In the latest episode of The State of the Republic series, Harsh Mander speaks to Zia us Salam, Shahrukh Alam and Zeyad Masroor Khan. Credit: Karwan e Mohabbat
Muslim population exploded and increased by 48% while Hindu population fell drastically by 8 %. PFI has been circulating a strategy to convert India to an Islamic country by 2047. Indians who want democracy and NOT the Shariat law should agitate for population control. and maintain a balance in population and freeze at 1947 level. London, Germany, Europe have been witnessing demand for Sharat law which will appear in India soon
1:07:12 I don’t know, Which Islam she is talking, Open Society and Blasphemy was not an issue…….Jibreel is laughing in the corner 😂 ? These people are actually doing Taqaiyya.
Pakistan is not a country, it's a mindset. So never say muslims were given a chance to choose between India and Paakistan. the choice was taaken away from Hindus,Sikhs,Christians etc to be peaceful and live amongst muslims and practice their faith, in the northwest fronteir
Ye tumhara haseen,ye tumhara mazaak udaana, ye tumhara nafrat saabit karta hai ke tum kaun ho? Victim card toh tum log khelte ho warna 80% ko dar nahi lagta ? Hazaaro saalo se victim card tumlog khelte chale aa rahe ho , babur se leke aurangzeb ka raag kaun alaapta rahta hai? Mandiro ko musalmano ne toda ,ye kahke kaun rota rahta hai?
@@Indianman536 mandiro ko muslim ne thoda h ye khud Auranjeb ki jivni m likha h Delhi k Qutub minar m likha h Kai muslims the pehle Unhone khud apni kitabo m likha h or sirf bharat nhi har jagah tum logo n Yhi Kia h Persia ka kya haal kia Mar dala parsio kr unka desh cheen liya dunia Ab tum logo ki sacchai jaan chuki h aaj America Europe me kya ho rha h jinhone Ek majhab k logo ko ehsan karke saran di aaj wo log unhi ko maar rahe h America ka flag jala rahe h sharia kanoon ki maang kar rahe h bolo
@@Indianman536 tum or Kon hmne sach bola 40 cr hone se bad bhi khud ko minorities bolte ho aaj tk kbi Kisi parsi jain Sikh jain Buddha Christian roya victim card khela minorities ka
@@Vhshjvbjbcch3457 Aurangzeb Muslim tha toh usne Jo bhi Kia uska jawaab humse logey toh Zara tum bhi jawaab dedo ke 40 hazaar se zyada baudh aur Jain mandiron ko tod kar usko Hindu mandir me convert kyon Kia Gaya? Hindu raja chola Dynasty wala kyon Indonesia me jaakar kabza karke usne wahan ke logon ko zabardasti Hindu banaya? Kyon hazaaro saal se lekar aaj Tak shudro ke saath Hindu atyachaar karte chale aa rahe hain? Kyon ek shudr mahila ko apna breast chupaane ka ijaazat nahin tha? Kya iska jawaad Dene ka zimmedaar tum ho? Main nahi samajhta ke tum ho tab tum Aaj hum musalmano se kyon jawaab maangte ho? Jo jo Hindu rajao ne Kia kya uska jawaab tum dogey? Jinnah ne kya Kia savarkar ne kya Kia uska jawaab na tumko Dena hai aur na mujhe Dena hai. Yaad rakhna ethnicity dharm ke adhaar pe nahin hota geographical location ke adhaar pe hota hai . Pahle Indonesians Hindu then aaj woh musalman Hain toh kya ab Indonesia unka desh nahi Raha ? Ab Indonesia tumhara Desh ho Gaya kyon ke tum Hindu ho? Persians pahle Zoroastrians then ab musalman Hain toh kya ab Iran unka desh nahi Raha? Saudi Arabia UAE Malaysia saare Muslim majority Desh hain toh kya ab main musalman hone ke naate wahan ka naagrik ho Gaya? Kal main Hindu ban jaaon toh kya main original Indian ban jaaonga? Aur kal tum musalman ban gaye toh toh tum Turkish ban jaaogey? Desh aur dharm me fark hota hai? Jinnah ne Aisa experiment Kia tha woh fail ho Gaya! Dharm ke naam pe bangladesh ko bacha nahi paaya. Ab tum log dharm ke naam pe desh banaane chale ho , kaamyab nahi hogey lekin desh ka bura haal ho jaayega. Agar is desh me dharm ke naam par raajneeti nahi hota toh Aaj BJP se sawaal hota ke kyon desh me mahngai aur berozgari badh raha hai? Lekin tum jaiso ke wajah se desh chaahe jitna bhi barbaad ho jaaye tumko aurangzeb ne kya Kia uska bahot tention hai. Jaisey ke musalman is desh se chaley gayen toh Desh tarakki kar lega? Aaj bhi 25 % Indian economy middle East se ziyadatar musalman kama kar foreign remittance bhejte hain usi se chalta hai. 20% hone ke bawajood 25% foreign remittance Muslims ke wajah se desh me aata hai Zara jaakar padhai karlo.
मुसलमानों के पास choice था! जब पाकिस्तान के लिए चुनना था तब तो पाकिस्तान को चुना पर गये नहीं और भारत में रह गये! भाई वतन रामपुर था तो पाकिस्तान को क्यों चुना??? ऐसा तो नहीं होता है के आप पाकिस्तान को मजहब के आधर पर चुने और फिर भारत में रहे!
Sabse bada jhoot hai " we are here by choice" or "we choose India" or "we rejected Pakistan" Pakistan is an idea not a Territory. Every muslim ghetto is a mini Pakistan within Indian territory.
Desh se gaddari toh sanghion ne Kia British ka saath dekar aur sanghion ke wajah se Jinnah bhi secularism chor kar communal ban gaya. Hum Indian Muslims ne dono ko laat maar dia😂. Pakistan bante waqt jinnah aur sanghio ne riot karwaya aur hindu Muslim riots ho Gaya. Us waqt Jo Hindu aur Muslims congressi then woh bhi communal riots me ulajh gayen. Congressi musalmano ne pakistan ko reject Kia lekin jab riots ho Gaya tab dono samaaj ke logon ne apne apne dharm waalon ko support Kia . Jin hinduon ne riots me part lia woh zaruri nahi tha ke sanghio ke supporter then aur jin musalmanon ne riots me part lia woh zaruri nahi tha ke Muslim league aur pakistan banana chahte then. Ye baat sach hai ke jab baat dharm ka aa jaata hai phir koi desh ke baare me nahin sochta. Yahi kaam tumbhi karte ho. Pakistani apne desh me rah rahe Hain lekin tumhe bharat ke musalmanon ko pareshaan karna hai. Agar itna hi shaukh hai toh jaao pakistan ko wapas bharat me shaamil Karo war karke. Hum bharat ke musalman sabse zyada khush hongey.
What is the first thing muslims should do Is read the Koran, the Hadees and the Biography of Muhammad With an open mind And chk whether this comes from God
Muslims in minority wants constitution, in majority wants Sharia. I have seen the Muslims of Kolkata and have completely different experiences from the debators present here..
@@anshuecon Malaysia has a dual-track legal system with Islamic criminal and family laws applicable to Muslims running alongside secular laws. Islamic laws are enacted by state legislatures while secular laws are passed by Malaysia's parliament. When there is an intersection (example - Hindu marrying Muslim). Sharia always takes precedence. Besides, Malaysia's Bumiputera (positive discrimination for Malay Muslims) policy is a special economic policy that gives preferential rights to the Malay Muslim Bumiputera ethnic group in areas like housing, government contracts, and higher education.
@@raven-dl3xo Yeah but no one destroys temples, the ancient Malaysian version of the Ramayana is read openly, and Hindus in Malaysia have not faced a single instance of lynching or riots. Not the way we garlanded Bilkis Bano's rapists and lynch people to death for eating beef.
@@1008apocalypse1008 Better than lynching and harassment. Also, no Malaysian politician makes public hate speech against Hindus or Buddhists, they would be arrested immediately if they tried. Same in the UAE and Qatar and Indonesia. The Hindus of Bali in Indonesia (with the world's largest Muslim population) have not faced a single instance of violence or discrimination.
Sanatan Dharm has been an Open civilisation over centuries before even Islam was born! However, the same openness has resulted in slavery, and partition! The onus is on muslims to see how they can contribute to make hindus feel that they are safe! You never touched on "LOVE JIHAD" as if it doesn't exist?
Hindu period over, Buddhist period over, moghal period over , British period over, now democratic period currently going on. It is a evolutionary process. Each progressing period is better than previous period.
What about Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Qatar, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, etc.? Soon Muslim period will be over there and Liberal free period will begin in all Islamic countries. Watch Saudi Arabia how they launched hot swimsuit model fashion show there, just few days ago...
Hindus in Pakistan and Sri Lanka live very badly, that is why both those countries are bankrupt. You want to follow their footsteps and become a failed state that oppresses minorities?
What you gonna do after watching that video to make Pakistani Hindu lives better? Would you vote out their current regime or incite Indian Hindus to reciprocate the same against Indian Muslims? Can’t you take your hateful glasses off for a minute?
@@wrestlinginfodude2644 Talk about the situation of Hindus in Bangladesh or Pakistan, how they are treated Vs how we Hindus treat Muslims in India. If you have guts, Do this. Don't ask vague questions.
Congress ne muslims ko choice di ki wo chahte to islamic desh me bhi reh sakte h Jake or chahe to bharat secular desh m reh sakte h par hum hinduo ko kyu ye chance nhi mila ki hum Hindu bhi apna hindu desh chunn sake
Again, this constant special attitude reflects in these people who think Country needs them more than they need the country. 😂😂 I mean, no sane intellectual person thinks like that. Ask the soldiers from your community they would give you answer to your statement for the special treatment. Nowadays, Muslim patriotism is like some out of the blue watershed moment. You are not doing favor by showing your patriotism. This is your duty. This is the attitude I don't like about from left. I mean, ask Left Gen Ata Hussnain he would tell you why patriotism is not some special badge that allows you for special treatment.
Greatest Fiction: Muslims who live in India chose India! Bullshit. They were stuck. They overwhelmingly voted for the Muslim League - which was a “yes” to the referendum on Pakistan. The leaders they voted for left go Pakistan. Pls don’t make a virtue of a necessity.
my grand parents never voted for Muslim league infact they were not aware of what is Muslim league. forced to move to Pakistan survived massacare and lost family members. and this is unfair of you to talk on behalf of us, stop this nonsense.
@@Eshankashyap23 Wow, you have numbers and everything! God knows why people question the quality of the Indian education system! It is so unfair to blame the education system when we are surrounded by such knowledgeable and luminous minds like yourself and @manutrivedi5771 above!! Thanks to both of you for enlightening us with your intellectual prowess.
If all of the penalists have the same anti Hindu anti BJP, pro Muslim view, why are they discussing at all. They should have included a penalist with a different view, e g Sazia Ilmi or Anand Rangnathan or J Sai Deepak....
Are azaadi ki ladai me tum logo ne hissa liya to le to liya Islam k Naam par 2 desh ab kya Hinduo ki jaan lekar manoge tum logo ko hmesa kuch chahiye hi kyu hota h
Indian constitution very much integrate and allow its minorities to be part of the system. We are from Bihar. Our father was the youngest in a joint family possessing some Zameendaaree for livelihood , and was unmarried at the time of partition movement. Most of the middle class Muslims of Bihar were passing through a state of confusion as regard to living/ leavings. Our elders chose my father to go to Karachi to evaluate the prospects and possibilities of migrating to the proposed land of Pakistan. He arrived at Karachi before the declaration of division. Pakistan created before his eyes when he was in Karachi and performed Eid Nemaz in an Eidgaah where Mr. Jinnah had also come for Eid prayer. The whole continent of West - north- East India was inflamed in 1947. But my father decided to return back and he reached his home during highly embittered , fired up land of Bihar.. The whole family members couldn’t believe to see him back safely and paid Nemaz e Shukrana. Notwithstanding the above all were relieved. Soon after his arrival, he conveyed his decision not to migrate and he declared he would never go to a newly created country on the name of religion and he advised all the family members accordingly. By his decisions not only the elders of our joint family decided not to leave their motherland but most of the people of Mohalla as well as near & distant relatives also followed the path of the elders of our family and dropped the idea of migration. We are very much thankful to our father’s decision and advice, owing to which we are not displaced and very much embedded to our home land.
*Azadi ki jung sab ne lada tha lenkin serf ek community tha jisne apna alag hissa le lia uske baad bhi agar wo community yeh soch ta hai is desh pe uska haq hai toh wo galat hai is desh ke asli hissedar serf Non Muslim hai koi musalman nahi.*
Anti Pakistan slogan se Sahab ko kya problem hai. Is it not true that Pakistan supports all kind of terrorism in India? Baad mein senti kyon ho jate ahin agar koi kahta hai ki Pakistan ke match jitne par inko kushi hoti hai.
Although we love our India 🇮🇳 but we can not put indian tricolour flag in the mosques because its haram to do that. Only Islamic ☪️ 🗡 🔪 flag is right to put in mosques. Allah hu Akbar ☪️ 🗡 🔪
India should have never been divided in the first place. Muslims and Christians have been part of the Indian tapestry for centuries and are an integral part of her beauty and charm.
It’s beliefs like this that keeps us ALL backward, bet you wouldn’t say that if the Mughals were still ruling; it was all part of their empire as well as the British. It’s any form of extremism that we don’t want from ANY community, not just certain groups. It would have been easier to maintain that if it was still a part of India for obvious reasons. Bet you didn’t think of that huh? 🙄
No thank you !! Enough of this Al -takkaiya from muslims . Read Quran and that's what the foundation is for every Muslim. When Quran mentions that polytheists ie believing Hindus are worst of creatures than what is to negotiate with Muslims .
@@jenkudla No. I have a problem with islamic radicalism and terrorism. It is the worst form of extremism in the present day and age among all religions. Not surprising, since islam is the worst of all religions in the world today. All religions are not the same, neither are the all religious extremism. This false notion has been bandied about to soften the impact of islamic terrorism. So I reiterate. I am glad for the partition. Only wish the population transfer had been done more thoroughly. It is not backward. It is practical.
@@jenkudla How did the mughals come into it? 1. All religions are not the same. Some are way worse than others. 2. Therefore, all religious extremism are not the same. So I don't agree with your premise. It would have been devastating if the partition hadn't occurred to rule a country like India. We are struggling so much with 20% abrahamic minority. Imagining 35% is horrifying. So I standby what I had said before.
No muslim is here by choice..The Gazwa plan to be enacted require presence whereever they were made them stay back which means these 2047 plan was there back from atleast 1930s.The SDPI /PFI jammat e islami all stooges were getting into the last stages of the process when modi-shah put a break on their larger plans
Harsh Mander ji badi chaturai se baat ko ghma rahe hain lekin ye sahi bhi hai. Agar Muslamanon ke paas choice hais ki wo muslim desh mein ya secular desh mein rah sakte hain to Hinduon ko bhi ye choice honi chahiye ki to Hindu desh ya secular desh mein rah sakte hain.
It’s a very common pattern; part of family went to Pak for plum jobs and part stayed back for property here. No one imagined borders would be sealed and national identities polarised.
After voting to create pakistan, and partitioning a separate country, Chuslims should have moved to Pakistan or should have done Ghar Wapsi instead of creating troubles in India. Chuslims in India chose/preferred "Gazwa E Hind" instead of Hijarat so they are Gazwa E Hind Jihaaaadis "by choice".
You can go to pakistan or afganisthan to practice sharia. India is secular country and your jihad and sharia will not work here. Either become secular or leave
Harsh ji your efforts to translate hindered the flow of conversation. Just put up subtitles in hindi or other languages post production. Very interesting conversation. Interesting point is that the hope is strongest amongst the poorer class as they have a very few options.
Sorry, यह आप का देश नहिं है especially after you've asked for a separate nation based on religion. Now, if u r under the majority Hindus then you've to respect the Hindu civilisation and its heritage! It is as simple as that.
Every Muslim who stayed in India voted for Muslim league in 1946 election which ultimately lead to partition so don't say you stayed in India by choice.
Blatant lies! भाई मुसलमानों ने जिन्ना's idea of पाकिस्तान को नकारा नहीं बल्कि आप ने पाकिस्तान बनाया और आप आज जेठ बोलकर कहें के हिन्दू भी हिन्दूराष्ट्र को नकारे? क्यों भाई??? भारत की आस्था सनातन थी और रहेगी! पाकिस्तान तो आप लोगोँ ने बनाया!
Request all learned muslims to teach their fellow mslms to get integrated and get involved in making our motherland Bharat ,a developed nation by 2047. All these mslm hatred is because of some activities of omission and commision by the peaceful community. Also , the silent majority of educated muslims never condemn any terrorist activity and give cover fire to jihadists.All these crying now amounts to 'victimhood'. So stop treating yourself as special and be like Jains/Buddists and dissolve in the Indian culture. You people have earned most of the things because of your activity.Now, noone will pamper your community but you will be treated equal and just. Stop these , get your head down and work like rest of Indians.
Muslims got 3 nations and Hindus got just one. And these intellectuals call it a fair division. Wow. How unbiased. Muslims got 3 nations with Sharia. Muslim personal law board is based on Sharia. There is nothing outside Sharia in the Muslim Personal Law board. Remember... Indian Muslim intellectuals and Muslim women never created Shahin Baug type large movement for true secular UCC. They were ok with Sharia-based Personal Laws. That speaks volumes about their mindset. It was the fortune of Indian Muslims (and the stupidity of Lazy easily saleable Hindus) that India was ruled by Sharia Sanitised Nehru/Indira Congress ecosystem that gave this unique opportunity of.... chat bhi meri aur pat bhi meri (Hindi proverb)... That luck has overrun its course. Never trust a Muslim who is unwilling to publicly denounce a horrible Kafir-phobia book. You may not consider yourself a Kafir, but when the power equation turns, you will be nothing more than a Kafir. Trust only that Muslim who is "publicly" denouncing the holy book without doing whereaboutry. If a large number of secular Hindus are publicly denouncing Hindu Holy books, why is it not happening by secular Muslims about their Holy books? In the absence of this equivalence from so-called secular Muslims, it is better to be safe and assume that Muslims are doing a Taquiya till the power equation is not switched like in Lebanon/Afganistan/Pakistan/Bangladesh/Parsia/......
2000 ke time jab pak vs ind match hota tha. Tab chahe koi bhi jeete patakhe dono me bajte the. Main yeh nahi kehna chahta ki sab ki soch ek jaisi hai par kuch hain joh zeher ghol rahe hain. Hindu muslim dono ko ek dusre kamiyan nahi apni apni kamiyan nikalni chahiye.
Why is scroll team not being jailed for spreading half truths and Al Taqaiyya acts where perpetrators of crime are getting a forum to project themselves as victims. Wondering why in first place after overwhelmingly voting to create Pakistan these people stayed back. What changed overnight - Sardar Patel.
It is wide sprayed phenomena that huge number of Muslims were freedom fighter, it's truth but they fight for PAKISTAN not for AKHANDA BHARAT . Also their activities started from 1946 the "direct action day"
Of 40% population there were not 10 Muslim leaders in Indian national congress or Arm revolutionaries. As per research by Istiyk Ahmed, Muslims were loyal army men of the British. British considered Muslims as warrior race. Khilapt movement was an Islamic movement in support of Islamic Turkey. Indian Muslims technically had nothing to do with what happens in Turkey. It was not a movement for Indian independence.
Not 1946 direct action day, Their activities started way before even 1920 hindu massacre during Moplah riots. Syed Ahmed in 1887 had already popularized HinduMuzlim narrative and started the virus of victim hood. It has got ingrained in the Psyche of the community for 2 centuries now.They will always keep their religion and community first, the nation last. However will want preferential treatment on its resources and opportunities
One speaker complains about Hindu procession stopping in front of mosques and signing songs, playing music etc. Let the Maulanas first stop blasting 5 times a day into everyone's ears.
The fact is that the vast majority of Muslims have not read the Koran and Hadeeses to understand the true meaning of the verses. Like EAJabbar in Kerala, why not Kuranic scholars explain Kuran properly to Muslim men, women and children in India and other countries ?
Fact is Muslim league won 95% of seats in seats reserved for Muslims in 1946 elections . Vote for Muslim league was vote for Pakistan. By that result we can conclude that majority of Indian Muslims were in favour for Pakistan .
Harsh Mander's question at the beginning of the video turned me off. He shld stress on the equal rights of every Indian citizen - and not put the onus on poorvajon ne sahi faisla liya ya nahin. What nonsense! The poorvajs made the choice of their watan correctly. Their children are full fledged Indian citizens and they have every right to this country. This is so wrong-headed - no one shld have to answer this kind of a question
@@anshueconWhy she fell shame u islaamist feel shame u used islaam in every platform for ur political gain and play fake Islamophobia victim card...hypocrite bogus vote Daal rhai h tab islaam yaad nahi arha h
I am not only a supporter of Partition (of India) but a champion and I consider it very essential. I find Savarkar's demand for an undivided nation (Akhand Bharat) with both Hindus and Muslims living together a very novice thinking. My only pre-condition is that every single Muslim must be moved to Pakistan and every single Hindu must be moved to India otherwise new nation will never be a stable nation which is an essential condition for progress and development. (BR Ambedkar in the book on Pakistan and Partition of India, written 7 years before actual partition. He remained supportive of this statement till the actual partition)
Friendly tip: keep all your references about butshikani etc to yourself because it’s a historical lived reality and the Hindu civilisation has borne the brunt of it. Time for some sensitivity
I respect the concerns of Indian Muslims and at the same time I am upset because a section of them is biased. Recently there was a protest against Israel in our locality. These local Muslims doesn't know about the problem between Israel and Arabs but simply because Arabs are Muslims, they condemn Israel for the war, when it was the Arab terrorists who started this present war. In majority Muslim countries Israelis are not allowed to live while thousands of Muslims live in Israel with equal rights as Israeli citizens. They also do not condemn the atrocities of Taliban who oppress the women, Iranian regime who kill their own women, Pakistan who oppress Hindus and Christians and other minorities including Paluch people, and Nigerian terror group who massacres Christians and slave trade in some African Muslim countries. Lately the Muslim migrants are doing lot of atrocities in various western countries including latest perverted protests against Israel.
Muslims living in India did not choose India they simply were not forced to go but all most all of them supported creation of pakistan for muslims. This does explain their loyalty towords that muslim state.
I posted a link to a speech by Sardar Patel. What he clearly is saying to Muslims... You(Muslims) by large majority chose to make Pakistan and then played a double game with us and stayed back. How do we trust you now that you love India..... Those were the words of Sardar Patel. Scroll admin deleted that comment with the link. This is a perfect example of Freedom of expression standards acceptable to Scroll admin. If something is not enough Shria sanitized, such freedom of expression is not tolerated. SHam of you Scroll Admin.
Madam unnecessarily speaking English mixed Hindi and then it's translation verbatim by the moderator, who did not even bother to introduce himself, overall not a good show, all are discussing their 'personal' experiences, rather true overall situation.Similar indifference or rather hate of major community for Dalits, Sikhs, Christians and even within their own 'savarn' like Pandit Vs Thakurs, pandit Vs baniyas, south Vs North etc..etc..
When the time came to to support India's unity, THEY DECIDED TO BREAK INDIA TO UPHOLD THE FLAG OF ISLAM. It is a MIRACLE Hindus have still kept them alive.
On the one side it is hilarious to see the Scroll Host trying his darndest to speak proper Hindi and on the other side it is evident why he chose now to use Hindi (trying his darndest to avoid Urdu words). i guess the lady has displayed the future (decided) actions of the community she belongs to, they are going to start by saying my community has been betrayed the majority community of India (We can look forward to Congres's approach to avenge the special community that these guests belong to).
Peacefuls will always start troubling other communities, and then play the victim card 😂
Victim card, never speak against Islamist radicals but will point out fringe examples
CAA is Good decision taken by government
Muslim population exploded and increased by 48% while Hindu population fell drastically by 8 %. PFI has been circulating a strategy to convert India to an Islamic country by 2047. Indians who want democracy and NOT the Shariat law should agitate for population control. and maintain a balance in population and freeze at 1947 level. London, Germany, Europe have been witnessing demand for Sharat law which will appear in India soon
this guy mander was openly inciting muslims for civil war during anti CAA agitation and now talking blah blah blah
These feudals lords in the sunni society
feudal lords?? them? smh
Absolutely they're all ashrafia munafiqs @@mohameddharig9797
1:07:12 I don’t know, Which Islam she is talking, Open Society and Blasphemy was not an issue…….Jibreel is laughing in the corner 😂 ? These people are actually doing Taqaiyya.
Pakistan should start CAA to take in such people who are grieved.
😂😂😂
Taqayya toh tu karta hai 😂 daanish Khan naam rakhkar.
Pakistan is not a country, it's a mindset. So never say muslims were given a chance to choose between India and Paakistan. the choice was taaken away from Hindus,Sikhs,Christians etc to be peaceful and live amongst muslims and practice their faith, in the northwest fronteir
First of all see all religions as equal don't call kafirs
In Islam ☪️ means anyone who don't believe in Islamic teaching is kaffir naturally. Kaffir means Islam ☪️ ka inkar kar na.
Victim card playing started 😅😅😅
Ye tumhara haseen,ye tumhara mazaak udaana, ye tumhara nafrat saabit karta hai ke tum kaun ho? Victim card toh tum log khelte ho warna 80% ko dar nahi lagta ? Hazaaro saalo se victim card tumlog khelte chale aa rahe ho , babur se leke aurangzeb ka raag kaun alaapta rahta hai? Mandiro ko musalmano ne toda ,ye kahke kaun rota rahta hai?
@@Indianman536 mandiro ko muslim ne thoda h ye khud Auranjeb ki jivni m likha h Delhi k Qutub minar m likha h Kai muslims the pehle Unhone khud apni kitabo m likha h or sirf bharat nhi har jagah tum logo n Yhi Kia h Persia ka kya haal kia Mar dala parsio kr unka desh cheen liya dunia Ab tum logo ki sacchai jaan chuki h aaj America Europe me kya ho rha h jinhone Ek majhab k logo ko ehsan karke saran di aaj wo log unhi ko maar rahe h America ka flag jala rahe h sharia kanoon ki maang kar rahe h bolo
@@Vhshjvbjbcch3457 ab bol victim card kaun khel Raha hai😂
@@Indianman536 tum or Kon hmne sach bola 40 cr hone se bad bhi khud ko minorities bolte ho aaj tk kbi Kisi parsi jain Sikh jain Buddha Christian roya victim card khela minorities ka
@@Vhshjvbjbcch3457 Aurangzeb Muslim tha toh usne Jo bhi Kia uska jawaab humse logey toh Zara tum bhi jawaab dedo ke 40 hazaar se zyada baudh aur Jain mandiron ko tod kar usko Hindu mandir me convert kyon Kia Gaya?
Hindu raja chola Dynasty wala kyon Indonesia me jaakar kabza karke usne wahan ke logon ko zabardasti Hindu banaya?
Kyon hazaaro saal se lekar aaj Tak shudro ke saath Hindu atyachaar karte chale aa rahe hain?
Kyon ek shudr mahila ko apna breast chupaane ka ijaazat nahin tha? Kya iska jawaad Dene ka zimmedaar tum ho?
Main nahi samajhta ke tum ho tab tum Aaj hum musalmano se kyon jawaab maangte ho? Jo jo Hindu rajao ne Kia kya uska jawaab tum dogey?
Jinnah ne kya Kia savarkar ne kya Kia uska jawaab na tumko Dena hai aur na mujhe Dena hai.
Yaad rakhna ethnicity dharm ke adhaar pe nahin hota geographical location ke adhaar pe hota hai .
Pahle Indonesians Hindu then aaj woh musalman Hain toh kya ab Indonesia unka desh nahi Raha ? Ab Indonesia tumhara Desh ho Gaya kyon ke tum Hindu ho?
Persians pahle Zoroastrians then ab musalman Hain toh kya ab Iran unka desh nahi Raha?
Saudi Arabia UAE Malaysia saare Muslim majority Desh hain toh kya ab main musalman hone ke naate wahan ka naagrik ho Gaya?
Kal main Hindu ban jaaon toh kya main original Indian ban jaaonga?
Aur kal tum musalman ban gaye toh toh tum Turkish ban jaaogey?
Desh aur dharm me fark hota hai?
Jinnah ne Aisa experiment Kia tha woh fail ho Gaya! Dharm ke naam pe bangladesh ko bacha nahi paaya.
Ab tum log dharm ke naam pe desh banaane chale ho , kaamyab nahi hogey lekin desh ka bura haal ho jaayega.
Agar is desh me dharm ke naam par raajneeti nahi hota toh Aaj BJP se sawaal hota ke kyon desh me mahngai aur berozgari badh raha hai?
Lekin tum jaiso ke wajah se desh chaahe jitna bhi barbaad ho jaaye tumko aurangzeb ne kya Kia uska bahot tention hai.
Jaisey ke musalman is desh se chaley gayen toh Desh tarakki kar lega? Aaj bhi 25 % Indian economy middle East se ziyadatar musalman kama kar foreign remittance bhejte hain usi se chalta hai.
20% hone ke bawajood 25% foreign remittance Muslims ke wajah se desh me aata hai Zara jaakar padhai karlo.
मुसलमानों के पास choice था! जब पाकिस्तान के लिए चुनना था तब तो पाकिस्तान को चुना पर गये नहीं और भारत में रह गये! भाई वतन रामपुर था तो पाकिस्तान को क्यों चुना??? ऐसा तो नहीं होता है के आप पाकिस्तान को मजहब के आधर पर चुने और फिर भारत में रहे!
How Muslims lie through teeth..... we are here by choice....
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This debate is to incite hatred,no muslim can be patriatic towards India
It is not our fault that they made wrong chouce. 😂
Pakistani inse itni mohabbat krte the ki inke purwajo ko laat markar bhaga diya 😂😂😂😂
The statement is not only wrong but also biased.
Tu janvar Sanghi he
@@user-ho2bm5gv2itu porki hai
Sabse bada jhoot hai
" we are here by choice" or "we choose India" or "we rejected Pakistan"
Pakistan is an idea not a Territory. Every muslim ghetto is a mini Pakistan within Indian territory.
absolutely correct
pakistan as an idea was created by deobandi's of saharanpur
Absolutely right.
@@zachariahtitus1210 ✅🙏
How Muslims lie through teeth..... we are here by choice....
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Desh se gaddari toh sanghion ne Kia British ka saath dekar aur sanghion ke wajah se Jinnah bhi secularism chor kar communal ban gaya. Hum Indian Muslims ne dono ko laat maar dia😂.
Pakistan bante waqt jinnah aur sanghio ne riot karwaya aur hindu Muslim riots ho Gaya.
Us waqt Jo Hindu aur Muslims congressi then woh bhi communal riots me ulajh gayen.
Congressi musalmano ne pakistan ko reject Kia lekin jab riots ho Gaya tab dono samaaj ke logon ne apne apne dharm waalon ko support Kia .
Jin hinduon ne riots me part lia woh zaruri nahi tha ke sanghio ke supporter then aur jin musalmanon ne riots me part lia woh zaruri nahi tha ke Muslim league aur pakistan banana chahte then.
Ye baat sach hai ke jab baat dharm ka aa jaata hai phir koi desh ke baare me nahin sochta.
Yahi kaam tumbhi karte ho.
Pakistani apne desh me rah rahe Hain lekin tumhe bharat ke musalmanon ko pareshaan karna hai.
Agar itna hi shaukh hai toh jaao pakistan ko wapas bharat me shaamil Karo war karke. Hum bharat ke musalman sabse zyada khush hongey.
Harsh Mandar is now on bail for alleged money laundering case.
❤Harsh Mander, unlike Sanghi liars, is a great man. Sanghi agents can arrest any person on fake cases
What is the first thing muslims should do
Is read the Koran, the Hadees and the Biography of Muhammad
With an open mind
And chk whether this comes from God
Who said Muslims to stay back in India was their any opinion taken from hindus
Muslims in minority wants constitution, in majority wants Sharia. I have seen the Muslims of Kolkata and have completely different experiences from the debators present here..
Muslims are in the majority in Malaysia, there is no Sharia there and it is far more secular than India. Same for Qatar and the UAE.
@@anshuecon Malaysia has a dual-track legal system with Islamic criminal and family laws applicable to Muslims running alongside secular laws. Islamic laws are enacted by state legislatures while secular laws are passed by Malaysia's parliament. When there is an intersection (example - Hindu marrying Muslim). Sharia always takes precedence. Besides, Malaysia's Bumiputera (positive discrimination for Malay Muslims) policy is a special economic policy that gives preferential rights to the Malay Muslim Bumiputera ethnic group in areas like housing, government contracts, and higher education.
@@raven-dl3xo That's the beauty of Islam!
@@raven-dl3xo Yeah but no one destroys temples, the ancient Malaysian version of the Ramayana is read openly, and Hindus in Malaysia have not faced a single instance of lynching or riots. Not the way we garlanded Bilkis Bano's rapists and lynch people to death for eating beef.
@@1008apocalypse1008 Better than lynching and harassment. Also, no Malaysian politician makes public hate speech against Hindus or Buddhists, they would be arrested immediately if they tried. Same in the UAE and Qatar and Indonesia. The Hindus of Bali in Indonesia (with the world's largest Muslim population) have not faced a single instance of violence or discrimination.
Sanatan Dharm has been an Open civilisation over centuries before even Islam was born! However, the same openness has resulted in slavery, and partition! The onus is on muslims to see how they can contribute to make hindus feel that they are safe! You never touched on "LOVE JIHAD" as if it doesn't exist?
Hindu period over, Buddhist period over, moghal period over , British period over, now democratic period currently going on. It is a evolutionary process. Each progressing period is better than previous period.
What about Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Qatar, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, etc.? Soon Muslim period will be over there and Liberal free period will begin in all Islamic countries. Watch Saudi Arabia how they launched hot swimsuit model fashion show there, just few days ago...
India is a Hindu country but we will respect n give place to others also to live here but u must respect india n its traditions n constitution
Make a video on the Hindus of Pakistan and Bangladesh, if your channel has good guts.
Hindus in Pakistan and Sri Lanka live very badly, that is why both those countries are bankrupt. You want to follow their footsteps and become a failed state that oppresses minorities?
What you gonna do after watching that video to make Pakistani Hindu lives better? Would you vote out their current regime or incite Indian Hindus to reciprocate the same against Indian Muslims? Can’t you take your hateful glasses off for a minute?
Why? They are talking about India ,why they should discuss about any foreign affairs?
Because they are Hindus, they are us. Don't give vague reasons and flee away. Face it. @@wrestlinginfodude2644
@@wrestlinginfodude2644 Talk about the situation of Hindus in Bangladesh or Pakistan, how they are treated Vs how we Hindus treat Muslims in India. If you have guts, Do this. Don't ask vague questions.
When wolf is lonely it acts as dog. Al Taqiya, read 9 29 of holy book
musalmanon ko to Itna Dar Laga rahata Hai Ki vah to Godhra kand Tak kar dete Hain.
Congress ne muslims ko choice di ki wo chahte to islamic desh me bhi reh sakte h Jake or chahe to bharat secular desh m reh sakte h par hum hinduo ko kyu ye chance nhi mila ki hum Hindu bhi apna hindu desh chunn sake
Again, this constant special attitude reflects in these people who think Country needs them more than they need the country. 😂😂 I mean, no sane intellectual person thinks like that. Ask the soldiers from your community they would give you answer to your statement for the special treatment. Nowadays, Muslim patriotism is like some out of the blue watershed moment. You are not doing favor by showing your patriotism. This is your duty. This is the attitude I don't like about from left. I mean, ask Left Gen Ata Hussnain he would tell you why patriotism is not some special badge that allows you for special treatment.
Pakistan kon banaya ... ak bar batao majority hote to avi desh ka halat keya hota
Greatest Fiction: Muslims who live in India chose India! Bullshit. They were stuck. They overwhelmingly voted for the Muslim League - which was a “yes” to the referendum on Pakistan. The leaders they voted for left go Pakistan.
Pls don’t make a virtue of a necessity.
my grand parents never voted for Muslim league infact they were not aware of what is Muslim league. forced to move to Pakistan survived massacare and lost family members. and this is unfair of you to talk on behalf of us, stop this nonsense.
@@Gulfraz_ 86% did ..but ofcourse 14% didn't
@@Eshankashyap23 Wow, you have numbers and everything! God knows why people question the quality of the Indian education system! It is so unfair to blame the education system when we are surrounded by such knowledgeable and luminous minds like yourself and @manutrivedi5771 above!! Thanks to both of you for enlightening us with your intellectual prowess.
@@moumitachowdhury698 you can check this on your own
@@Gulfraz_ How Muslims lie through teeth..... we are here by choice....
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If all of the penalists have the same anti Hindu anti BJP, pro Muslim view, why are they discussing at all. They should have included a penalist with a different view, e g Sazia Ilmi or Anand Rangnathan or J Sai Deepak....
All Rahul Gandhi or Pakistani agents?
Hindu 🕉 kaffiras ho tum apani bokwas bund kar. Only true religion Islam ☪️ in the world 🌎
Are azaadi ki ladai me tum logo ne hissa liya to le to liya Islam k Naam par 2 desh ab kya Hinduo ki jaan lekar manoge tum logo ko hmesa kuch chahiye hi kyu hota h
If you are threatened here, you are not happy here you can leave. No one is forcing you to stey here..... Educated Zombies
desh ko todne se bari gaddari kya ho sakti hai?
Great initiative - could you please do more of these discussions with Muslims from other parts of the country besides UP and Delhi as well?
Mr Zia, If u feel being betrayed then you r free to take the train which you or your forefathers missed in 1947!
Why the f is he translating everything i don't think anyone who don't understand English will ever watch this.
Indian constitution very much integrate and allow its minorities to be part of the system.
We are from Bihar. Our father was the youngest in a joint family possessing some Zameendaaree for livelihood , and was unmarried at the time of partition movement. Most of the middle class Muslims of Bihar were passing through a state of confusion as regard to living/ leavings.
Our elders chose my father to go to Karachi to evaluate the prospects and possibilities of migrating to the proposed land of Pakistan. He arrived at Karachi before the declaration of division. Pakistan created before his eyes when he was in Karachi and performed Eid Nemaz in an Eidgaah where Mr. Jinnah had also come for Eid prayer. The whole continent of West - north- East India was inflamed in 1947.
But my father decided to return back and he reached his home during highly embittered , fired up land of Bihar..
The whole family members couldn’t believe to see him back safely and paid Nemaz e Shukrana.
Notwithstanding the above all were relieved.
Soon after his arrival, he conveyed his decision not to migrate and he declared he would never go to a newly created country on the name of religion and he advised all the family members accordingly.
By his decisions not only the elders of our joint family decided not to leave their motherland but most of the people of Mohalla as well as near & distant relatives also followed the path of the elders of our family and dropped the idea of migration.
We are very much thankful to our father’s decision and advice, owing to which we are not displaced and very much embedded to our home land.
Bloody Ashraf Mentality
is Harsh mandar the same bigot who wanted communal bill in UPA era .....
Kashmiris Removed Pakistani flages from Kashmir | Pak Occupied Kashmir freedom
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JSD would have torn them a new one. And not one of them is brave enough to debate him. Including the so-called lawyer here.
जब तक आपकी identity मुस्लिम रहेगी, तब तक आप पर सवाल खड़े होंगे! आप की पहचान भारतीय होनी चाहिये ना के मुस्लिम!
😂😂😂
Mr. Pork, if you can identify yourself as a Hindu or any other religion, Muslims have every right to identify themselves as Muslims
*Azadi ki jung sab ne lada tha lenkin serf ek community tha jisne apna alag hissa le lia uske baad bhi agar wo community yeh soch ta hai is desh pe uska haq hai toh wo galat hai is desh ke asli hissedar serf Non Muslim hai koi musalman nahi.*
This is soo cringe. Focus on nature only please. Otherwise this website will be a history. Dont talk politics.
Anti Pakistan slogan se Sahab ko kya problem hai. Is it not true that Pakistan supports all kind of terrorism in India? Baad mein senti kyon ho jate ahin agar koi kahta hai ki Pakistan ke match jitne par inko kushi hoti hai.
22:29 If they are patriotic so why they don't use flag of india in their mosque as like in hindu temples.
Although we love our India 🇮🇳 but we can not put indian tricolour flag in the mosques because its haram to do that. Only Islamic ☪️ 🗡 🔪 flag is right to put in mosques. Allah hu Akbar ☪️ 🗡 🔪
India should have never been divided in the first place. Muslims and Christians have been part of the Indian tapestry for centuries and are an integral part of her beauty and charm.
No, thank you. We all owe a debt of gratitude to Jinnah. Just imagining a country with one-third muslims is horrifying.
It’s beliefs like this that keeps us ALL backward, bet you wouldn’t say that if the Mughals were still ruling; it was all part of their empire as well as the British. It’s any form of extremism that we don’t want from ANY community, not just certain groups. It would have been easier to maintain that if it was still a part of India for obvious reasons. Bet you didn’t think of that huh? 🙄
No thank you !! Enough of this Al -takkaiya from muslims . Read Quran and that's what the foundation is for every Muslim. When Quran mentions that polytheists ie believing Hindus are worst of creatures than what is to negotiate with Muslims .
@@jenkudla No. I have a problem with islamic radicalism and terrorism. It is the worst form of extremism in the present day and age among all religions. Not surprising, since islam is the worst of all religions in the world today. All religions are not the same, neither are the all religious extremism. This false notion has been bandied about to soften the impact of islamic terrorism.
So I reiterate. I am glad for the partition. Only wish the population transfer had been done more thoroughly. It is not backward. It is practical.
@@jenkudla How did the mughals come into it? 1. All religions are not the same. Some are way worse than others. 2. Therefore, all religious extremism are not the same. So I don't agree with your premise. It would have been devastating if the partition hadn't occurred to rule a country like India. We are struggling so much with 20% abrahamic minority. Imagining 35% is horrifying. So I standby what I had said before.
No muslim is here by choice..The Gazwa plan to be enacted require presence whereever they were made them stay back which means these 2047 plan was there back from atleast 1930s.The SDPI
/PFI jammat e islami all stooges were getting into the last stages of the process when modi-shah put a break on their larger plans
Harsh Mander ji badi chaturai se baat ko ghma rahe hain lekin ye sahi bhi hai. Agar Muslamanon ke paas choice hais ki wo muslim desh mein ya secular desh mein rah sakte hain to Hinduon ko bhi ye choice honi chahiye ki to Hindu desh ya secular desh mein rah sakte hain.
Few nonsense people showing an example of Al-Taquiya.
It’s a very common pattern; part of family went to Pak for plum jobs and part stayed back for property here. No one imagined borders would be sealed and national identities polarised.
After voting to create pakistan, and partitioning a separate country, Chuslims should have moved to Pakistan or should have done Ghar Wapsi instead of creating troubles in India. Chuslims in India chose/preferred "Gazwa E Hind" instead of Hijarat so they are Gazwa E Hind Jihaaaadis "by choice".
If you have made up your mind please find a country where you could happier safer and live in peace. To my mind no other place is better than Bharat!
Keep taking will get us even more angry, world over nothing divides like victim card. 😮
If Pasmanda is facing the material damage then ask them to stop pelting stones on Hindu festivals!
Nation divided on the basis of Religion. Who given Power to Congress to settle Muslims in India
You can go to pakistan or afganisthan to practice sharia. India is secular country and your jihad and sharia will not work here. Either become secular or leave
Mr Zia, हिन्दू धर्म को हिन्दुत्व से बचाना है? आप ने कहा "बेशक" क्यों भाई? Why not save muslims from Islamism?
just the point i was thinking when i heard him.
Harsh ji your efforts to translate hindered the flow of conversation.
Just put up subtitles in hindi or other languages post production.
Very interesting conversation.
Interesting point is that the hope is strongest amongst the poorer class as they have a very few options.
Sorry, यह आप का देश नहिं है especially after you've asked for a separate nation based on religion. Now, if u r under the majority Hindus then you've to respect the Hindu civilisation and its heritage! It is as simple as that.
Every Muslim who stayed in India voted for Muslim league in 1946 election which ultimately lead to partition so don't say you stayed in India by choice.
How Muslims lie through teeth..... we are here by choice....
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Being a left ECO system Mafia in India Today : No one entertain this shit.
Blatant lies! भाई मुसलमानों ने जिन्ना's idea of पाकिस्तान को नकारा नहीं बल्कि आप ने पाकिस्तान बनाया और आप आज जेठ बोलकर कहें के हिन्दू भी हिन्दूराष्ट्र को नकारे? क्यों भाई??? भारत की आस्था सनातन थी और रहेगी! पाकिस्तान तो आप लोगोँ ने बनाया!
How Muslims lie through teeth..... we are here by choice....
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Namakharam aur namakhalal wo ki guftugu
Let me answer the central question, straight - Bharat ko tumhari zaroorat nahi hai
Request all learned muslims to teach their fellow mslms to get integrated and get involved in making our motherland Bharat ,a developed nation by 2047. All these mslm hatred is because of some activities of omission and commision by the peaceful community. Also , the silent majority of educated muslims never condemn any terrorist activity and give cover fire to jihadists.All these crying now amounts to 'victimhood'. So stop treating yourself as special and be like Jains/Buddists and dissolve in the Indian culture. You people have earned most of the things because of your activity.Now, noone will pamper your community but you will be treated equal and just. Stop these , get your head down and work like rest of Indians.
Muslims got 3 nations and Hindus got just one. And these intellectuals call it a fair division. Wow. How unbiased.
Muslims got 3 nations with Sharia. Muslim personal law board is based on Sharia. There is nothing outside Sharia in the Muslim Personal Law board.
Remember... Indian Muslim intellectuals and Muslim women never created Shahin Baug type large movement for true secular UCC. They were ok with Sharia-based Personal Laws. That speaks volumes about their mindset. It was the fortune of Indian Muslims (and the stupidity of Lazy easily saleable Hindus) that India was ruled by Sharia Sanitised Nehru/Indira Congress ecosystem that gave this unique opportunity of.... chat bhi meri aur pat bhi meri (Hindi proverb)... That luck has overrun its course.
Never trust a Muslim who is unwilling to publicly denounce a horrible Kafir-phobia book. You may not consider yourself a Kafir, but when the power equation turns, you will be nothing more than a Kafir.
Trust only that Muslim who is "publicly" denouncing the holy book without doing whereaboutry. If a large number of secular Hindus are publicly denouncing Hindu Holy books, why is it not happening by secular Muslims about their Holy books? In the absence of this equivalence from so-called secular Muslims, it is better to be safe and assume that Muslims are doing a Taquiya till the power equation is not switched like in Lebanon/Afganistan/Pakistan/Bangladesh/Parsia/......
2000 ke time jab pak vs ind match hota tha. Tab chahe koi bhi jeete patakhe dono me bajte the. Main yeh nahi kehna chahta ki sab ki soch ek jaisi hai par kuch hain joh zeher ghol rahe hain. Hindu muslim dono ko ek dusre kamiyan nahi apni apni kamiyan nikalni chahiye.
Beautiful talks
Sandeshkhali rape jihad gang agrees
Great subject. Appreciated.
Why is scroll team not being jailed for spreading half truths and Al Taqaiyya acts where perpetrators of crime are getting a forum to project themselves as victims. Wondering why in first place after overwhelmingly voting to create Pakistan these people stayed back. What changed overnight - Sardar Patel.
How Muslims lie through teeth..... we are here by choice....
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It is wide sprayed phenomena that huge number of Muslims were freedom fighter, it's truth but they fight for PAKISTAN not for AKHANDA BHARAT . Also their activities started from 1946 the "direct action day"
Of 40% population there were not 10 Muslim leaders in Indian national congress or Arm revolutionaries. As per research by Istiyk Ahmed, Muslims were loyal army men of the British. British considered Muslims as warrior race. Khilapt movement was an Islamic movement in support of Islamic Turkey. Indian Muslims technically had nothing to do with what happens in Turkey. It was not a movement for Indian independence.
Not 1946 direct action day, Their activities started way before even 1920 hindu massacre during Moplah riots. Syed Ahmed in 1887 had already popularized HinduMuzlim narrative and started the virus of victim hood. It has got ingrained in the Psyche of the community for 2 centuries now.They will always keep their religion and community first, the nation last. However will want preferential treatment on its resources and opportunities
Allah hu Akbar ☪️ 🗡 🔪
One speaker complains about Hindu procession stopping in front of mosques and signing songs, playing music etc.
Let the Maulanas first stop blasting 5 times a day into everyone's ears.
The fact is that the vast majority of Muslims have not read the Koran and Hadeeses to understand the true meaning of the verses. Like EAJabbar in Kerala, why not Kuranic scholars explain Kuran properly to Muslim men, women and children in India and other countries ?
Fact is Muslim league won 95% of seats in seats reserved for Muslims in 1946 elections . Vote for Muslim league was vote for Pakistan. By that result we can conclude that majority of Indian Muslims were in favour for Pakistan .
Bohat piyara andaaz e guftagu
Harsh Mander's question at the beginning of the video turned me off. He shld stress on the equal rights of every Indian citizen - and not put the onus on poorvajon ne sahi faisla liya ya nahin. What nonsense! The poorvajs made the choice of their watan correctly. Their children are full fledged Indian citizens and they have every right to this country. This is so wrong-headed - no one shld have to answer this kind of a question
It is a painful question but many Indian Muslims now ask themselves that question.
I would suggest them to go to Pakistan.
Believe me we won't shed tears for them @@anshuecon
@@anshueconWhy she fell shame u islaamist feel shame u used islaam in every platform for ur political gain and play fake Islamophobia victim card...hypocrite bogus vote Daal rhai h tab islaam yaad nahi arha h
@@anshueconit's a difficult question also for non-Muslim that should they entertain backward institutions like Waqf Board and AIMPLB.
Nicely pointed out.
I am not only a supporter of Partition (of India) but a champion and I consider it very essential. I find Savarkar's demand for an undivided nation (Akhand Bharat) with both Hindus and Muslims living together a very novice thinking. My only pre-condition is that every single Muslim must be moved to Pakistan and every single Hindu must be moved to India otherwise new nation will never be a stable nation which is an essential condition for progress and development. (BR Ambedkar in the book on Pakistan and Partition of India, written 7 years before actual partition. He remained supportive of this statement till the actual partition)
Friendly tip: keep all your references about butshikani etc to yourself because it’s a historical lived reality and the Hindu civilisation has borne the brunt of it. Time for some sensitivity
56:14 Zia’s grouse is that Muslims were always superior and the ruling class; they don’t deserve to be treated like Dalits
Most dangerous community under the sun
Allah hu Akbar ☪️ 🗡 🔪 only true religion Islam in the world 🌎
Please Don't make India another Lebanon. Once 33% achieved, a gone case. Beware of Al Taqiyya
I respect the concerns of Indian Muslims and at the same time I am upset because a section of them is biased. Recently there was a protest against Israel in our locality. These local Muslims doesn't know about the problem between Israel and Arabs but simply because Arabs are Muslims, they condemn Israel for the war, when it was the Arab terrorists who started this present war. In majority Muslim countries Israelis are not allowed to live while thousands of Muslims live in Israel with equal rights as Israeli citizens. They also do not condemn the atrocities of Taliban who oppress the women, Iranian regime who kill their own women, Pakistan who oppress Hindus and Christians and other minorities including Paluch people, and Nigerian terror group who massacres Christians and slave trade in some African Muslim countries. Lately the Muslim migrants are doing lot of atrocities in various western countries including latest perverted protests against Israel.
Some stayed back to safeguard their property; some stayed back to continue the Pakistan project.
There is only one Islam:
what Prophet Muhammad Said and what Prophet Muhammad Did in his Life Time,
Every thing else is to deceive you.
Muslims living in India did not choose India they simply were not forced to go but all most all of them supported creation of pakistan for muslims. This does explain their loyalty towords that muslim state.
How Muslims lie through teeth..... we are here by choice....
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Those who are blind cannot find the truth because they are fed with lies whole day. They can only criticize
I posted a link to a speech by Sardar Patel. What he clearly is saying to Muslims... You(Muslims) by large majority chose to make Pakistan and then played a double game with us and stayed back. How do we trust you now that you love India..... Those were the words of Sardar Patel. Scroll admin deleted that comment with the link. This is a perfect example of Freedom of expression standards acceptable to Scroll admin. If something is not enough Shria sanitized, such freedom of expression is not tolerated. SHam of you Scroll Admin.
First but where is the voice
Madam unnecessarily speaking English mixed Hindi and then it's translation verbatim by the moderator, who did not even bother to introduce himself, overall not a good show, all are discussing their 'personal' experiences, rather true overall situation.Similar indifference or rather hate of major community for Dalits, Sikhs, Christians and even within their own 'savarn' like Pandit Vs Thakurs, pandit Vs baniyas, south Vs North etc..etc..
All religions are equal..jai india munnani ❤❤❤❤
What kind of nonsense video is this?
Enjoy man. See what views they get and also, promote migration if sun!is from pak want them… believe not one from india will have an issue
Learn Shatrubodh.
Why is this man doing a discussion in Hindi? Sounds totally artificial. It is not his language at all.
When the time came to to support India's unity, THEY DECIDED TO BREAK INDIA TO UPHOLD THE FLAG OF ISLAM. It is a MIRACLE Hindus have still kept them alive.
We all know this 'Mandar the Bandar'🐵 well versed with its mischiefs! and what he is upto everyone knows ha..ha..ha..ha...😃😃😀
On the one side it is hilarious to see the Scroll Host trying his darndest to speak proper Hindi and on the other side it is evident why he chose now to use Hindi (trying his darndest to avoid Urdu words).
i guess the lady has displayed the future (decided) actions of the community she belongs to, they are going to start by saying my community has been betrayed the majority community of India (We can look forward to Congres's approach to avenge the special community that these guests belong to).
Sharukh Alam big fan of urs..🎉
Save Sanathan from Hindutva, sure my friend. Howerver when will you folks raise your voice/ risk your skins for saving Islam from Islamism ????????
Aj pakistaner hindu comunity r to aro kharap experience.
Tader kotha to sunte hobe, tader jonno to CAA.
Al taqiya until u become majority 😅😅
So Pakistan is Pakistan
Sirf India hi nahi - HINDU DHARM BHI TUMHARA HAI