SHOULD YOU BUY A MIG OR A STICK WELDER FIRST? HIDDEN WELDING SECRETS REVEALED

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  • @mattwaters6987
    @mattwaters6987 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Great video guys. My son bought me a stick welder to learn on. Glad he did. I'm just a DIY'er. I'm using 7014 rod.😊

  • @cutweldngrind
    @cutweldngrind Před 2 lety +6

    A Lincoln 225 buzz box was my first stick machine and still have it. Well good video by the way.

  • @cchemmes-seeseeart3948
    @cchemmes-seeseeart3948 Před rokem +1

    Great video. Thanks. Very helpful.

  • @thewishmastur
    @thewishmastur Před 11 měsíci +1

    Excellent video. Very helpful.

  • @ronwatson3237
    @ronwatson3237 Před 8 měsíci

    Excellent info!

  • @MisterVenturi
    @MisterVenturi Před rokem +4

    so for those of you in a rush, video basically said MIG has more going on, it's more convenient if you know what you're doing. Stick is cheaper, harder to screw up welding with it, takes less skill to master. Cheaper when things go wrong.

    • @engjds
      @engjds Před měsícem +1

      No one thinks stick is easier than MIG, once machine is set up, its a piece of cake. Stick takes a very steady hand, practice, especially striking that arc on 7018 takes time to master.

  • @victorforte1605
    @victorforte1605 Před rokem +1

    Cool points! Question I have does one weld better than the other?

  • @kris-english
    @kris-english Před 2 lety

    I love Chucky's laugh!

  • @joemurray8902
    @joemurray8902 Před 4 měsíci

    Nice!

  • @bennyschapero2049
    @bennyschapero2049 Před rokem

    Good video...

  • @45NUTS_PART_DEUX
    @45NUTS_PART_DEUX Před 2 lety

    Second the motion - I like That Too

  • @garysue7561
    @garysue7561 Před rokem +2

    A cheap arc welder will do its job, pretty much consistently well. A cheap mig welder will give you more headaches than its worth so if you're going mig, make sure you choose one that will definitely output enough current

  • @welderdude1
    @welderdude1 Před rokem +1

    I prefer SMAW due to simplicity of setup and the versitility of high cellulose rods.

    • @luciusirving5926
      @luciusirving5926 Před rokem +1

      You can also use an AC buzzbox and a twin carbon arc torch to substitute oxyacetylene.

  • @tomnassar5884
    @tomnassar5884 Před 6 měsíci +1

    There's always flux core wire welding. It can produce decent results - no gas.

  • @icarus3604
    @icarus3604 Před rokem

    Hi guys, Great vid,
    I’m new to this.. Should I buy a mig machine that has the ability to stick weld or do I get a dedicated stick machine? Thanks in advance 👍🏽👍🏽

    • @engjds
      @engjds Před měsícem +1

      Learn stick, everything after that will seem easy, even TIG.

  • @AutodidactEngineer
    @AutodidactEngineer Před 9 měsíci +1

    My dad has been doing auto body work for 45 years, he never used mig or tig only 0.8-1mm E6013 electrodes!

    • @engjds
      @engjds Před měsícem

      He is a star, its a complete B***RD to weld thin on stick!. Chasing holes.

  • @grampapaul52
    @grampapaul52 Před 2 lety

    Just wondering if your a member of A.W.S. I joined after taking welding classes in college.

  • @1hunnybadger
    @1hunnybadger Před 2 lety +15

    Stick is much more amateur friendly, can weld "dirty" metals a bit easier and is much easier to use outside where environmental controls are less of an issue, ie. windy, dusty, ect. It is much easier to use MIG in a shop environment where fumes are an issue, you better have plenty of ventilation if you are ARC welding in a shop. If you want to weld at your kitchen table..... buy a TIG machine... 😆 🤣 😂

    • @Then.72
      @Then.72 Před 4 měsíci

      Try a 6G with the Stick and use flux cored wire with the Mig and then you’ll need an extractor fan ! Mig is only classed as semi skilled but stick is skilled and also Tig which replaced Oxy/Acetylene

  • @ForestForTheTrees3283
    @ForestForTheTrees3283 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You can't GMAW in the wind.

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  • @TheCommanderDash
    @TheCommanderDash Před 3 měsíci

    great to know any stick works with any metal and any amp and voltage. i guess stick wins, and based on the paper is much easier to use. just hit the stick to the metal and im good to go

    • @engjds
      @engjds Před měsícem

      LOL, good luck, its really not that easy.

  • @denniscarter2224
    @denniscarter2224 Před 3 měsíci

    You can weld in some wind with a stick welder .

    • @-o-The-Duke-o-
      @-o-The-Duke-o- Před 2 měsíci

      as with a flux core machine.

    • @engjds
      @engjds Před měsícem

      Yeah, its bean friendly.

  • @cv8683
    @cv8683 Před rokem +2

    Dinosaurs laid eggs. Eggs came first. The first chicken evolved from an egg laying ancestor hence egg came first.

  • @-o-The-Duke-o-
    @-o-The-Duke-o- Před 2 měsíci

    I guess cheap Flux Core machines threw a wrench into all this reasoning.

  • @kaidakemes1260
    @kaidakemes1260 Před 4 měsíci

    Lincoln electric tombstone 🪦

  • @usefulcontent9894
    @usefulcontent9894 Před 2 lety +2

    Eggs came first. Dinosaurs laid eggs.

  • @jamesward5721
    @jamesward5721 Před 2 lety +14

    Welding thin sheet? Buy a Mig.
    Welding anything else - buy a stick. If it has to be tough & take stress, buy a stick. Any stick-welder.
    If you're buying a Mig, buy a good Mig, spend the money (you're already balls deep if you're buying a Mig - might as well do it properly - do what she does when she buys shoes/a handbag - lie about the price - it's acceptable in this case) - cheap Mig welders are almost always nasty. If Retail is 100 bucks, it cost 20 bucks to make - you can't build a Mig for 20 bucks. So don't buy 100 buck Migs. Buy one where the price hurts - you'll forget the price, you'll never forget a crap Mig machine you struggled with.
    If you're buying a stick welder, buy any stick-welder - cheap is fine - the quality of stick welding is defined by the quality of the nut holding onto the stinger not the brand name on the side. Hint - You're the nut holding the stinger... Educate the Nut.. You can stick weld off a car battery if you really have to - Hint: stick welders can be built OK on the cheap. Migs not so much.
    If you're buying a Tig & know why, chances are nobody needs explain welding to you. If you're buying a Tig & are unsure why - buy a stick welder instead - preferably a cheap one. Tig is OK if you're getting paid by the inch for "Special/Pretty" - if you just want 2 bits of metal joined together, avoid Tig, buy a stick - and buy some good 7018 or 6013 rods - don't cheap out on the rods. Good rods can be the difference between crap stick welding & passable stick welding - passable is always nicer. If it doesn't break after you glue it together, you're winning - sticks the easiestish way to get there. I started welding with a crap-as-can-be Clarke stick welder age 15 - crap as it was, it did exactly what it said on the tin. It was the nut holding on the stinger that needed fettling, not the machine. I fettled that nut.
    TLDR? Wanna weld? Buy a cheapo stick welder & learn how to use it properly. Work from there.

    • @Thatdamfishingguy
      @Thatdamfishingguy Před 2 lety

      I’m that welder that gets paid buy the inch aka piece rate tig welder if anyone wants to see my work check out some of my CZcams shorts #thatdamfishingguy by the way this guy is right and not to mention you can you the stick machine to tig weld do it all the time

    • @pocatefo1
      @pocatefo1 Před rokem +1

      Muy buen comentario amigo 👏

    • @gabrieljordan9977
      @gabrieljordan9977 Před rokem +3

      Dude, you just said exactly my thoughts about stick, mig and tig welding. To me stick welding is always first

    • @mark_luna
      @mark_luna Před 9 měsíci +1

      Exactly what I needed to hear. Thanks James!!

    • @jamesward5721
      @jamesward5721 Před 9 měsíci

      @@mark_luna I would add that Yeswelder - who don't pay me - sell a stick machine for about 80 quid. I bought one. It is tiny & is also AMAZING. Rods will not stick to the workpiece - computer say no - so you will rapidly learn how to weld good using one & they weld as good as or better than ANY other machine at any price point I have ever tried. They are amazing little cheap machines. Buy one. Thank me later. :-)

  • @bobd.fletcherjr4912
    @bobd.fletcherjr4912 Před rokem

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  • @lagitmalu227
    @lagitmalu227 Před 2 měsíci

    Stick it is

  • @aristokorat7599
    @aristokorat7599 Před rokem +1

    fluxcore..best of both worlds..so the answer is mig..a mig can stick and tig

    • @engjds
      @engjds Před měsícem

      Depends on the MIG, many do not have power outlets.

  • @Imtiangba
    @Imtiangba Před 8 měsíci

    Stick welding & gas welding will be better ?!

  • @engjds
    @engjds Před měsícem

    Anyone that thinks stick is easier than MIG is going to be in for a surprise, ignoring set up time, stick takes far longer to master.

  • @milanmilicevic4618
    @milanmilicevic4618 Před rokem

    First chicken and later egg.

  • @AdHocAtom
    @AdHocAtom Před 4 měsíci

    The egg would have come first not the chicken. Any evolutionary step/advancement would have to start with the egg, certainly not laid by a chicken but the leap from x to chicken would have happened in the egg not the fowl that laid it.

  • @archygrey9093
    @archygrey9093 Před rokem

    The egg came first.

  • @willhorting5317
    @willhorting5317 Před 2 lety

    And the "secret" was?

  • @luciusirving5926
    @luciusirving5926 Před rokem

    SMAW is much easier and cheaper to get into.
    ProRancher is a mediocre welder for choosing GMAW over the most original welding process known to man. The real life equivalent of a noob.
    I could just tack on sheet metal with SMAW if I must weld thin-gauge material.
    With that said, spool guns can be very useful. But welding aluminum with fluxed-core aluminum rods and a twin carbon arc torch is much cheaper. I might feed sulfur hexaflouride or argon to a such a torch later and mimic atomic hydrogen welding.

  • @ozciva
    @ozciva Před rokem

    Come on man. Be fair. You have to find the right wire speed and voltage on mig, which are on the box already, but you don't have to find the right diameter electrode and the current for the stick?

    • @trevorstrutt1
      @trevorstrutt1 Před rokem

      U think those settings they have on the cheap suitcase welders are accurate on mig ? Lol stick is much easier then mig..to make it do its job and get gd penetration etc anyways ..

    • @engjds
      @engjds Před měsícem

      @@trevorstrutt1 Have you actually tried stick? striking and maintaining an ARC on 7018 can take a beginner weeks to master, maybe a year to get consistant good welds, MIG took me like first try to get a decent looking weld.

  • @kaidakemes1260
    @kaidakemes1260 Před 4 měsíci

    Learn stick first

  • @TheMrshawnpaul
    @TheMrshawnpaul Před 7 měsíci

    Sorry, but you’re wrong, the egg for sure came first. The question is not “What came first, the chicken or the chicken’s egg?”, the type of egg is not specified. Aquatic eggs for sure came first, in fact, that’s how life moved from water to the land.