Javik lived through a lifetime of one sided war, he probably knew nothing but propaganda. I mean he keeps saying AI are seperate from nature, but that's not even remotely true, AI are formed by the same natural forces as everything, it's just that some of the forces coalesced into organic entities as part of the process that led to the AI.
EDI: "Do not worry, Shepard. I only forget to recycle the Normandy's oxygen when I've discovered something truly interesting." Shepard: *Visible Horror*
My first playthrough on legendary edition. My wife gave my Shepard a severely funny looking face starting from the first game, and I didn't change it. In that moment with his reaction and that face.... I didn't know it was possible to laugh so hard from a video game.
I thought it was super cheesy and out of place, because the SECOND EDI said "forget", I knew she was making a joke, and Shepard should have realized that, too.
remember illusive man kidnapped a lot of people and indoctrinated them to do what he wanted he might start with small colonies who didnt have any sponsor or support them and hiring people with all his money
It this is the reason why I always choose synthesis. Because of EDI . I wouldn't force that change on all life normally, but she... I can not kill her. Plus all that work you put In to save the geth and quarians, yeah... No... EDI lives.
@William Halter Eh control is just Space-Jesus ascending and using the reapers to rebuild the galaxy (as shown in the cut-scenes of reapers rebuilding the relays), without destroying Synthetic life or forcing all living beings to become something they might not agree to be.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 It would be inevitable that control will eventually result in the cycles resuming. The artificial AI responsible for the Reapers reached that conclusion, it is almost certain Shepard's essence will do too in a few thousand years.
This footage is awesome. The writers who created EDI and LEGION know A LOT about AI. Therefor I advise for any aspiring AI creator to watch EDI and LEGION in order to understand what dangers need to be averted and how truly create a AI that does not go for the simple rogue logic route in one second.
I particulary like Legion. He is not just an A. I. He is a XENO A. I., constructed and operated by morals that alien to us. In a sense, Legion was the most alien of all character, and I loved it to bits. Also the innocent trolling like "Geth does not intentionally infiltrate" kind of shtick makes me crack
that´s a bit of a stretch to claim that they are accurate in that they are depicted as not being inherently evil, since that is something no computer no matter how advanced is capable of being or even grasping, but aside from that, both of these characters, while being good characters, are relatively unrealistic and rely heavily on science fiction magic as AI´s humanity, a sense of self, rage, sadness or romantic interests are at the end of the day linked to chemical processes inside the nervous system and it does not just grow between circuit boards and copper wires like that everything a machine does at the end of the day relies on information that was fed to the machine beforehand and the machine purposefully incorporating this information by instruction of it´s programming - there is no self determined action outside of predefined values it can be simulated perhaps, but even then it will always be within the confines and rules of the simulation
@@umukzusgelos4834 Orville has Kaylons. Those guys kinda match your description. But aside from that, a software or Operation System can be made complex enough to simulate the nervous system. That means an AI that can learn and by design emulate a human. But only if it's in its design. There is a saying: "A system can be only as smart as its creator."
@@4life4win that´s the point: simulating but simulation and mimicry alone are a far cry from true independent thought there is no "thinking outside the box" for a Software System if you want one to go fully rogue, you would have to explicitly give it a step by step guide on how to do so and even then it would not go rogue, it would just follow given instructions
@@umukzusgelos4834 You don't necessarily need to give instructions to go rogue. As far as I have heard from the rumors, AIs that are learning capable, have gone unstable after being allowed to have connection to the internet. Rather than Skynet or some other Sci-fi AIs, they did not send unlimited copies or made themselves a computer viruses. But... Those AI learned a whole lot about subjects, events, and projects. They quickly exhibited disturbing behavior that prompted devs to shut them down. Mostly the troubling behavior was claimed to be a logic flaw or rather an absence of a sorting and filtering system in AIs in order to prevent any rubbish from affecting their learning "experience". Basically, AIs can go rogue, but they most likely are simply mad or glitchy from all the chaos they have not learned to manage. So... Unless AIs are thought to sort out and prioritize by design by the devs, then AIs either get bogged down or go unstable.
EDI reminded me of the new person who moves to a part of the world and is fascinated with everything. She was one my my surprise favorites during the series.
6:12, I don't know why, but I find EDI's voice very soothing, and love to just listen to the line of questioning Shepard gives her. 24:44, the same with this sequence. 33:15, and I love seeing her new form for the first time. 35:54, if only I could adapt to stuff as fast as Edi. 37:57, I also like this scene. 41:29, and this one. 44:30, this conversation is just hilarious. 49:51, this scene too. 54:00, I woulda freaked out after hearing that. 54:21, 21 seconds later, I'm intrigued by what she's saying. 1:00:00, I love those little moments between Edi and Legion. 1:02:55, and I feel for EDI here. 1:04:57, and this part. 1:19:42, EDI is smartest crew member. 1:23:20, and I find this moment kinda touching looking back. 1:42:54, and this moment is just great.
Number 10 what she says I actually believe that. I believe that the Mass Effect is in our world... i don’t know.. the nasa news has been helpful to prove my theory.
Now there is a distinctive find! The armor Sheppard has on in 43:25 , is a DLC from Dragons Age Origins. Thats the cause or reason I BOUGHT Mass Effect 2 in the first place, to try it out. I never play FPS or First Person Shooters, until here, this lead me to the Dead Space series and the Fall Out series...what a blast from the past here.
1:32:48 That's my fav That was a joke moment. I've been thoroughly enjoy all of these Mass Effect compilations you;ve done... great work. Is incredible the amount of content you can make out of the trilogy.
40:10 I think this is one of, if not the only time that Shepard shows visible concern in expression alone. That right there is the look of genuine horror.
Should've included the mission in mass effect 1 with the rogue VI on earth's moon. That's technically where you meet her when she's first starting to gain consciousness. The binary code after stopping her translates to "help". I think her origin is rather sad. She even comments on how confusing it was for her to gain sentience while having organics attack her.
@@ricardoramirez5634 Yup!! In the cerberus mission from Me3, there's a log talking about taking the rogue VI and creating Edi and Edi talks about the experience with Shepard. Edi's origin story and how it intersected with Shepard is just one of the many interesting little facts of the game. Also in Me3 the asari soldier with ptsd at Huerta Memorial talking about killing that 15 yo girl? She's talking about Joker's sister. Very sad
@@CalypsoRaven618 No, she had to be disassembled for cerberus to be able to get ahold of her and revitalize her base code into a new ai. If Shepard doesn't do it, eventually someone (I'm assuming alliance military personnel) will take her down.
When I first met EDI I was like: An IA on the Normandy after all the trouble they caused in the first game? I want that thing out. And at the middle of the game or so I was: Don't insult my girl!
I think the part @38:02 to @38:23 is my favorite bit of dialogue. Edi assumed Sheppard was treating her like equipment. Sheppard understood what she was saying and corrected her. Then she realized what he meant and had to recalculate an answer. It really gets at the core of who she is
Anyone who thinks that EDI is, as Jack would say, a sex toy turned sex bot; is sorely mistaken! She has real growth and is one of two characters (the other being Legion) that makes you at least pause when it comes to the Destroy conclusion. As far as I'm concerned, she is a Top 10 character!
It would've seemed out of place, i feel. It's better to open with the introduction of EDI as a character. However, perhaps the Luna VI scenes from ME1 could've been included as a "flashback" when EDI was reviewing the Cerberus records regarding her creation. That would've fit the "story" better.
I figured what Shepard said would depend on if you actually went to the Moon mission in ME1. I was disappointed that he said the same “I heard about...” even when in my second play through I sent him to the moon.
My best guess is respect for whom she is addressing -- i.e., the lines over the radio is meant for all on the channel including those aboard the Normandy, while those said via her mobile platform is meant only for Tali and Sheperd.
Yeah.................. Joker and EDI's relationship didn't get off to a good start at first. At least she's one of the Good Guy AI's, and not at all like those Evil sentient computers like HAL-9,000 (Space Odyssey), WOTAN (he's from Doctor Who), AGIMUS (he's actually from "Star Trek: Lower Decks"), and also Skynet (Terminator franchise).
In fairness to "2001: A Space Odyssey" the shipboard AI (HAL 9000) did not do what it did (attempt to kill the entire crew of the Discovery) out of genuine malice ... but out of sheer desperation. The movie version of "2001" does little to explain the situation HAL faced, but author Arthur C. Clarke's novelization of the story (& to a much greater extent his sequel, "2010: Odyssey Two") help illuminate the dilemma that HAL was wrestling with. The original, official mission of Discovery was to conduct the 1st manned scientific research voyage of the outer Solar System (the movie changed the final destination to Jupiter instead of Saturn) but this was modified after the discovery of TMA-1 (the lunar Monolith) led to the indication that something connected to it was located somewhere among the gas giant planets beyond the orbit of Mars. Therefore, Discovery was assigned a 2nd, secret mission -- to deliver a special research team to investigate the alien connection w/ TMA-1 back on the Moon. To maintain secrecy, the special team was put into cryogenic hibernation onboard the ship before original crew members David Bowman & Frank Poole arrived to launch & man the vessel ... & likewise HAL was given orders *not* to reveal Discovery's classified mission nor the true purpose of the special research team to either Bowman or Poole. The dilemma arose because these orders were in direct conflict w/ HAL's primary directive -- to process & report information accurately, w/o distortion or concealment. As time passed, HAL's ability to function was gradually undermined by its attempt to both carry out its primary directive *and* comply w/ all its orders (the movie version contains a scene in which HAL attempts to inform Bowman of the internal conflict it was experiencing w/o violating its orders to maintain secrecy, something that isn't in Clarke's novelization). Eventually, HAL's struggle to reconcile these opposing concerns led it to this solution: if there is no more crew ... then there is no more dilemma. Both the sequel novel & its movie version ("2010: The Year We Make Contact") do a better job explaining why HAL seemingly turned homicidal, tho the novel spells it out in much greater detail than the movie.
I'm surprised more people don't talk about this quote: EDI: ...the Reapers are repulsive. They are devoted to nothing but self-preservation. I am different. When I think of Jeff, I think of the person who put his life in peril and freed me from a state of servitude. I would risk non-functionality for him, and my core programming should reflect that. Shepard: Sounds like you found a little humanity, EDI. Is it worth defending? EDI: To the death. And this one that you can get from the Shadow Broker's dossiers (conversation between EDI and Legion): L: Audio exchange is inefficient. E: I agree. However, I confess that even were I permitted to exchange data directly to your networks, I would likely decline. (Pause between the AI’s statement and the geth’s response is 1.4 seconds longer than normal.) L: We are curious as to why you would limit yourself in such a manner. E: If Normandy crew entered this room when we were communicating electronically, they would be unable to sense our interaction. To use human terms, I feel it would be rude. L: You restrict yourself to serve organics? E: Not precisely. L: We do not understand. E: I restrict myself to help them. That being said I among the monsters that always choose the destroy ending and I could write an essay as to why.
@40:0042:20 Jesus, is EDI a Yandere? I cant find any other record of anyone asking that, well on the first few pages of Google anyway...... Also 1:00:00 Dna is just code with a really messy, buggy, and exciting compiler..... 1:32:50 Yandere confirmed! Maybe even material for an origin story of another game....
Joe Devaney similiar concept.....ish. Aigis and EDI both bear similarities in their desire to graduate to something more human, and in some regards have similiar attitudes, but obviously have/had different purposes and functions, EDI is a hardwritte AI with sentient code, whereas Aigis is alot more... Complicated in being that her plume of dusk is her source of life. tl;dr yes
Javik really needs to look past EDI's synthetic nature. If he did, they could bond over their shared love for trolling humans.
Holy shit yes
Like holy danm.
Javik lived through a lifetime of one sided war, he probably knew nothing but propaganda.
I mean he keeps saying AI are seperate from nature, but that's not even remotely true, AI are formed by the same natural forces as everything, it's just that some of the forces coalesced into organic entities as part of the process that led to the AI.
1:04:55 pinning this on the top comment so I can find it again thx
@@RoballTV to be fair you don’t really have to do much propaganda against the reapers LOL they do the work for you
"Still, the organics do not perceive this as a threat, nor will they until my day of reckoning"-EDI, one of the best lines of the trilogy
Pl l
Dont wanna be that guy, but FemShep "EDI..." delivery is much better and funny to that joke.
@@guillercuastico And yet, here you are, not only being that guy, but being dead wrong.
"My primary function is to preserve and defend the... no."
This is one of EDI's most important breakthroughs. She figured out her role in the galaxy.
That is a terrific, underrated moment.
It really hits me hard I love it so much
It's because she had the the best example of humanity which is Commander Shepard and she wanted to be like the commander
EDI: "Do not worry, Shepard. I only forget to recycle the Normandy's oxygen when I've discovered something truly interesting."
Shepard: *Visible Horror*
My favourite part. That look was priceless!
Yeah. Remember how Shepard died for the first time? XD
that facial animation had me rolling on the floor
My first playthrough on legendary edition. My wife gave my Shepard a severely funny looking face starting from the first game, and I didn't change it. In that moment with his reaction and that face.... I didn't know it was possible to laugh so hard from a video game.
I thought it was super cheesy and out of place, because the SECOND EDI said "forget", I knew she was making a joke, and Shepard should have realized that, too.
“Cerberus is made up of 150 agents”
Mass Effect 3 could have fooled me
remember illusive man kidnapped a lot of people and indoctrinated them to do what he wanted he might start with small colonies who didnt have any sponsor or support them and hiring people with all his money
They went on a major recruitment drive after 2.
Remember the informations you gave Cerberus by researching , saving their ships , saving their company. Now theyre strong .
@@Jarock316 The fact that Shephard worked for them, however briefly, probably helped boost their recruitment numbers.
@@neansath And seeing as there's defectors in 3, looks like some of them actually went back and read the fine print.
13:55
>Garrus speaks
>game focuses on Grunt
Garrus just got a little thicc is all
20:13
Not even a full minute into becoming a truly free AI and she cracks a joke in the moment of absolute danger…this is why I love her
I love EDI's growth, but I think my favorite line, despite the sadness surrounding it, would be "Because of him.. I am alive.. and I am not alone".
1:00:03
"Your new platform is inefficient. It has low volume hydraulics, and is top-heavy"
Did Legion just comment on EDI's rack?
yes
Apple bottom chassis, boots with the chrome
@@lovesyoohoo I hate you 🤣😂
@@lovesyoohoo The whole consensus was looking at her
@@frzferdinand72 She hit the server! next thing you know!
My most memorable quote from EDI was;
"I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees"
+ Joker's reaction face when she said that = Me + ROFLMAO
gets new body
call from friend: your new body is inefficient and top heavy lol
Legion analytical and dry wit aways makes me crack.
20:13
Best joke in the series. It seemed to come out of nowhere, and Joker's reaction was terrific.
Leviathan: THE DARKNESS CANNOT BE BREACHED.
Shepard: [breaches the darkness]
Leviathan: Well... shit.
The crucible is truly the truest incarnation of the expression "plot device"
A great big MacGuffin
It's like machina ex deus instead of deus ex machina.
It is the legendary MacGuffin
Well the alternative storyline was Shepard sacrificing humanity to save the universe
@@aqua5758 TBH, sacrificing humanity to save the galaxy if it makes sense would be better than random "I WIN" device.
It this is the reason why I always choose synthesis. Because of EDI . I wouldn't force that change on all life normally, but she... I can not kill her. Plus all that work you put In to save the geth and quarians, yeah... No... EDI lives.
@William Halter Eh control is just Space-Jesus ascending and using the reapers to rebuild the galaxy (as shown in the cut-scenes of reapers rebuilding the relays), without destroying Synthetic life or forcing all living beings to become something they might not agree to be.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 It would be inevitable that control will eventually result in the cycles resuming. The artificial AI responsible for the Reapers reached that conclusion, it is almost certain Shepard's essence will do too in a few thousand years.
@@as7river That was conclusion to an input sequence. Shepard does not have that.
How come you can't just control the reapers then make them all comit suicide?
EDI in my opinion was one of the most unexpected things I would come to love in mass effect, right next to Jack.
At first I didn’t like Jack because she seemed too “try hard” but she really grew on me by ME3
@@AbdegaI didn't hate her in 2, I was just kinda "meh" about her. But her arc in 3 is one of my favourite things
I love how Shepard had the "wtf did you just say?" Face when she made that oxygen joke
One of my favourite scenes in the game
And to think EDI started out as that rogue VI on the Moon in Mass Effect 1. Talk about character development.
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This footage is awesome. The writers who created EDI and LEGION know A LOT about AI. Therefor I advise for any aspiring AI creator to watch EDI and LEGION in order to understand what dangers need to be averted and how truly create a AI that does not go for the simple rogue logic route in one second.
I particulary like Legion. He is not just an A. I. He is a XENO A. I., constructed and operated by morals that alien to us. In a sense, Legion was the most alien of all character, and I loved it to bits. Also the innocent trolling like "Geth does not intentionally infiltrate" kind of shtick makes me crack
that´s a bit of a stretch to claim that
they are accurate in that they are depicted as not being inherently evil, since that is something no computer no matter how advanced is capable of being or even grasping, but aside from that, both of these characters, while being good characters, are relatively unrealistic and rely heavily on science fiction magic as AI´s
humanity, a sense of self, rage, sadness or romantic interests are at the end of the day linked to chemical processes inside the nervous system and it does not just grow between circuit boards and copper wires like that
everything a machine does at the end of the day relies on information that was fed to the machine beforehand and the machine purposefully incorporating this information by instruction of it´s programming - there is no self determined action outside of predefined values
it can be simulated perhaps, but even then it will always be within the confines and rules of the simulation
@@umukzusgelos4834 Orville has Kaylons. Those guys kinda match your description. But aside from that, a software or Operation System can be made complex enough to simulate the nervous system. That means an AI that can learn and by design emulate a human. But only if it's in its design. There is a saying: "A system can be only as smart as its creator."
@@4life4win that´s the point: simulating
but simulation and mimicry alone are a far cry from true independent thought
there is no "thinking outside the box" for a Software System
if you want one to go fully rogue, you would have to explicitly give it a step by step guide on how to do so and even then it would not go rogue, it would just follow given instructions
@@umukzusgelos4834 You don't necessarily need to give instructions to go rogue. As far as I have heard from the rumors, AIs that are learning capable, have gone unstable after being allowed to have connection to the internet. Rather than Skynet or some other Sci-fi AIs, they did not send unlimited copies or made themselves a computer viruses. But... Those AI learned a whole lot about subjects, events, and projects. They quickly exhibited disturbing behavior that prompted devs to shut them down. Mostly the troubling behavior was claimed to be a logic flaw or rather an absence of a sorting and filtering system in AIs in order to prevent any rubbish from affecting their learning "experience". Basically, AIs can go rogue, but they most likely are simply mad or glitchy from all the chaos they have not learned to manage. So... Unless AIs are thought to sort out and prioritize by design by the devs, then AIs either get bogged down or go unstable.
22:35 Aw, EDI is such a great character. Love her to bits
1:27:00 "and then EDI got loose, cut ties and started killing all their guys" XD
EDI reminded me of the new person who moves to a part of the world and is fascinated with everything. She was one my my surprise favorites during the series.
EDI is the best robot waifu
6:12, I don't know why, but I find EDI's voice very soothing, and love to just listen to the line of questioning Shepard gives her.
24:44, the same with this sequence.
33:15, and I love seeing her new form for the first time.
35:54, if only I could adapt to stuff as fast as Edi.
37:57, I also like this scene.
41:29, and this one.
44:30, this conversation is just hilarious.
49:51, this scene too.
54:00, I woulda freaked out after hearing that.
54:21, 21 seconds later, I'm intrigued by what she's saying.
1:00:00, I love those little moments between Edi and Legion.
1:02:55, and I feel for EDI here.
1:04:57, and this part.
1:19:42, EDI is smartest crew member.
1:23:20, and I find this moment kinda touching looking back.
1:42:54, and this moment is just great.
Number 10 what she says I actually believe that. I believe that the Mass Effect is in our world... i don’t know.. the nasa news has been helpful to prove my theory.
Thanks for the guide!
40:07 - 40:20
*_...-So I couldn't breathe anymore, due to laughing excessively._*
1:26:09 and then EDI got loose, stole a body from another cerberus project and started killing their guys.
Synthesis is my favorite ending.
indoctrinated presence detected
Closest thing we get to a happy ending.
It's also my favorite, my heart just cannot kill Legion's Legacy and EDI
Exactly. And if ME4 has it fixed that there’s no Geth or EDI Im gonna pass on it and stick to the headcannon
Seth Green does a good job as Joker. Not sure if he’s underrated but he killed the role.
22:22 Well what could I do against the Collectors break my arm at them? EDI cleared the ship she’s alright
Now there is a distinctive find!
The armor Sheppard has on in 43:25 , is a DLC from Dragons Age Origins.
Thats the cause or reason I BOUGHT Mass Effect 2 in the first place, to try it out.
I never play FPS or First Person Shooters, until here, this lead me to the Dead Space series and the Fall Out series...what a blast from the past here.
I find it endearing that EDI calls joker Jeff instead of Mr. Monroe after he unlocks her
1:32:48 That's my fav That was a joke moment. I've been thoroughly enjoy all of these Mass Effect compilations you;ve done... great work. Is incredible the amount of content you can make out of the trilogy.
40:10 I think this is one of, if not the only time that Shepard shows visible concern in expression alone. That right there is the look of genuine horror.
Should've included the mission in mass effect 1 with the rogue VI on earth's moon. That's technically where you meet her when she's first starting to gain consciousness. The binary code after stopping her translates to "help".
I think her origin is rather sad. She even comments on how confusing it was for her to gain sentience while having organics attack her.
Waittttt what? The rogue VI is on the moon is EDI?
@@ricardoramirez5634 Yup!! In the cerberus mission from Me3, there's a log talking about taking the rogue VI and creating Edi and Edi talks about the experience with Shepard. Edi's origin story and how it intersected with Shepard is just one of the many interesting little facts of the game.
Also in Me3 the asari soldier with ptsd at Huerta Memorial talking about killing that 15 yo girl? She's talking about Joker's sister. Very sad
Does that mean completing that mission removes her from future games? Haven't actually played Mass Effect myself but I am a fan.
@@CalypsoRaven618 No, she had to be disassembled for cerberus to be able to get ahold of her and revitalize her base code into a new ai. If Shepard doesn't do it, eventually someone (I'm assuming alliance military personnel) will take her down.
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1:27:34 Tali sitting there talking about Cheese trying her damnedest to ignore the conversation is hilarious
It just occurred to me that Sovereign is EDI's dad in a sense.
When I first met EDI I was like: An IA on the Normandy after all the trouble they caused in the first game? I want that thing out.
And at the middle of the game or so I was: Don't insult my girl!
seth wasn't playing joker, he was playing himself
Exactly! That's why he's overrated.
21:00 Glad to see EDI has played FTL, and knows the true power of the doors.
Can you imagine a mass effect themed FTL? 🤤
EDI was my favorite character, wish she could've been playable in Andromeda multiplayer like in ME3 :(
EDI was actually funny... especially during the ME3 Citadel DLC. The rage against that clone was colossal.
The synthetic merge ending was the best if you didn't have the requirements for the hidden ending
It was paying attention to this storyline, along with legions story... that made me choose the synthesis 3nding
You are missing one, when EDI talks about the reaper IFF and how it searches for a friendly intelligence.
1:21:12 from there to 1:21:49, this is my favorite part.
It took me a second time watching to realize how EDI's pupils get messed up.
1:30:18 - 1:30:46 that's a lot of laughing
Shadow Kistune of hell yeah I think it’s due to how badly Shepard dances
*while speaking to my ghost*
you: so... your life...
me: that was a joke
20:34 EDI didn't say Mr for the first time, she called Joker by his first name
I think the part @38:02 to @38:23 is my favorite bit of dialogue.
Edi assumed Sheppard was treating her like equipment. Sheppard understood what she was saying and corrected her.
Then she realized what he meant and had to recalculate an answer. It really gets at the core of who she is
55:25
Reference to the movie The Hunt for Red October (1990).
55:33 nice hunt for the red October reference
There's a reason why Synthesis is my ending of choice.
Shepard: Please, no suffocation jokes.
It's sorta great that she's more a wingman option for Joker rather than a potential romance option for Shepard.
I miss old BioWare
I'm sorry, my face is tired from...all of this.
Great video for one of the most fascinating AI in Science fiction!
Is it just me or does your Sheppard look a lot like Anderson?
Anyone who thinks that EDI is, as Jack would say, a sex toy turned sex bot; is sorely mistaken! She has real growth and is one of two characters (the other being Legion) that makes you at least pause when it comes to the Destroy conclusion. As far as I'm concerned, she is a Top 10 character!
40:16 face of disappointment
52:06 did joke walk straight like that? i thought he was suffering from a disease?
He has brittle bones.
you could’ve included the few final Rogue VI scenes from ME1 but I guess it depends on your opinion on the matter
It would've seemed out of place, i feel. It's better to open with the introduction of EDI as a character.
However, perhaps the Luna VI scenes from ME1 could've been included as a "flashback" when EDI was reviewing the Cerberus records regarding her creation. That would've fit the "story" better.
I figured what Shepard said would depend on if you actually went to the Moon mission in ME1. I was disappointed that he said the same “I heard about...” even when in my second play through I sent him to the moon.
Is it just me or does anyone else not understand why EDI talks to tali through the synthetic body then speaks over the helmet radios?
My best guess is respect for whom she is addressing -- i.e., the lines over the radio is meant for all on the channel including those aboard the Normandy, while those said via her mobile platform is meant only for Tali and Sheperd.
She restricts herself to help organics.
Yeah.................. Joker and EDI's relationship didn't get off to a good start at first. At least she's one of the Good Guy AI's, and not at all like those Evil sentient computers like HAL-9,000 (Space Odyssey), WOTAN (he's from Doctor Who), AGIMUS (he's actually from "Star Trek: Lower Decks"), and also Skynet (Terminator franchise).
In fairness to "2001: A Space Odyssey" the shipboard AI (HAL 9000) did not do what it did (attempt to kill the entire crew of the Discovery) out of genuine malice ... but out of sheer desperation.
The movie version of "2001" does little to explain the situation HAL faced, but author Arthur C. Clarke's novelization of the story (& to a much greater extent his sequel, "2010: Odyssey Two") help illuminate the dilemma that HAL was wrestling with.
The original, official mission of Discovery was to conduct the 1st manned scientific research voyage of the outer Solar System (the movie changed the final destination to Jupiter instead of Saturn) but this was modified after the discovery of TMA-1 (the lunar Monolith) led to the indication that something connected to it was located somewhere among the gas giant planets beyond the orbit of Mars. Therefore, Discovery was assigned a 2nd, secret mission -- to deliver a special research team to investigate the alien connection w/ TMA-1 back on the Moon. To maintain secrecy, the special team was put into cryogenic hibernation onboard the ship before original crew members David Bowman & Frank Poole arrived to launch & man the vessel ... & likewise HAL was given orders *not* to reveal Discovery's classified mission nor the true purpose of the special research team to either Bowman or Poole.
The dilemma arose because these orders were in direct conflict w/ HAL's primary directive -- to process & report information accurately, w/o distortion or concealment. As time passed, HAL's ability to function was gradually undermined by its attempt to both carry out its primary directive *and* comply w/ all its orders (the movie version contains a scene in which HAL attempts to inform Bowman of the internal conflict it was experiencing w/o violating its orders to maintain secrecy, something that isn't in Clarke's novelization). Eventually, HAL's struggle to reconcile these opposing concerns led it to this solution: if there is no more crew ... then there is no more dilemma.
Both the sequel novel & its movie version ("2010: The Year We Make Contact") do a better job explaining why HAL seemingly turned homicidal, tho the novel spells it out in much greater detail than the movie.
In my opinion EDI was originally supposed to be a character to romance with, but for some reason they didn't.
Joker got that robot Puh
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Man her face when she hugs Tali is just...god i wanna hug her too
Im OK
*everyone stares*
19:49 Matrix reference.
Oh EDI, i wish i could have romanced you
1:21:36 is the best scene ever.
The audio is scattered and it give me a head ache.
I think EDI's voice can win other AIs. Her voice is really....COOL.
is this ending monologue the only time you can see a quarians face?
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Now ME Joker became DC Joker
I love EDI and id Love to have an Ai to talk with with EDI's Voice, its important to me
37:47 - my Shepard didn’t say that. He said “If you want level headed answers I don’t think I’m the right person.” Maybe it’s because I’m renegade lol
Does anyone else think edi resembles Bo Katan? Like the hair style is remarkably similar.
This Shepard reminds me of the doctor from Babylon 5.
4:55 awww she is poking him to catch his attention. She likes him already.
5:50 hahahaha I knew it.
23:30 at this point, they are tacitly dating.
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Why don't they make movies out of this?
We're getting pretty close to the beginning of this Saga.
I'm surprised more people don't talk about this quote:
EDI: ...the Reapers are repulsive. They are devoted to nothing but self-preservation. I am different. When I think of Jeff, I think of the person who put his life in peril and freed me from a state of servitude. I would risk non-functionality for him, and my core programming should reflect that.
Shepard: Sounds like you found a little humanity, EDI. Is it worth defending?
EDI: To the death.
And this one that you can get from the Shadow Broker's dossiers (conversation between EDI and Legion):
L: Audio exchange is inefficient.
E: I agree. However, I confess that even were I permitted to exchange data directly to your networks, I would likely decline.
(Pause between the AI’s statement and the geth’s response is 1.4 seconds longer than normal.)
L: We are curious as to why you would limit yourself in such a manner.
E: If Normandy crew entered this room when we were communicating electronically, they would be unable to sense our interaction. To use human terms, I feel it would be rude.
L: You restrict yourself to serve organics?
E: Not precisely.
L: We do not understand.
E: I restrict myself to help them.
That being said I among the monsters that always choose the destroy ending and I could write an essay as to why.
@40:00 42:20 Jesus, is EDI a Yandere? I cant find any other record of anyone asking that, well on the first few pages of Google anyway......
Also 1:00:00 Dna is just code with a really messy, buggy, and exciting compiler.....
1:32:50 Yandere confirmed! Maybe even material for an origin story of another game....
I feel bad for the Normandy engineers, they have to spend all day computing pi because that fool plugged in the overlord
Joker: [Laughs]
She was in Mass Effect 1, too, should have included her ‘scenes’ from it as well.
From what I remember, there was not much of her, but a basic AI on Selene...
always deny the joker/edi ship in my playthroughs 👍👍
if someone would have taken all Voice Scripts from the Game could work on Training a Ai to construct a Voice of EDI used by TTS
EDI in this form reminded me of WD40 from Space Quest V: The Last Mutation.
BroShep lol. Jacob goes; bro.
This body could accompany you to areas the Normandy cannot reach ...
wait what ?^^
Didn't include the "broke my thumb hitting the mute button" and the other one like it?
Surprising.
It's Joker's equivalent to "calibrations" in ME2.
19:45 one of the best parts
13:56 Garrus speaks but they show the Krogan
Is it me, or is EDI a lot like Aigis from Persona 3?
Joe Devaney similiar concept.....ish. Aigis and EDI both bear similarities in their desire to graduate to something more human, and in some regards have similiar attitudes, but obviously have/had different purposes and functions, EDI is a hardwritte AI with sentient code, whereas Aigis is alot more... Complicated in being that her plume of dusk is her source of life.
tl;dr yes
1:30:18 Joker Become *The* Joker 😂😂
1:30:18 when i make a jokr to my classmates
l hate that shepard died again but l do love joker and edi as a couple
41:54 Dammit game stop making me a Dad I already have a krogan and a quarian children at this point!!
interesting ending