It is true that, as a general rule, once you pass V1 you are committed to going flying. The flip side is that that only applies when the aircraft is actually capable of flight. In this case, however, the pilots were unaware the aircraft was incapable of flying, and therefore, continuing the take-off attempt was technically the prescribed procedure on paper. The error occurred both in allowing the icy condition to develop and then in not recognizing the nature of the problem and the resulting inability of the aircraft to fly. Once it became obvious the aircraft was not going to gain altitude, I personally think that is the point that you accept the fact you do not have enough space for an RTO but make the attempt anyway. For me that point came as soon as they lost what little height they had the first time.
Of course. You always reject a takeoff after v1 speed if the plane isn't gonna fly. Everybody or most probably would of survived if warning against selling to property was enforced.
there is a general notion as far as i understand that even if past V1, if a pilot feels the aircraft cannot safely take off still it is accepted if they then reject the take off even if it leads to a crash, their was a spantax flight for example that the pilot rejected take off past v1, and the investigators stated that given his training, the fault, ect, it was reasonable for him to have aborted it even though it led to a subsequent overrun and crash.
Audio quality is kind of bad. I recommend keeping the audio entirely as uncompressed WAV files, and dropping it straight into an MKV container file as its audio track. That way when it gets uploaded to CZcams it's only ever been compressed one time. It seems like what you're doing now is compressing it before uploading it meaning it is getting compressed multiple times. Another common mistake people make is converting the audio into a different compressed format after extracting it from the CZcams video, or even transcoding it as a part of the extraction process, meaning that it might be getting compressed at least three times by the time it's uploaded.
@@vince2k09 no. I know what I'm talking about; I've heard the audio from other sources in much higher quality. This audio specifically was transcoded multiple times hence its quality degradation. I'm not saying the quality in general is bad. I'm specifically comparing the quality of this to other sources of the same audio. Yes I know that the original audio was not perfectly high quality, because of the noise filtering they used and all the resonances in the plane. That's not what I'm talking about at all though. I'm talking about all the obvious compression artefacts.
@@vince2k09 czcams.com/video/kIEjuZlaD7Y/video.html is the source I have enhanced the audio even further for the CZcamsr Alex Hoe and he's going to upload it synced to the animation along with properly translated captions. We're just waiting on the translator.
@@vince2k09 also it's not that CZcams transcodes the audio multiple times, it only encodes the audio once. But people's typical workflow for downloading stuff off CZcams and putting it into a video causes the audio to get transcoded multiple times.
@@bluehorseshoe9216 yes i know, there was ice on the Wings but rejecting a takeoff after V1 when they knew that the plane isbt flying could have been better
there's a much better version of this that doesn't edit out half the CCTV footage and you can see the plane from a long way off bouncing up and down on the runway
Crew: 05 right, 2100, thank you, have a good day! Almaty Tower: Bon Voyage! First Officer: V1 First Officer: Rotate! Captain (faint): Oh wow... Captain: What's going on? First Officer: Holy f*ck! [[BANK ANGLE, BANK ANGLE]] Captain: What's going on? First officer: I don't know what's going on, something with stabilizer, fu*k! Captain: Don't do it! First Officer: Sure? Captain: What are you doing? Captain: Come on! Captain: Get out (from the runway), get out! Captain: Do a turn! First Officer: It leans on! (tailstrike) (unintelligible) First Officer (faint): Hold it... Oh damn, go down! Captain: What? First Officer: Full power! Captain: Damn it! [[Unknown Alarm - Master Caution? ]] (Sounds of grunts / groans) (credit to alex for the cvr translation)
they were passed V1 speed, if they aborted they go off the end of the runway, so a pilot would never abort after V1, they were expecting it to get airborne
@@herobo123456 _"so a pilot would never abort after V1"_ Not never. Almost always, yes. But there are certain rare situations where pilots will abort _after_ V1, including the loss of all engines and/or flight controls.
Murat Ganievich, the Captain of Bekrut Air flight 2100 was crushed by the house due to debris. Now The copilot, i forgot his name. Was also killed by debris. You can see the impact already looks bad. The crash photos are really graphic. The cockpit was smashed. They have to even break it to open, sadly 11 died in total including Crew member. May they rest in peace.
Always abort takeoff after V1 if its not going up. Dont half guess your takeoff, you might hit the fence ahead, plane will get damaged but no one would die. V1 is not the point of no return, a stall at takeoff is way worse
These pilots must be idiots. If ice is on the wings the ice will have to be removed or the craft will not be able to fly and stall as the ice messes with the air flow.
This was not pilot error. They had no choice but to climb. The flaps had issues. Stop disrespecting pilots attempting to save lives when you don't even know what was happening.
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Transcript in russian:
0:11 "80 knots....."
0:12 "Check"
0:29 "V1, Rotate"
0:36 "Ух, ты!"
0:38 "Чё такое?"
0:39 "Твою мать!"
0:40 GPWS: Bank Angle. Bank Angle
0:41 "Чё такое?"
0:42 "Не знаю, чё такое, стабилизатор, блять, тормозим нахуй..."
0:45 "Не надо!"
0:46 "А?"
0:47 "Ой, блять"
0:48 "Чё ты делаешь? Поехали!"
0:50 "Ушли, ушли!"
0:52 "Убирай шасси!"
1:00 "Блять..."
1:01 "А?"
1:07 "Газ!"
1:10 "Ёб твою МАТЬ, А!"
1:24 "БЛЯТЬ, ААХ"
1:26 "ЁБ ТВОЮ...ААЙ"
1:28 (sound of impact)
So the pilots cursing each other at the end? That is very depressing read
@@ishadorman5682 they don't cursi g each other, but they said swear words at the end
Huh, i see, then why in google translate 1:10 was translated fk your mther?
So it's just grown up dudes roasting each other to the end
@@namento45_ytno
It is true that, as a general rule, once you pass V1 you are committed to going flying. The flip side is that that only applies when the aircraft is actually capable of flight. In this case, however, the pilots were unaware the aircraft was incapable of flying, and therefore, continuing the take-off attempt was technically the prescribed procedure on paper. The error occurred both in allowing the icy condition to develop and then in not recognizing the nature of the problem and the resulting inability of the aircraft to fly. Once it became obvious the aircraft was not going to gain altitude, I personally think that is the point that you accept the fact you do not have enough space for an RTO but make the attempt anyway. For me that point came as soon as they lost what little height they had the first time.
Of course. You always reject a takeoff after v1 speed if the plane isn't gonna fly. Everybody or most probably would of survived if warning against selling to property was enforced.
there is a general notion as far as i understand that even if past V1, if a pilot feels the aircraft cannot safely take off still it is accepted if they then reject the take off even if it leads to a crash, their was a spantax flight for example that the pilot rejected take off past v1, and the investigators stated that given his training, the fault, ect, it was reasonable for him to have aborted it even though it led to a subsequent overrun and crash.
The aircraft can not fly with ice on wings, R.I.P to the 13 fatalities.
Russian airlines need better safety part regulations
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@@wee1575 and its Kazakhstan, happened exactly in my country, in my city and the 1st 4 letters being my letters 💀
Probably coz if affects lift? Yes, ice no good except vodka.
@@wee1575 its Kazakh and it was just Bek Air. The government shut them down after
Although they were past V1 they should have taken a risk and aborted the takeoff after stalling. It’s better than veering off into someone’s house.
Try to be in the seats of the pilots, you must understand the PURE terror and the confusion.
i donnt know much about flying but surely hes allowed to use the half of the runway right?
Audio quality is kind of bad. I recommend keeping the audio entirely as uncompressed WAV files, and dropping it straight into an MKV container file as its audio track. That way when it gets uploaded to CZcams it's only ever been compressed one time. It seems like what you're doing now is compressing it before uploading it meaning it is getting compressed multiple times. Another common mistake people make is converting the audio into a different compressed format after extracting it from the CZcams video, or even transcoding it as a part of the extraction process, meaning that it might be getting compressed at least three times by the time it's uploaded.
Its jut the cvr quality of the plane, its Not compressed at all, many cvr's are Like that beides on newer plane's
@@vince2k09 no. I know what I'm talking about; I've heard the audio from other sources in much higher quality. This audio specifically was transcoded multiple times hence its quality degradation. I'm not saying the quality in general is bad. I'm specifically comparing the quality of this to other sources of the same audio. Yes I know that the original audio was not perfectly high quality, because of the noise filtering they used and all the resonances in the plane. That's not what I'm talking about at all though. I'm talking about all the obvious compression artefacts.
@@R2Bl3nd oh, okay
I didnt knew that the CZcamsr transcoded it multiple times. Can you maybe sende ne the/a link to the Higher quality CVR?
@@vince2k09 czcams.com/video/kIEjuZlaD7Y/video.html is the source
I have enhanced the audio even further for the CZcamsr Alex Hoe and he's going to upload it synced to the animation along with properly translated captions. We're just waiting on the translator.
@@vince2k09 also it's not that CZcams transcodes the audio multiple times, it only encodes the audio once. But people's typical workflow for downloading stuff off CZcams and putting it into a video causes the audio to get transcoded multiple times.
Big hemlock!
I am wondering since this Video is out, have they tried to reject the takeoff and If Not, why didnt they reject the takeoff?
Nevermind, they have Passes V1 at around 130KTS i think, they would have not been able to Stop in time
So the co pilot suggested to abort the takeoff but the capitan said “no need” and continued the attempt to takeoff
@@vince2k09 if the plane won't fly you abort no matter the speed...
@@bluehorseshoe9216 yes i know, there was ice on the Wings but rejecting a takeoff after V1 when they knew that the plane isbt flying could have been better
@@bluehorseshoe9216you can abort after if the plane absolutely will not fly.
The fact they said fuck you then the copilot said fuck you too got me dying 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
How is the plane drifting in the snow?
Because the pilots wanted to drift one last time before the end of the
there's a much better version of this that doesn't edit out half the CCTV footage and you can see the plane from a long way off bouncing up and down on the runway
if you look closely at the instruments, the plane was only going 120 it needs 160
So sad... Another 3 miles and they might have been able to take off.
funny, you should be a clown but with salary.
I saw this footage befor i taught the crash was not to bad and i saw the last footage and im shock by that
same
Can anyone translate the pilots' words into English?
I have on my channel
Crew: 05 right, 2100, thank you, have a good day!
Almaty Tower: Bon Voyage!
First Officer: V1
First Officer: Rotate!
Captain (faint): Oh wow...
Captain: What's going on?
First Officer: Holy f*ck!
[[BANK ANGLE, BANK ANGLE]]
Captain: What's going on?
First officer: I don't know what's going on, something with stabilizer, fu*k!
Captain: Don't do it!
First Officer: Sure?
Captain: What are you doing?
Captain: Come on!
Captain: Get out (from the runway), get out!
Captain: Do a turn!
First Officer: It leans on! (tailstrike)
(unintelligible)
First Officer (faint): Hold it... Oh damn, go down!
Captain: What?
First Officer: Full power!
Captain: Damn it!
[[Unknown Alarm - Master Caution? ]]
(Sounds of grunts / groans)
(credit to alex for the cvr translation)
Turn on Captions.
Basically they are insulting each other and eachothers mother
@@dJb14c4g0xU More like insulting the plane's mother. Metaphorically.
why didn't they abort as soon as the first stall occurred?
they were passed V1 speed, if they aborted they go off the end of the runway, so a pilot would never abort after V1, they were expecting it to get airborne
@@herobo123456 _"so a pilot would never abort after V1"_ Not never. Almost always, yes. But there are certain rare situations where pilots will abort _after_ V1, including the loss of all engines and/or flight controls.
It was already too late. You can not stop something like this.
@@Religious_man are you a pilot?
@@ValiantKnight7983
Thank God I'm not. If I was, I would be traveling alone or traveling with a loved one.
"The plane drifting"
My demonic humor: *plays deja vu*
Pilots alive?
no
Neither of the two pilots died in hospital after one after the incident.
but F/O is alive but injured idk whats his day today
Murat Ganievich, the Captain of Bekrut Air flight 2100 was crushed by the house due to debris. Now The copilot, i forgot his name. Was also killed by debris. You can see the impact already looks bad. The crash photos are really graphic. The cockpit was smashed. They have to even break it to open, sadly 11 died in total including Crew member. May they rest in peace.
@@GHOSTZILLA_GOJI thank you for this information
Always abort takeoff after V1 if its not going up. Dont half guess your takeoff, you might hit the fence ahead, plane will get damaged but no one would die. V1 is not the point of no return, a stall at takeoff is way worse
why'd they keep trying and not abort?
They were at 130knts, if they aborted the takeoff, they would still overrun the runway and maybe collide somewhere worse
The plane just drifting
after this video i seriously have a fear that a fokker 100 is gonna crash into my house
Get out! get out! Out of the runway not the cabin
Yea
These pilots must be idiots. If ice is on the wings the ice will have to be removed or the craft will not be able to fly and stall as the ice messes with the air flow.
1:18 Drifto Momento
He tokyo drift lol
Game
Pilot error, he should have aborted even after v1. Trying multiple times to take off even while skidding the tail down the runway.
Nope. The plane would've skidded completely off the runway and ended up somewhere far worse. V1 is the point of no return.
Captain rules so stupid so junk. Co captain RIP. What a mistake he was jung drunk or something elese ?
hes not drunk theres someting wrong with the flaps
This was not pilot error. They had no choice but to climb. The flaps had issues. Stop disrespecting pilots attempting to save lives when you don't even know what was happening.
Build a fuel free aircraft and save millions of people. Use alternative sources of energy for aviation industry.
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Yeah, SAS said that in 2050 its entire fleet will consist of electric aircraft
Or maybe you should just learn the basics of how things work. 😕
How Human Airplane:Easy!
How Furry Airplane:
Pilot error and exacerbated by illegal real estate caused the plane to be badly damaged, causing loss of life.