RARE and UNIQUE Beam Mounts
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
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Over the years, gymnastics routines have become very formulaic and even predictable.
Most gymnasts perform the same range of skills and the Code of Points doesn't exactly promote diversity and originality.
Whether it doesn't fit properly in the composition, the actual reward is pretty much non-existent or the likelihood of large deductions is high,
the reasons for the lack of variety are diverse.
In this video, we'll take a look at 5 rare and unique balance beam mounts.
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The Li looks so painful, the way she arches her back as it hits the beam... ouch. Maybe it's just me
She wasn't hitting her back, though. Most, if not all, of the impact was on her butt - I think the back arch is just for form.
I thought it looked painful too.
I totally agree. If that move is executed wrong, it looks like you could break your back
I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how many bruises she got from working on that mount.
Couldn't agree more
The absolute best thing that could be done for gymnastics right now would be bringing a handstand/strength/balance requirement back to balance beam. It just baffles me that they haven't done it, it's such a classic part of gymnastics, and if they're trying to bring back artistry, it's an essential part of what makes beam beautiful and artistic!
Sadly, we have lost so many awesome , beautiful, and difficult tricks over the years due to the focus on tumbling. We have also lost a lot of the dancing on the floor routines for the same reason.
Yeah that makes no sense
@@sunshinemagicalrainbowunic4004 Yeah your comment, like your handle, is drooling idiocy. Byebye. Schooled and blocked with delight.
I was looking for the mount that was on the original photo. My late husband, Michael Robbins was featured on the first magazine cover of International Gymnast(Glen Sundby) doing it and I had never seen it done since. That was around 1960. Many difficult and beautiful routines were lost when gymnastics went onto only using the Olympic 6 event system. They used to do their floor routines on the bare floor and when mats were introduced it cut out all of the floor balancing routines. He was LA City champion in 1955, competed in the last meet with the flying rings, scored in the NCAA finals for UC-Berkeley and a Muscle Beach guy.
@@nanrobbins2916 sorry to hear about your loss, but that is so awesome he was pioneer in this sport. I don't personally remember having just bare floor but I do remember when the springs that are in the floor weren't near as big as they are now. It's no wonder why and how they are able to do the insane tumbling they do now a days. Don't get me wrong they are still very difficult but without the springs under the foam padding and mats the gymnast would not get the height they do in order to pull off many of the tumbling passes they do now.
I mean it is understandable having to break your gymnastic routine do a dance move
I loved everything Kristie Phillips did. I had incredible back (and everywhere else!) flexibility, but struggled with strength and endurance (three decades later finding out I have Ehlers Danlos Type III). So she was my HERO - I still have my copy of USA Gymnastics with her on the cover! I even had her haircut 😂!
I too had the same issues as a gymnast when I was younger and was diagnosed with the same problem as you when I was in my late 20s
The Rankin and Philips look insane! Seriously impressive.
Have you seen Tatiana Groshkova? Go look her up right now if you have not seen her moves. Even better than the Phillips!
@@rosee7011 Groshkova was a goddess. SO screwed over by the Sovs.
I love flare and handstand mounts. It would be amazing if the COP would reward different kinds of gymnastics and we got to see more variety.
I don’t know why but I love the look of the Li Mount. It’s just so pretty to watch! The Rankin is also amamzingly unique. That mount should be rated higher
Side note: The "Li mount" is named after Li Yifang (CHN) in the Code of Points, but apparently she has never performed it (?). The examples shown are performed by Li Li, so the Code may have got it wrong, which certainly wouldn't be the first time.
That surprised me. Until this video I always assumed it was named after Li Li.
Li Yifang literally never performed it. Must have been another version of Stroescu/Cojocar fiasco
Yes, I remember Li Li doing that mount at the Goodwill Games.
Li Yifang did perform the skill (handstand to Healy). But she did it in the middle of her routine, not as her mount. Check out footage of her on beam from early 90s Worlds. I'm surprised the move was named after her, though. I always associate it with Li Li--even though Olga Strazheva actually did it in international competition before both of them. Li Li at least has that lovely back spin named after her.
beam used to be so much more creative and artistic.
The Baitova just goes to prove that some women gymnasts could do the Pamnel Horse with great flare.
I always was amazed at Kristie Phillips first placement of her hands when mounting. She always had an open flex in her hand while just using her grip strength to power herself to an incredible Handstand. I believe if she hadn't chosen gymnastics, she could have had a show on the Las Vegas Strip performing contortion. She was so incredibly flexible.
I don't care if you're made of Steele or what, but the Li always makes me cringe. Control decent or not, that has got to hurt!
ps. Great video. I don't know where you researched to find all these shots, but Bravo!!
idk if this is radical, but it would be fun if they had some kind of static hold requirement. it can show off so much strength and flexibility (and balance). but I guess the powers that be decided they want constant uninterrupted motion with no pauses or hesitation.
Totally agree. I’d love to see some kind of static balance incorporated. One arm, one leg or handstand but please not more tumbling.
If I remember correctly, in the beginning of the 01-04 quad, they tried incorporating it as a requirement on beam to do a static hold. I think Tim & Elfie mentioned it at the 2001 American Cup. Sadly, they seemed to have done away with that requirement after 2001.
Constant uninterrupted FLAILING with hideous wrist-flicks and zero flow.
The Renkin mount blew me away! Such an amazing combination of strength AND control. 😲
The Rankin, gosh...the amount of core strength needed to do that!
Great video. I don't know why mounts like the Silivas or Moceanu are also so rare -- they're not that risky.
Skye Blakely does the Silivas mount
They consume too much time and are worth nothing.
Some of the new rules are so stupid... i was watching some old gymnastics videos in which most of top gymnasts did triple twists, one of the most beautiful skills on floor. Today they are mostly doing double twists. But why??
I think it's because to do a very intrincate skill like a triple twist the gymnast need take a breath on floor corner.
I would like to know who are the responsible for making gymnastics a progressively boring, ugly and uninspiring sports??
Agreed,much of the individuality and personal Style and uniquely rare elements have been removed from current day gymnastics..Maybe they can bring the uneven bars back together and let the Gymnastics just "Go for it"..it's a dangerous sport anyway and the beauty and femininity and dance elements have been simply replaced with difficult tumbling moves.Personally I Love Old School Gymnasts with the Legends.
The rankin is one of the most unbelievable things I've seen. It doesn't look like it should be possible !
I love that first one where the gymnast backflips onto the beam. Gorgeous and amazing!
I love that Rankin damn the strength to do that. I miss all these mounts, wish they would bring them back.
Mounts like that one are tough because they take several seconds to perform and the athletes have to cram so many skills into a 90 second time limit. They still show up in NCAA routines, though, where there are fewer composition requirements and thus a bit more room for this kind of skill. Peng-Peng Lee (UCLA) famously did a very similar mount throughout her NCAA career.
They would have enough time to do the Rankin or other beautiful holds, if they didnt had to waste time on all this stupid 'artistry'
@@Margo-oj5yc So many badly done, ugly 'skills' and zero grace. Grandi , Smelly Scrim, etc, ruined gymnastics. USAG and the Karolyicunts didn't help. LOL!
I’ll take any of them being that all the beam routines look pretty much the same nowadays. I also wish they would get rid of the jazz hands
they are all cool but the Rankin is just insane i wish it would come back
Yes !!
Ranking the Rankin higher is what they should do ;)
The Rankin looks so acrobatic and playful. Seems like a move I've seen in an anime before, but it must be very difficult in reality.
Love the moceanu mount
I think athletic pole dancing should be added to the Olympics because it uses so many similar moves to those don’t by the gymnasts in this video. It’s all about strength, stretches, elegance and is actually a very hard sport.
I forget what it’s called, but I absolutely love that mount Dominique Moceanu did in the ‘96 Olympics. I know it’s not the hardest, but I’d never seen anything like it.
It's a variation on the Silivas mount, adding an extra turn. I first saw it when Dominique Moceanu did it at the 96 Olympics.
Silivas started that in at least 1988 at the Seoul Olympic, she was doing it then. She also did a variation later like in 1989 or 1990 that had her in that chest stand position but she lets go of the beam for a second or so and flexes her arms so they’re straight, putting all her weight on the chest and no arm or hand support. Anyone remember that variation? I can’t recall the first comp I saw her do it but it was just after the Seoul Olympics. I’m old ha. Edit .. double checked and she was doing this variation at the 1989 world championships so check video for that, she has a ponytail by then.
I loved watching Oksana Omelianchik's beam and floors because she had so many original moves. Todya's gymnastics is so boring and cookie cutter. Things like the Phillips should be rewarded because it's not another freaking wolf turn.
She was the absolute best gymnast of her time when it came to originality. I loved watching her programs because you never knew what she was going to do and you had to rewind the tape over and over to try to figure out what she was doing.
I think it would be super nice from a choreography perspective to see an acro series connected to the Rankin mount, I think the way it would contrast the pause in the handstand would be really pretty if it could be done well.
All of these mounts are Amazing! The "Phillips" looks Especially difficult, and appears to only be suited to those gymnasts with an extremely flexible back and flawless Balance💙🌟💙🌟💙🌟💙
I would love to see a return to strength, control and creativity in gymnastics...as well as some prettier, more fluid dance movements on floor and beam!
Exactly. Prettier and more graceful.
I am always amazed by the beauty, strength and flexibility of gymnasts. I can’t imagine the amount of bruises these women endure while mastering such moves! I hurt just watching some of these!
Balance elements should be part of the required skills.
It wasn't so long ago that a balance element with a 2 second hold, such as a scale or handstand, was a requirement.
@@Margo-oj5yc Which code was it?
It is called balance beam after all lol. If it were up to me, balance elements and your mount would be counted and required skills.
@@wsudance85 Bonus for D+ mounts, one balance skill requirement, time limit 1:45 (fifteen extra seconds to allow time for holds and whatever) and counting the mounts toward score would be awesome.
@@hannahwalmer1124 yeah, I was aware of the bonus, but it's still pretty rare to see a D+ mount these days, just like on bars, you're lucky to get anything above an A.
Dominque's mount was always my favorite. I miss seeing it
For average people with no aor no good education in sports this is altogether fantastic. Just imagining an average person jumping towards a beam and them standing in a handstand on one hand is absurd. It takes years of really hard and often painful work and of course besides the physical capabilities the will and the courage to do it again and again and again. For that these girls and women are to be admired.
The Phillips and Li both look cool, but also really painful... 😰
I agree that the Philips is beautiful & unique and beam routines have become very formulaic - but is part of the reason that we don't see a lot of moves like that is because the hyperextension of the back is quite bad for gymnasts' bodies?
Plus you have to be extremely flexible to even pull it off. All gymnasts have some form of flexibility, but some have more than others why others have less
Kristie has an exceptional degree of back flexibility, almost reminiscent of a cat. You are correct that very few gymnasts can do it without risking injury. It's not worth it.
Yeah in addition with the current cop it’s just not worth it
Only the very flexible could do it.
@@Margo-oj5yc Hypermobility is rare even among gymnasts. Kristie had the natural flexibility of a circus contortionist.
woah! The Philip mount is so beautiful 😭
That last one is the back-breaker, and the neck stand is the ‘bout-to-be-a-quadriplegic’ ster.
All of them are absolutely FIRE, but I can't get over The Li. The way she just falls. That looks PAINFUL. I could never do a mount like that!
Ogla kurbot's mount on the bars and swing. My favorite. The Li, broke my back watching her do it.
Back in the day when gymnastics was about strength, flexibility and… you know… gymnastics, rather than tumbling and jumps.
It is?????? I’m literally a gymnast what’s your problem
@@Idiot_247exactly. gymnastics is still about strength and flexibility.
Back in the old days when I did gymnastics the beam was all wood, no padding on it.
@@bdcorgimom yup, and we wore little foot socks and grinded our feet in rosin to be able to turn without slipping.
Tumbling and jumps require strength and flexibility
I remember seeing most of these mounts growing up.
Nice video.
The philipps mount is so cool!
Rankin God gifted her with that strength and art, it caught my attention
I wasn't a fan of the Rankin when I first saw it but it's grown on me and now it's one of my favorites.
My favorite is the one Dominique Moceanu always did.
Dominique Moceanu's is a variation on the Daniela Silivas mount, adding an extra turn.
The Li looks terrifying.
That RANKIN is INSANE! The powers that be seem not to know how to bring back originality to beam hence the reason why routines are generally not exciting to watch.
Li said "let me break my back right quick!"
The Rankin! Wow!
I know that today's gymnasts are very strong and do difficult moves but I prefer to watch older events likes these. I enjoy the different mounts, dismounts, and moves. More pleasing to my eye.
now all routines feel the same🙄
Love the Rankin. The rest seem physically goofy. Phillips is impressive but it leaves me more uncomfortable than impressed.
RANKIN... The Strength you have to have not only in your Arms, makes this my Favorite,, its Amazing!!! I really miss my days of Gymnastics Competition; Saturday Compulsory Routines on Sunday Optional Routines... I think it should go back to that 1970/80's.. 12 Years In Gymnastics, Competitions for 10yrs, Then Coached 2yrs.. ... ahhhh..
The Phillips is really beautiful, instead I miss Alexandra's Eremia mount in this video. Thank for making this video.
The Rankin. Wonderful
That neck thing was wild!!
These mounts are more beautiful than that redundant candle mount we always see these days.
I'm absolutely gobsmacked that these mounts have been mostly, or altogether discontinued in gymnastics today! they're incredible! and these women are incredible that they're named after. a different time, a different era. nothing ever stays the same. 😔 💕✌
Awesome. Like it
The Ranken is insane!!❤😮
Hey have you ever checked out 1976 Olympic Team Champion Svetlana Grozdova? She did, for that era, a remarkable beam routine that was "off the charts" in unique and difficult skills. She unfortunately did not medal on beam finals after a fall which is heart wrenching in my opinion.
Skye Blakely brought back a neck stand mount this season.
Rankin and Philips my favorite.
Omgosh! I kind of sucked at gymnastics but I could do the Phillips! I could do a backwalk over on the beam horizontally. I had a weird moment when I got stuck on a giant on bars & my back was extra flexible ever since. My but hit my head. It’s been 30 years but my back is still a bit flexible.
I agree, the COP does not promote anything. All routines are cookie cutter type. 🥴🤢🤮
Awesome sauce 🫙🫙🫙
DANIELA Silivas of course! THE BEST ONE!
Kristie Phillips. One of my fav ever!
The Rankin. And not because I'm Canadian, same as she is! 😉
I like all these mounts but I loved watching the 96 Olympics and seeing Dominique's mount in the clip and the flares I usually see men do on the pommel and the Philips mount is cool too
Maybe instead of just two kinds of gymnastics, artistic and rhythmic, create a new one called power gymnastics so we can see the old school type for the artistic gymnastics (that is not that artistic now given the focus on powerful moves and tumbling skills) and what we have now as another category.
Can't believe they don't want gymnasts on the beam to display their strength. The Rankin just blew me away.
All that pain those girls went through
All the five are my favorites: all genius
My favorite beam mount by far came from Kim Zmeskal 1991-1992
YES!!!
I miss original gymnastics moves! I appreciate what the gymnasts are doing today but I miss originality! Everything looks so choreographed!
PHILLIPS AND RANKIN look amazing.
You should add Alexandra Eremia beam mount
It is understandable that certain things disappeared.
Due to the fact that they are very dangerous.
It is nice and exciting to look at but at later age it can also give disabilities.
I like the neck stand and thr phillips
What flexibility these moves take
😂just watching the Li my back hurts 🤕 instantly 😅😅
I would much rather see this elegance!
The Li and the Phillips look painful. The neck mount is the only one I like. Very unique and different.
The greatest mount is the one where they jump on a springboard and somersault onto the beam and land solidly on their feet. Nothing harder than that. All others are mere child's play compared to that mount.
Это Великолепно и одновременно некоторые страшные элементы для тела и здоровья.
Phillips and Rankin the best!!!
Li Yifang is doing her employee skills on balance.
Some of these make my back cry uncle!!
When the first clip of the Phillips was showed , the girl only used the fingers😮!!!
Canada's Leah Homma took the Baitova and made ALL of her flairs Thomas flairs.
Check out variation silivas did on her own mount as of 1989 worlds.
My favorite mount is the neck stand
Same
Moceanu's mount is spectacular. My fave by far.
they all look very painfull, sometimes I put my foot too far on the step of the stairs, that already hurt. Imagen that bar, no cushioning, it is rock hard!
The shushanova was frowned upon .in those days new moves were not encouraged
The Li looks a great way to damage the Lumbar vertebrae
I hope to see someone perform Moceanu’s neck stand mount before I die.
The Rankin😮😮😮😮
For sure Dominique Moceanu she's just my favorite since I was little I remember going to the 96 Olympics seeing her perform it n Devil Went Down to Georgia floor routine I got this book signed by all of em the Magnificent 7 Shannon Miller would be my 2nd fav then Dominique Dawes idk how I still can remember all of this I stopped flying to TX to train in 7th grade and my life just kinda became more more shit but this still puts a dial on my smile every time
Agree that the beam has become repetitive and bland these days. So good to see the incredible athleticism in times past.