Tamiya CC-01 Basic Off Road Tuning & Test Run: Tires, Ball Bearings and Locked Front Differential
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- čas přidán 24. 02. 2017
- The most basic and affordable off road tuning for a stock Tamiya CC-01. Compared to the low cost, these three essential and easy changes will change the truck's off road capabilities completely.
I know, 'cause I have already been running it like this all winter. Compared to last year, it feels like a completely different truck.
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The three steps:
1: Changing tires (and wheels)
2: Locking the front differential
3: Replacing all bushings with ball bearings
There really is no down side for step 2 and 3. Even though I like to build my models 100% stock for the first runs, I think this is how I should have build it in the first place. The advantages are great. Especially the locked front differential has changed the truck's off road capabilities tremendously. If you want to go on a bit of light trailing with your CC-01, I recommend doing this in the initial build.
Step 1, on the other hand, includes a major down side! The visual appearance of the Tamiya CC-01 Landfreeder changes completely, and, in my opinion, definitely not for the better. I really like the scale look of the stock Landfreeder, with stock tires. But then again, changing tires back to stock and lowering the body again, when one feels like it, does not take a lot of time.
Again, the advantages are great. Some Tamiya CC-01 kits come stock with off road tires. But some. like this Tamiya Landfreeder [#58579], come with tires more suited for the road. Smaller off road tires, like. 1.55, would suit the truck better visually and make way for a more scale and realistic trail run, but as I hoped to go trailing in the winter woods I wanted to try out some larger tires. I do not like the looks of it, but.. just wanted to try it. The Tamiya Rock Block [tamiya#54554/OP-1554] are versatile and very affordable. At the time of the purchase a set of 2 wheels, 2 wheel caps and 2 tires cost around 15-20 Euro/USD. They are definitely not crawler tires or some of the best off road tires. A bit on the hard side actually. But for the cost I am not dissapointed. I had to change out the body posts and raise the body for this, but as the Tamiya Landfreeder kit #58579 already comes with one extra set of body posts this could be done easily.
One could argue that a basic upgrade of a CC-01 should include changing the very hard CVA dampers most of the kits come with. I agree. I have to look into that some day too. On the other hand, I am not embarking on a complete CC-01 modification, so things like steering and suspension stays the same for now.
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Great video. I'm looking for an affordable light crawler / off roader. This was good tips. The crawler sceene has become big, and people throws tons of dollars in their rigs. And sudenly that becomes the new standard. I can not, or will not spend 5-10000 NOK on a crawler to make it climb straight up. So my point is, these small trick and tips drowns in the overwelming big dollar show boat madness. I'm really happy for those who enjoing the super rigs, but for me, on a budget, this type of videoes are spot on. Thank you🏁👌
Thanks a lot, Goran! Yeah, the CC-01 will never be a real crawler, like the SCX10, TRX-4 etc, bit it costs a lot less, and is quite realistic and very cool looking 🙂
those tires and tips u gave there were awesome... great job
Thank you, Kurnia! Not the softest tires, but affordable and at least a lot better for off road runs than the stock :-) Changes the appearance of the Landfreeder though, so I am thinking of rebooting it with the stock tires soon.
I love this video with all of the upgrade fixes and the quick lift kit fix.... 8^)
The over all Land Freeder appearance looks great!!
Thank you very much for the nice feedback. Yeah, I love this Tamiya body too!
I enjoyed your video, love the truck too.👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! It's a fun and classic Tamiya chassis, this CC-01-
Nothing better than a new pair of shoes 👍
Definitely agree! Helped a lot when going off road. Thanks for watching and the comment, Mygrowbug!
really cool channel, good camera work and music. Thank you for making this content, Im buying a cc01 soon :)
warracer03 Thank you very much for the nice feedback, I appreciate it! You will have a great time with your CC-01. Not the greatest performer, but really really enjoyable to look at and drive.
yeah, im not after performance, im after fun and this kit looks like alot of fun for the money :)
those wheels and tires look great :)
Thanks, Steve. Yeah, quite affordable too and it has made a huge difference off road :-) I like how the wheels still fit visual nicely with the Landfreeder. The tires are a bit too big and off scale but much better capabilities.
Nice upgrades nice rig!
Yeah, just the basic essentials. But they mean everything :-) Thanks for watching, Steve.
On my cc01 amarok, I have installed the hopup barrel spring set, superb and smooth!Medium on front and soft on rear, approx £10 or less
Nice! Sounds like a really good and affordable investment too. I am thinking of drilling out larger holes in the stock pistons or replacing the stock shocks altogether but the barrel springs could be an option too. Thanks for sharing your experiences here, Taffer74.
I used some boomracing tires that look nice, are cheap, and very sticky. Upgraded steering ratio, aluminum steering, rear aluminum links, rear locked differential only for offroad drifting. In a month or less im upgrading to a cr tuned motor. Havent locked the front yet.
Sounds nice! I'm tempted to do something about the steering ratio also. Must be nice. Yeah, locked rear diff only is great fun too. But going slow uphill and trailing in the forest was a bit annoying with the open front diff. I chose a method where I can easily take out the xtra spider gear and unlock the diff again, if I feel like it. Thinking about tryin' out a cheap RC4WD 35T motor. The Tamiya CR looks great, but thrice the price I think :-)
beuatiful truck
Hi Ross. Yeah, love the Landfreeder 😊
Those wheels and tires make the truck look good. I may have to get one of these.
Yeah, they are pretty nice for the price. Not the softest crawler-tires, but definitely a good set of durable off road tires for some cozy trail runs :-) Thanks for watching RC4X4!
@@NordicRC I just checked this out again. The truck looks good with the new stance. I want one now. Have been putting it off.
I like this video, technical and ride. It s do remember when i was a child and i played with my holiday buggy. Thanks you for your good job, mécanic, rider and cameraman....sorry for my bad english i m french ;-)
Nordic Rc is in what country?
Thank you very much! The Holiday buggy is an iconic model too. Glad to hear it thrilled the hearts of a child. Nothing to be sorry about, my fellow European. My English is very far from perfect. I am located in Denmark. When I was young I loved to travel in France. A beautiful country with friendly people.
looks good
Thanks! I think it looked better before, but now it at least performs better :-)
Those wheels and tyres look great on the Landfreeder. Looks like a much more purposeful machine now and they are in keeping with the 80's styling. Lovely scenery and filming too :-)
Yeah, it looks good and more powerful now, but I actually think the stock tire size fits it better. I like the look of the stock Landfreeder as this "everyday-'80s-american-pickup-truck". But the stock tires didn't bring you anywhere in the woods, so ... Thanks, it's our local "city wood" by the harbor. Great for trailing. Not great for bashing as it is full of dogs and city people :-)
Yes like you say the stock Landfreeder looks like an 80's truck as you might have bought it from the dealership and with your new wheels and tyres it looks more like one that's been modified for more serious off roading. Can't believe that your body shell still looks so good. Mine is decidedly battered !
+Pete Wylie Luckily it's easier to change tires back and forth and raising and lowering the body on a 1/10 than a 1/1 :-) Your Landfreeder set-up looks great I think. Somewhere in the middle. Yeah, I'm quite amazed too. I've actually been running it a lot and it has flipped and rolled down hills many a time. I've run it mainly in sand and grass/forest floor. Not too many crashes involving stones etc. It has started to crack a little in certain places and a couple of days ago I shattered the front 'light' bucket bar. But it still looks fairly good :-)
nice!
Thanks!
The wheels are they something new as not seen those before. But the end look is very nice.
I'm not quite sure. The wheel caps say 1995 but the instructions say 2014. Maybe the combination and package of both wheels and tires are new. I've seen the combo used on some CC-01 kits and the High Lift kit. I must say I prefer the look of the Landfreeder with the small stock tires and lowered body. Looks more like a realistic 1980s everyday pick-up truck. But this performs much better so I had to try it out :-)
nice☺
Thanks!
nice
Thanks, PhilthyCoRC!
I know this video is quiatly old but can i ask how did you lock front differential you took one piese of un locked back and put it inside the front
Im sorry for mistackes im from czech republic
Hello Vojta! So sorry for the late reply. Yeah, took one spider gear from the rear diff that I didn't use and just jammed it in the front diff. It takes some time and fiddling to get it properly aligned but once it is there it will stay there. Just try it out. I'm sure you will succeed with some patience. Don't be sorry, English isn't my first language (I'm from the Nordic Countries) so we are in the same boat :-)
Great video! But I wonder, is the cc01 also good for rally racing? I imagine with open diffs and possibly a lowering kit it should be great?
Thank you very much! Yeah, I've really liked the versatility of this kit. I think you even can go for some rallying as it is, stock. Might even lock the rear diff for some extra over steer and slides (extra fun). It flips a bit easily though in sharp turns, but as the CC-01 steering radius is very bad it is only a major problem on very solid ground. A lowering kit is a good option. You might also want to try a different gearing and a higher turn motor, as it is quite torque and not very fast stock. Here is the CC-01 in some "rally racing" on loose sand: czcams.com/video/5iwmANNBMQc/video.html
Nordic RC Visions Thanks :) Sounds good!
Thanks for watching!
I do like them original rims better, but them new tires and splendid.
Yeah, runs much better in the forest now, although I personally like the looks of both the old stock wheels and tires better. Best solution would be to find some good off road pattern tires in the stock tire size (1.55?) and fit them with the stock wheels. For good looks.
Great stuff:) I have a question. I just finished my DT02 Nissan Truck and have dt02s and cc01 from before. I want to build something Tamiya. Do you have any favourites you would recommend?
Thank you very much tjohanne. Love the DT-02 and the CC-01. Ohhh, I wouldn’t know which one to recommend as they are too numerous and depends on what you’re looking for, what their use will be and the price range. But exploring the entry-level models has always been fun and very affordable for me. Maybe a 4WD buggy or one of the classic 2WD Monster Trucks since you already have a 2WD buggy and a 4WD trail truck?
Nordic RC Visions Thanks :) Yeah, I agree. Especially with the entry level models. The thing is, I just need to build something :') I'm probably not gonna run it much. I just wonder if the grasshopper family of buggies is worth going for or if it's simply too primitive? Looks like fun to build and collect though.
Grasshoppers/Hornets are definitely fun (and affordable). It’s a quick build though.
Tire hack put your Tire fore 24 u in wd40 it will be much softer really works great
Yeah, it’s a good trick. Thanks!
I enjoyed the video. How many bearings do you need? What size is it?
I haven't got a list with me right now and I actually just bought a pre-selected set of ball bearings. Lots of 1150 sized but also a few others.
Nice upgrade wheels! Easy to get +14 mph? 🤔
that coast looks suspiciously familiar to me :P
From around here?
Just wondering when the front gear box is locked then will the rear be locked too...??
RC McTool No, it’s two separate differential gears. It comes with one diff locker and the option to lock the rear. I locked it while building it. That leaves some bevel and spider gears unused (for the open rear diff option) and one spider gear can then be used to jam the front differential and locking it, as in the video. With both diffs locked it is like a whole new truck :-) Thanks for watching RC McTool!
Buy alu beadlocks cost half the money And some good RC4wd tyres, the Tamiya one's are hard as rock ,and are to big for the model. Great video and good explanation to thumbs up
Yeah, even though these tires are a massive off road improvement, softer ones would be ideal. I am also starting to get tired of looking at it with these ones, they look too Monster Truck’ish 😅 Miss the old Scale look. But now that the CC-02 release is coming up I think I will focus on that for a while 🙂
@@NordicRC : Hi, that won't solve the tire topic. The new CC-02 will be released with the same tire pattern as in the CC-01 Jeep Wrangler (and M-1025 Hummer and ...). I bet they will be too hard too (one actual video is proofing that). RC4WD has a wide spread spectrum of tires and wheels. I'm sure there are more vendors but RC4WD has a pretty large portfolio.
How much difference was it once you put ball bearings in
Hi Jacob! It's hard to tell, since I changed the tires and locked the front diff at the same time. The real difference can only be imagined, when spinning a tire or axle with either bushings or ball bearings. Many many seconds, if not sometimes, minutes of difference. That is really bound to have an effect on the friction, releasing power, speed, torque and battery time.
Will these work on Toyota hilux tiger 1/12
I have no idea :-) Sorry. But it is 12 mm hex.
How much did the tyres cost and where can i get them
Hi Sascha! I bought a set from both Tony's Tamiya Parts (on eBay) and from Tamico but a lot of other places have them. I think I paid around 16-18 Euro for a set with two tires and wheels. Quite good compared to the price, but I guess if you want some reeeaally good soft compound tires the price would be at least double or so. A bit too much for my CC-01 budget so I am happy with these :-)
How do you like those tires? Are they much softer than the originals?
I built my Landfreeder with ball bearings, it's a crucial addition! I also did something different.... everyone goes straight to locking the front diff. As a retired Auto Mechanic, I understand that on pavement or hard dirt, locking the front diff not only chews up your front tires quickly, but it also puts extra strain on the driveshafts and the motor and ESC.
So, I filled the diff with Marine Grease! It's SO thick, that it nearly locks the front axles, but gives just enough differential action, to not stress the front end. It works perfectly on my Landfreeder!
I probably wouldn't do that on a rock crawler, but for Trailing, it's perfect.
The CC-01 can never be a great rock crawler anyway.... My method works kind of like Positraction! Better than an open diff, not as harsh as a locked diff. 😉
Just subbed!
Yeah, I've started to add ball bearings in my initial builds too now. I had this thing before, some kind of a rule, to try it out bone-stock before doing anything, but I really got tired of replacing those bushings afterwards so my new rule is that a new build is still stock even though I added some bearings from the start :-)
The tires are a bit softer, but still quite hard. Not for real crawling or something like that. The off road advantage lies just in the tire pattern and the size. But quite affordable so I'm happy :-)
It sounds like a good solution with the front diff. I just wanted to lock it completely, got some nice hills nearby that I always like to climb on my trail runs, so it works out good for me. But yeah, it's a bit of a downside when running a bit quickly. I still like to "bash" with it, and my digital servo really doesn't like the fast and sharp turns after the front lock up. It actually resets itself. When I want limited slip in my diffs I usually use Tamiya AW Grease. Really thick stuff too.
The AW Grease is an excellent idea as well. The only drawback - for me anyway, is cost for such a tiny amount. I'm sure that you, who has built many kits, you probably have dozens of pots of AW, and even more of Ceramic Grease (which I hardly ever use!).
I tried the Marine Grease because I was using it to build a couple of kits with anyway. It worked pretty well - BUT.
Since I always had a hard time leaving anything alone.... The M.G. was thick enough, but not *sticky* enough(which is why AW works well).
I found out that I had an almost full tube of Ball Diff Grease. 120,000wt!! 😲
PLENTY thick and sticky! I cleaned my diff out, and replaced the Grease with this sticky, gooey stuff.....
IT WORKS BETTER! Quite better! The much higher viscosity of the Ball Diff Grease slows down spider gears SO much, that it truly resists twisting - just like Positraction on a 1:1 counterparts!
I proved this by *disconnecting* the rear driveshaft, and driving around my workshop. I made a few ramps, high enough to pull one front wheel off the ground.
It drove over the smaller ones easily. I made a taller, steeper ramp. It actually made it more than halfway up! Remembering that only ONE wheel was pulling! The rears were disabled, and one of the front wheels was off the ground.
The wheel on the ramp started SLIPPING a little!
So now I can say I've got the front steering completely sorted - and front "Positraction" sorted!
Thanks for the tip about the digital servos. I'll know not to waste my money on them, or only use them on lighter cars and Buggies.
OldfartRC Sounds like a good test! Yeah, I have dozens of those small pots of AWG that come with both kits and packages of universal axles. If I run out some day I will try out the ball diff greae on some diffs. Sounds like it works too. I also want to try out the marine grease on some axles, like the rear CC-01, to stop all the dirt and water filling up the axle house. I'm still learning :-)
OldfartRC Ohh, I don't know if I was just unlucky with my servo or if it is broken. Other digital servos might behage differently. But the Sanwa I got in my CC-01 definitly get's really confused with hard turns with a locked front diff. It takes it about 10-15 minutes to figure out where 'neutral' is again after a hard and sudden turn :-)
Yeah, I'm not sure I want to deal with "confused" servos! 😲 Like my Channel name, I like to keep things simple and old school. I've got 30 year old Futaba S-148s that run better than a lot of the new crap sold today!
~ Carmine
where did you get all these ball bearings?
Hi Bill! If I remember correctly I just got them from eBay. Many sellers sell whole packs specific to a certain Tamiya model. Just type Tamiya CC-01 Ball Bearings and you will get some options I'm sure. Thanks for watching!
I just got an original boomerang that's never been ran for £125!!!
+Spencer's RC Adventures Nice! Congrats!
Ако продавате този джип колко ще струва
I'm not selling anything. This is "just" my hobby channel, sharing my passion for the hobby with videos. Lot's of CC-01's for sale in the RC shops :-) And thanks a lot for watching.
what size tires fit on this truck? i want to get one.
HCRCA Studios I'm not sure, but the body can be raised efficiently to make room. I think these Tamiya tires/wheels are pretty close to 1.9.
sweet. i wanna get one and i have some nice 1.7s id like to put on it
That will look awesome!