The Top 10 BIGGEST Juiced Ball Frauds
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2019 saw an unprecedented amount of homers hit. The previous record set only 2 years earlier was completely shattered. The reason given for this boom was that the ball had less drag this year, or in short, was "juiced." This casued the difference in the home run explosion from 2017-2019 to the steroid era was the rise of the middle class of home run hitters. We saw players who had previous career highs in the 10s hitting over 30. Luckily, we have the power of Statcast data to sort through the glut of home run hitters and see who was getting the most out of the "juiced ball."
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How does Pete Alonso not make this list? He'll never sniff 53 homers again. He broke a record that was fairly gained in 2017. Very suspicious. It's almost as if you're a Mets fan.
@@anticensorshipsociety1063 Thats exactly why I used objective data to make the list
I thought Renato Nunez would be on this list. He hit 31 homers that season, which accounted for 55% of his career homeruns
Nunez was actually 50th out of 80 players. While it is true he never truly reached his power potential, most of that was due to swing and miss issues and not a lack of what we in the business refer to as oomph. He actually posted a respectable Barrel Rate and his WOBA difference actually ranked better than Josh Donaldson and Manny Machado's.
@@nomorefielders’what we in the business’ bro what an absolutely cringey thing to say. U make shitty youtube videos man stop talkin like ur Tim Kurkjian or even Jomboy
How many years in the league. Have to include that bro
@@Adam_Ella Do I tho
Wish the cutoff wasn’t at 25, could’ve used an analysis of Derek Dietrich’s bizarre memory hold time with the Reds in ‘19.
nah actually what was that😭😭😭😭genuinely the most random thing of all time
bro had 19 home runs by like may
I feel like he legitimately crushed those tho. He just couldn’t sustain that quality of contact
Dietrich was sending those balls to outer space though lol
And like 14 of them were against Pittsburgh lol. What a fun time.
2019 was the year of the juiced baseball, but 2024 is the year of the juiced uniform. Fans will be seeing a lot of flying balls again this year, just a different kind.
Juiced uniform lol
Kudos
Lmaooo
Thanks for the Eddie Murray name drop. His 500 HRs despite never hitting more than 33 HRs in a season is one of my favourite stat-accumulation baseball statistic.
Steady Eddie
TBF 33 hrs is still a good amount
I know it wasn’t 2019 but Jacoby Ellsbury hitting 32 HRs in 2011 will forever blow my mind when he only had one other season of 10+ home runs
Gleybor Torres hit 39 homers in 2019. Pete Alonso hit 53 as a rookie. I'm from NYC so I'm using these examples that I watched for the entire season.
@@veritasinvicta8128I mean Pete Alonso still rakes lol, he had 46 in 2033 and 40 in 2022
@@yungbisharp No doubt. But he wouldn't have broken a record.
Big Mets fan and I’d have to say Jeff McNeil. As elite as he can be in most aspects of his game, he had no right hitting 23 in 2019 😂
He hit 23 because in the second half he tried a more power eccentric approach compared to a batting average one
Big agree ... Mcneil is NOT a power hitter
I’m a diehard Met/Mcneil fan and his 2019 slugging % and home runs will never be replicated by him lol the 2019 balls was absolutely juiced and McNeil benefited no doubt. However his batting avg in the second half was in the .270s which dropped his all star break .350ish down to .319 at the end of the year.
Where were Paul DeJong and Renato Nunez on this list? They both out-homered Ozuna that year 😂
DeJong Mustard and Nunez were 26th and 50th respectfully out of 80 players. DeJong actually has hit similar ISO numbers in previous seasons which gave him a boost there, even if his best exit velos rated as (and all due respect to Mr. Mustard here) "piss poor"
@@nomorefielders Nunez being in the lower half makes me happy for some reason
As an Orioles fan, I still have bad memories of 2019 Gleyber Torres, lol!
Victor Robles hit 17 HR's in 617 PA's in 2019, and he's hit 11 HR's in 1,091 PA's since then.
2019 baseball savant rankings: EV (1st percentile), Hard Hit % (4th percentile), xSLG (10th percentile) xwOBA (12th percentile.
I was actually thinking Robles when I thought of HR frauds lol
Robles is a HUGE Fraud and just bad player lol
I love how his Wikipedia page just constantly reiterates he has bottom 1% exit velo lol
@@Karmy. Lmao hahahaa
I was surprised to see Blackmon on this list, mostly because of how good he was from 2016-2018. I think he's another one of the smarter players who's adjusted his style as he ages. Since he hits leadoff, he knows he doesn't need to hunt homers, he just has to get on base, and his OBP was .363 last year
mark cahna with 30 homers was wild
Super crazy
True, but it is worth noting that Canha’s career maxEV is 114.2mph (in his 2015 rookie year), and his barrel rates in 2018 and 2019 were nearly identical.
There should be a part 2 for those under 25 HRs in that year
Seconded.
Atuve is an interesting choice since he once again hit 31 HRs in 2021, 28 in 2022, and was on pace for 30 in 2023 if not for the injuries. Yuli on the other hand 100% had a season for the ages in 2019.
altuve wasn't an interesting choice it makes sense. before 2019 he had a contact heavy approach but with the knowledge that the balls were juiced he decided to switch it up to battle age. since 2019 he's been around 30 every year as a result. as stated in the video he's the only juiced ball merchant that retained his pop.
He doesn’t like the Astros
Amongst the sub-25 hr guys from 2019, Christian Vazquez is one who stands out to me with 22. Dude has little to no power for the rest of his career
Christian Vazquez is definitely a beneficiary of this season, and I’m pretty surprised to not see Danny Santana here
Yeah dude went from about 5 hr to 23
I was 100% sure Kole Calhoun, Roberto Perez and Hunter Dozier would have made this.
Even Jonathon Villar and Freddy Galvis i would have thought over Marte and Altuve.
Villar and Galvis barely missed the cutoff, I'm thinking I should've lowered the cutoff to 24 to get their names in the data set. But I will tell you Kole Calhoun placed 18th out of 80 players so he was close to making the list. What saved him was that his barrel rate was actually a respectable 11.2%, but his best exit velos ranked towards the bottom.
@@nomorefielders this feels like it took some time to make. I tip my nonexistent hat to you.
Calhoun did hit 26 in 2015. He always had pop. Just a lot of swing and miss in his game
@@jessegarcia2064 True. But you cannot defend Roberto Perez. 😆 24 is bonkers for him. Dudes next highest total is 8.
@@zackaryhaselius2226 definitely, could've made this list a whole lot longer
As a astros fan I have no god dam clue how Yuli hit 31 even with the juiced ball. It looked like he was just poking at it and next thing you know it's over the wall.
I thought Mitch Garver would be on this list, his 31 home run season in 93 games was truly random
Loved the video, but I mostly want to say that you are easily one of the CZcamsrs I most look forward to releasing a new one! Can't wait until the next!
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I'll admit, I was surprised not to see Daniel Vogelbach here, what with his 30 home runs from that season being a total he hasn't come particularly close to duplicating before or since, be it with my Mariners or elsewhere. :/
30 would still probably be a somewhat significant outlier, but the playing time just isn't there to really know for sure. The only other time he came within 100 plate appearances of 2019 he hit 18, which is probably somewhere in the 20-22 range if you extrapolate it out the rest of the way. So it's reasonable to assume that would be his regular output. But there's no way to be certain without actually seeing 550 reps every year.
Edit: I'm a dumbass, but I think I was able to figure out how to look up a couple of the metrics used in this? If I did them correctly, barring a major dropoff after 10, they didn't seem all that close to top-10 material. I am curious to know where he ranked now though, since nothing seemed *excessively* outta line (but again, actively futzing with data myself is vanishingly rare, so I might be doing it completely wrong). 🤔
13:22 rare Logan Webb overhand clip
Aaaand it was an oppo taco so I guess that shows why it’s rare lol.
the reason the cubs have such an easier time hitting homers is because of their field. the length of the outfield is similar to a high school field. the maximum point at center field is a maximum of 400 feet and a foot or two less of you land it in the basket. (from a cubs fan btw)
3rd grade analyst my ass, ya nerd, and we live for this stuff. Nicely done.
It's a shame the cutoff was 25 homers because Christian Vazquez would fit so well on this list. Aside from 2020, 2019 was his only season with an OPS over .750. His 23 home runs is his only season with double digit homers.
Once I get some time, I’ll redo the data with the cutoff at 20 and share the results on a community post/Twitter
This video is really well made. Reminds me of Foolish Baseball a little bit
Bro I have to say.. Bravo!!! This is the first video of yours that ive seen, and its the best analytics work ive seen while not boring people to death and having some humor... I insta subbed to your channel...
As a Roto Fantasy Baseball guy in a very competitive league the last 8 years I can 1000 percent back you up on the frauds of this list... I counted 7 of them that werent really ever power hitters besides this... Great work man
such an underrated channel, keep up the hard work brother
Thank you
kenan thompson catching a stray in a baseball video is egregious 😭😭🤣🤣
Great work as always sir!
Thank you!
Great video as always. You are legitimately such a good creator who needs more appreciation
As a Yankees fan I knew Gleyber would be on this list but it was funny seeing Kepler on here. I remember twitter was comparing Kepler to Aaron Judge 😂
I'd be interested in seeing the full dataset if you're open to releasing it. It would be really fun to skim through and see where specific players fall on this list
I’m planning on making a Patreon at the end of the season. One of the tiers is gonna be having access to some of my assets (the batting race chart from the 1910 batting title video, the duos charts from the duos video) so look for all of that to be accessible in the next year.
My favorite part of the vid was the Kenan SNL dig & comparison! All jokes (not really) aside, great work on the vid! As a fellow musician and baseball fan, congrats on an awesome YT channel. This vid just popped into my feed, and I'll now watch every one you put out there! ✌
Appreciate it! Glad to have someone like you on board.
Some other notable merchants I could think of:
Trey Mancini
Kole Calhoun
Renato Nunez
Some guys that would’ve been on the list I think, if the requirements were lower:
Jonathan Villar
Ramon Laureano
Mr. Millennial Mendoza, Roberto Perez
I'll give you one of those players: Trey Mancini ranked 21st out of 80 players. Everything checked out as average in the data set besides WOBA difference (probably a sympton of playing in Camden Yards pre moving the left field wall back).
2019 was the most fun summer of my life. The Bomba Squad and my FOGO king will forever hold the key to my heart.
McNeil was an example of this too. He totally fell for the homer buff a bit after this season. Great video
Bregman I honestly am not too surprised with in regards to him having a good 2019 power-wise. The prior year he hit 31 homeruns, so it didn't seem that out of the ordinary that he might have a season where he really popped off and got over 40. Just so happened it coincided with the juiced ball year, so we can't be sure how much was him just hitting his 99th percentile mark power-wise and how much was the ball helping him out a little.
I remember watching Brett Gardner hit an opposite field home run at Camden Yards, that was when I knew there was something weird going on
To be fair, that was also the 2019 Orioles.
I’d argue that his 2019 had more to do with the phenomenon known as “Odd Year Marte” 🙂
I'm curious to know about Rendon's 2019 since it was a contract year that has since resulted in Anthony Rendon "playing for" the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
Anthony Rendon would've been the first player covered had I done the top 20. His best exit velos were very mediocre and yeah the last few seasons have definitely skewed his ISO difference.
MLB journeyman Danny Burgers (Vogelbach) hit 30 of his career 80 home runs (in 8 MLB seasons) and made the All-Star team for Seattle that year.
As a Pirate fan I was surprised to not see Josh Bell on the list, 37 homers that year with 12 the year before and 27 being his high since.
Man I thought he was up next, got a jersey and everything lol
As someone who saw a Yuli Gurriel grand slam live in July 2019, it suddenly makes a LOT more sense
This was before the juiced ball era but what happened to torres also happened to johnny Damon and Curtis granderson when they joined the Yankees
"my third grade knowledge of advanced analytics" haha i feel you there....man i remember picking up Danny Santana on a fantasy league and laughing every time he kept homering, my friend who's league it was was so annoyed
I would say anthony rendon but he's played so little since 2019 nobody really knows.
He's number 20 out of 80, so wouldv'e been the first player I covered had I decided to do the top 20 biggest frauds.
I will say about Gleyber - how much was him being a juiced ball merchant vs him being a rebuilding Orioles merchant?
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Me too. My captain
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im surprised u didn't have EUGENIO
SUAREZ he hit 49 his next highest was only 34
If he would’ve had 50 it would be this generations version of Brandy Anderson
Suarez was a player I kept my eye on while inputting data and he actually placed 23rd out of 80 so he was defintely in the juiced ball camp there. His barrel rate was actually spectacular, but he got some of the biggest fly ball luck in the Great American Small Park
i dont think so he had 104 RBIs the year before it was really only the power that went up in 2019@@Supadupasebas
I love this idea! I have one critique though, this list doesn’t account for pull flyball hitters. Guys like Isaac Paredes and Marcus Semien routinely homer a lot despite relatively low barrel and hard hit rates because they can pull flyballs. I’m not sure what the solution is, admittedly, but other than that this is a great video.
I'm just glad my talking point for Gleyber Torres made the video
You are my number 1 source for Yankees knowledge
New to baseball here but couldn’t you average each hr distance (normalized for stadium) across each year for players then find the biggest difference? Just from the clips in the video it seems like the home run players (acuna judge etc) their hr are going into the 2nd / 3rd stories while the “frauds” are barely going over the fence with the juiced balls
Kinda surprised that Bellinger wasn't on the list. His two far and above best seasons were juiced ball seasons. He finally started figure it out in 2023 but still a far cry from '17 and '19.
8:23 - I'm surprised WRC correlated better for runs scored than did WRC+.
Awesome video! Do you think that Cody bellinger’s mvp season could have been an outlier due to his sharp decline, and his more contact approach in 2023
3:40 Cricket Spotted ‼️‼️‼️. No More Fielders video on Benny Howell when?
Holy crap I forgot that Danny Santana was actually good for one season
What about pull rate? I could see xwoba -woba on fly balls sussing that out a bit but it seems like an important factor. Love the video though! You've gained a subscriber.
This list makes a lot of sense but I would’ve expected Danny Santana and Renato Nunez to be on this list.
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Even as a first year baseball watcher in 2019 I was still thinking the season had to be an anomaly
I lowkey thought Rendon and Garvey would make this list cuz Rendon has been ass with the Angels and Garver had been a backup pretty much ever since his strangely successful 2019 baseball.
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Im really surprised Eugenio Suarez isn’t on this list. Dude went from a borderline 30 to a borderline 50 homer guy
1:02 its "number of homers" not "amount"
The rule is if its countable, we say "number"
So its "number of hamburgers" and "amount of food"
Same with "less" and "fewer".
Less is to amount as fewer is to number
Any word on Edwin Rios. At one point in time he had the highest AB to HR ratio of all time
Right on time for lunch 🫡
McNeil would be an interesting one to look at. Went from hitting 23 bombs in 2019, to winning the batting title in 2022 with 9 homers
Also I know the requirement was 25 homers but still
Little surprised Jeff McNeil wasn’t on here. I know he only hit 25 but that’s way more than he’s ever hit since.
Jeff actually hit only 23, hence missing the cutoff
@@nomorefielders damn. I’m disappointed in myself as a Mets fan.
Cool video bro 👍
10:10 is when he starts talking about the list btw
Congrats on the sponsorship
would love to know where the rest of the bomba squad ranks on this list, great video, thanks
I'll give you one. Mitch Garver ranked 44 out of 80, which I would consider to be another respectable season. His barrel rates and average exit velocities that year were insane.
@@nomorefielders he was a big outlier for sure. Thanks
The 2022 Mets were a blast, using Cahna and Escobar as our middle of the order hitters after big meat Pete as our resident slugger…
How did you gather all that data?
Andrelton Simmons for sure, Kole Calhoun, and Matt Chapman
13:59 respect the commish
I’m happy that my Bomba Squad wasn’t too represented on this list. That was such a fun season of Minnesota baseball, even if it ended in (what else?) a sweep in the ALDS to the fucking Yankees. Welcome to the Cities, Rocco!
Although Eduardo Escobar was a Twin, wouldn’t you know it he got traded to the D-backs in 2018. So he was almost another one.
Another fun bit about Escobar: in 2018 he attributed his power to eating “a lot of Fogo de Chão.” H
How close were Eloy Jimenez and Miguel snap to making the list?
Love this vid. Doin numbers too!
Dude I know! Gonna be an awesome season.
I think Robert Perez should be on here, his 2019 was so different than any other year of his career.
Hunter Dozier is another player that should be on this list (hit 25 Home Runs that season and has fallen off ever since)
Gleyber definitely benefited from the juiced balls but I feel like he’s started to figure it out a lot since then. I truly think once his career is done 2020/2021 will looks more like outliers than 2019
Don't feel too bad for Gleyber anymore. He figured out his game. Last year he put up a really good batting average by his standards and he was one of the better hitters in the league with 2 strikes. I think he's gonna have one hell of a season in '24
It would be interesting to measure the quality of the pitcher these frauds hit their homers on.
In a league where maybe 2/3 of the teams aren’t trying particularly hard to build good teams it could make a big difference
The double pause took me out 😂
Gardy was basically done with his career at that point. Dude took advantage of what he saw.
Ik he didn’t hit 25 homers, but gio urshela had to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the juiced ball
Bregman hitting 40 in 2019 is so wild...
I am stunned that Kepler was only #8. I knew he’d be here but I figured he’d be top three.
Alex Bregman all the way! It took a few full seasons for people (many Astros fans) to come to terms with the fact he wasn't that guy.
Altuve is also a Crawford Box merchant
“Who was the biggest juiced ball fraud of 2019”
Me standing up and yelling Franmil Reyes repeatedly at my laptop like it owes me money
However it turns out he was just a fraud not a juiced ball fraud
I don’t trust offensive stats from 2019, that season was definitely an outlier
Carlos Santana was a guy that was definitely helped by the juiced ball. I think he had 34 homers that year.
Why do you have Yordan in the thumbnail when he's a line drive hitter, not a home run hitter?
Danny Santana? Hit 28 home runs that’s season and 47 in his career.