Canon EOS R & EOS R7 Which One Should You Buy?
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Looking for a new camera but can't decide between the Canon EOS R or the Canon EOS R7? In this video, I'll help you make the right choice based on your needs as a creator or photographer. With the EOS R being around for a while and the EOS R7 being the new kid on the block, it can be tough to know which one to invest in. But don't worry, I've got you covered! With my 17 years of experience in the industry, I'll highlight the specialties of each camera and guide you on which one would be better suited for what kind of creator. So, if you're looking to buy a new camera to up your content creation game, or you're a photographer wanting to upgrade your gear, keep watching. By the end of this video, you'll have all the information you need to decide which camera is perfect for your needs.
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⏩ CHAPTERS
0:00 - Introduction
0:20 - Price EOS R vs EOS R7
1:07 - The Two Big Differences
1:30 - Sports and Wildlife Photography
2:01 - APS-C Sensor and 1.6x Crop
2:38 - Wedding and Event Photography
3:39 - Full Frame vs APS-C
5:36 - Nature and Architectural Photography
6:35 - Portrait Photography
8:26 - Which is Better for Video?
9:53 - Both Cameras are Fantastic
10:47 - R7 vs Fuji
12:01 - Final Thoughts
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Which camera is right for you? The EOS R or the R7? It's crazy to think that both cameras are so similarly priced.
Many people including myself are confused about which one to buy for starting a professional career. As we can see that both cameras have their share of pros and cons. But one thing that makes me think is that EOS R has a full frame sensor but uses Digic 8 processor and R7 has crop sensor and latest Digic 10 processor, and we all know that processor also plays an important role in image quality.
Can you please clarify on this point ?
Thanks in advance.
I shot landscape, and people in events. Studio work is not far off. What do you recommend?
@@pritammullick2551 I started with the canon R10 I’m satisfied with the quality of photos and videos , however, full frame camera produce much better photos, I borrowed eos RP and was so happy with outcomes that I decided to stick with a secondhand eos R and a new RF 24-70.
I think EOS R7 is overpriced and isn’t worth it to buy.
You do not understand how much much I’ve been wanting to see the comparison. Appreciate this so much
You're welcome glad the video was helpful for you. Both cameras are fantastic tools but it all comes down to what you want to shoot.
This is easy. I had EOS R. The R is excellent for landscape and portrait photography. Anything that doesn’t move fast. If you shoot wildlife, sports or aviation I would go with an R7. Also the extra depth of field of the C size sensor is a positive for macro photography.
You're 100% right and also good point about the macro photography. I totally missed that but that's a good point as well. That would definitely help. Thanks for the comment.
Excellent detail, I do make macro!!!! Thank you!
Crop sensor is better for Macro? That’s interesting. I never thought of it that way
Not easy. No ibis..
Hi there. I have a 5D IV (similar sensor to the R) and a M6II (similar sensor to the R7). Both can take amazingly sharp images. I think sharpness is more determined by the quality of the lens. APS-C sensors have come a long way concerning low light performance and dynamic range and in many cases NEWER APS-C sensors preform better than OLDER full frame sensors. The R7 appears to be the perfect action camera (now we need the reasonably priced lenses for it).
When I do professional work I use my 5DIV, mostly because I have a variety of L-lenses as well as the camera's wonderful control surface with all of its easy to access buttons and dials. When I walk about, do street photography, or hike in the wild to do landscape photos I much prefer a small camera. My current choices are a Fugi X100S and a M6II. I don't think either are weather sealed, which is my biggest complaint. However, both are light and take awesome photos. I don't believe that I need 50 MP to take a landscape. Why do I need to see every blade of grass? The Fugi has 16 MP and the M6II has around 30. Either camera does a great job.
Thanks for the comment. I'm looking forward to seeing the R7 image tests. I think it's going to be one of the best APS-C cameras ever. My thoughts were based on my experience shooting with older aps-c sensors and the Fuji x100v which is also an aps-c sensor. I just don't find the aps-c sensor gives me the detail I'm used to. But you're right it might have something to do with the lenses. The fact that the R7 has an RF mount could be a game changer. And also yes, sharpness isn't everything the mood and feel of an image are important too if sharpness was the only thing that made a good photo than we'd all be amazing photographers lol. By the way if you're looking for a light weight carry camera that is waterproof check out the x100v. When you screw on a front filter it becomes waterproof. Thanks again for the comment.
i've been waiting for a video like this, thanks! Im so torn between these two cameras but this video gave me a bit more to think about. Im just a hobbyist and I mostly take photos of my toddler who does not sit still and my dogs who are always on the move. Im nervous the 8fps on the R won't be enough but I do love the bokeh and the sharpness/details that a full frame offers, that being said, I rarely print and mostly post to social media-maybe print the odd fam photo. The auto focus system on the R7 is very tempting. If only the R6 was in my budget. I was about to purchase the R when they announced the R7 and then I had second thoughts.
I've got a point that will solve your dilemma nice and fast. Buy the EOS R because if you ever want to take big family photo with a large group of people the R7 doesn't have any really wide lenses you can shoot a big group with. . . . But inevitably Canon will make a wide angle RF-S lens. Just a matter of time if you want to wait. I'm sure you'll be happy with either camera. :)
@@vaskoobscura_ thanks! Not much of a concern for me because I only ever take photos of my immediate family and hire a professional for the big stuff. My camera is a hobby and more to document my kids life. I watched your other videos on the R and in one you had mentioned that it wouldn't be great for fast moving kids jumping up and down etc, have your thoughts changed on that? My current set up is a rebel with 5fps and very poor auto focus, I can get sharp photos but its hard with how much movement im working with. Anything will be an upgrade haha
The EOS R has way better AF than the Rebel it should be able to track your kids pretty well. But when it comes to shooting it has a slow burst. If speed is what you're after the R7 would definitely be faster. The issue with the R isn't the AF speed it's the processor. It's got a Digic 8 processor in it and it was never designed to keep up with the demands of mirrorless. It's fine for shooting portraits but once the camera has to track subjects especially in low light you start to feel the lag. The R7 has a Digic X processor which is the same one found in the R3.
@@vaskoobscura_ interesting, you’ve definitely given me more to think about. My SL3 has the Digic 8 as well. No matter which way I go it looks like I’ll be giving something up, just have to decide which is most important to me I guess. Thanks for the help, much appreciated!
I’m facing a similar dilemma! I want a full-frame Canon for general purpose as a hobbyist; including use for astrophotography, wildlife, sports, and portraits. I want to get a Canon with the capabilities of meeting those demands, at least decently, but not at the cost of cameras that are specific for those demands. Which one did you decide on?
Love this comparison. Seems like a lot of other CZcams forget about the R and only talk about the R5 and R6. I currently have the R and love it for landscape photos but definitely feels lacking trying to track animals, especially birds in flight. Hoping to get the R7 to upgrade my wildlife arsenal.
Thank you for the comment. You are right. The EOS R only has a Digic 8 processor so it's a little slow when tracking things that are moving really fast. And with no animal or bird eye detect it's pretty hard to shoot wildlife. The R7 sounds like it could be your perfect camera. The tracking capability of the camera looks pretty amazing so far. Are you going to pre order it or wait for the CZcams reviews to start coming out?
@@vaskoobscura_ I'd love to pre order but working on saving up some money to purchase it. Hoping to get it in the next couple of weeks though and also have time to watch some more videos, just to be 100% sure.
Good comparison review. I recently upgraded/downsized from the 6D MkII to the EOS R. I shoot weddings but have yet to shoot one with the EOS R. I have the RF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM, RF 50mm f/1.8 STM, and the RF 35mm f/1.8 Macro IS STM. When I can afford two other “L” lenses they will be the 16-35mm, and the 24-70mm. 😎
Downsized. lol. Those new mirrorless cameras are a treat to use. So light in the hands. I remember you commenting on another video you were looking into picking up the R and trading in some lenses. It's a fantastic camera. Hope you're enjoying it so far. Thanks for the comment and the grammar correction the other day.
@@vaskoobscura_ You're young so your short term memory is still intact! Lol! I forgot about that comment! And yes, I'm really liking the EOS R. And it's dope that you can program practically any button, dial, or ring to do what you need it to do! And you're welcome, I don't wear my grammar police uniform all the time! Lol!
Great job on your videos! I have a quick question. If you had the r6 as your main camera, would you get the canon RP, R7, or R as your secondary camera to shoot portraits? I am not sure which camera to buy to have as a secondary camera.
That would make sense. If you have the R7 and the R you would have all your bases covered. You'd have FF and APS-C, a good wide angle camera and a good action photography camera with reach. The R7 is a fantastic video camera and the R would be a perfect B-cam. They would work well together.
I don't want a crop at all. I'm always in tight spaces and the full frame of the EOS R is awesome for it. I used to have APS-C (learned on a Rebel T3i) but that crop makes it so annoying to work with the situations I'm always in. The 4k crop in the EOS R was annoying until I got the RF 15-35mm f2.8 L. I use my EF 50mm f1.8 STM ($125) and its as sharp or even better than the RF kit lens. I use the R as a webcam as well with the nifty 50mm with buttery bokeh. That cheap $125 50mm would be at 80mm on APS-C, not ideal for a webcam use.
I do full length e-commerce fashion photography and video on the weekends as a side hustle. I personally own a EOS R and have access to an R5 from my day job. The R is just as good as the R5 for photos (the 45mp is nice though for details) but the R5 dominates for video. I do corporate industrial machinery marketing during the week. Full frame is ALWAYS better IMO. APS-C is good for sports since you can reach further with a crop on top of a lens zoom. If all you do is shoot outdoor then R7. I don't plan or foresee myself shooting sports, fast moving action, or wildlife. E-Commerce fashion and corporate work is $$$$$.
Video grain from high ISO can be fixed with a premiere pro plugin. I use NeatVideo. It's all about that post production. It's best to learn photoshop/lightroom and how to edit video correctly to be more valuable.
I shoot all manual. I have some flashpoint 600watt strobes and 2 aputure C300D MkII LED video lights.
Hey that 50mm f1.8 is a fantastic lens. I still have mine. It was one of the first lenses I bought. I'm not a big fan of the crop in APS-C myself. I don't shoot anything at a distance so it gives me no advantage. I agree with all your points you know your stuff. Thanks for the comment. Really appreciate you taking the time to write that.
Great video. Any thoughts on the R7 vs the Sony A7 IV? I'm a Canon shooter...but from a 7D and looking to use a new camera for instructional videos and also for photos of our animals
Thanks for the comment. I would go with the R7 over the A7IV. Sony just has a strange color science to me. Skin tones look orange and green leaves have a yellow tone. Once you're used to Canon color science it's hard to use Sony. I bought an A7III when it came out and I got so frustrated with it that I had to sell it. But that being said colors are subjective everyone likes different things so it's really up to you. Both cameras are very capable at shooting instructional videos and animals. The R7 would give you more reach for shooting animals because it's an APS-C sensor.
This thing where wedding photography has to be full frame is a crock. The same goes for commercial photography That’s a crock as well. Your work speaks for itself. I’ve done both weddings and commercial photography on 60D’s for years. The clients don’t care what camera you shoot on. I believe this R7 can hold it’s own in any of those situations no problem. I was just at my local camera store and I tested out one with the Canon rep and I’m quite surprised. I now shoot with an R and and RP for fashion and portraits The autofocus on this camera is awesome.
Hey thanks for the comment. Appreciated. I've been hearing a lot of good thing about the auto focus on the R7. Sounds like it could be right there as one of the best AF systems Canon has ever made. Regarding aps-c vs ff vs mf it all depends on the gig. If you're shooting for web or social media content most clients don't know, don't care or can't tell the difference in resolution but when you get into the $20k+ gigs with art directors shooting for major brands it all changes. They want high resolution and they want lots of negative space around the subjects for copy. They want fine details to show up when images go to print. When they interview you for the job they ask you what kind of camera you'll be shooting with. That's the kind of commercial work I was referring to in the video.
Great video. I’m at the paralysis by analysis stage lol. I’ve been using an 80d (with both Sigma APS-C lenses, Tamron FF lenses, and two Canon L lenses), and waiting for the “right” mirrorless camera to jump to. I often print up to poster size, and don’t have an issue with noise up to about 3200. I was mostly shooting hockey, bit of basketball (which, in most gyms is brutal for light), but also do some portrait, landscape, travel etc. The R6 doesn’t get the detail I want with only 20mp and is pricey. The R5 is overkill, as is the R3….the R might fit for those situations I want wide or more “bokeh”, but I’m concerned the AF or EVF won’t keep up with the sports or the occasional bird photography I do. So, I think I’ve come to the conclusion I just need both lol. Pricier than just an R6, but way cheaper than the R5. Oh, I also like the top panel on the R. I guess I’m old school, but it sure comes in handy when doing landscape in bright sun to see the settings at a quick glance. Anyway, great video again!
I think you got your answer. lol. Both. The EOS R has no animal eye detect so bird photography won't work. The AF tracking is too slow for sports too. The R7 is awesome for sports and birds but it's hard to shoot wide on the R7. But there are some options. You can buy the EF-S 10-18mm lens and put it on the R7. It would give you a wide shot and I think it's an F5.6 lens so you'll have plenty of depth of field and detail. Or you can pick up a used EF 16-35 and use that on the R7 and get relatively wide. the 16mm becomes a 25mm on the APS-C. Now I guess you have to ask yourself which camera do you buy first? lol
@@vaskoobscura_ I use the Sigma 8-16 designed for crop. It’s a slow lens (4.5-5.6), but I just keep it at 5.6 and it’s relatively sharp (not as sharp as my L lenses, but better than kit lenses for sure) with great contrast. Unfortunately I don’t think Sigma sells that lens anymore, but the build quality is really good (just prior to their new lens styles). In practice, I find 8 too wide on a APS-C, and usually stick within the 10-12mm range. The benefit though, is for travel, using the Sigma lenses (also the 17-70), and a Tamron 100-400 for travel keeps my bag light…something else that isn’t mentioned much when comparing the FF to APS-C options. As far as which one to get first, that’s where I’m at. Lol. With all the recent R cameras, I find it hard to believe that Canon will come out with a replacement for the R that undercuts the R6 pricing by $1k, yet offers up a 30-ish MP sensor, great build quality, and really good EVF/back panel. At Just under $2k, the EOS R might be a FF Canon that won’t be duplicated for a long time.
Great summary of the R vs R7. The Canon R has a 1.8 crop on 4K so definitely the R7 wins here with no crop in 4K regardless that it is apsc, and also has fine video mode downsampled from 7K (32mp sensor) and IBIS in camera (although 4K 60P is line skipped, 4K 30P is not) plus no maximum record limit. The R now an older camera has the full frame sensor going for it for photos, and that is its greatest strength. So, if emphasis is on video as run and gun, R7 is great. The R though would be fine for quality vlogging in studio and occasional video, plus its advantage of bokeh.
Hey thanks for the comment. But I don't understand how an APS-C sensor camera has no crop in 4k it's an APS-C sensor it inherently crops in on all lenses. The EOS R has a 1.75 crop in 4k and the R7 has a natural 1.6 crop. Other than that I totally agree with you. On the video side the R7 is by far the better camera. I was going to buy one as a B-cam until I realized that there are no quality wide angle lenses for canon's APS-C cameras yet. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping they come out with a RF-S 10-15mm f2.8 or something like that. Thanks again for the comment.
R7 all day. Especially since RF lens work on the crop sensor. R7 for me would be an investment into the R series.
Ya if it's the camera with the features you need i'm sure it will be amazing. Even if you have older EF lenses they will work grate on the R7. So far my experience with EF glass on the RF mount is that it works the same as native glass. I haven't experienced any issues with focus or tracking. Thanks for the comment. Enjoy the R7 when you get it. I'm sure you'll get some fantastic shots with it.
I agree Fuji output is great. But I found the ergonomics of the bodies uncomfortable in my hands. The shutter on top and not slightly forward I find uncomfortable. Even with the grip. The XH2s is interesting but at $1000 more than the r7, it makes it easier for me to go towards the r7.
That's a very good point. Even though I'm not a big fan of Canon's new looks It's hard to argue against the ergonomics of their bodies. That's one thing they do right. The XH2s is a strange camera I'm not sure who Fuji is going after with that one? Sports and Wildlife shooters? It just seems out of place.
Thanks for this video, you helped me out a lot. I just started with an EOS 70D, and I'm really into nature, street, and portraits of my kids. I wanted to go mirrorless, but I agree with you about the full frame. I think the R is for me, and the video on the R is not bad at all to where I'd miss the R7.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comment. The video on the R is grate. If you want to go wide you just need a really wide lens to compensate for the crop if you're shooting in 4k that is. Enjoy your new camera.
I bought the R about 2 years ago during the mirrorless craze. I wasn’t too happy with the ergonomics or lacking features, and I was graduating from a Canon T6i which is a APS-C camera. The Eos R7 looks to be a bridge between their T series to mirrorless lineup. I’m not sure sensor size defines how sharp an image is, as the R7 is 32MP vs the 30MP, but the R7 has a lower ISO. I do believe lens quality matters a ton though. I appreciate the R7’s IBS, dual SD, and faster processor.
I do keep hoping they’ll release some insane 100MP mirrorless portrait camera for us portrait enthusiasts.
Can't argue with you there the EOS R was missing some features compared to to other camera at the time but then again it also had features that other cameras didn't. It's not that FF is sharper than APS-C it's that FF captures more details. It resolves more fine details over APS-C. But speaking of details there is a rumour floating around of a R5s. Something like the 5DSR which is supposed to be 100mp photo camera.
If you're really into capturing fine details and high resolution portraits I'd suggest you look into the Fuji GFX 100s or 50s. With that bigger sensor you'll get all the freckles within freckles on a face. It's pretty incredible. Thanks for the comment. appreciated. If I hear anything solid about a R5s i'll make a video about it.
Yea as a t6i user I feel the r7 is canons first real mirrorless camera IBIS, solid tracking , a new digital sensor rp and r was a joke to all the loyal canon users
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Shooting birds and wildlife my subject is often smaller and in the middle of the frame. I often have to crop. From what I've read the R7's uncropped image will be the approximate equivalent of crop mode on an 80 megapixel full frame camera. Combined with the extra reach I'll be getting from the R7 making the subjects larger in the frame I think it will be far superior for me than a full frame camera even for resolution and details.
Oh absolutely 100% agree. The R7 is your camera. It's built just for what you shoot so it will be perfect for you. Thanks for the comment appreciate it and enjoy the R7 when you get it. I'm sure you'll get some fantastic shot with it.
Always go full frame if you can
It really depends on what you shoot. You gotta use the right tool for the job.
Hi, thanks for sharing your information.
I am a teacher and tend to make video while writing on the whiteboard. Which one do you suggest?
If you're just making videos of yourself writing on a white board than I think the R would be the best option for you.
Hello from Uruguay, new to your channel, but wanted to let you know that I agree with a lot of your conclussions! (sorry for my grammar) Which camera whould work best with Lensbaby lenses? I was planning to get one of those 56 mm for flower photography. I have my Fuji xt4 -100-400 lens for my birding photography! But as I owned a Canon 5Dsr, I am used to full frame as well, and still have many of my tamron lenses I used with that one. My fields of interest are: Birding, macro of insects, flowers and lastly some landscape as well, which is my choice when I travel far from home :) Does the Eos R has animal focus? Thank you ver much Vasko :) Good vibes from the south!
Hi, Uruguay is a long way away. It's amazing how we can connect over the internet. Based on what you want to shoot I would go with the R7. The EOS R doesn't have that animal and bird AF and I'm sure that is something you would miss if you didn't have it. In regards to the lensbaby I have never used one of those lenses so I don't know which camera would work better with that type of lens. The R7 should work without issue with your old EF lenses using an adapter. I haven't had any issues adapting EF lenses to the RF mount. The AF works as if they were native lenses. Hope that helps answer your questions. Thank you for the comment from Toronto Canada.
@@vaskoobscura_ This was funny! In first place thank you so much for your answer. Just for fun, yday, I was telling my husband about a big trip I did to your part of the country when I was younger ( Yes I am old) and how beautiful it was, how neat. I went to Toronto, but not to the city, instead I went to the fields, and smaller town. My best memory around there was picking strawberries at a farm, instead of a salesman putting them in a bag for me. That was such a joy!!! Later I washed them and just ate them in the car. Don't know if this still exists, I am talking about 30 years ago! :) Best wishes from the other side!
@@vaskoobscura_ Thank you very much for your reply! It was very useful indeed. I was thinking about the R7, and the lovely 100-500, that would get me to my usual 600!!! I wish for you all the blessings to come!
Easy - both. If you can swing the $$$. Lol. But seriously, I think that combo would be perfect for me. Everything from astro/night sky, landscape, portrait, to sports & wildlife photography is covered by these two bodies for a hobbyist like me. Save the R5 money and get more RF glass - that's my plan.
You're right together it would be a pretty formidable combo capable of covering a lot of ground. The prices are only going to continue falling on the R so I guess that's good news. :)
I have a Canon 80D and a sigma art 18-35 f1.8 and a sigma 50-100 f1.8.
I hope both sigma work well in the r7 with the adapter.
With the advantage that the r7 has in body stabilization.
My only doubt is the performance in low light.
What do you think about it?
I'm pretty sure if your Sigma lenses work with an EF mount without issue they'll work with the adapter on the R7 without issue. I haven't tested it but I've had no issue with adapted EF lenses. We'll see how it works in low light. APS-C is not known to be that good in low light. But we won't know what the performance will be till the CZcams community starts testing it out. Hopefully we'll find out soon. I'm curious too.
Hey Vasko, great channel, subscribing! 👍 I am transitioning to mirrorless for Wedding photography(not much video, if at all)...so, here we are 2023 and I am bashing my head over whether to go with the R (great price, the extra money can invest in a lens), or go with the R6 mark II (high price, but lllllooong future proof). Main concern AF performance in low light...so, what is your opinion, what would you advice me to do?? Is the R worth investing in in 2023, or is it best I go with the R6 anyway? Thanks ahead and all the best in 2023!
Welcome to the channel glad you're here. Thank you for subscribing.
I've used the EOS R to shoot weddings before. The images are beautiful out of the R but it does have some issues with speed in low light. The processor on the camera doesn't have the speed to process the visuals to the EVF in real time and it get's laggy. I made a video talking about the EOS R as a wedding camera here: vaskoobscura.com/blog/2021/2/1/wedding-photography-with-the-canon-eos-r
I think the R6 or R6mkII would be the better choice but to be totally honest if you can get your hands on an R5 for your wedding work you'll love the image quality. The R6 with it's 24mp sensor is a bit small. The R5's 45mp sensor is so much better. You not only get so many more megapixels to crop in if you want but when you shrink that 45mp image down to websize for the client gallery the image just looks so good. R5 would be my top recommendation for wedding work than the R6 mkII than the R6. Hope that helps good luck with your wedding photography.
@@vaskoobscura_ Thanks for the kind reply Vasko! 🙏 The subscribtion is well deserved, no need to thank, I've watched a number of your videos before subscribing, including the one you sent me a link of, but here on YT...anyway, the R5 is out of my reach for price, we have a Canon Cashback action here, even with that I can get it for about 3500 eur at best...the r6mii is 2700, the R is 1600. Tried the R last night, a friend has it, and even in dark, outside street light, it did not miss a focus. It did seem a bit slow in some situations, but did not miss. Loved even the touchbar 😄 But...I am afraid if I invest in it, it can quickly become outdated, and as "cheep" as it is, its still not free 😄 So I wonder how the AF speed compares to the r6mii, is it THAT big of a difference for my purpose...but will see 🤯😆 Thanks allot for your reply once again, "see you" here! 👍
@@marvelchuruk7052 the R6mkii will have better AF options but I don't know by how much. I have an R5 and an R and I can say the AF speed and reliability of the R is just as good as the R5. I have no problem with either. The only difference is the R gets a little slow in low light. The sensor in the R is from the 5DmkIV so it's a pro quality sensor.
@@vaskoobscura_ I keep finding pros (like yourself) telling the same thing 😄 that whatever I go with, I wont be wrong, because the R is also a great camera still today 😄 Thats why I wonder if the extra 1000eur is worth for the R6mII....and it makes my life difficult 😄 hhah.....but I think I will go with the R6mII...I shoot a bit of macro as well, so the 30mp would come in handy regarding details...but the R6mII has in body focus stacking which can also come useful besides the better AF.....it also has digital Teleconverter...aaandd important regarding weddings - the low light high ISO performance(for churches etc) - they say its not comparable to the R - the photos are just clean even in high ISO(or.....??) ...thanks allot for your help! I am alternately bying the R, then the R6mII in my head these days, and trying to get a sense of whats the right feeling 😄 ...hahh.....btw, Vasko is a common name in my country(North Macedonia), and also allot of people from here move to Canada from long ago...do you have someone in your fammily who is Macedonian? Have a great day Vasko, thanks allot!
First comment here?! Lol I feel special. Anyways I bought the EOS R a few days ago and it has improved my business DRAMATICALLY already. I picked the EOS R because I’m a new wedding photographer in the block the megapixels helps me with sharp images but also gives enough room to give me better shots in low light conditions. Also because of its full frame sensor I can get wide shots better with a 35mm so I can take better shots before each ceremony of the bridesmaids and groomsmen preparation.
I pair this up with the Canon M50 to do my vlogs or just be a video camera for my wedding. I know the M50 is risky for weddings video but until I get the money to buy a second R this is my solution.
Nice congrats on the the EOS R and the first comment. I've used it to shoot weddings as well and it's always produced beautiful photos. Just some advice remember to keep switching out your memory cards every few hours with the R. It only has one card slot so you have to be a little more proactive at making sure you don't loose a lot of shots if a card fails. Because you can't reshoot a wedding :) And cheers to shooting weddings. That's my favorite thing to shoot. It's such a rush. Thanks for the comment.
@@vaskoobscura_ thank you. And awesome videos, love your content, been watching for quite a while now. Keep it up!
Thanks appreciate it. Glad you've been enjoying the content. Hey let me ask you this. What do you think of the short 10 second intro on my videos with that digital voice. Should I keep it or cut it all out completely?
The R is great for weddings, portraits and events. I would recommend it to anyone doing that, but if you need speed, range, and tracking for wildlife, sports, and aviation I’d say go with the R7. Different tools for different jobs.
@@vaskoobscura_ I honestly didn’t mind it past few videos but if you wouldn’t have mentioned it I wouldn’t have paid so much attention to it going back on your intros lol. Too be honest it’s fine but I would leave the voice on only for the title not the subtitle. Whatever is in black should be read with voice. What’s in white is too long for voice. I would make the audience read. Hearing the voice up front is catchy, it grabs attention then let then force them to read the rest, sparks more interest. Maybe get a vote on my opinion don’t just take my word for it 😉
I am trying Street Photography and doing product shoots. In the future, I'm willing to do weddings. I currently use Nikon APSC camera now it seems that switching to a Full Frame is worth it.
I started on APSC when I got into photography but when I switched to full frame it really changed everything for me. It's a different experience and the extra resolution/detail from full frame was a welcome change. Thanks for the comment. Glad the video was helpful for you.
Hello,
I’m need a camera for mostly commercial video work for a video intern position in a marketing firm. Most of the work will be for creating video content, but occasionally taking photos. Which camera is the best? I’m leaning toward the r7 bc of the stabilization and auto focus but the crop sensor is a bit of a worry for me.
The crop sensor in the the R7 is only an issue if you have to shoot wide angle shots. If you want to get close and wide to a subject or object. That's the only real limitation in video. Canon make that 16mm 2.8 STM lens which turns into a 25mm with the crop which is wide enough for most types of video including vlogs. The R5 is what I use for my video production work and it's been a fantastic video camera for me. You get the IBIS and the full frame. The R6 is also another option for full frame and IBIS. Hope that helps. You can always try the R7 and if you don't like it return it.
I have an EOS R, and like all the comments are saying, it's amazing for portraits / people. Just shot an indoor wedding (terrible lighting) with the EOS R and it preformed fantastically.
I have the 800mm f11 and I'm considering getting a R7 specifically for that lens. I do a decent amount of wildlife photography, and the lack of animal eye af and fast frame rate on the EOS R makes me miss a decent amount of shots.
EOS R for people, landscapes, and basically everything that isn't sports or wildlife. R7 for sports and wildlife. At least, that's my opinion.
100% agree with everything you said. I think you summed it up perfectly. That R7 with your 800mm and animal eye detect will be one heck of a combo. That turns into something like 1200mm on the R7. That's some reach. Thanks for the comment. Appreciated.
Got the R7 and I'm thinking buying also the EOS R :)
Both are fantastic cameras. I'm sure you'll enjoy both.
APS-C's main advantage is not in capturing more details. Of course a full frame will capture more details and usually has more resolution.
The advantage of APS-C is long lenses (and of course price). For example to fill a frame with a bird, you will need to crop the full frame R5 to 1.6X and you have now only 15 megapixels left while the R7 will have 32, so double.
You are 100% correct. Hopefully I got that point across in the video. Thank you for the comment. Appreciated.
If you like fine details when zooming in eos R is for you? The R7 is more pixel dense than the R, especially considering the crop factor if you need to crop the R
Yup you got it. The EOS R will capture more details. Even though the R7 is more pixel dense, it is not more pixels over a larger area it is more pixels over a smaller area so you're not really capturing more light information.
@@vaskoobscura_ but you can crop further so I guess the confusion is how I interpreted your use of the word “details”
I’m coming from a A7iii and did mostly Street/Family/ Portraits. What’s a step above the R with a full frame sensor?
A step above the R would be the R6 and a step above that would be the R5. Hope that answers your question.
Ugh I thought this video would help but it only made me want BOTH more. I shoot on APS-C and I’ve never had the opportunity to use a FF. I’m starting to do this as work and not just as a hobby and I was looking to step into mirrorless. I have a 24-105 4, 50 1.8, 24 2.8. I’ve never been dissatisfied with the bokeh or the lengths even though I recently found out about the crop factor. But I’m learning I can get sharper images and better bokeh with a FF. With my current budget since this isn’t full time and I have kids I was thinking of getting the EOS R until the announcement of the R7. So many people say FF is the way to go, but I’m not sure if it’s worth it over the R7 and the features it has. IBIS is nice and so is the double card slots which I also had no problem with until someone gave me an example of a card failing. So honestly there are a lot of reasons to get both and I really appreciate the information you put here. Even though it made it harder to choose, I have found multiple new reasons on why I want both. Thank you.
Yup you're right you can get more bokeh with full frame but with that being said it all comes down to what you shoot. You have to think about what you shoot then pickup the right tool for the job. If you're shooting subjects that are moving fast like sports or wildlife than the R7 would be the better choice. The EOS R also doesn't have animal eye detect so if your shooting wildlife it's probably not the one for you. If you're shooting portraits of people the R would be the better choice. It all comes down to what features you need to get the shots you want to create. Hope that helps.
@@vaskoobscura_ Absolutely! I’m testing the EOS R this weekend on a model then the R7 later once my local store gets some to rent! Love this channel! Thanks for responding!
Hey thanks glad you're loving the channel. I make these videos to help out my fellow creators so any time you have any question drop me a comment. Have fun at your shoot.
Or.. Just get a Sony. 7iii or iv.. Checks all of your boxes, and you have a wider range of lenses to choose from.
Hey man, I do wedding Videography, I already had R6 and probably will take time before I can afford again with another, I badly need a 2nd camera, do you think r7 will hold up? Or there will be a huge lost in the Full Frame Look? I change to Full frame due to the Full Frame bokeh, will I lose it all in R7? I wanted 4k60 and IBIS (going to shoot a lot of handheld) but Eos R is full frame and it does have an All-i Capacity the only problem is it offers 4k Crop and I found it bad, but still the 1080p it offers is astonishing so I am so torn with these two cameras. I will be using it more on glides, I will used 16mm f2.8 on the R7, and 35mm on R6, or EOS R with 16mm 2.8 RF what should I buy that would maximize flexibility in shooting without losing so much quality? R or R7? Hope you can help me.
I don't have much experience with the R7. I've only used it a few times so far but the IBIS looks amazing. The video is vey smooth. But the problem with the R7 is that it only has 8 bit IPB and IPB Light in regular video mode. If you wan 10 bit you have to shoot in clog3. The R6mkII just came out so you might be able to find a used R6 at a good price. The bokeh on a full frame camera is so much better and the image resolution is also better. Hope that helps and sorry for the late response.
@@vaskoobscura_ Thanks, Yep, I hold out and planning to buy the R6mk2, I rent the R7 didn't give me the impression I wanted, so I didn't buy it. Thanks for response.
I have the r and dslr 80d. Looks as though what I have will do me for a while, though I was looking to replace the dslr with mirrorless
The EOS R is a great camera. You're probably good on cameras for a while. The new bodies don't really offer anything that makes it really necessary to upgrade.
I do a lot of events, parties, and some basketball games of my son. I currently shoot with 6D Mark ii, and my lenes are 24-105 is usm and 2.8 70-200 L. Should I upgrade to eos r or eos 7r? Also, I have canon 70d just sitting in my bag. Thanks
hmmmm for you I would recommend selling your 6D and 70D and buying an EOS R6 mkII or the original R6. I think one of those cameras would suit your needs very well. I've shot weddings and events with the EOS R and the processor is slow and has trouble refreshing the screen fast in low light. The R7 can handle the basketball games and events but it's an APS-C camera so it will be nosier in low light. The other issue with APS-C is that it's tough to get wide shots because of the crop. I don't know if you shot a lot of wide shots for your work but that's something to think about. Hope that helps. :)
The EOS R is excellent for landscape, portrait and general photography but not good for wildlife other than static subjects
That's an interesting position. I haven't had any issues with the EOS R tracking subjects (people) and staying locked on them even if they are moving. But I don't shoot wildlife. I guess without animal eye detect the camera has trouble tracking the animal if it's moving. I assume that's the point you're trying to get at.
Exactly that and have used it for wildlife for over a year and on static subjects it is superb but it does not have the tracking ability of frame rate for fast moving subjects. Will purchase a R7 when available to buy to compare
You forgot about Dynamic Range in favor of the R. Definitely an important point.
And IBIS...in favor of the R7
I didn't find any info on that. What is the dynamic range difference between the R and the R7?
What shall I buy for food and product photography 🤔
For food and product photography I would 100% go with the EOS R. When it comes to product photography details are important and the Full Frame sensor is better at capturing fine details.
For content creator .? Which do you prefer between both? Most focusing will be on videos.
The R7 is probably better for making videos. It has IBIS and better quality video overall.
@@vaskoobscura_ As a beginner in terms of cameras, which lens do you recommend? Is the one that comes with the camera recommended as the quality is enough for me
Hi Sir,
I would like to use vacation and family events personal. Which one the best for me?
If I were you I would go with the R7 for that kind of shooting. Hope that helps. Thanks for the comment.
I have a Eos r I’m looking to do bird photography should I buy a R7 or just save for a R6
I'm not a bird photographer but I would think the R7 would be the better camera for bird photographers. The APS-C sensor lets you get a lot closer to the birds with the 1.6x crop factor. Your 200mm becomes a 320mm.
It's just killing me that there will be no grip for the R7. I have an R5, 2x EOS R, and a 90d. My R7 came in today... didn't pick it up. Probably going to cancel it and let someone else have it. I was really stoked about it, but the balancing is going to be stupid. The body not having the mode switching like the R & R5 was almost a deal killer. I purchased the VILTROX EF-R3 Pro (focal reducer) to go with the R7, but it is wicked with the R and R5 too.... first world problems. Everything is so awesome now that we have to nit-pick everything.
What do you mean by mode switching? The R7 has a dedicated switch for photo and video models? Or are you talking about switching AV, TV, M modes? I hear you about the battery grip. It would for sure be front heavy. Maybe there will be a third party that will step up and made a battery grip. Or worst to worst you could just screw a weight to the bottom of the camera but i'm sure that would be ridiculous. The R3 is a good action shooter but i'm sure you're interested in the R7 because of the reach you get with the crop factor or you probably would have gotten an R3 already. It's a tough call. You can always cancel your R7 order and wait to see what the CZcams reviews say about it and see if a third party makes a battery grip. . . . hahahaha. Ya first world problems. Too much cool gear. Thanks for the comment.
The electronic modes in the R5 and R save most of the options for both photo and video. C1, C2, C3, TV, AV and M. 12 custom slots. Being the Media Director for a Church, I shoot in the same rooms all the time. Each location has a custom setup. Livestreams are setup in 10 seconds. That's what made the R6 a non-starter. I was getting the R7 for the reach...
Ok I see that makes sense. That would be handy for sure.
I'm not sure to what to buy actually, but I think I will buy the EOS R because I travel a lot around the world and I love doing photos of landscape and nature, so I suppose that this is the best option.
What do you think?
I do even a lot of photos of wild animals, sooooo I'm will unsure about what to buy ahahahah
I see why you are having trouble deciding. The EOS R is better for landscapes but at the same time it doesn't have any animal eye detection so tracking animals with AF might be a problem. But that really comes down to how fast the animals are moving. If they are moving normally the EOS R will do fine. It has a feature where you can tap on the screen to tell it to track an object. But if you're trying to track birds or running animals it won't keep up. The choice for you is what do you value more? If tracking the eyes of fast moving animals is more important than go with the R7 for anything else the R is good.
@@vaskoobscura_ i think I will go in the same way to the Eos R, because I usually spend a lot of time in "crazy place", for example I've spend more than 1 year in the Nordic pole and the landscape were amazing, but sadly my camera wasn't enough good to capture the soul of the place.
So I will have to hide and wait for the animals and do more stealthy photos.
Thanks you so much for helping me with this big choice!!
thxxxxxx
You're welcome.
Which one is better for wedding video and photography?
For wedding video the R7 is much easier to use and has the better auto focus. If you use the R for wedding video you'll need a gimbal because it doesn't have IBIS. The EOS R is full frame so it's much better in low light. For photography the EOS R has a better looking image and you can get a shallower depth of field and beautiful bokeh.
@@vaskoobscura_ Thank you so much
u forgot that the r has a crop in video, so u shouldnt get a shallower depth of field there. the r has a higher bitrate - so i think it has little higher video quality...
Technically you're right if you only shoot in 4k. But the 1080p on the EOS R is really good so you can shoot in 1080 and export in 4k. For CZcams you and other social media you can't tell the difference between 1080 exported in 4k from video shot in 4k. It's a nice little trick you can pull off with the R if you want to keep that shallow depth of field.
Although I’m totally on the full frame side but the 8fps on the R is not working for me. I used to have the R but ended up selling it. But since this is a new camera with new sensor the capabilities are far better. The R is good with low light photography. I here that the R7 is compatible with the R lens mount system. But I wonder if they will ever have a speedbooster to give a full frame look like with the m50🤷🏾♂️
Thank you for the comment. Yes the new RF lenses fit on all the new R bodies including the R7 and R10. You just have to multiply the focal length by 1.6 on the lens to get the full frame equivalent on aps-c. Speaking of a speed booster Canon made that speed booster for the C70 so maybe they'll make one for the R7 too. But I'm sure if there is enough demand a third party will probably make one. Let's see what happens.
@@vaskoobscura_ that’s so true, just like viltrox. Speaking of which, Viltrox has an 85MM 1.8 for the RF mount. I have not seen any good videos with detail. Think it’ll be good content if you did a review? If you haven’t already lol
Actually funny you mention that. I wanted to start doing lens reviews on the channel and that Viltrox 85 was on my watch list. I'm going to start reviewing lenses I own than expand to brands like Viltrox and lowa. It's gonna be fun to review lenses.
@@vaskoobscura_ SOUNDS AWESOME!! THANK YOU!!!
@@vaskoobscura_ THat is a great idea!!!! I love Christopher Frost's web channel, and he is kind of old within the field of rare-vintage-new and old lenses! Check on him and you will see that his reviews really dives you in even if they are tech reviews as well ! Have a great day Vasko!
I have 2 EOS Rs the photo quality is still amazing, plus it was amazing (Still is) for it's 10 bit video. You can get them used for 1,000 ~ 1,200 used from people who've moved on and it's an amazing bargain for a FF mirrorless. Have shot weddings, corporate events with it and I now have the R5C and honestly for stills its not THAT amazing of a leap.
100% agree with you. The R is the best bang for the buck FF camera in Canon's line up. It has the 5D mkIV sensor in it which was designed for professional use and a shutter rated for 200,000 shots. It's literally a pro level camera at an entry level price. Thanks for the comment and welcome to the channel. Appreciate it.
My current camera has 8 mega pixels, I don't think it matters which I go for
lol. Ya either is a step up for you. Enjoy whichever camera you end up getting.
I need ur help tho. Im a dentist my duty is to shoot the teeth and the gum. Im looking for camera that could help to snap a sharp picture shows me all the detail and structure of the tooth as well as the other tissue. Could u plz lead me.? Is it R or R7 or R5?
You know what's crazy I got this same question last week form somebody who needed to shoot dental photos. They used an EOS R and an 100mm macro lens to take the shots from what I remember.
Keep in mind I don't know much about this type of photography but if I got hired tomorrow to shoot detailed shots of teeth I would go with a high megapixel full frame camera and a macro lens. The highest megapixel full frame camera that Canon has is the EOS R5 (amzn.to/3AhsoXp) at 45 megapixels it captures a lot of detail. And for the lens I would get the RF 100mm macro f2.8 L (amzn.to/3nfzfc4). Than I would get a macro flash that mounts to the fount of the lens to make sure the teeth are lit up properly. Something like this would work (amzn.to/3HM9iKC) That's the setup I would use if I was shooting teeth. If that was helpful for you help me out by leaving some more comments on other videos :) It really helps me grow the channel. Thank you. :)
Thank u sir for your responce. However, did they inform u about there feedback of the image quality and resolution? I mean who is using the eos R!
I don't know who they are anymore to be honest or I would have linked it for you. I know the comment was left on a video about the EOS R. The only way for me to find it now would be to scroll through the comments.
For sports and stuff like that. What “stuff”?
Thanks for the comment.
Which Camera is better for Vlogging?
The R7 would be the better choice because it has IBIS. If you're going to be walking around holding a camera IBIS is a must have. The EOS R will be better on low light and it has digital IS which crops into your video in order to stabilize. I might be picking up an R7 soon. If I do I'll make a comparison video for you about vlogging.
Which one best?
There is no such thing as best. They are two different tools for two different types of work. The right one for you is the one that fits best into your style of shooting :) Hope that helps.
You can set your R to 1.6 crop. You're welcome.
hahahaha. Thanks.
R7 is better in everything.. R advantage is only it is full frame
Full Frame is a huge advantage if you're a photographer only. Wish we could take the features of the R7 and put them in the R.
@@vaskoobscura_ correct bro
Hummm the R7 can’t take wedding or portraits pictures??
For sure it can. It's a very capable camera. Only issue you'd run into is getting ultra wide shots.
@@vaskoobscura_ .. ahhhh even with a wide lens 🙃😩
Is the R7 10bit and the R 8Bit ?
You got it. The R7 is 10 bit and the R is 8 bit. However, the EOS R can send a 10 bit signal out from the HDMI port so with an eternal recorder you can get 10 bit video from the EOS R.
Watching your whole video it feels like the R7 does a lot less of photography and the R alot more. Hmmmm.
They are both capable photo cameras but the R7 definitely has the better video functionality. They are different tools.
Totaly diferent cameras..
Totally for different uses but there is a lot of crossover. Thanks for the comment.
Canon m6 mark 11 or canon m7
I'll be honest I don't know much about those cameras I've never used them.
Well Try Fujifilm X-H2S, Its Autofocus is better and its best APSC camera with 4k120 fps, prores raw.
I appreciate the comment. I hope to see a good camera from Fuji. Let's wait and see what happens after the camera gets into the hands of testers. It certainly looks really good right now. :)
How can you make a video about which to buy but you begin the video by saying R7 shoots 15 frames per second OR SOMETHING… how do you expect any credibility
I also said I'm not going to go over the specs of the cameras in the video. There are so many videos out there about how many frames per second the R7 can shoot with a shutter and mechanical and how bad the warping is when shooting things that move at high speed because the sensor isn't stacked. It's been talked about so much including in the previous R7 video I made. I didn't want to go over all that info in this video. I just wanted to look at what applications these cameras would be better at. But thanks for the comment.
get rid of the windows !!
You don't like natural light? Makes a beautiful edge light that separates me from the background.
@@vaskoobscura_ eyes will tend to go to the brightest highlights sorry !!
Technically you're right that is a good point. I'd never do that on a client gig. But at the same time it's probably better than looking at my face for 13min. lol 🤣
To be honest I'm always playing around with lighting. I rarely use the same lighting setup twice. It's part of the fun of CZcams for me. Shooting the same look over and over again gets stale. But I do appreciate the comment.
@@vaskoobscura_ true haha !!!
We? You and who else?
Right ok good question. Thanks for the comment.
None, you should buy Fujifilm
Honestly as soon as Fuji fixes their auto focus issues i'll probably buy a Fuji. I have an x100v and love the photos i've been getting from it. Fuji is just on another level but that AF is such a turnoff. Curious to see how the new XH2 will handle. Hopefully Fuji has upgraded the AF system. Looking forward to the reviews coming out.
@@vaskoobscura_ true. It is kinda annoying we can't get the perfect mainstream camera, there's always compromises somewhere.
Fuji is excellent for people who wants to step their game up from other cameras but their AF is a pain in the rear. Sony have god like AF but their colors are flat and dull. Canon made decent and the most ergonomics cameras i've ever tried but their cripple hammer makes them look like the Apple of camera world. And nikon... yeah you know how it goes..
You just bla bla theoretically. There aren't any shots taken with R & R7 for comparison in your video. It's just a complete waste of time.
And I suppose you still only read books with pictures too? Check the date of the video it was made before the R7 started shipping but none of the topics covered were particularly complex any photographer would be able to understand the concepts without needing pictures. Thanks for the comment.