Kohdok Talks about Bakugan's Remake Remake for a bit.
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- As Bakugan Battle Planet limps through its fifth year, rumors are stirring that a new series is in the works! But what has been so far revealed, and what is on the cusp of being left behind?
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Wasn't them leaning into more and more gimmicks is what lead to the discontinuation of the original? Really hope they know what they were doing
I'd say it was a combination of fatigue and price hikes. The toys doubled in price over the course of just three years.
If it was a reason, that was due to all the external pieces
Looking at new toys, they clearly don't
Nop, more gimmicks, more crap to sell
No it was pumping and dumping it. You at most had 2 years.
completely agree on the beyblade comparison with g3. if bakugan, an intermittent brand with somewhat flagging sales, tries to compete with beyblade, an apparently evergreen brand by a bigger company, they are absolutely going to lose. and, honestly, i think the flagging sales are their own fault for relying on so many reissues of the same molds. we havent had any new ultras since 2021, and the only new molds in legends are the novas. people who aren’t collectors like me are only going to accept so many repaints. basically, spinmaster has been presented their own grave like ebenezer scrooge, but have decided the problem is that the hole is not deep enough.
Pfff, hard rebooting every 5 years Will be tiresome
Ideas What they can do
-instead of life decking, just make a separate main deck and life deck. Main deck contains the usual castable cards. Life deck contains the flip cards.
-they should really start treating their product, not as a novelty item, and more if a competitive trading card game.
Then again, that's just me.
Great idea, that concept would be useful for the trading card game.
It is nice to see you making videos about Bakugan again. Hope to see more videos from you soon:)
Honestly miss how big year 1 and year 2 was for the reboot. Seeing the community come together, youtubers here and there like Negative Legend, The Detective, Ragin Cajun, Bakublade Legacy or Illinuc posting videos about bakugan was so awesome at the time. Sad to have seen it all end. I'll still be here with this NEW reboot but man, it still hits deep man.
Yeah, they managed to generate a ton of hype, yet somehow wasted most of it almost immediately
even Jett Kuso is now making videos on B Daman and Monsuno
The ravages of time
Bah, was just for advertasing, Spin máster never though Bakugan as a competitivo thing, was just a facade to sell nostaligic people
Bakublade so is real or bootleg?
From your description of the reboot card system I'm getting worrying redakai vibes.
Yep, and probable Will hard flop too, but they now pursuing chinese money, cause Spin tops are super popular there
I hope someday we get a Bakugan TCG that spinmasters wont reboot and treat with care. As a die hard fan of the Legacy, Bakutech, and BP/G2 Im willing to give G3 a chance but I dont like the idea of rebooting the series again. fingers crossed for the best I guess
what would be good is that the BP tcg continues but with characters from legacy, bakutech and G3 showing up as playable cards with retcon stats so people can use the other balls in the BP game with new stats on the cards// just my thoughts as someone who likes writing rule sets
Nahh, Bakugan is doomed
@@RolandTemplar i dissagre its fine I just dont like some decisions they may be making, I get they may be going for a difrent audience but I think the TCG should have been their priority IMO
@@drybonesmunchakoopas5143 TCG again? They cannot handle that, better they must digo more in pawn patrol
@@RolandTemplar if they treat it like they have been with the G2 TCG i agree, but since i really love the TCG i just think it would be neat if they changed the way they manage the TCG and actualy gave it the support it needs, they have the resources and it can pay off but they made some strange choices so far, G2 seasons 1 and 2 were good they should have gone deeper in that direction IMO
Something I thought could’ve happened thanks to an aspect of the show’s setting was a quick crossover with the old series as a neat nod and maybe give a little context to what at least Dan Kuso and Drago were doing. While I couldn’t see much past Geogan Rising looks like they wouldn’t take that opportunity unfortunately but it isn’t too bad of a show on its own just could’ve done serialization better at times
I always had the same hope, like some sort of TMNT forver or spiderman no way home type of thing where they crossover with the OG series. The closest we got was Leonidas from the original game returning in COV and getting a new form, I wish they expanded on it more.
I guess I can still hope for a battle brawlers legacy crossover in G3, maybe they can even throw in G2 and Bakutech. theres definitely potential at least
Can't happen, G1 designs are from sega Toys
@@RolandTemplar not really true we recently got G1 merch, funkpops, and even a statue of Dan and Drago based on season 1 of the legacy show.
@@drybonesmunchakoopas5143 yeah? Maybe they recovered the designs? But still a crossover is very unlikely
@@RolandTemplar yup we also got Leonidas as a toy and in a game(though the game is mediocre). And crossovers with past gens are becoming really comon now adays so i have my fingers crossed
Started watching you back in the bakugan days. Hearing you talk about the old Vilantor memes was super nostalgic!
Bakugan: The Threeboot.
I don't know _why_ it's being rebooted again, the toys are still consistently selling out here in Australia, or at least in my state... odd.
Probably because the show needed to be rebooted due to their starting demographic aging out of it. Also probably trying to have a game that’s easier to localize by not having text that needs to be translated since they don’t have strong distribution so they wanted to reboot the game.
Regardless I think they should have opted for a softer reboot. Like something building off the melee game with backwards compatibility with bp era.
@@haosmagnaingram6992planning to his in way. Keep brand fresh you know
Man I hope they make a proper TCG this time. I was so hyped when Battle Planet came out, I spent a stupid amount of money getting virtually all of Wave 1 and building a few decks for my friends and I to play. Then I tried keeping up with it and... there was just nothing for me to get. Newer sets were virtually impossible to find, I never saw any of the starter packs (the ones that came with a deck and 3 guys) after wave 2 and it felt like they'd just dropped the TCG idea entirely. I honestly wanted to have it be my primary TCG, but after a couple of months of seeing absolutely nothing but dust gather around the game, I just went back to yugioh and never found a reason to go back to Bakugan after that. I can get over the cost of it, but when I'm literally the only guy playing it in my whole zip code and I can't even buy the card packs in my country, I just can't justify it to myself.
Spin Master: you tried. You got decently close to it working. You now no longer have to deal with the pandemic. Local card stores are back up and running. Please don't just make this a kid's game. Please give this project depth and make it enjoyable to everyone. And for the love of God just explore the ideas you have instead of spamming out a new mechanic every year! Even yugioh stopped doing that, and they were only adding a new mechanic once every three years! Let your players breathe and play with the stuff you put out. Also: make sure your stuff is available to the people that want to get it.
Kohdok: thanks for following the journey of this brand, and let's hope it actually goes somewhere this time.
2 piece cards in even more simplified Game... With Spin tops? Yeah, sure :P
Damn you covid
Idk why everyone talks about gimmicks when that's literally the point of toys. Toys have gimmicks. It just depends on if it's a good gimmick and if it was executed well.
Battling tops obviously aren't a bad gimmick. They have been done successfully by multiple people. The concept of a card game that involves you constructing full cards based on the Bakugan you build is an AMAZING idea in my opinion. It's just a cool concept. I'm totally gonna check these out.
Edit: I honestly get the impression that spinmaster knew they couldn't produce a card game and bailed. Balancing for a card game is difficult. I'd assume continued production of a card game is even more difficult. On top of that, I'd assume that if the card game continued to be produced, the focus sooner or later would mainly become the cards and not the toys. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Spinmaster probably adheres to some kind of "Philosophy" that involves making sure their physical toys end up in the hands of children of all ages. The card game very much for older people. You can say "But children are smarter than you give them credit for" (all Bakugan CZcamsrs have said this at some point) but I'm gonna be honest. That's a dumb statement. By what margin? Your 6 year old might tell you something profound one day, then shit his pants and cry about his screen time the next day. Kids are, for the most part, not necessarily the brightest decision makers. And they also have short attention spans (especially these days). That means most kids won't want to sit and learn how to play the game. Hell, most adults don't want to either.
The circle Dexterity game your thinking is Crokinole, Canada's greatest gift to its people, therefore the world
I will never forget the days of young with Vilantor…
Hear me out. Kohdok should review Kamen Rider Toys.
Good to see ya still kicking on CZcams Kohdok! I watched you frequently in the early years of the Reboot! Honestly, It's really sad to see bakugan reboot again. Especially since there's still an active community still who actively want to play the TCG, and don't want things to start over again. I've enjoyed everything that's been released (minus the blight that is cubbo) in the entire reboot, and things only seemed to be getting better (at least to me, I loved Legends reprinting some early BP molds). So it's just so sad to see them throw everything away for... this. I'll be shocked if any of this goes well for them, and I understand that this is a brand for children. But I don't want them to fail but it could very well be the end now, especially if the show continues to cater to young children, thier demographic has probably outgrown the terrible humor that the show has.
Thanks for covering this though Kohdok, it's nice to see so many people indifferent about this because I don't see this going well at all. But I'd love to be wrong if it gives spin master the opportunity to do a 180 and go back to what works.
Man, I really wish the card game worked out... despite the game's flaws and how poorly it was managed, it was still a lot of fun. But I'm more frustrated that this reboot pretty much means my collection is pointless moving forward. The game as a whole is changing drastically with the whole beyblade-like "special attack" mechanic and I doubt it will be compatible with what came before in the Battle Planet era. If they're just going to reboot the series after losing focus every five years, I'd rather not have any part in it. I'll spend my money elsewhere in the meantime and see wether the reboot that comes after this one will manage to spark my interest.
Ufff, so allí G2 to the trash, what a waste of plastic
I was never in to the original, when it came out I was too old for it. But I've always been in to card games, and when the reboot had an actual complex TCG tied to it, I tried it out, and loved it. But the cards were constantly lagging behind where the toys were, and they eventually just gave up on the card game. That's when I gave up on Bakugan.
Speaking as someone who just wanted the toys, I admit, when so much of Year 4 were releases of G2's previous figures, I stopped snagging quite as many of them. (Though I do want to find a Leonidas, without the need to get the Arena at some point.)
*Doesn't help that for some bloody reason, the East Coast seems to get figures later than the rest of the states. It's the same with Transformers too.*
Though I can confirm with the cards. Aside from the starter decks, I think I remember seeing individual card packs once, maybe twice. Granted, I wasn't really looking for them, but when just gazing casually at my local Walmart or Target, I still didn't see them.
6:19 life decking was not in anyway the problem. It was the card design around this mechanic with a complete lack of discard pile manipulation, and flips being both dead draws and costly as recovery’s. Heck there was a greater slew of problems around bakugan’s card design that caused a number of issues while it’s core game play remained fun in spite of said issues which I think is more of a testament to the quality of how bakugan played which is the opposite of your stance.
Hyper Juken is good at demonstrating the issue as having been one in card design and not inherent to the mechanics, as that uses a life decking system but unlike bakugan the card design is well thought out around its mechanics.
addressing why people tend to fall off the dexterity challenge in bakugan, i personally think it's a case of poor implementation? the card game is alright as a card game, the dexterity challenge is honestly stellar as a dexterity game, but the combination is less than the sum of its parts. if you had a bakugan-like "roll a ball onto magnetic tiles, and those tiles have some point value attributed to which one you get it to stop on" that could blow up like pogs on its own. but when you add in a card game and try and bring it to a higher strategy game, it devalues the fun of getting good at the dexterity challenge. meanwhile card games can be successful if they offer deep and interesting strategy, but breaking the pace of a traditional tcg by adding the dexterity challenge devalues the skill of strategy. it's like mixing dutch chocolate and filet mignon - they're both great, but they don't belong on a fork together.
I was watching your Battle Brawlers reviews with the Vilantor memes when I was nine. I didn't actually know how they originated until now! That's an incredible nostalgia kick.
What I like about the new Bakugan is the new Dan looks similar to a mix of the original and Battle Planet versions
I miss OG Bakugan :(
Will never back
Love your stuff Kohdok. If you're ever in Texas lmk and I'll make you some miniatures
I’ve been waiting for more bakugan from you
I still don't think the life-decking element of the (old) reboot's TCG was an inherent flaw with the game - just the way they specifically designed and implemented flip cards since nothing else interacted with the core mechanic.
Because flips only triggered when milled as damage, and all the good ones worth running also had an energy cost in addition to it's already very specific play-condition; they weren't just dead draws, but by leaving the deck, actively lowered your odds at reducing incoming damage.
Had they been better integrated into the game; flips would immediately trigger when flipped as damage, or could be played from hand for cost.
However, I think a better implementation of the mechanic altogether would have been something like the "shield trigger"/"security" approach from games like Kaijudo/Digimon - where instead of having a dedicated type of card for the "flip" mechanic... Action, Hero, Evo, and later Gear, Geogan cards could have a "Flip" keyword that either activated the card's effect when flipped, or had some secondary effects... we kind of saw this with Flip-Heroes and the Armor stat on some Baku-Gear, but something like that should have been the approach from the beginning.
Even though finding them in stores initially was a bit of a pain (and fortunately I wasn't paying too much attention when too many Cubbo were in stock) and the show wasn't my cup of tea (I did find the minisodes of the Bakugan chilling with each other super cute though!), Battle Planet was pretty fun to see being discussed and collecting a bit! I already miss it but I'm excited to see what's next in store for Bakugan.
Top hat fits you
i wish they picked up the tcg again
Man honestly I'm excited. Especially for the bind system thing
Here's the deal with all these toy franchises - they need a good show first and foremost (by good show, I mean one that features characters who are at least mid-teens, and has decent graphics).
After that, they need to make the toys available to their core audience
And the toys should have at least some structure for gameplay.
Bakugan worked because of the above, they failed to deliver the latter with the reboot. Beyblade is evergreen because every series has satisfied the above. Its just a thing every toy series should have prepared before even getting started. (unless you're Huntik, then you're just unlucky).
OH no bakigan reboot...timing is impeccable.
buys some...plays with daughters...manical laugh...
I make up my mind after watching just five or six episodes of any TV show, and I feel like that's enough.
Kohdok saying he watched 20 episodes is impressive.
Great break-down, as always! Definitely not liking the new card shape either...
The round, shuffleboard-like game you're thinking of is called "crokinole".
I think Bakugans best bet now is to focus on the physical aspect. More ways to roll, deploy, jump, etc. Thats the main appeal of the franchise. Clearly they cannot innovate or manage a card game, so innovate on the toys. Make them varied and interesting. I think this beyblade thing and the swapping of halves is a good start, hopefully they find a way to introduce ultras again. There is a way to make this work if they want it. As long as they keep far away from the mech suits again they have a chance.
Good point, lets see how develop
Imagine they did mech suits again, but were designed like the Mobile assaults where they fit the Bakugan inside and had functionality of Bakunano where you push a Button to open it up.
I love Final Faction. My kid has almost everything, they make great rewards for chores and such
Thanks for the video!
Honestly I really feel like Bakugan should stop making a physical card game; they should really try to focus their efforts on making a videogame series and also releasing the physical Bakugan as toys. I remember the original Bakugan Battle Brawlers game on the PS3 was a game I played a whole bunch of times and loved it. I had a lot more fun with that than the physical products personally.
They are a toy company first. They design toys. Games are a secondary product for Hasbro.
@@digitalclown2008the thing is that Bakugan could work as a toys to life video game hybrid model, specially if the cards were like Amiibo cards
Can't trust Spin Master to handle a TCG game ever again after this
Imagine if, just like Duel Masters, Takara Tomy take over the continual production of the Battle planet card game and make a better set and rule revision for the game? 🤣
@@bryanmerel one can only dream
Never, they dont know to handle a TCG, better they snug down with Paw Patrol
@@bryanmerel nahhh, that Will never happen, cause both companies are rivals
@@RolandTemplar o.o
Uh... Takara Tomy actually is the distributor of Bakugan Battle planet in Japan... If i weren't mistaken. 🤔
I disagree I don’t think Bakugan‘s initial problem with them having a higher a higher than mighty attitude, it’s more of the fact they were iffy and not taking the plunge into TCG space completely. It’s less “ we are spin master we will sit the bar “ and more “ we are spin master we can take care of contacting stores after the money starts pumping” . Although it reeks of a lack in confidence in the idea of turning it into a full TCG‘s
For me, the TCG aspect was timed, they never really wanted to make competitive game
Season 2 of the reboot show gets really really good tbh
It's weird really because I think the game itself could have been handled pretty easely. I remember making a version of the old ps2 bakugan with my cousins inspired in the same rules using three dices as the minigame to determine how much Dp you would earn. It was a pretty fun time but for some reason the developers of this franchise have it hard to determine on which direction to take the game.
Can be fin, but not for being a Magic the gathering
I’ve been trying to get into Bakugon and it sounds like the perfect time since there’s going to be a new reboot but some of these changes seem kinda weird and pretty unnecessary, guess we’ll see!
Will suck
Street dates/release dates are a myth :p
Nexomon extintion is WAY better then any of the latest pokemon games. Every time I'm playing pokemon, I wish I was playing any of the other games in the genre, specially temtem, but also nexomon.
Gunna be strange not seeing Dan Kuzo for once
I'm pissed bc I could never find the cards which is one of the main game
I seen too much of the toys and not enough card products.
Maybe they're just trying to push the more casual quick play game.
Or... Just... Products.
Yeah, an excuse to sell more toys
It doesn't use cards
Most of this is gen one not bakugon planet
Hey Pal thanks for the info. My theory is Spin Máster just give Up with the TCG and Japan (Bakugan was nevera an hit at that country anyway), so they Will pursue chinese money, cause i noticed the leaks are from bili bili, the chinese CZcams, also Spin tops are super popular in China
wait till kohdok discovers tokusatsu and how often they refresh
Making your brand to be like beyblade in the same year that beyblade is gonna announce its next generation will still being talked about because of how well received burst was...sure
Bakugan...what goes around comes...BACK!!!........
The game was better as a card game and with the huge rise of card games recently it would be nice if they went back to that cause there is market for it and clearly people like card games!
Hey Kohdok! Can you do a follow up Zoids video and also talk about how Hasbro completely botched the US release of Zoids Wild?
20 episodes? Jesus dude I gave it like 5 before dropping it. It's kind of insane to me how much better of a hook the original created than Battle Planet.
Yeah, and kinda bad voice acting
i gave it 5 episodes as well , found it way too childish specially when the OG was pretty dark sometimes so hope G3 will be better . Pokemon Horizons , Beyblade X and Bakugan Gen 3 seems like most older franchises are all doing something new this year. Wonder when will Bdaman and Medabots also return.
@@symphonixblades yeah, the brawlers design and urban Styles is pretty interesting, algo they are teenagers
Being a Bakugan collector is a nightmare.
Yeah, When they G2 Bakugan introduced a few Nanogans there was a FTK Combo with Darkfire Defense where it deals 99 Damage right off the bat. G3 might be another failure where we will see another hiatus for who know how long it will be gone for in the first place. Yeah Toys R Us went extinct before G2 came out. Spin Master needs to hire better people when Bakugan G4 comes out to fix the issues. Bakugan Pro or known as The Bakugan TCG was great it just needed the right people behind the wheel.
Wait! A new Bakugan now Bakublade so is real or bootleg?
I have no strong feelings about Bakugan. I keep crossing my fingers for videos about One Piece or Battle Spirits Saga or any of the seemingly dozens of games being released this season but it's all for nought apparently.
Then you haven't been paying attention.
@@Kohdok Attention to what? The occasional references to wanting to make videos about 'em over the last 4 or 5 months but having excuses and never actually doing anything?
@@hobobeard I did make a Battle Spirits video.
I spent way to much money on that ball game :P
When you like nexomon :(
Nexomon is awesome
I don't love the designs of the top Bakugan, or the new logo - but between distribution issues and balancing issues refreshing Bakugan as a game is not the worst plan at this point. The toys themselves have always been the biggest draw for me and making it simpler and more accessible is honestly a great plan. It's a shame for those who love the TCG but that side of Bakugan has not been very sustainable for Spin Master.
This is starting to remind me of F*’/ing Redaki! What with the not obeying TCG rules and being overly confident
power rangers does not reboot. some of them take place outside the main universe but all are coonnected. BeastMorphers and Dino Fury the most recent seasons are both in the main universe started by mighty morphin all those years ago.
Beyblade gen x? I would like to know thought it.
Looks like something that's bound to be dead on release sadly.
it's really unfortunate that each year we've had unreleased waves of bakugan, only for them to cancel halfway of wave 2 this year just to make some bayblade knock offs, my hope for this series is declining fast.
I have a bad feeling for new Bakugan
While I do agree that the show isn't the best, I do feel like it got better with each season.
They really should keep giving out support without the show's help because I feel like this is a great game and it doesn't make sense to flat out replace it with a supposedly Beyblade ripoff. If Yugioh and Magic the Gathering can do it, Bakugan can do it too.
I wonder when Spinmaster would actually consider making Leonidas the main Bakugan. Like i love dragonoid with all my heart but he is kind of overrated now imo
That new card kinda look like a huge red flag
Bakugan HAD a reboot, it too is now dead.
Edit: another one?
oh no! he forgot a button... literally unwatchable
I am greatly concerned that this reboot will kill the franchise…again.
Bakulame......anyone who will still collect the new version should be ashamed of themselves
I can't wait for the Beyblade Bakugan
Bakublade