I choose an all-out offensive with pokemon!
      *uses an X Defend*

    • @andrewrenshaw2741
      @andrewrenshaw2741 Před 2 lety +8

      Agatha fights with anime rules obviously. If a pokemon is asleep it is called unable to battle!

  • @alpolacci
    @alpolacci Před 4 lety +72

    *"Local hippie overthrows government with peace&love, a plant and two literal fossils"*

  • @avriil6446
    @avriil6446 Před 4 lety +620

    final battle counter: 68
    *we've won, but at what cost?*

  • @demil42
    @demil42 Před 3 lety +148

    Watching this almost a year later, it feels weird. Jrose says he can't set up against a frozen golbat while having withdraw to set up 6 badge boost glitch, and him surprised that Mimic is good…

    • @burntalive
      @burntalive Před 2 lety +32

      Current JRose would do so much better on this run! The run has become so optimized.

    • @raineob4996
      @raineob4996 Před 8 měsíci

      To be fair, the Badge Boost Glitch was obscure and extremely poorly understood until around 2020 (even when the Squirtle solo happened), so he likely didn’t know about it.
      Mimic is also not learned by level-up by anything other than Sudowoodo before Gen 3, and Gen 1 trainers don’t use TMs, so there’s no reason it would ever be encountered in a run, not to mention you have to buy an item you have no real reason to own and take it to another city to even get the TM.

  • @FrozunLightning
    @FrozunLightning Před 4 lety +668

    Great video. Just in case someone else hasn't already said it, I believe Agatha actually has "bad" AI. It's a fun twist since this can make her more of a pain to deal with due her moves being selected randomly. You can't take advantage of the dumb "good" AI like with the other trainers.

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 Před 4 lety +41

      Yeah... That's the biggest exemption from most trainers with "good" AI, like Lorelei, Lance, and Blue.
      Basically, Gen 1 is a complete mess of a game.

    • @awesomelink2347
      @awesomelink2347 Před 4 lety +22

      Correct. Out of all the Elite Four members, only Lorelei and Lance have the "good" AI.

    • @Frog-ux5qu
      @Frog-ux5qu Před 3 lety +15

      As if Bruno would benefit from "good Ai"

    • @2bluedragons492
      @2bluedragons492 Před 3 lety +4

      I think it's meant to show how she's a bit senile, but has the opposite effect.

    • @yugimumoto1
      @yugimumoto1 Před 2 lety +6

      @@2bluedragons492 yeah it makes her the extremely unpredictable creepy old lady instead.

  • @quocvietophu1627
    @quocvietophu1627 Před 4 lety +152

    Gen 1 Venusaur be like a salad

  • @tpsplatinum3562
    @tpsplatinum3562 Před 3 lety +14

    Bulbasaur;
    1) Super effective against Brock’s Pokémon.
    2) Super effective against Misty’s Pokémon
    3) Resists Lt. Surges electric moves.
    4) Neutral matchup against Erica.
    5) Cannot be poisoned by Koga
    6) Good matchup against Giovanni.
    7) Razor Leaf having STAB and always criting because high crit chance means it crits in gen 1, effectively make it base 165.
    Bulbasaur might not be a fire breathing lizard or an adorable turtle, but it is the easy mode when it comes to Red and Blue. I WILL DEFEND THIS TO THE DAY I DIE!!!

    • @PrisonMike-qi8ch
      @PrisonMike-qi8ch Před 2 měsíci +2

      That is 110% FACTUALLY TRUE! It is QUITE OFTEN considered AND implied among the long-time fans of Pokemon that if you pick Bulbasaur, it is picking EASY MODE. If you pick Squirtle, it is picking NORMAL MODE, and if you pick Charmander, it is picking HARD MODE. HECK, even in Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen it states accordingly if you click on Bulbasaur, it says quote on quote; "Ahh, so you picked BULBASAUR. It is very easy to raise.", implying that you're picking the EASY MODE. If you click on Squirtle, it says; "Ahh, so you picked SQUIRTLE. It is one worth raising", implying that you're picking the NORMAL MODE. And if you click on Charmander, it says; "Ahh, so you pick CHARMANDER. You should raise it patiently.", implying that you're picking the HARD MODE.
      I don't know if you already know this or not, but I'm just telling you this to bring up a bit of a fun fact about the original Red and Blue games AND about their Remakes FireRed and LeafGreen, JUST in case if you didn't know about that particularly. Have a GREAT day wherever you are!😉👍🏽

  • @Zetalight16
    @Zetalight16 Před 4 lety +581

    Since you picked trainers with the fewest pokemon when given a choice, this run should actually qualify for "fewest KOs". If you took the trainers with more pokemon, you might have gotten slightly more experience to work with. It also seems to me that fewest KOs implies least total EXP gained.

    • @justin02905
      @justin02905 Před 4 lety +66

      The implication is false, unfortunately. 5 magikarps @ 5 exp < 1 gyrados @ 30 exp. But using this run as a base it should be easy to find the glitchless minimum exp run

    • @steveh1474
      @steveh1474 Před 4 lety +23

      he never had to make that decision of 5 low xp Pokemon or 1 high xp Pokemon.
      generally, the trainers that had high xp Pokemon also had more Pokemon in general, and by taking the fewer number of KOs, he also took less xp.

    • @justin02905
      @justin02905 Před 4 lety +18

      @@steveh1474 yeah he did. After the nugget bridge and at the grass gym. Usually the game gives a trainer 1-2 strong Pokémon (beauties, cue balls, etc) or 3-5 weak pokemon (bug catchers, breeders, etc). This is for balance. Although I do think in the end fighting the trainers with fewer pokemon will give less exp overall.

    • @rarepepe1572
      @rarepepe1572 Před 4 lety +7

      @@justin02905 so what he implied was correct in the end, just not a foregone conclusion

    • @justin02905
      @justin02905 Před 4 lety +18

      @@rarepepe1572 yes. A real in-game example is in the Erika gym.
      Trainer 1: beauty
      Lvl 26 exegcute - 546 exp
      Trainer 2: cooltrainer
      Lvl 24 gloom - 678 exp
      Lvl 24 - weepinbell
      Lvl 24 - ivysaur
      I didn't calc the rest, but the gloom alone is worth more than the trainer with less pokemon in this case.

  • @junkawahara968
    @junkawahara968 Před 4 lety +280

    What a run. I actually forgot Mimic was a move, and the Bide strategy was brilliant. I would love to see the improved run, and a merry Christmas to you.

  • @cptKamina
    @cptKamina Před 4 lety +73

    "So we are really nearing the homestretch here" He says 39 minutes into am 80 minute video :D

  • @PhoeniksStorm
    @PhoeniksStorm Před 4 lety +136

    Avoiding every battle i could was literally how i played pokemon as a kid. Which made it so i could never beat the elite 4.

    • @KreepyKat911
      @KreepyKat911 Před 4 lety +13

      I was the same way! I was like, afraid of encountering trainers lmao

    • @_UnknownStory
      @_UnknownStory Před 4 lety +20

      Mine was "grind the hell outta Charizard because it's the coolest and forget the other Pokemon."
      It took me a few hours but Charizard and Friends (re: Meat Shields) eventually got through the whole thing.

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur Před 4 lety +1

      @@_UnknownStory I did the same with my sceptile back then.

    • @seiler3485
      @seiler3485 Před 4 lety +13

      Let's be real, Kanto Elite Four kicked all our asses at some point

    • @eeveestars3668
      @eeveestars3668 Před 4 lety +1

      me too but yet i like wild pokemon
      pokemon x but you cant slov the furfuw puzzle
      me: yay i did the puzzle time to go to the 2 gym
      The gym leder: i will beat you with my rock pokemon
      me: sends out leval 55 delfox
      The gym leder: sends out his leval 23 pokemon
      gym leder: 😱
      literly 2 minits later
      gym leter: you win
      me: i thout you were ment to be hard
      me: well time to find a eevee
      I leve the gym
      gym leder: that was strat up not far
      AND THATS HOW BAD MY SPELLING IS

  • @nsm6467
    @nsm6467 Před 4 lety +751

    give this man a noble peace price for FINALLY finding a use for bide

    • @thebestworst8002
      @thebestworst8002 Před 4 lety +56

      nsm 64 this is like Pikasprey finding a use for flash

    • @LEO_M1
      @LEO_M1 Před 4 lety +29

      nsm 64
      Nobel*

    • @DingoTheDemon
      @DingoTheDemon Před 4 lety +13

      I actually like bide in-game sometimes; I usually don't use things that can learn bide, but if I'm doing a nuzlocke, sometimes it really comes in handy!

    • @Rediblackdragon
      @Rediblackdragon Před 4 lety +11

      @@DingoTheDemon: nuzlocke time, let's use the attack that just has me getting hurt on purpose

    • @DingoTheDemon
      @DingoTheDemon Před 4 lety +5

      @@Rediblackdragon if I have a mostly defensive Pokemon at low levels then yes :D

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread Před 4 lety +1006

    A solid Christmas Present!

    • @Sminlek
      @Sminlek Před 4 lety +11

      Hi Bread

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  Před 4 lety +101

      Thanks man, love the videos you've been putting out, really amazing runs lately!!

    • @MahDryBread
      @MahDryBread Před 4 lety +74

      @@Jrose11 Thanks, I appreciate that! I'm always open to hang out and talk CZcams if you ever want to! I've been doing a video a day for 8 years now so I've got no shortage of stuff to talk about

    • @kvetchenfinks7044
      @kvetchenfinks7044 Před 4 lety +8

      Tasty bread for our jrose sandwich

    • @HoratioMcAlge
      @HoratioMcAlge Před 4 lety +6

      Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! I wish your vids were better. :(

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 Před 4 lety +235

    "You can't do less than one with a single Not Very Effective hit"
    not true! It's just that if you somehow get in a position where that happens the game gets confused and says that you missed.
    At this point i'm surprised the Gen 1 cartidges don't somehow catch on fire with how barely held together they are

    • @clqliveson
      @clqliveson Před 4 lety +3

      Thats a 1/256 miss.... not a "0"

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 Před 4 lety +37

      @@clqliveson i can't remember who it was, but someone did a challenge run where they were so underleveled for Brock that their Not Very Effective move "missed" like 10 times in a row. Unless there's just some nutty RNG happening there's no way it was legitimately missing.
      It might've been Gamechamp but not sure.

    • @eepy7764
      @eepy7764 Před 4 lety +39

      @@edfreak9001 It happened in one of Mah-Dry-Bread's challenges, apparently what was happening was that he was dealing damage so far below 1 that the game rounds it down to 0 because it's the closest integer when calculating how much HP to deduct. Because the game thinks missing an attack is the only way to deal 0 damage, it displays the "Attack Missed" text.

    • @caritahearts2405
      @caritahearts2405 Před 4 lety +41

      Honestly I want a gen 8 game with gen 1’s shitty coding, that sounds so fun. Smogon get on that.

    • @justanothercommenterwithan9089
      @justanothercommenterwithan9089 Před 4 lety +15

      @@caritahearts2405 dear god what kind of hell will that create

  • @gamerdude491
    @gamerdude491 Před 4 lety +417

    Early game strategy that was completely overlooked:
    Buy the Magikarp. Using it is optional, but now you have a 2nd Pokémon you didn't need to battle for. Upon beating Misty, pop either of them into the Daycare, then abuse the bike and any other means of saving real-life time to accelerate their EXP gains without ever battling anyone. Use the cash from selling items you can't use in battle to pay the daycare to get your now over-levelled Pokémon back out. This strategy will get you a beefier Ivysaur to ease the difficult SS Anne rival battle and it will get you a Gyarados using the Magikarp. Then you steamroll the rest of the game.

    • @oilvre_
      @oilvre_ Před 4 lety +13

      gamerdude491 yeah, there’s no daycare in gen one

    • @picagamer_6098
      @picagamer_6098 Před 4 lety +108

      @@oilvre_ there is
      Gamechamp3000 used it in his no damage gen 1 playthrough

    • @Akrna47
      @Akrna47 Před 4 lety +142

      @@oilvre_ that's where you are wrong, buddy. It's right after misty

    • @franklinbolton8730
      @franklinbolton8730 Před 4 lety +11

      The daycare was my first thought as well.

    • @premejon8300
      @premejon8300 Před 4 lety +49

      TheTweeJaguar lmao found the dude born in 2012 😂

  • @CyberBlastoise
    @CyberBlastoise Před 2 lety +24

    It's so weird hearing Jrose mentioning using Mimic as tho that's a novel concept considering how much he would use it in later runs.

  • @Merione
    @Merione Před 4 lety +135

    When it comes to starters, do not underestimate the power of the Grass side!

    • @shironasama0445
      @shironasama0445 Před 4 lety +6

      I always choose grass anyway

    • @ABurntMuffin
      @ABurntMuffin Před 4 lety +3

      @@shironasama0445 :fire:

    • @RooftopRose079
      @RooftopRose079 Před 4 lety +10

      I almost always pick the grass type, they're so underrated, everyone's always going for the fire type. I mean, the first two gyms are rock and water, both weak to grass why aren't people choosing Bulbasaur?

    • @devincetee5335
      @devincetee5335 Před 4 lety +2

      @@RooftopRose079 i always choose water

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 Před 4 lety +5

      @@RooftopRose079 there is a simple reason to choose charmender in gen-1
      that being type coverage.
      you see while it is true that squirtlle and bulbasaur are better against earlier gyms, brocks rock types have shitty special stats and don't actually know any rock our ground moves so ember can do the job and then you can catch grass types before misty and you can get a water type before mount moon by buying the magicarp, you can find good replacements for both bulbasaur and squirtle very early on.
      good fire types however don't become available until cinnabar island.

  • @LadyBrightcynder
    @LadyBrightcynder Před 4 lety +47

    "... and you can see how deadly Night Shade is."
    I see what you did there

  • @BigAndy_31
    @BigAndy_31 Před 4 lety +55

    You forgot to mention using the poke doll in the tower is considered an item in battle which is against the rules anyway. So the other reasons you brought up don't even matter. You went and ruffled some feathers for nothing lol. Great video.

  • @JC-hi8fk
    @JC-hi8fk Před 4 lety +23

    “Mr. Mime is a joke”
    This opinion would be short lived

    • @Colonel_RamRod
      @Colonel_RamRod Před 3 měsíci

      If used correctly Mr Mime can be an absolute nightmare to deal with lol

  • @Felixkeeg
    @Felixkeeg Před 4 lety +34

    "Gen I giveth and Gen I taketh away" lmao

  • @zachrichardson3947
    @zachrichardson3947 Před 4 lety +7

    Little did he know, by using mimic on agility in the lance battle, he activate the badge boost glitch.

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  Před 4 lety +7

      Ah, the good old days of playing the game the way it was meant to. Good times...

  • @niconexus5914
    @niconexus5914 Před 4 lety +18

    CZcamsrs who make a Pokemon challenge video: 15 mins
    Jrose: Unedited 1 hour explanations
    Perfect present man.

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  Před 4 lety +17

      Dude, you have no idea how much I edit lol, I get what you're saying but it takes forever to make these. I just really like being thorough

    • @javrami4883
      @javrami4883 Před 4 lety +2

      Jrose11 we are all thankful

    • @niconexus5914
      @niconexus5914 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Jrose11 Wow lol. We still love your content man!

  • @a_cup_of_joe540
    @a_cup_of_joe540 Před 4 lety +123

    Yes, I would like to suffer as much as humanly possible please? Oh, this challenge? This will do quite nicely

    • @_UnknownStory
      @_UnknownStory Před 4 lety +2

      Nobody tell this guy about Nuzlocke. I don't wanna break his heart

    • @runevarkevisser7289
      @runevarkevisser7289 Před 4 lety +8

      There's a lad who beat pokémon Red without taking a single hit. Perhaps that will bring you the desired amount of suffering.

    • @keane0warren188
      @keane0warren188 Před 4 lety

      its funny because its true

    • @wilFluffball
      @wilFluffball Před 4 lety +1

      ok wanna suffer more? do the run with all your pokemon paralyzed.

  • @xdeuiiigaming1223
    @xdeuiiigaming1223 Před 4 lety +49

    Jrose11: "...and i'm not gonna make a 1hr long video"
    Also Jrose11:

  • @Brain-washed2
    @Brain-washed2 Před 4 lety +48

    I'm just glad somebody else knows the truth of the marowak ghost glitch.
    awesome work man, i didn't think anything would top no damage... But this actually seems way harder

  • @michaelcritter7933
    @michaelcritter7933 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I love going back through these. Just got to the final four Agetha and 3 years ago when "mimic" was a brand new Strat. Since then, mimic seems to be a fairly standard toolbox option for otherwise limited runs. Love it

  • @FantasyJota
    @FantasyJota Před 4 lety +177

    This is me playing as a 10 year old

    • @KreepyKat911
      @KreepyKat911 Před 4 lety +14

      [A spinner catches me and I start crying]

    • @wibblemu9
      @wibblemu9 Před 4 lety +20

      I'm the complete opposite, I was the kid who went out of his way to find every trainer on every route lol

    • @mclarge90
      @mclarge90 Před 4 lety +5

      @@wibblemu9 same, i always thought that was the point in playing it haha

    • @wibblemu9
      @wibblemu9 Před 4 lety +10

      @@mclarge90 haha ikr I have to enter every building and talk to ever NPC, make sure I get everything

  • @fifkun_
    @fifkun_ Před 2 lety +12

    It’s so weird to see mimicking Agility without talking about the badge boost glitch. I love your videos, man!

  • @vbph2011
    @vbph2011 Před 2 lety +1

    Celebrating you GETTING AN EDITOR that's super awesome by watching and commenting and each of your minimum battles/tier list series. Nothing big, just a few sentences to make sure it helps the algorithm. And the videos are grea.

  • @rushilsaini6356
    @rushilsaini6356 Před 4 lety +145

    I took the helix fossil *not for the meme*
    Yeah sure

    • @bossboy191919
      @bossboy191919 Před 4 lety +7

      Did he refer to MahDryBread?

    • @rushilsaini6356
      @rushilsaini6356 Před 4 lety +4

      @@bossboy191919 he did

    • @LEO_M1
      @LEO_M1 Před 4 lety +18

      I'm pretty sure that by "meme" he was referring to Lord Helix, not MDB.

    • @TheUltimateRare
      @TheUltimateRare Před 4 lety +3

      only reason he said it's not for the meme is because it was for the meme, you wouldn't bring up a meme if you were avoiding it.

  • @coleknight5335
    @coleknight5335 Před 4 lety +51

    How can someone not love these videos they are so interesting and Jrose has so much integrity to even bypass making things easier. Love these videos one of my favorite channels

    • @PANZERFAUST90
      @PANZERFAUST90 Před 4 lety +3

      What the run-on sentence was that???

    • @Begeru
      @Begeru Před rokem

      Actually he made it easier by not using the pokedoll slip

  • @kingdavey90
    @kingdavey90 Před 3 lety +40

    Wow, I had no idea that you would skip learning new moves if you get multiple levels from one big exp chunk

  • @idrissb9742
    @idrissb9742 Před 2 lety +6

    Looking back - knowing about the badge boost glitch - that freeze on the Golbat in the Agatha battle wouldve been perfect for setting up withdraw, boosting your speed to hopefully outspeed the final gengar haha

  • @loganisanerd5566
    @loganisanerd5566 Před 4 lety +21

    My boy Bulbasaur pulling some weight, lol

  • @timber6856
    @timber6856 Před 4 lety +181

    Leaving a comment for CZcams algorithm

  • @bdhuffman42
    @bdhuffman42 Před 4 lety +28

    Please do this challenge for every generation! It was such a fun run to watch!

  • @poisonbarb75
    @poisonbarb75 Před 4 lety +1

    I really liked this video. I really like Pokemon challenges, but after the fourth "can I beat this game with only said Pokemon?" video, which are just enormous grindfests, this video was such a relief and a pleasure to watch.
    Beautiful showcasing your deep knowledge of the game, the innovative strategies and the fact you couldn't grind, you had to work with what you had. Congratulations on a work well done!

  • @jaeusa160
    @jaeusa160 Před 4 lety +39

    @31:15 I'm with you on that, I consider skipping what is intended to be a mandatory battle which is intended to send you to another location for what is intended to be a mandatory item after clearing other mandatory battles... yeah I consider that a glitch. It's a very easy to activate glitch, but so are a lot of glitches in the game, just by doing other mundane or normal actions. I would argue the PokeDoll is NOT fulfilling its intended function of skipping 1 battle, because it's being used to skip a game section full of battles it doesn't work on by escaping "one" battle. To me, it's no different than saving past the kid by Brock's gym.
    You're saving the game, which is an intended function. In your current location, which is where saves are intended to keep you. And you're loading the game which loads you into that location, which is what loading saves is intended to do. It just happens to break the entire game when you do so.

    • @Xeronoia
      @Xeronoia Před 4 lety +2

      Agreed, and well said. Speedrunners are completely insane though, and justify all kinds of stupidity in "Glitchless" categories.

    • @joshstephens413
      @joshstephens413 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Xeronoia Says the insane people creating all kinds of justifications for why they think speedrunners justify glitches.

    • @Xeronoia
      @Xeronoia Před 3 lety

      @@joshstephens413 There's no justifications or assumptions at work here, bucko, these are the actual arguments used by actual speedrunners. "Oh the item itself is working as intended so skipping a roadblock and entire sections of the game with it it isnt a glitch, even though every other way of attempting to skip that roadbloack doesn't work!" is something literally only a brainlet or a speedrunner using bias to justify a shortcut would believe.

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Xeronoia Just because a game design lets you use a programming oversight to skip parts of a game doesn't mean it is necessarily a glitch. I'm not arguing whether the poke doll skip is a glitch or not, but it skipping parts of the game doesn't make it one. Go loo up the definition of a glitch.

    • @Xeronoia
      @Xeronoia Před 3 lety

      @@wombat4191 So I take it you're a brainlet or a speedrunner then.

  • @DaftRay
    @DaftRay Před 4 lety +70

    Sooo, guess who found out that you can skip the fights in Blaine's Gym by using those quiz machines today. Me... I always just assumed they were for aesthetic lol

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 Před 4 lety +9

      I just always get them wrong on purpose.

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur Před 4 lety +9

      @@shytendeakatamanoir9740 me too.
      I kinda feel bad skipping those battles

    • @m.m.2341
      @m.m.2341 Před 4 lety +2

      When I played Let's Go I was like "did they add a quiz show here"? Because I could not remember the quiz AT ALL from my childhood days, so I GUESS I always just fought.

    • @Khetamine
      @Khetamine Před 4 lety +4

      You sack of potatoes 😂

    • @wizardsummoner9124
      @wizardsummoner9124 Před 3 lety +1

      @@shytendeakatamanoir9740 You can always talk to the guy anyway to battle him.

  • @JohnDoe-uq2qd
    @JohnDoe-uq2qd Před 4 lety +6

    Hey man, just wanted to say that I love your videos! I love watching these really unique runs, and it's clear you have a lot of passion for the game that meant so much to both of us growing up. Keep up the good work

  • @MFMegaZeroX7
    @MFMegaZeroX7 Před 4 lety +12

    I would love to see the consistent strats. Also, this may be my favorite challenge run. It was really fun and clever (using Mimic, WOW!)
    I would certainly also love to see more challenge runs in the future use the "least amount of battles/no optional battles" thing. I still can't believe Red/Blue was beaten with NO optional battles.

  • @Arelachen
    @Arelachen Před 4 lety +4

    I subbed as soon as you said that Vaporeon is one of your favorites. I love Vaporeon so much, I had him on my birthay cake :D

  • @phlippinout
    @phlippinout Před 4 lety +32

    This comment serves only to help with your stats. Merry Christmas.

  • @michaelthompson8334
    @michaelthompson8334 Před rokem +2

    Going back and watching this after the solo runs and all the things you've learned I wanna see how much better this could be now that you know a ton more about these games

  • @Peelster1
    @Peelster1 Před 4 lety +2

    I agree with almost everything you said about the Poke Doll skip. With the exception of it being a glitch. It is not as the developers intended, but the game mechanic of the Poke Doll does work as intended, with an oversight. As you said, the oversight was that the devs did not mean for the Poke Doll to be able to skip over the Ghost. As such, by definition, with the game mechanic working as intended but with an oversight, it is an exploit. That being said, you could have mentioned wanting to do this run as no glitches and no exploits. In addition, you would have had to do Rocket Hideout anyway, as the Poke Doll's use would have broken your "no items in battle" rule.
    When you started in on the Poke Doll, I was hoping that you would do Rocket Hideout. I was not disappointed. I have a lot of respect for you for going into that explanation of what you think about the Poke Doll, especially for playing the game as intended, no exceptions, on such a challenging run and for holding yourself to such a high standard.
    I believe there is a difference between a glitchless run and a run where the game is played entirely as intended. A completely as intended run would be no glitches, no exploits, and patched as much as possible to remove bugs. However, when patches remove bugs, it changes the original game, which is why some re-releases of games, including gen 1 of Pokemon, have all the glitches, exploits and bugs included. As these issues that a game has also gives it a lot of it's charm.

  • @DJTileTurnip
    @DJTileTurnip Před 4 lety +41

    Merry Christmas Jrose, Merry Christmas
    Have a good one

  • @aminotarobot7486
    @aminotarobot7486 Před 4 lety +29

    just blew my mind with the bide strat, I swear of all these crazy pokemon runs you have the best
    THE MIMIC STRAT!!! THIS ABSOLUTE MAD LAD

  • @dejct
    @dejct Před rokem

    Watched it all the way through, enjoyed it thoroughly. You put so much effort into these and it shows. A pleasure to watch as always, jrose

  • @Starsoulklr
    @Starsoulklr Před 4 lety +26

    Actually I thought of why you can't use the Poke Doll to escape Mother Marowak. You forbid the use of items in battle for your run so if you used the Poke Doll you break your own challenge rule.

    • @fooff1
      @fooff1 Před 4 lety +1

      He has been using in battle items from the start. WTF are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?

    • @geep361
      @geep361 Před dnem

      @@fooff1 battle items are items used while in a battle, such as using a potion mid battle, which he doesn't do in either run you brain-damaged chimp.

  • @ifesbobthekillerpolarbear2013

    I'd like to see the battle number for an average casual playthrough compared to grind-intense runs and this because I think that would be really interesting

  • @justnobody5527
    @justnobody5527 Před 4 lety +87

    One thing that might have made this a bit less of a challenge. A little ol house called the "Day care house" yes you couldnt use it untill you got the fossil since you cant put in HM pokemon. Or the Eevee before evolving. Also wheres the fun walking back and forth for litteral days so good vid did like or something

    • @JimothiesMemeShack
      @JimothiesMemeShack Před 4 lety +1

      There’s no day care in gen1

    • @YushiruOokashiSLW
      @YushiruOokashiSLW Před 4 lety +41

      @@JimothiesMemeShack there is, it's near Cerulean

    • @Fig_Bender
      @Fig_Bender Před 4 lety +13

      @@JimothiesMemeShack its south of cerulean, you cant breed pokemom but you can level them

    • @TheUltimateRare
      @TheUltimateRare Před 4 lety +4

      or if the rules allow it, you can also use any% cheats to skip ALL trainers ;P but that would ruin the fun, so Itemless/trade less/ cheatless is the most fun.

    • @mrsplays9817
      @mrsplays9817 Před 4 lety +2

      I think that the HM thing was from later games, I don't see why you couldn't put in the eevee, and you can get a magikarp before Mount Moon without a battle.

  • @YukeWeiss
    @YukeWeiss Před 4 lety +6

    Love how you find creative strategies with terrible moves. Really solid content. I feel like maybe the running commentary of every major battle could be a bit streamlined in your videos, but I really enjoy your challenge runs :3

  • @imfamoushero
    @imfamoushero Před 4 lety

    Idk how you kept me entertained for nearly 1 hour and 20 mins but your content always, always lives up to jrose expectations

  • @NickAChino
    @NickAChino Před 4 lety +3

    Definitely want to see a video with an updated strat! Love your content and enjoy seeing you critically think through these runs. Keep it up!

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  Před 4 lety +2

      Editting it right now, should be out in a couple days.

  • @bubblewrap8823
    @bubblewrap8823 Před 4 lety +10

    Ah, yes, the “My Childhood” run.

    • @lowkey1202
      @lowkey1202 Před 4 lety

      Lol until we found the missing number glitch

  • @pokestep
    @pokestep Před 4 lety

    Jrose, thank you for putting so much time into your videos, and also for answering questions I never would have even asked

  • @josephhanicak7922
    @josephhanicak7922 Před 4 lety +2

    Please, keep making these. These long challenges are awesome and I love watching them .

  • @miketacos9034
    @miketacos9034 Před 4 lety +4

    Bide and Mimic finally have their moment in the sun!

  • @GlichCentral
    @GlichCentral Před 4 lety +9

    I’d be happy to see the improved strats.

  • @ryanc5572
    @ryanc5572 Před 4 lety +2

    It's so cool that he did this challenge. I recommended it a while ago. Thank you mate. Really enjoyed it. The bide trick was fantastic.

  • @calebsimons4288
    @calebsimons4288 Před 4 lety

    This man just keeps invigorating my interest in Pokémon and makes me appreciate the games more than I did as a kid.

  • @TheAres1999
    @TheAres1999 Před 2 lety +3

    1:16:41 switching to a
    Pokémon to tank a hit can be a really useful technique. If you know you need to switch, having an intermediate Pokémon go out first will keep the next one safe. It can also be used to protect a main Pokémon from moves like Solar Beam.

  • @javrami4883
    @javrami4883 Před 4 lety +10

    God I love this channel so much

  • @Regifeathers
    @Regifeathers Před 4 lety

    Spectacular, thorough and enjoyable video as usual. I’d love to see more!!

  • @undeddjester
    @undeddjester Před 2 lety +1

    This is the first video of yours I saw @Jrose11...
    Its hilarious now looking back after watching so many of your videos and seeing your discovery of mimic... but more than that getting to 1:08:00 with the frozen Golbat and upon hearing "Can I set up?", and immediately thinking "withdraw for the badge boost glitch", then hearing "No, not really...".
    Legit got more impressed with this run, knowing you did it without the power you would become famous for 🤣🤣🤣

  • @xbenj403
    @xbenj403 Před 4 lety +9

    68 battles
    "We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close."
    But anyway, great video, alone because of the massive time effort on your side. Really would like to see the updated strats. But still, great great video, can't stress this enough. And, enjoy the rest of your day!

  • @wombat4191
    @wombat4191 Před 4 lety +3

    If you say that Bulbasaur is the worst starter to go with in gen 1, I don't think I can take you seriously. Yes, the move pool is more shallow than the others, but what it does have is better. See, Razor leaf is a high crit chance move, which means it basically always crits, giving it an effective base power of 110, which is considerably more than surf or flamethrower at 95. Also, Leech seed is a great early game move even with only 1/16 damage as the early battles tend to draw out quite long, and it can be further exploited with toxic. And it doesn't suffer from type effectiveness problems. Admittedly you did realized these errors in your judgement later, but hadn't you ever known those earlier?
    Bulbasaur line also has the best Special stat, which acts as two stats in gen 1 so it basically has better stats than the other starter lines. And it's faster than Squirtle so that argument about being slow is a bad one.
    And lastly, Bulbasaur line is good at the 4 first gyms (although that Starmie does pose a bit of a problem) and only really has major problems with Cinnabar and Saffron if you teach it Body slam for Fuchsia.
    Basically, Bulbasaur is kind of the hidden easy mode in Gen 1 games, and in turn Charmander is the hard one, as it has the worst early matchups. Of course Bulbasaur suffers early on from Leech life, which is 4x effective, and the occasional Peck, but otherwise it has the easiest early game.

  • @m.m.2341
    @m.m.2341 Před 4 lety

    What an incredibly cool run. I was just glued to my screen for the full 80 minutes :D
    And great choice of music, too, especially Marnie 2 for the final battle!

  • @mattr2431
    @mattr2431 Před 4 lety

    Wooooo! Merry Christmas everyone! I’m super excited to have a Jrose video for Christmas! I really hope that you keep making content. I’m sorry that the trashy algorithm screws over your videos but you seriously make the best Pokémon content on CZcams. I hope you have a fantastic holiday!

  • @surtrgaming1730
    @surtrgaming1730 Před 4 lety +14

    Here: Level 25 Ivysaur vs Level 16-19 Pokémon: "I'm not overleveled"
    On the 2nd run: Level 20 Ivysaur vs Level 15-17 Pokémon: "I'm overleveled"

  • @Desty38
    @Desty38 Před 4 lety +10

    57:47 You can be unfrozen if a fire move hits you or if you use items in battle, hence why it doesn't kill you.

  • @Awtysm000
    @Awtysm000 Před 4 lety

    Have a great holiday season! I am so happy every time I see you in my sub feed. Keep up the great work!

  • @shupasopni
    @shupasopni Před 4 lety

    This was awesome! One of if not the most interesting of challenge runs I've seen. Would most def love to see a redo video.

  • @Bronzor_
    @Bronzor_ Před 4 lety +4

    1:07:05 Gotta admit, that is rare, but while playing my Bronzor only run I got 17 Hypnosis misses in a row (with no changes to accuracy or evasiveness)... Since that moment I'm just used to see Hypnosis miss

  • @auggy69
    @auggy69 Před 4 lety +3

    Another long jrose video... an amazing christmas gift

  • @bandityogo
    @bandityogo Před 4 lety

    Great video Jrose! Always a gift seeing you upload!! Keep up the great work

  • @zachrd67
    @zachrd67 Před 4 lety

    I love these long videos. I know so much went into it so thanks for a great video

  • @IDoTheMost
    @IDoTheMost Před 4 lety +27

    My guess would be about 80, considering the gym leaders and trainers, team rocket, rival battles, necessary npcs, and elite 4. On second thought its probably closer to like 95ish lol

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus Před 4 lety +3

      First guess wasn't too far off.

    • @IDoTheMost
      @IDoTheMost Před 4 lety +3

      I didn't realize the last few gyms didn't require you to fight many of the trainers. Between that, and the rocket hideout lol it could've made 80

  • @arecus54
    @arecus54 Před 4 lety +11

    I'm surprised he didn't go with Zapdos, was expecting that when he mentioned the surfing thing
    Nevermind, just realised it's another battle and using item in battle

  • @alexandersanchez9138
    @alexandersanchez9138 Před 4 lety

    All your runs are super interesting and creative. I watch all your videos; keep up the great work!

  • @brandongordon4019
    @brandongordon4019 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow, great job on this video. Must have been really challenging. I'd be interested in seeing a really refined strategy. And I thought you're take on the pokedoll was interesting. I didn't know how I felt about it until you explained your thoughts, and I gotta say that won me over.

  • @surtrgaming1730
    @surtrgaming1730 Před 4 lety +4

    "How bad can it go?". That's Always an interesting question :P

  • @nooberus9241
    @nooberus9241 Před 4 lety +6

    Dude Leech Seed is OP and my favorite attack in the game!

  • @TheJadeknight7
    @TheJadeknight7 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow, that battle against Agatha was really intense. It's really cool to see obscure moves being used to save the day. This was a great challenge.

  • @jorisvandijk5489
    @jorisvandijk5489 Před 4 lety

    Great video, as always! A nice treat for the holiday's

  • @SupernerdScrawl
    @SupernerdScrawl Před 4 lety +8

    Finally somebody calls out the glitch exploit thing. I've always had a problem with that.

  • @ShinyTillDawn
    @ShinyTillDawn Před 4 lety +3

    Which fossil did you pick? Comments are good for the CZcams algorithm!

  • @teeopiskelija6544
    @teeopiskelija6544 Před 3 lety

    Dunno how I skipped this one, but I'm glad, since now I have a long episode to watch! :) Thanks for the content btw!

  • @Ashfold_Eberesche
    @Ashfold_Eberesche Před 2 lety +1

    omg, when you said "This strategy, I'm surprised it worked" I KNEW it was gonna be Bide! I actually thought of it just while you were talking about Kadabra needing to use Teleport. This is one of the few times when I've come up with the same solution that you used :D To be fair, in Gen 1 there's only so many options so it's much easier, plus Gen 1 is the generation I know by far the most about.

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak Před 4 lety +15

    Is the toxic leech seed interaction not allowed?

    • @luizbezerra4373
      @luizbezerra4373 Před 4 lety +1

      I was exactly thinking about that. That could have made things easier on some battles.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 4 lety

      It seems too similar to the Poké Doll thing: An exploit.

    • @eyeconqueror1185
      @eyeconqueror1185 Před 4 lety +19

      He knows nothing about how good bulbasaur is. Also a glitchless run of RBY is impossible because the game is coded so wrong. What’s an exploit and what isn’t is completely subjective.

  • @theccarbiter
    @theccarbiter Před 4 lety +19

    Love the vid man but you can’t say you’re doing a glitchless run with this game when almost every mechanic is a glitch amiright

  • @no1wasgeorgiebest
    @no1wasgeorgiebest Před 4 lety

    Loved this and all of your videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
    @ScottsThoughtsPokemon Před 3 lety +2

    Great video! Doing my research for an upcoming challenge I'm doing! You're stuff is great and inspiring. Keep it up!

    • @riverking8258
      @riverking8258 Před 2 lety

      Love your stuff keep it up

    • @fildgebucket
      @fildgebucket Před rokem

      If jrose hasn't/isn't going to, you should 1000% try this in yellow Scott!
      Having watched your recent content, this would be fun to see! You'd have to tweek the starter, maybe an Eevee since it's technically a starter that's given by Oak (just not to the player) in yellow!
      Or any (reasonable) pokemon that would make it possible to actually clear Brock and move on to the rest of the game.
      The rest of the game is a challenge enough on it's own and would be wildly different than red/blue even when only considering the main story battles!