6 Things They Don't Tell You About Teaching In Australia
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- In this video learn 6 things they don't tell you about teaching in Australia. If you are thinking of the differences teaching in the UK vs Australia then I will share them all with you. This video will talk about the Australian teacher life of an Australian teacher. This open and honest Australian teacher vlog covers all the main reasons why I teach in Australia. in 2020 we emigrate to Australia from the UK and I have been learning how to teach in Australia from UK. If you're thinking about move to Australia 2024 then learn how to teach in Australia as a foreigner.
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The blackboards were all green when I was in school 😂
Did the same degree as yourself and PGCE, then moved to Australia and taught. First jobs was in the NT, Australia, Wonderful experience. I was willing to go to a remote / regional area. After that I secured PR, then Citizenship. Still in education and teaching in Australia 20 years on. Yes, I had to work hard, persevere, some sacrifices. Was told in the UK ... you won't do this, you should not be doing this etc etc. Sooo negative from people who has never been to Australia - funny, never heard from them since! I ignored the negativity, kept focussed. Life many things in life ... the more you put things in, the more you get out of it.
Good on you. I bet those people who were so negative toward you are still whinging and whining and doing the same old thing. I applaud your attitude
@@infin8ee yep, pretty much so I hear on and off. Some may I say were a couple of academics.
Your life as a teacher will vary (greatly) depending on the school you teach at. Teachers will never be paid what they're worth but that's something they're going to have to live with.
No one is paid what they think they're worth.
I know what teachers are paid and believe me when I say that in Qld at least they are paid well.
When we came to Oz in 74 I was 16 and had to get a job. Most high school kids of the day would complete the Vocational Guidance test, don't know if its still a thing. Anyway my dad was aircraft engineer so I learned all things mechanical growing up in Scotland. So they sent me to do the vocational guidance test and with it being so accurate they determined that I had no aptitude for all things mechanical and I would make a great teacher. Now back then in NSW they had teachers college where those not able to go to university, because you couldn't afford it or were just too dumb, they'd send you off for four years and teach you to be a teacher, in my case the VGT said I'd be a good history or geography teacher. So I went for year then got an apprenticeship as a fitter/turner and never went back.
Western Australia is currently running a recruitment offer in the UK and Ireland for teachers. Must do at least 3 preferably 4 years in a "Hard to Staff" [H2S] school. These are in most cases only H2S because they are remote or in small towns quite a distance from a regional city. So the benefit is that all the red tape and much of the expenses are taken care of by the WA government. :)
Australia's migration policy won't allow teachers from the UK with a 3 Year Teaching Degree to apply for any visas. No wonder they are deemed hard to staff, as many teachers (including my partner) can't even apply, despite with teach experience of over 10yrs+. Maybe if they changed their policy they would attract more teachers for the UK
@@williamstrong7758 There are teachers here who did the 3-year degree before it was a Bachelor of Ed. They were given I think [dont quote me!] 6-7 years to upskill and do the extra courses to be in line with the new policy. I wonder as this is a new initiative by the WA govt there will be an allowance made if going via this sponsorship arrangement?
Yes once you're in Australia, some of the states will allow you to teach with a 3yr teaching degree, if you agree to complete your 4th year of study. However, you can't launch a visa application from offshore with a 3yr degree. So unless your partner has a different occupation on the skill list, or you go back to do a 4th year of study (masters or PGCE) costing time and money, then you can't migrate. Considering teaching standards is regarded as being higher in the UK, its ridiculous they don't accept the 3yr teaching degree. No wonder there is a shortage of teachers down under, no primary school teachers from the UK can apply given under the current visa rules
I just discovered your channel and just of love it! I am an English teacher in the French Education system and I’m looking into migrating to Australia as a French teacher! Thanks for your code on the migration website 😊
Back in the 1970's Australia had 3 terms running early Feb - May, May - Aug/Sep and Sep - Dec with mid-term being one Monday. Summer holidays were the Wednesday or Thursday before Christmas to the first Tuesday in February. 10 week terms, I wish!
I find the difference is extra school week's impact on the Christmas holidays. We used to finish quite a bit before Christmas, now it can be as late as Dec 22. Now we go back to school that bit earlier as well, it seems to be the hottest time of the year. We didn't have a midterm in Sydney schools I was in.
@@Bellas1717 In the UK summer holidays used to be 8 weeks. Some academic somewhere decided this was too long. As a student first and now a teacher, I beg to differ!
@@NMOBrien Haha, I'm with you!!
Went from 13-15 week term, to 10 weeks. Thought I'd won the lottery. (NSW, reintroduced 1987)
Thanks for sharing guys, I had no idea about the degree thing!
Happy to help!
You sound like a kind teacher
Thanks for this idea. I am actually a Math Teacher with 4 years of teaching experience I also taught other subjects like Computer literacy, English, science, chemistry, and physics. and I am quite interested in exploring opportunities in Australia.
Fun fact - we wound up with 4 terms because 3 terms were considered to be too many.😁
We went from 3 terms to 2 semesters, and then the semesters were considered too long so were each split into 2 terms. I do vaguely remember the changeover(s).
10 week terms might seem long - but how about that Christmas break, hey?
It had more to do with that dreadful long winter term. And flu season.
@@roseannebyrne7233 This is Queensland, mate. "Dreadful long winter" isn't a thing here. Flu season here in SEQ is usually almost spring - Ekka Flu is particularly popular.
We get more time off school in summer than in winter.
@@itsamindgame9198 well it was tge reason we were given in ACT/NSW. I’d assume you just followed us.
Assumed!
@@roseannebyrne7233 Yes, well, we know what "assume" does. 🙂 We didn't adopt DST. We abolished death duties when the other states were keeping them. We had government (pseudo-)funded public health care when it didn't exist elsewhere in the country. Generally, the states do their own things. Actual dates for school breaks are still all over the place.
As an Australian, I can tell you that Australia does have one of the best quality of life ratings and anyone coming from the USA will definitely have a better life in Australia. Australia does also have more public holidays than the majority of other countries, so that does mean a lot of 3 day weekends. The best way to explain the Australian culture is to realise that every state is basically a different country and therefore every state has different strengths and weaknesses so picking the state that best suits your preferences is essential for your enjoyment of life. Personally, I would love to see more poms and yanks moving to Australia, so we have more people to make fun of. Just remember life is too short to take it seriously, so just have fun because nothing else truly matters.
Not sure we need more Yanks but more Brits would be ideal!
@@jenniferharrison8915yeah more Poms ,Italians and Greeks ,and much less of the other type's that seem to be flooding our once great country, which I can't mention because youtube doesn't like free speech lol😂
@@aussiebornandbred Yes! 😁👍
Also one of the least affordable places to live.
@micsunday14 Actually, it is more affordable than the majority of European countries and the USA. I'm on a disability pension and receive around $600 per week and I rent a 3 bedroom house on a quarter acre block less than a 2 minute walk from a major shopping centre and public transport hub. After I pay my bills and food, I am left with just over $100 to do with whatever I want. Yes, inner city costs more and cities like Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are expensive but no where near the costs of large American or European cities.
I'm not a teacher but in Canada we have 2 terms or semesters, September to December and January to the end of June. We have 2 weeks of at Christmas, 1 week in March and 2 months off in the summer July & August. Plus a few Professional Development days so the teachers get to meetings etc. Teachers are paid really well but they have had a few strikes over the years to get better wages.
I hope this was interesting to you, but I would much rather Australia's climate than Canada's.
I began my full time teaching career in the 70s and reduced to substitute work in 2005. In the middle 1980s I moved to Japan to teach. Spent 6 years there then returned to Oz. I’ve certainly/ seen many changes to the system during my 45 years
Hey Ross, enjpying the videos you put on here bro.
I reckon it would be good if you did one on Brisbane suburbs, would be good to get a fellow poms view on life on Brisbane 🤙
Great suggestion!
I am currently doing pgce with qts primary early years in uk and will love to move to Australia immediately.
Do it! Message us on Instagram and I can help you out
Hey Ross, Hannah from uk again.. Planning our dream life in brisbane.. Please can you recommend schools.. Are there more better schools?
10 weeks? In Trinidad we have 3 terms with the longest being 15 weeks without any break that runs from September to December followed by 3 weeks holiday, then January to March or April followed by 2 weeks holiday for Easter, after that we go till early July and get our long 8 week holiday.
You're a champion 🏆
I've taught for 21 years and have been in Australia for 14 of those so what the UK is like now is not as familiar as Australia. In response to this video:
1. Many schools in the UK have changed to a 4 term system. I left just as my school was changing to a 4 term system. It's less common but it is in the UK.
2. The cost of living in Australia is higher but, agreed, they do pay better here although your contact hours are one of the highest in the West.
3. Less exams? Depends really. Queensland only just moved to having an external exam at the end of Year 12 so that may be your experience. There's OLNA and NAPLAN (like SATs or whatever they're called in the UK which you don't have to mark). If you teach Year 11 and 12 in Australia, you could be marking tests/exams every 3 weeks in some subjects in some states.
4. If you are in the state education system, you are in a regional or remote school then, yes, it is highly likely that you will be asked to teach other subjects. In the private system, they like experienced specialist teachers as well as 'jack of all trades' but much less likely to be asked to teach outside your specialism.
A few additional points:
(*) The Teacher Registration Body here requires you pay an annual subscription. It's around the $100 mark annually and they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!... this is the Australian equivalent of the General Teaching Council or GTC if you remember them. Thankfully the UK saw sense and removed this as it was "an unnecessary level of bureaucracy". The money is tax-deductible so you get it back but you have to wait until you do your return to get it back (I'm unsure if you get it all back or just 30%).
(*) Far less teachers here have "drank the Kool-Aid". Teaching colleagues of mine are much more moderated in their adoption of "innovative pedagogy" than their UK counterparts. This in and of itself makes my job more bearable.
(*) No OfSTED. Less observation of your classroom practise. (Again, refreshing. At one point as a HoD, I was observed doing an observation on a member of my department in the UK. Ridiculous but true.). There's more trust from your immediate line managers in my experience.
(*) All of Australia is mad on sport. Everything comes second to sport. This will remove significant portions of your students at the drop of a hat and nobody bats an eyelid. Sport is sacrosanct. You cannot question it and Australians will look at you blankly if you do. They just don't get it.
If it's tax deductable the amount you get back will vary depending on how much you earn.
You only get the income tax you would have paid back
They say CV in where I work in Australia. Maybe resume is a QLD thing.
It is a bit.
Mix of both teaching in Sydney
We say both in South Australia
I'm in NSW, resumes are nationwide.
@@trekkie-cat I think in Australia CV was more for academic careers (and included publications etc) with Resume for non-academic careers. Resume is more common here (SEQ) but CV should still be reasonably well known.
G'day Ross, I've got a fun one for you. I never went to University (well I got a diploma but I don't think that counts, not from a university.), however, I taught for several years in a High School, Adult Education (TAFE) and a few years teaching kids at risk. What kind of teacher was I? Cheers mate, (and I hope you have fun with this).
Good video, Ross. I’m Australian born and did my undergraduate education degree at CQU Rockhampton. It was a four year course (full time). I was in my last year when the university changed the course back to three years. That was in 2002. As you can see, it’s been a while. Not sure if you can answer this, have universities changed back to four years…again?
I think some may do 3 years, but to qualify as a teacher for AITSL you need a 4 year degree equivalent
Yes. You can’t teach except as relief without a four year degree.
My mum graduated teaching in 2005 and it was 4 years. I graduated in 2015 and still 4 years.
Wanna move out once I’ve completed my PGDE in primary
I have the best job in the school: librarian. All of the benefits of working in the education sector, none of the grading, mandatory weekly meetings, professional development, curriculum compliance, and all of that other stuff.
Yes, but you’re also not a teacher
@@timrichmond1161 yes, that's the point.
@@timrichmond1161 most librarians in schools are teacher librarians. So qualified to teach. In the systems I worked in.
Thanks, I’m aware of that, Man Splaining much!?
Have you seen a naplan test or seen the national curriculum or some of the other paperwork? If not, look now.
The curriculum is insane. Canberra uses it but we had to cut lots out. Impossible to teach it all. Other states only use it as a base I believe.
:O "Less exams"????
There was an old saying, that every teacher is a teacher of English.
Fewer
I didn't say I was a good teacher
Hey, Ross! Great video!
Help me out with this: how many hours do you (and average teachers) work?
53.7 hours for classroom teachers a week.
@@roseannebyrne7233 hi! How are you? Are you a teacher in Australia? I’m planning to move there and I’d like to know a few things about the role. Could you help me?
@@danielferreirabraga was a teacher, now retired for about nine years. Your best bet is to choose a State (States run education). Each state will have an education portal like this one for New South Wales. education.nsw.gov.au/. The other states follow the same url format. Victoria will be VIC, Queensland = QLD, Canberra = ACT, South Australia = SA, Western Australia = WA, Northern Territory = NT, Tasmania =TAS. There’s also a separate Catholic system that’s big, and other religious private fee'd systems. Research research research.
It really depends on you as a teacher. I teach high school and work 7.30 till 4.30 most days and refuse to work weekends. I work with others who work 7-7 and weekends. And others who do 8-3.30. our contracts require 30 mins before and after bell time. As long as you are prepared and ready and onsite for your contract hours no one really cares.
@@nicolematthews1581 thank you very much!
Wish you were my teacher
Forget moving forward
Stuck is our speciality
Here in the UK experienced teachers are discriminated against employment wise due to budgets. Would I have a fair chance of getting a job in Australia? How stressful is getting your qualifications recognised? Many thanks. I’m really hoping to follow my dreams . ❤
Lots of contracts across most states. Which means you don’t get paid in breaks depending on the State. Watch the detail carefully.
@@roseannebyrne7233 This used to be the case for all teachers. Teachers used to be payed during term time only and they were able to work other jobs out of term. Same in the UK. Some of my teachers used to drive taxis out of term time and no doubt other did other jobs. At some point, they decided to spread the term time money over 12 months. The contracts you refer to are therefore paying those teachers at a lower rate than the FT teachers they work alongside. Criminal!
Our local schools are always looking for senior, experienced teachers. And High school Maths teachers are in huge demand.
Follow your dreams and don't put it off. Time marches on and before you know it it'll be too late. All the very best
Lots of work in NSW. Talk with NESA teacher accreditation for the approval process. In NSW as long as you have a 12 month contract for the next year you will be paid for the holidays. Always go for 12 month contracts. When answering job advertisements answer in detail the selection criteria listed in the advertisement. So many don't so don't even get looked at. Jobfeed NSW is a good place to start looking for government jobs.
Apparently teachers said it was racist to use chalk on a black board, so now they use red marker pen on a white board, because that's not racist?
Have they banned the "black"board now? How do you achieve that satisfying queak and use up your frustrations cleaning the board? 😁
Its not banned, just obsolete. Keeping up with technology.
I watched the Inbetweeners tv show, it doesn't look to bad teaching in the UK
The class is as good as the worst
Great maintenance
What's this "resume" malarky? It was usually called a CV or (ooooh, fancy) a Curriculum Vitae throughout my career - which only stopped about ten years ago.
What I am really asking is this: when the hell did French (via the US) start trumping Medieval Latin (via the UK)? Well? I'm waiting.
does it matter? most intelligent people know they mean the same thing. this is australia, a mixture of cultures.
Lol we use cv here as well. It's sort interchangeable
Latin's dead bro
@@ThatJohnstonLife always going to get some one sneak in with the humans. :)
@@ThatJohnstonLife Explain that to your English teacher (Latin and Greek roots), your solicitor, your doctor, your botanist, your biologist. Latin is more alive than ever. Unlike your filthy and vulgar language.
What are the best restraints in austrillia
Bed shackles
Thank you I am a huge fan of your videos@@ThatJohnstonLife
I will go to there win I go to austrillia@@ThatJohnstonLife
Great we're getting teachers from Europe
Where there worse off
And further down the tube than us
Perfect for our children
OMG
There's no teaching
There's supervising if yr lucky
Which were not
Teachers work 31/2 days a week
They do get over it
The terms are too long
There all freeh and happy out of college
Give them 5 and there cold as ice
Because they are not allowed to help the children
Spectrum yes you said it
Fewer exams, I think, you meant to say…
Probably
lol, a rat tail!
Such a pretty hairstyle
Western Australia used to have 3 terms before 2008. The first term was from early to mid Feburary to early May with 4 public holidays.
The second term was a real slog from mid May to early September with only 1 holiday.
The third term was from late September to mid December with 3 holidays and the last 2 weeks doing nothing
2008? I'm in Perth, also lived in the goldfields while at school, and we had 4 terms for most of my schooling, definitely since I was in year 1 and I finished year 12 in 2006.
@@jadestaker5528 Yeah, I thought W.A. changed to 4 terms in 1988 when they brought in the Unit Curriculum. It was my first year at high school.
They are paid so well
They think there too good for it
Driving the Lexus
Doesn't match with Vegemite
A specialist teacher
None of them
They are forced to teach what they don't know
Annoying hell ya
Less exams??? What subjects do you teach? Obviously, not English.
Not the village people 😂😂😂
😆 🤣
I wonder if you’ve ever talked to Australian teachers, particularly primary school teachers. Teachers are leaving in droves and no one wants to do it. Temporary contracts have taken the place of permanency. And holidays? You’re on call except for January which is your actual leave. And no we’re not lazy. You’re painting what I consider to be quite a false picture. There's heaps of assessment, most of it meaningless. And teachers are under so much pressure. It is true you get paid the same Preschool through to Year 12. High school teachers aren’t considered smarter or more qualified.
The amount of work (effort and time) required to produce student report cards is insane. If a teacher says they work 50hrs a week, you'd be a brave individual to call them out in it. I taught for 7.5yrs (early in 2000's) and can still remember 15 or so students that made every struggle worth it.
Omg you are so lucky you are here pommyland is flooded need noahs ark over there 😮
Wouldn't be big enough