What Happens if you battle the LAST Gym FIRST in Pokemon Scarlet & Violet?
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Typically Pokemon games have you battle the gyms in a set order, usually starting with the easiest and ending with the hardest. In Pokemon Scarlet and Violet though, it's an open world Pokemon game that lets you battle any gym in any order you want. There is no level scaling, so there is a suggested route still with Grusha having the highest level Pokemon and also being the hardest gym battle in Scarlet and Violet. Today we'll try to beat the last gym first and see how quickly we can do it!
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Bruh
It’s actually Skele-“dirge”, not Skele-“ridge” as you kept pronouncing it. Also, when you say highest level in the game, do you just mean among the gym leaders? Cuz i fought a team star boss that has pokemon over 50
Thanks for this video.
Personnally in terms of roads you think this order have no senses.
And my order iiiiis not the best but i had fun. If you're interested :
1 : Rock type Titan
2 : Steel type Titan
3 : Normal type Gym (the best)
4 : Ground type Titan
5 : Dragon type Titan (without the swim capacity 😎, and in legit way)
6 : Water type Gym
7 : Flying type Titan
8 : Ice type Gym
9 : Ghost type Gym
10 : Bug type Gym
11 : Grass type Gym
12 : Electric type Gym
13 : Psychic type Gym
14 : Team Star Dark
15 : Team Star Fight
16 : Team Star Poison
17 : Team Star Fire
18 : Team Star Fairy
XD And finally the Team Star was a good surprise for me. In the best Team for me with First Team Plasma and the Team Flare (yeah).
i see a flaw with the title since most of the game can be done in any order there isn't an assigned first -eighth order though i would say try doing the titans as many as possible first a person can literally force there way to most of the map as long as its on land and sure each place has a number given to them notice each number is equal to each type i did the weaker levels of team star last i had the level advantage by then
Here’s the crazy part: Nemona’s team scales with your badges. This means the game can do scaling, but for some reason, they decided it wasn’t worth it for the gyms.
It's not the same. Nemona is one NPC, while there are 8 gym leaders that would need a couple different teams. It would've been great if they scaled, that would give the game so much replayability.
@@genomaru But I thought every Gym battle have an average of 3 Pokemons?
@@genomaru Doing the gym leaders would only require 64 teams. That’s not a lot in the context of Pokémon. For years, Pokémon games would have hundreds of available trainer battles over the course of a game. Also, after badge 5, you likely could solidify the move sets and just level scale the last three.
all the gym leader scaling teams could
fit in a .txt file that doesnt weight more than 1mb, they didnt program them because they didnt have time/didnt want to. just like all the technical issues that were never solved before launch
it could be done in a couple hours easily. btw scaling shop items but not scaling gym levels... yikes
@@ffornesp shop items have always been scaled so it's reused code
I WISHED we got gym scaling, I was so EXCITED to have a 8th gym leader being the bug type but UNFORTUNATELY
It’s kind of funny how people praise this game for being open world and not linear when really it’s no different from GSC when you can just choose to do Gyms out of order but there is objectively the same linear gym curve progression that existed in every game and not really any change to the formula from 1999
Play Ultra/Sun/Moon. Ya boy Guzma has that drip.
@@Wynneception I would say the open world concept makes SV a lot different than GSC. Not being able to trace an order to beat the gym leaders (assuming playing blind) and the options available because of the open world concept makes gameplay way more unpredictable and fun. They also made Pryce, Jasmine and Chuck similar levels for options, but it was clear that the game was pushing you to fight Chuck first. Imo the hints were not as obvious in SV
*I had made an elite four-styled team on smogon to battle against friends and...i made the first member use bug type, and this is the team i used, of course with team preview off and the added use of levels to keep some level up moves at bay*
*there was no dynamaxing and stuff used, so hopefully you can see what i was trying to pull here*
*---*
Orbeetle (F) @ Red Card
Ability: Frisk
Level: 65
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sticky Web
- Hypnosis
- Reflect
- Psyshock
Centiskorch (M) @ Charti Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
Level: 65
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Fire Lash
- Leech Life
- Will-O-Wisp
Durant (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Swarm
Level: 65
EVs: 248 Atk / 12 SpD / 248 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Stomping Tantrum
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor
Golisopod (F) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Emergency Exit
Level: 65
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- First Impression
- Aqua Jet
- Sucker Punch
- Drill Run
Galvantula (F) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Compound Eyes
Level: 65
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bug Buzz
- Volt Switch
- Thunder
- Giga Drain
@@Mikiiiiiiiiiip a lvl 47 lead was a pretty good hint that Grusha wasn't supposed to hand me my 3rd badge
I didn't even realize Grusha was meant to be the last gym leader. For some reason I thought it was Tulip.
Between the difficulty of getting to Tulip's gym and how they usually made ice gyms your 6th or 7th gym in previous games, I had the same assumption
I thought it was as well because Grushas Gym was literally right next to the 6th gym leaders gym
Same as well.
since tulip's gym was in southern paldea i thought it was the 3rd gym, i walk long and hard to get there only to get annihilated by her
I think my last Gym was either Tulip or that Rap person.
The level scaling in this game is just insane, like the first gym leader has almost level 50 pokemon dude
Worse than HGSS ong
I’m just glad they gave the last gym leader Katy level 14 and 15 Pokémon to make up for her insane strategies, it’d be way too OP if she had high level Pokémon
Imagine if a Pokémon game were actually like that though. Like instead of low levels like anything below 20, the very first Gym Leader you face has level 50 and last Gym has all level 100 Pokémon. Only way to get up to level 50 is either you can catch Pokémon in the wild up until that level or just raid grind or grind some other way.
I did the 7th gym like 4th and I love how the game says "you shouldnt have a problem with the rest of the gyms now" :D
I realized immediately that taking on the Titans first gives you all the upgrades to your ride Pokemon, and accidently wandered into grushas gym as my second badge, but all my Pokemon were in the low 40s at that point after facing the Titans so it worked out somewhat
I think the speech Grusha gives implies they canonically are meant to be a tough gym leader you unintentionally face a little too early as a consequence for natural exploration either after completing the ghost gym cause your already at the mountain top, or after Ionos gym if you just kept going until finding another gym from there you'd find Grusha.
Doesn't seem likely. The original Japanese description explicitly says he's the strongest Gym Leader. The translation just omitted that detail for whatever reason, that's all there is to it.
@@preyingshark4878 how is what you said incompatible with what I said?
I didn't say they weren't the canonically strangest. I said they were by design meant to be challenged too early by the player. They wanted the player to accidentally do the natural thing and work the map clockwise or counter clockwise and run into Grusha when they were under leveled.
I think they wanted you (if you chose to go east cause of Arvin initially) reach the summit after facing Iona, be told its dangerous and were not ready by Grushas speech, lose, leave, and come back later when we are more ready after beating all the other gym leaders.
@@danieldishon688 This is exactly what I did. Ended up barely clutching with my extremely overleveled but very disobedient vaporeon lmao.
I did Grushas gym pretty early and only had to use 2 poke,on to beat him, so yeah he was pretty easy for me.
I unironically got so lost after being Katy that I ended up somehow facing Tulip second
Dude there’s markers all over the map💀
@@Zarb111 yes but it took me like 3 hours to realize
Leon, that you?
@@resurrekt7114 Bruh
ooof
I actually did this on my first playthrough, doing Grusha first. I honestly believe it was the right call for the best experience for me. The key difference between what you did and what I did is that I took my time getting there, exploring the world and catching Pokemon and leveling up my team so that I didn't need to do any grinding once I reached Grusha. The slow speed of unupgraded Koraidon hardly matters when I was spending a lot of time just walking and catching Pokemon anyways. I was still under-leveled, but it was a wonderful puzzle to figure out how I could beat him with the tools at my disposal and any newly-caught Pokemon prone to disobedience. The Fighting-type star camp and the Ghost-type leader were still challenging given that I was still under-leveled for them, but everything after that was just a victory lap. But honestly, most of those early to mid-game gym leaders and star camps only had 2-3 Pokemon anyways and were never going to be a serious problem. I had much more enjoyment taking on a handful of truly challenging and over-leveled opponents.
Totally agree. I did Alfornada first, and fought most of the “late-game” battles while being severely underleveled. Ultimately, even if level scaling would’ve been cool, I too had way more fun using competitive strats in the main story. People hate on spidops, but a bulky trap setter is super useful when you play like this
Hell I fought him third
Same, I kept on going out of my way to fight trainers above my weight class for the challenge, and it was tons of fun
i did this for the titans. Went to the desert and saw the rolling Iron Treads without knowing it was a titan. I encountered it with my level 20 Floragato and took a huge L. But i continued trying and eventually beat it
I did the same 😭 my sister and I were laughing at the climax of “now pokemon up to level 25 will listen to you”….coming from the last gym leader in the game
Take a shot everytime PapaSea says Skeleridge instead of Skeledirge.
Thank you that bothered me so much and I have no clue why, usually I’m not bothered by Pokémon names being said differently but it threw me off so much I thought he was gonna go into a sponsor about a certain wallet
Skeleridge is a ghost/ground type, or at least, sounds like it. Skele -> skeleton (relates to ghosts) and -dirge -> a mournful song (this is also technically ghost-related, but fire whatever).
Somehow I always call it skeledRIge instead of skeledirge
I think it’s actually kinda neat how the game is able to run cutscenes without being in a particular map. And it’s not like the gym interiors are always the same. And the team star bases, too, are just outside. It’s really cool.
This isn’t new technology other comparable games have done this for years. Gamefreak shouldn’t be praised for being able to do things like run cutscenes in engine
@@Wynneception I’m well aware of that fact. It’s just nice that they’re finally doing it.
@@MagusAgrippa8 i thought you were being sarcastic... this game is a complete downgrade from earlier games in terms of the content of the cities, their design and lore attached to them, a total letdown... you can only enter 3 buildings at most on each city... the others are just a pop up menu... smh
@@imblackmagic1209 My comment was referring to the actual cutscenes changing location depending on the order you visit them. Not so much the status of the towns and the like. I completely agree with you. But I still think it’s worth mentioning things they got right. Game Freak has this annoying habit of taking two steps forward in some aspects and three steps backwards in others. If we want them to actually learn anything, we’ve got to be vocal about what worked just as much as what didn’t work.
@@Wynneception fr its like people who praise the new Pokemon have only Played pokemon their enitre life
We found him guys, PaPaSea is the guy from the official artwork of the trainer with the Fuecoco challenging Grusha
But the trainer was wearing the Violet uniform.
@@JJKSauce that would mean I was the one in the artwork, I played Violet and challange Grusha first
@@jean-pierrebenzenique I like to imagine that artwork was only drawn just to mislead people into thinking Grusha was an early-game gym. Either that or to avoid spoiling Fuecoco’s final evolution.
That's exactly what I was thinking. It was because Grusha was one of the first gym leaders revealed
I wish I had known that the Pokemon you catch at low level do obey you , i did grusha 6th and always was in fear of my skeledirge surpassing the level limit
I gunned straight for Grusha because I assumed they had level scaling.
I went for Grusha first because the official artwork shows Grusha gym battle, and we’re still using Fuecoco
so I assume Grusha should be the first
I knew their was no level scaling and that because their all the way at the back of the map they should be one of the strongest so I went straight for them it took a while but I beat Grusha first
level scailing would of sucked i want some gyms to be harder if i want to to fight it i can and grind for its better for it to be not scailed
I blasted directly to Alforhada after Cortondo, just to be spanked by Backpacker Paul in the way.
I first did Brassius and then Katy, but then I decided to go towards Tulip. I didn't realize that you could read the descriptions for the Gym Leaders, and you could make your way there without any upgrades to Miraidon. I figured by the level scaling of the wild Pokemon in the area that Tulip wasn't supposed to be third, but I decided to truck on through anyways. Meant that the rest of the game was a breeze until I got to Eri. The only reason Eri was difficult is because she had super effective moves against five of my Pokemon.
i was on the same bandwagon, the only thing my mind registered at the start was nemona saying that the west side was easier than the east... so west i went all the way, thinking the game was scaling a lot faster than common on pokemon games
tulip's gym really was the hardest to reach location for me specially without miraidon upgrades but is still reachable i had to go through a long cliff path
This is the order I completed the gyms:
1. Kofu
2. Larry
3. Iono
4. Tulip
5. Katy
6. Grusha
7. Ryme
8. Brassius
I know why you lost the first gym fight. You forgot to hammer away!
I HAMMERED AWAY at everything with Tinkaton from the hit game Pokémon Scarlet and Violet on the Nintendo Switch made by the small Indie company Game Freak’s signature move Gigaton Hammer, a Steel-Type Physical move that deals 160 damage, but cannot be used 2 turns in a row.
@@wysockifamily1747what the hell is even this comment? Also Tinkaton sucks lmao.
@@wysockifamily1747 WTF?!
@@jcdeton72 What?
The joke is that I used Tinkaton from the hit game Pokémon Scarlet and Violet on the Nintendo Switch made by the small Indie company Game Freak’s signature move Gigaton Hammer, a Steel-Type Physical move that deals 160 damage, but cannot be used 2 turns in a row.
@@wysockifamily1747 WHAT THE ACTUAL F*CK!!!!
Had no idea this was the recommended last gym. On my blind play through I did this gym 6th
Yeah, even weirder is how close Ryme is to Grusha on the map. You'd think that would make Ryme's gym 7th but no, it's actually 6th. The level progression has you (most likely) go around Grusha's gym to get to Ryme's, then go all the way back across the map to battle Tulip, then back again to Grusha. Without knowing any levels beforehand, I thought either Ryme or Tulip would be last based on their locations!
I did Tulip, then Grusha, then Ryme. Honestly despite her being lower level, the double battles did make her a bit more challenging for me. (I also did Larry third lol)
3rd....but I did all the titans first and caught about 300 pokemon, so my pokemon are around 60. And although I have loads of options my team still consists of 'aww...cute!' babies evolutions...Jumpluff, Arboliva, Espathra, Hatterene, Florges and Luxray, all from my first hour in game...
@@Katharina-rp7iq It was also my 3rd gym but I did 1 team star base and 1 titan boss.. had level 27 pokemon and plenty of revives... I did manage to beat this gym tho on my first attempt
@@Katharina-rp7iq you are a try hard
I thought the gyms would automatically scale so I just did it randomly and ended up fighting him third and just assumed this game had insane scaling.
I fought the bug lady last lol
gym scailing would of ruined this game
@@skycrafter2042 yea prolly
@@skycrafter2042 why?
@@massimilianoreali4398 because having the added challangr but pride and benfit if being able to fight a gym thats way over leveled is fun abd if islt scaled you couldent have that challange
It’s at least on point with her character not to warn you the gym might be too hard. She only didn’t hit you with her champion team after the director had to remind her like twice you only just got a Pokémon. In Universe she’d be oblivious to someone doing something out of their league
@@wdwfanatic1394
they're talking about nemona. not grusha.
Yeah, ran into Grusha pretty early on and got wrecked. I wished that they did some sort of level scaling for the gyms like in the Pokémon Origins anime. At least a little bit 😅
I think I beat Grusha as my 4th or 5th gym and I was already pretty over levelled by then by spamming tera dens, I didn't even realize he was supposed to be the last gym lmao.
This was my 5th gym and I was shocked that this was the highest leveled gym leader. I battled Tulip's gym last and I am glad I saved Tulip's for last because of the nostalgic patterns on the wall and walkway up to the battle arena. Now when it came to Arven (not a gym leader but should be lmao), BOY did I have a hard time. Do not go to that lighthouse after completing all titan challenges unless you are sure your Pokemon are leveled up for this. Whatever level they are, raise them 10 levels more. My team was 10 - 20 levels below his and I managed to beat him with a bit of struggle.
If you go to vending machines instead of shops, you can get lemonade (70 hp) from almost the beginning of the game. Much better than relying on potions.
When I played this game for the first time, I actually did challenge this gym first. I genuinely wasn't trying to seek out the strongest leader, I just spent hours exploring basically the entire map, and by the time I decided I should start progressing the story, this was the first gym that I picked. I was under-leveled, but I won.
how
Wait, how tf did you won? did you stall her?
@@hibari759 *HIM
Its sucks he was too pretty and I also though he was a 'she' at first.
@@denxrstudio Guys can be pretty
@@hibari759 I don't remember too much of the details of the fight, but I posted a screenshot to Twitter after the fight was over.
/OverTheRinabow/status/1594826068330156032
My team after the fight was:
Lv35 Houndoom, half health
Lv32 Ampharos, fainted
Lv36 Meowscarada, full health
Lv 36 Azumarill, fainted
Lv33 Flamigo, fainted
Lv27 Gabite, fainted
I think they should ask you before the fight how many badges you have and then fight you with a weaker or stronger team like in the origins anime
no that would ruin it having much stronger foes is the fun part haveing them fight you at a scailed level would be too easy and boring
@@skycrafter2042 but when you fight the bug leader last it’s even worse
@@ledestroyerofworlds9366 thats part of the fun to be able to fight an easy boss last or a hard one first
@@skycrafter2042 you have a Point there But I still think That the immersion is a bit ruined because of it
@@ledestroyerofworlds9366 i think its makes it more stable that eatch gym has there team but the world is open so you can go where you want dosent mean those leaders will lower there standards for you but if you wanna fight them you can
I’ll give you an answer, you’ll get rekt!
I just know it would hurt Grusha’s pride to have someone beat him first when he’s supposed to be the strongest gym leader LMAOO 💀
I accidentally went clockwise and ended up battling the hardest in the middle, then coming back to very easy gyms. Was strange.
My order was such a mess that i did Giacomo as 2nd to last team star, and great tusks as my 2nd titan
I really like your dedication, thanks a lot for this video!
Now that is what I call motivation
3 laps of walking around Los Platos is enough for all the walking evolutions btw
around in the wild, like going all the way to the entrance of mezagosa? or just the little circle in the center of Los Platos... i can't seem to evolve rellor and i have done 3 to 4 laps (big laps) around los platos
@@imblackmagic1209 Circling the full road (has a sorta trapezoid shape) continuously. Right in the middle and slow enough (walking, not on the legendary) to let the Pokemon stay caught up without it ever going back to the ball or taking shortcuts to catch up. Once you do it, you have to level it up once. I recommend exp candy.
if u fed the bronzore a bunch of sammies it should start listening to u, just gotta max affection out
I ended up doing the second hardest gym, the psychic gym, second, because I wanted to go around the whole map in a clockwise motion... And I hated the idea of going back and forth across the map. I ended up returning to the academy through the right gate in the direction of the grass gym just to cement my point. This game is a blind nuzlocker's worst nightmare. Though looking back on it, I may have preferred to go counterclockwise since a lot of my favorite Pokémon were more on the right side of the map. I had to do some quick leveling with Orthworm to catch it up to the rest of my team who were already well above level 60.
When I played blind, I ended up doing my last 4 gyms as physic, ice, ghost, and finally normal. I was so underleveled
S K E L E R I D G E
Skeledirge*
“instead of having a lowly Fuecoco we have a big strong Skeliarage”
I think I did the first gym last since I started with Arven’s Klawf first 😭 I was lowkey confused that there wasn’t scaling
I feel that in order to properly do gym level scaling they'd have to randomize the levels of npc trainers everywhere. Otherwise it would be unrealistic to have a gym leader using level 10 Pokémon while every npc trainer around them was above 50. Random levels of course while realistic cause issues in overall consistency of gameplay. I'm not sure open world in traditional Pokémon games is viable because of this but it'd work in games like Legends, with a bigger focus on catching and exploring rather than battling.
Yeah, to properly scale the content, GF will need to scale everything. Leaders, team bases, normal trainers, wild pokemon. But it should be possible. They just need to forget about having fixed data for things and instead have dynamic data that could be scaled with a formula.
So, don't have a trainer with a fixed team, have a trainer with an initial team and a formula that change the team based on the players level, like having the trainer have 4 pokemon but disabling one of them for players bellow level 30, and having those 4 pokemon change what it is (for example having evolved or not) based on player level. The same is true for the pokemon level. It could be calculated based on the player's level, so maybe the last pokemon with the same as the player's level and the rest 1 or 2 levels bellow.
Not impossible though, would certainly not take as long as the emote challenge and mR wAlKsAbOuT challenges took.
They would really only need to scale the levels of gym leaders though. The trainer encounters are entirely optional so you can roam freely without having to avoid them like in past games. They could keep the levels of wild pokemon as is, but just add some low level spawns to the regions that have gyms. Give gym leaders 8 different teams, and the one they use is determined by a check for how many badges you currently have right before the battle starts. Team Star bosses and Titans work the same way, but they check for how many bosses/titans you've defeated instead. Just changing that and adding more low level spawns would be amazing.
it's easy, closer to the city or civilization, weaker pokemon and trainers (hardcoded mind you), you can easily get away with scaling the gym leaders and the gym trainers with that and it's not that much work, just have to change a bit of things... it's also more realistic, as in zones closer to cities, people wouldn't want strong aggressive wild pokemon threatening their children... heck you could even make a hidden village with crazy strong people because it's in the middle of nowhere and that's how they survive, even children can get lvl 60 pokemon trained...
I played the game as backwards as possible and honestly I think it made it more fun, I don't know what it was but beating all the stuff you are supposed to do at the end first and then wipe everything early was really fun
When you didn’t know the “proper” order until now and realize you only get 4 of the 18 in “order”
i only got 1 in "order", the bug lady, then all went to sh
I just want to throw this out there, since it helped me decide the order to fight the major bosses in-
The game operates on a ‘rule’ that the farther away from Mesagoza you get, the stronger the Pokémon. This includes bosses. Between that, and the details listed under each boss, it should be enough to decide the order. Some details are clear (Katy and Brassius are weak, Larry is middle of the pack, etc) but others aren’t, and that’s where the location relative to other areas you know have a clear indication of level helps fill in the blanks.
Did Grusha as my 4th gym, trained an Armarouge on the mountain and it leveled fast. Easy sweep with his signature fire move.
Uhm I think the sweep was easy because he was level 62 lmao. That’s when he gets his signature move.
I actually did this for my very first run of the game, but used an Ultra Ball I found to catch a Falinks that definitely wouldn't listen to me and used that to sweep Grusha's team. And it only took me like, 20 tries.
9 minutes to answer the question, with “You get your ass kicked”
it was answered quicker than that, and then I trained up to beat him
That makes sense why some challenges were super easy and some were super hard. I went soooooo out of order.
I did that
Also Nemona literally can go to ANY gym so fast,is she a superhuman or something?
she is Goku
Same way you get to them.
That is to say, she's stalking you.
the hardest battles so far for me were the Fight against the Fighting Star-Base and our Sandwich-Maker friend^^ Cassi on the other Hand was cute how she tried to prevent her defeat :3 Had no fun in fighting her Pokémon, but she challenged me...thats the Rule of the Pokémon world.
League will probably be my next Target.
Skelly Ridge.
Skelly-ridge 😭😭
I honestly like being able to choose whichever order I want. My first time, I battled Brassius first. I lost a bunch, but once I got a strategy in mind I won
Bro Grusha was like the 3rd gym I took on
The way you pronounce "Skeledirge" 😭😭
When I played through Violet, I wound up going through the region clockwise, starting from Mesagosa. It was kinda fun seeing how wildly the levels would fluctuate from area-to-area. Just because of the team I ended up going with, I had a bit of a hard time with the Fighting-type star base, but other than that I had a blast just roaming around before realizing how they laid out the region. It was hilarious at the end wrapping up with the Fire-type star base, the level 16 Titan Klawf, and the grass gym.
I just wish that Game Freak could put some passion into their games again and properly program everything. ;-;
People downgrading passion and effort into fucking buzzwords lmao.
these games are fantastic
this feels like running straight to the castle in BOTW
I went clockwise because that was where the road takes you after beating Katy. Needless to say, I actually didn't know I was going the wrong way for a while until I fought iron treads. From there I took it as a challenge to keep going that way for the rest of the game.
I tried to fight Grusha as my 3rd gym leader.
I then immediately gave up and went to fight kofu
I did this I tried to beat him and swept him by boosting qauxly final form and potion spamming basically took a few tries
I did this too but succeeded, fortunately my Tinkaton helped
My plan was clockwise one version and counter clockwise the other, after the clockwise one...I might give up counter clockwise. Rather not deal with a party of Ash's Charizard(early series)
I almost actually did this when I first played
moment of silence for all the hp ev's you put on your mon from farming
5:49 I beat my first gym with just flamigo but we don’t talk abt that….
This is probably my biggest complaint with this game. Not the bugs, not the story or the characters. Just the “order” of all of the gyms/titans/star bases go.
I feel like im not the only one to say I went to the right, fought the titan klawf, fought the grass gym and then went to team star for fire types. And then I was absolutely under leveled for team star. even though those 3 are all right next to each other implying this is a starter type area to begin your adventure. But it really isn’t, I had to poison the team star car and just heal stall over and over until it died on its own.
Adding on to this, the psychic gym isn’t accessible until way later but I wanna fight it now, so go beat the titans right? Wrong! They are also going to be too strong! I just feel like they could have done a simple level scaling calculator for everything. Which could have led up to level 60-70 or something, which would have been a fun final challenge. Imagine a level 65 bug or normal type team?? I don’t think we have ever seen those.
Sorry for typing all this lol
i did the same, but i went left first... even fought the false dragon 3rd of the titans, i even had the illusion the other gyms would be even harder u.u only to get to the right path and see that pokemons were lvl 10 and 15...
The "last" gym was my 4th 😂 And I did all the titans before even taking on a second team star base. Open world means yolo😂
I did this with a level 57 garchomp the other day to prove a point. EV trained it, got it to level 70, and then beat Grusha with *just* Garchomp, disobeying me the entire time. Took 9.5 hours, though I could have shaved an hour or two off, I think. I tried to be too fancy with my first strategy.
Okay seriously. It can’t just be me. I missed the one line of dialogue my first play through referring to Grusha as “him” and wasn’t until I started watching videos that I realized Grusha isn’t a girl. 😂
if you look at the gym description on the map it says him
it's not just you, it also happened to me, i dont read descriptions, i play pokemon to drive species to extinction
I did something similar in scarlet as I just played through violet and wanted to complete my pokedex. So, I overleveled my team to low seventies and punched my way through everything until I got to the great crater of paldea and caught Koridon.
Pain. And rewards.
I actually did battle this gym 2nd because I spent so much time doing other stuff by the time I got here I was already slightly overleveled
“The intro is about 1 hour to complete”
☠️
You could probably cut down on that time by getting a sturdy Naclstack and using the saltcure cheese if you are willing to spam heals and maybe have an extra one in case something goes wrong.
short answer: it's hard
it hurts so much when you call it "skelly-ridge"
That's awesome! Thanks for pioneering how the "Reverse Boss Order" speedrun category is going to work.
TIL that I accidentally challenged the last gym as my 6th and the sixth gym as my final
Wait, you have to walk with Pawmo, and then battle with it WITHOUT having it return to it's pokeball to evolve it?
autobattle, or you can just lvl up him first to acording lvl and just walk slooowly with him - that's what i did. Mostly because i thought he don';t have secound stage
wait, Grusha’s the last gym leader? Stares at my 7th gym Grusha
I remember when Oblivion first introduced a scaling world, people complained that it made the world feel too centered around the player character and people actually modded it out.
This was pretty self explanatory but great video nonetheless.
I actually tried to do this on my first playthrough but didn't know low level caught mons will still obey so I gave up when party members started disobeying
Have you heard of magnemite with sturdy, endeavor and quick attack that holds a shell bell
@@idiotically-everything Magnemite, my favorite mon with quick attack
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Man. I feel so stupid now. I think I mixed up with fear gimmick togedemaru
@@idiotically-everything it happens to everyone no worries
fyi you could've caught maushold or however that mouse pokemon is called. it has runaway and it would have made this easier lol
Personally I go with this order for league gyms:
1. Bug
2. Grass
3. Electric
4. Water
5. Normal
6. Ghost
7. Ice
8. Psychic
Hope it helps to anyone wondering. Ghost and ice gyms are so close to each other so I save psychic for last.
I did the ice gym fourth 💀💀💀
I did this. I wanted a Ceruledge before I did a single gym so I grinded and got a lvl 50 Ceruledge then started at the ice gym.
10/10 would recommend
They keep calling Skeledirge "Skele-ridge."
6:55 Well yes, but actually no
You may have already known this but you see, there's this thing called Auto Heal where if you press the - button while hovering over a party member which is not fainted or at full HP, you can heal a Pokémon all the way back to full. With just a single healing item. So while you would need revives, Hyper Potions are only worthwhile in battle. The order it uses up items in is Potion, if you have no Potions it uses Fresh Waters, if you have no Fresh Waters it uses Soda Pops, then Super Potions, then Lemonades, then Moomoo Milks, then Hyper Potions. Although it doesn't cure status conditions, so Antidotes and other items that cure status conditions are still useful.
The game not being level scaled really got in the way of the open world potential. I would spend time exploring and capturing Pokemon but the stupid gym bad level cap always felt like a timer, like oops I'm near the cap again I guess I have to go beat this gym on the game's time and not my own.
I beat the gyms in reverse order on my second playthrough. I did do the path of legends quest first though. The only pokemon I had that would listen to me were my armorouge and quaquaval by the time I got there, but it really wasn't hard. This game is pretty open world despite the set levels.
Literally first time seeing Amphros and that 3D model is clean
I accidentally went straight to the Pokémon league from Mesagoza thinking it was the first route lolll, that Krookodile haunted me in my dreams wiping my team out like that
There is an order? I did the last gym before my 6th badge.. long story short it makes no difference who you battle first lol
The only "order" is if you're averse from being overleveled.
@@TuesdaysArt or underleveled.
@@TuesdaysArt no it’s called having the perfect team while having 5 badges.
First
Oh, you want a challenge. I have one for you (cause I'm doing it rn): Truant challenge.
Not just "don't go to school". Don't step foot in Mesagoza.
For those unfamiliar how to cheat off the "Great Plateau": west of Los Plato's is a hill leading up. Then a path still leading up going south. There's a trainer and 2 static spawn sunken at the base of that hill so you know it's right.
At the top of that path is a gap. Normally needing your ride to jump over simply ZL target the stronger wild Pokemon on the other side. Send out your Pokemon to battle it. Your character warps across the gap.
You can basically go anywhere. I am. However, no main quests open (obv), no terrastilazing, no terra Dens, no day-night cycle. From what I've seen.
The shop scales to badges? Guess it's time to take my level 60+ team and go get my third badge
3:50 with the caveat that you don't use it as a meat-shield while you spam "PokeBall" at other high level pokemon, 5 or 6 times of being the wall between my sprigatito and other pokemon got wooper to listen to me and it hadn't leveled yet. Same for Rockruff and Zarua, until they listened they were walls that only got healed when I went to the pokemon center cause I ran out of potions for my obedient Pokemon.
I know it was two weeks ago but the sheer level of how unoptimized this is, just to act like a player is going in blind... Im sobbing!!
hi, did Grusha as my third gym with a team across the 50s (mostly high 50s)
Granted, most of the 60 hours I've played has been wandering around. Whether it's clipping over a cliff and visiting Levincia before I attend school, or after that unlocking every pokecenter by visiting it. Starting with the poison star base, item hunting (you can get various potions, pokeballs, etc out of sequence, like shown by the luxury ball in PPS's inventory) doing all my titan badges, and so on.
I wanted to beat Iono first, but I accidentally ran into Kofu's gym challenge and said "yknow what he's cute, good first gym battle"
Should've just been two shacks of a lamb tail xD
I did all the gyms in the "correct" order by coincidence, except for Tulip who was my last. It made sense for me to go to Alfornada last since it's the hardest to get to.
It did felt like that and it was an odd choice.
this sounds like a speed run waiting to happen
haha. I did that once. It was so I could get a glimmet to listen to me. After that, the fairy starfall street was pretty simple.
skele...RIDGE??? i was expecting a sponsor segment of the video the first couple times you said that
If I were an Ice-type gym leader, here's what my team would likely be:
- Dewgong
- Glaceon
- Froslass
- Mamoswine
- Mega Abomasnow
- Black Kyurem
Try to beat THAT team first gym! (it's almost impossible)
The gym order is so counterintuitive to the map design.
Worse yet, I thought I would "do it right" by asking Nurse Joy where to go next.
She sent me to Grusha when I had like 3 badges.
Yeah Gresha was the 3rd gym battle I did, as I left out of Mesagoza on the left side and then just did all the stuff in order to how close they were lol
There is official art of this exact series of events.