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Aux Tracks, Busses and Sends Explained!
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It seems this is a more confusing topic for some (it was for me at first also). If after watching this you still need further clarity, I uploaded a more in-depth tutorial czcams.com/video/Od-KH-Nt2dg/video.html. It takes some time, stay at it đ
I think explaining in more detail that bussing is sending all the audio to another track and send is sending a copy of the audio to another track would've helped..
Love your work by the way..
that's another way to think about! Thanks for the input Nick.
Nice
But why would you send a copy of audio to another track ??why would you use a bus & a send arenât they pretty much the same thing?
I think some people posting misunderstand you Sean. sends. It goes like this, the send is what you use to select another source to send to, for example a buss, the buss routes the signal to the auxiliary channel which is a different type of channel strip in the digital mixing window when working in the digital audio workstation. The auxiliary channel gives auxiliary support to the original audio or instrument tracks. You can put effects on the auxiliary tracks to support the main channel without overloading the main channel with effects processing. They are also lighter on processing cpu. They also benefit from adding more warmth to the perceived audio signal. It feels like it gives a little bit of a boost to the vocals or instrument parts that need to be in the front of the mix. You donât need to buss everything to aux channels. They are just another tool to help in balancing a good mix and can be used in different ways. Thanks for the video Sean.
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thats awesome Jackson :) glad to hear it!!
Just letting you know start from scratch man it just makes it confusing seeing all that stuff in their alredy
Just telling you learn to spell man
@@behindthen0thing Just telling you, learn how to use proper grammar if youâre going to talk about someone elseâs spelling đ Also, âjust telling youâ isnât a phrase lol
So aux vs. bus boils down to this:
You use a bus to send to an aux.
You use Bus A to send to Aux 1 and Bus B to send to Aux 2.
Any channel set to Bus A will be sent to Aux 1 (reverb, for example)....
... and any channel sent to Bus B will be sent to Aux 2 (compression, for example)
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A bus is just a channel whos input is the bus number. You can route tracksâ output to that bus channel and all audio will go there. A send lets you send some of the audio to the bus, pre or post fader. Now does pre-fader also include the inserts?? Thereâs also VCAâs... VCAâs are channels that you route your tracks to and it includes all the sends to busses. So when you solo a VCA it will also solo all the sends and include those.
Super informative! Really clarified the terms for me. Thanks man
I didn't ride the bus to school so I don't get this.
I'm homeschooled so I don't get school
Me. Too
Well go to the no bus video and aux somebody else
@@stevensauls2013 I'm homeless so I don't get homes
Bruh
How about setting up busses with a track stack? I find that way to be quite complimentary to my workflow as I work on my mix. Appreciate the content! Thanks
Thank you, Sean! Great video, I started using Cubase not long time ago, correct if I am wrong in Cubase: aux track = audio track, bus = group track and send = FX track.
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thanks. you helped me.
Makes no sense to me.. yet. I still donât get the actual breakdown of how it works. So say I record multiple vocal tracks... If Iâm going to use same exact effects on them.. I route those to a BUS track. That way I save CPU usage and effects only need to be applied once correct? Instead of individually applying an effect racks right? Then what is the use of a send? And whatâs an AUX? Iâm confused, if someone can break it down in more simple terms that would be great. Also can someone break down what is side chaining?
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so, would an aux track be the same thing as a return track?
Thanks for the video tutorial a little hard to understand. However however are you basically saying that each bus is where we should put effects including, having reverb in one bus, delay in another bus and so on? Iâve been using GarageBand iOS for eight years but Iâm also recently starting to use logic which is a lot more complex or seems to be. I understand that mixing including planning, volume et cetera is different to mastering. I believe mastering, is what makes the project sound crystal clear and Iâm very interested and keen to know shortcuts as I predominately record multitrack building them up myself including creating my own drum, bass and other patterns.
Escuse me i have one question, When I try to send my tracks to a bus aux and I select the bus in âsoloâ all tracks get mute but when I deselect the tracks sound normally,, Iâm donât know why it happens upside down , I have a new interface and I setuped everything for default.. đ€·đ»ââïž what should i do?? I know is something easy to fix but I cant find this joke!!
Great video! Iâm interested in first learning how to mix instrumentals as i havenât gotten to a point where Iâm recording anyone as of yet. Which would you recommend from the list above? Are there two different templates available? Thanks again!
hey David, I offer a beat mixing course which also includes templates - seandivine.com/downloads/divine-beat-mixing/
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I noticed that you put the reverb and delay on its own bus, instead of the vocal chain, would this be the best way to mix all my vocals?
it's definitely a smoother workflow and more cpu efficient đ
Question - If I want multiple instances of Ez mix on a vocal track, how do you do that? For example, need a de esser, then need reverb for the same track, how is this achieved in logic? Sends/Bus/Aux? or multiple instances of ezmix on 1 track?
Thank u so much
sure thing :)
Hey mate you are doing a mint job with tutorials but how do you get a output channel in logic so I can master a piece I have used stems for
I'm Sean too.
Whatâs the difference say on the snare track just setting up those fx on the track level rather than using a send? Wonât you get the same results?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe, yes, you'd get the same result, but doing it on each individual track is more cpu intensive. By sending multiple tracks to a single aux fx track via a bus, you're putting less strain on the computer.
Thanks for showing us this. I have a question though. How can you solo an aux track with post fader send feeding it? Sounds stupid, but if you solo an aux track, other tracks are muted including ones that have signal going to that aux. You can than solo those tracks as well, but what if I want to hear only the effect on the aux. Is there any faster and more convinient way, rather than changing your send to pre fader and pulling the faders down on original tracks? This has been driving me crazy.
im trying to route logic pro x to 4 monitor speakers. some channels on 1+2 and other channels on 3+4. HELP!
I feelin whacha sayin but I guess the when to use is more of a point we need :-)
Hello Sean, one thing I can't seem to find anyone speaking on is this. When you set up an effects aux like reverb, and you select a bus to route the channel you want reverb on like vocals to aux channel. How come the bus knob that's on the vocal channel if you turn it up it turns up the vocals and make them louder? How can you use more reverb without turning vocals up louder ?
set the reverb wetness on the aux to 100%, that will help
When talking about your 8th note delay send, why did you call it bus 31 instead of track 31? A send is just a track with the effect on it? Or have I got my thinking wrong. I'm always learning.
The send signal is sent through a "bus (#32)" to an aux track
Basic question - Why do any of this? What's wrong with putting on effects on each track separately? Wouldn't you want to treat them separately? I don't get it. :(
You certainly can do that but you are going to use more of your CPU ability, and you may run of out of processing power.
You do want to process each one separately. You start the mix that way. If you have an analog board or a nice computer you can route the tracks to their busses, aux tracks, and master all at once. Otherwise you will probably want to record each of the tracks with the effects on them, all at once (so you can hear the mix), then do the same thing for the next stage of the mix down. To be honest though that kind of sucks, but itâs possible.
You route the tracks to busses so that you can process multiple tracks together. Itâs part of the mixdown process and it should come right after each track is processed individually. For instance, you might want to process each drum microphone individually, then process them together by blending them into a bus and adding some subtle compression/EQ on the bus or something to glue the sound together so they donât sound like they were processed separately, itâs also a good point to add reverb because the reverb, either natural or synthesized, reacts to the overall sound being fed to it, so it would sound different if you put it on each individual tracks than if you put it on a drum bus, and since natural reverb is is responding to the sound of the entire instrument, it often sounds better to put it on a bus.
Busses actually come from analog circuitry. They basically serve the same function as aux tracks in most DAWs except that they can help a LOT with workflow especially when you have that nice computer and you can play all your tracks and busses with FX at once so you can adjust your mix from bottom to top while listening. Busses simplify that situation and will reduce CPU usage but if you are doing it one stage at a time and recording the FX into aux tracks then you may not need them.
hey do u know why when I click "stereo out" nothing happens and I cant route to directly a bus I have them made already and can send them fine
Ok. Sean. I purchased your Template. how much will you charge me to be able to use/make a template. because when I'm recording on your template I get soooo lost bro. Help me dude. please I'm trying to learn while under quarantine
Hi Michael, the mixing templates are designed for mixing, not tracking :) you may want to incorporate my free tracking template and then import into Waves Template / Template One - seandivine.com/vocal-tracking-template-design-free-download/. Any questions on the mixing templates, feel free to send a message with the link on your purchase receipt. Happy to help!
If you send your track to an effect-bus and still Output the track to a group (School) Bus, is the effect included in the group bus or does the Effect bus go to the Stereo Output seperatly?
the bus would go to the stereo output separately, unless you route the entire output of the track to an aux (group)
I'm looking on how to make a Aux track on Adobe audition but I don't think Adobe audition has any aux tracks. Can anyone help ?
Go watch adobe vids
Hi, thanks for this vid. Question: I notice that by default a new aux track (say where you might put your reverb FX) has an output of STEREO OUT. Does this mean that the signal gets sent to the aux track and then that signal goes right to stereo out? Or does the Stereo Out part of an aux track get ignored if the incoming signal came via send? To take that a step further, is it true that if the incoming signal to an aux track came in via send then when it's done processing in that aux track does the signal go BACK to the original audio track where it might get sent off to another bus via a different send? Does my question make sense?
I think you may be overcomplicating it :) By default, your sends go down to the aux for processing and then the AUX OUTPUT goes to the stereo out (master bus). You can of course route the aux output wherever you want. Hope that helps!
@@SeanDivine lol. I'm ace at overcomplicating things. I guess what I don't understand if I have an audio track that has no local FX on the FX chain, has two sends, and where the output is set to stereo out, then is the signal that gets goes out on the second send the raw audio from the track? Or is it the raw audio from the track plus whatever processing happened with the first send? ... Related, in the scenario above, are there three signals getting merged and mixed into the master bus (#1 send->stereo out, #2 send-> stereo out, #3 raw audio->stereo out)? Please let me know if this is involved for YT comments, let me know if a quick call (with you on the clock) makes more sense.... not trying to be a freeloader. Just really want to understand. :) Thanks!
What is the difference between a Sum Track and a Bus Track? Is there a difference?
it depends on the way you have the routing set up
yeah but bro, how do I re-name that shit so it don't say "Bus 1" , "Bus 2" etc etc.....
All I want to know is why using busses instead of stereo out? Is it for better mix?
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Iâm getting latency issues when I route my vocal track to my aux track with sends on it. ;/
that's normal :/ when tracking, you will typically want to use inserts to avoid latency
what's up Sean, quick question unrelated to this video. what's the proper way to set up a sub into my setup. I have yamaha hs10 monitors and a hs8 sub with a presonus 192 mobile interface.
Hey Demetrius, assuming your sub has speaker outputs you would route the signal from your interface to the sub and then connect your speakers to the outputs on the hs8
Sean Divine thanks for the reply. I'm not sure I fully understand tho. I'm trying to set this up for a friend. I never used a sub in my home setup. he basically has his monitors plugged directly into the subs(when he turns off the sub the monitors turn off too) I told him this doesn't seem right but I'm not sure what's right. seems like the monitors should go to the interface
that's generally the way a sub will be setup with monitors. In my case, I could route another output from my interface but that would bypass the built in crossover on the sub.
would you send a mono vocal track to a stereo aux track? when i change the output of my mono channel it routes to a stereo aux automatically.
nothing wrong with that, actually I prefer it as I've done here. it gives you the flexibility to use stereo effects on a mono signal
@@SeanDivine thanks man!
Came bck here because I had another question. When sending a track over to an aux track how do u determine how much signal to send?
it depends, if you're just creating buses then you would set the outputs to the aux tracks. For reverbs and other effects where you're using sends, you would send as much as you want the effect to be wet. I.e. think of it as a wet / dry control for the aux
Sean Divine kinda figured that. Just needed the technical answer.
Sean Divine thank you
question irrelevant to this video. what do you do if you have a quiet vocal?
like without compression, it's barely audible in the mix
Genesis generally that will be the case, especially if the beat is already at commercial levels. Your vocal won't be that loud until you start compressing with make-up gain
right. i read an article that said the audio should be coming in at about -18 dbs. ive had cases where its lower. i think i just need a better recording space though. thank for the reply!
hey sean how come when ever i do this, i get phase issues. its super frustrating.
make sure you're routing to a stereo bus, that way you can route mono signals (panned) and have the control there
@@SeanDivine my issue comes when i drop certain plugins on the chain. I usually run mono tracks to stereo Aux bus. but itâs like only certain plugins introduce this wearied phase sound
yo prests work in reaper??
So aux in a track just for extra processing on a track that gets mixed with the parent track thats still being sent to master and a bus is a group of tracks that are sent to a track and controled by that one bus track?
Clear as mud.
Still confused but thanks for trying lol
been rarely do i dislike a video and I've looked quite a few of yours. but i must say man you did a terrible job of explaining this.
i explain it this way.
buses are used to add effects to a or control volume on a single or group of tracks. it's important to note that busses will apply effects on top of whatever effects you already have on the tracks.
sends on the other hand allow you to apply an effect to a single track.
bus= effects to lots of tracks for better control
send= effects to one track .. so it doesn't fuck up the rest â ïž
How do you do this with a physical analog board?
It would have been much simpler if you started with a blank setup with NO Tracks and showed how to build it from scratch. The setup you are showing is overwhelming , and I had to view it several times , pausing and going backwards to try to make sense out of the explanation. Thanks for the effort anyway.
How is bus 7 arriving at school B if it is school B???????
nnnooooo. It assumes I know stuff at 1:15, for instance, lets assume you have an aux track... what, I don't know what that aux track is already!... lost from the get go.
tutorial starts at @0:53
Pffff... why with a blown up mixer? đ„ș Lol. I just read the other comments, so itâs not only me. Dude keep it simple! This is waaaaaay toooo much and not even from scratch
tutorial starts at 1:10 you're welcome
what if I didn't the school bus?
Bro, are you being held captive in a basement somewhere?
Your updated video is much better, Iâm just constructively recommending you take this one down because its a really poor explanation that only confuses the tricky subject even further. Just saying. Fanks đ» OK, byeđ¶đŒ
This wasn't the best video here lol.
Not very well explained !!!
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