Can My OBS Ford F-250 Power Stroke Beat All the New Diesels on Our Denver 100 MPG Loop?
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im starting to think its better to invest money in the older trucks then the crazy prices of the new
I would go back to my 2001 because of the emissions, but it doesn’t tow near as well as my 22.
My 07 Tacoma has 252k miles. Wouldn’t trade it for anything new. Even sold my 21 ram 1500 big horn
I drive my 76 w200 big block 4 speed powerwagon daily for work around my acreage.
It always starts
It always drives
Never gives me any problems
My 07 classic body duramax runs fine over 300k miles. Besides the ifs front end it’s been a good truck to me
The old stuff was good , built to be work horses , not show ponies.
I can guarantee you get more head turns in this truck than a new one too.
That will come in handy when I become a teenager again and want to impress people and pick up chicks.
It would. Can't go anywhere with my powerwagon without someone wanting to buy it
It would definitely catch my eye that’s for sure. Beautiful truck.
@@garysarratt1what a stupid comment
Hasn’t been my experience. New trucks turn way more heads.
The emissions makes a huge difference on these new trucks.
I did a run back a few months back from Vancouver island to Saskatoon (1600kms) to pick up a new travel trailer in my gmc canyon that the emissions stuff sort of fell off.
The trip computer said 6.8 liters per hundred kilometers which is just under 35 mpg.
Pretty good for a truck 👍
Amazing really
I had one of those, a 2016 Colorado 4x4. With everything intact and factory tune, my best trips averaged 33-34mpg. No DPF issues, only had the DEF heater in the supply line fail and that was it.
Damn
Ya once you hit that big bump that knocks off the emissions stuff those 2.8l are nice engines.
Older trucks are better, cheaper, and as long as you maintain them you won't have to pay the outrageous prices the Big 3 want for their vehicles. Even if your old truck engine dies it is still cheaper to fix it. ❤ TFL.
appreciate that man💪🏿
17.8 mpg is excellent for 75mph speed limit. I think the biggest reason these trucks got 20mpg when new is because the speed limits back then were 55 or 60. Do this test again at those speeds and u will see an improvement
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The speed limits haven't been slower than they are now for like 30 years. That's not it. However, people probably DID drive slower 25+ years ago since their trucks didn't have 500 hp like now....
Very good point
Also what people don't realize or pay attention to is that mpg is an average. Depending on things like throttle position. Engine load how easy one is with the pedals the engine will actually get better mpg at times as well as lower therefor averaging out to 17.8. Oh and we can't forget the elevation that the engine is traveling which affects the air density
The speed limit on the freeway (round here) was 70mph when that pickup was new. The switch to ULSD cost me 5mpg until I retuned for it. Now having said all that, running empty these trucks are way over geared, as long as his alignment is good they only require about 40-45 hp to go 80 on level ground (with the tires I tested mine with it varied from 38-47).
I have a few obs 7.3. Love them but the new trucks sure are more comfortable to drive long distances with a large amount of weight behind you.
no power!!! but very reliable!!
Put 4k into them they make some power. My 95 makes 425hp and 866tq at the wheels stage 1.5 injectors, turbo, tuning
@@Turbotalkin I do have plenty of power in one of them. The automatics just don't have enough gearing. The manuals aren't much better in my opinion. Drivability is nowhere near as nice.
@@jdboy9 yeah thats fair. Obs it a complete driver experience exspiscally with a 5speed
Does the newer 6spd bolt up behind it? Or is it split ratio, same od?
4:40 "I am getting on a horse."🤣
It even has a stirrup.
That is what I say about one of my ATVs. Its an Artic Cat Mud Pro. Its like getting on a horse the thing sits so high with those basically tractor tires that are on it. I have got leg cramps before just getting on or off it lol
I miss my 7.3 but have been loving my 6.0 for the crazy power boost . Was expensive to make reliable tho :(
For simplicity I chose the old 7.3 .... I don't need all the extra fancy stuff , a basic truck is perfect for me
this might be one of the best Mr. truck episodes so far. He really got contentious and talked about the real stuff that old truck guys think about. I mean obviously it’s a little bit of a bit and we get that but that’s part of the fun. Mr. truck wisdom is always appreciated, especially in combination with Andres excellent banter.
Thanks so much
My 1996 f250 automatic complete stock with 3:73 gets 14 to 16mpg with no trailer. I've been impressed with what it gets . With trailer usually we get 12 to 14 mpg . That's with hills and valleys here in wny . My 1995.5 super duty f450 got around 10 to 8 mpg 😆 that was not good on fuel at all but made straight for towing
I love how excited MT gets with the OBS. It sounded like the truck could really use another gear. Have all the same ratios but with a sixth gear overdrive you might have been able to squeeze out one more mpg.
I own basically the same truck but with 3:55 gears. Towing, hauling and driving I average 18-22 mpg.
These trucks aren't as fast or capable as the new stuff but they are bomb proof.
Almost every time I fuel up someone will walk over and check out the old Ford.
They are good fun
How many miles on yours?
Here in the UK, I have a 27 year old vehicle too. A 1997 Defender 2.5 litre diesel. On a flat motorway/highway it does around 33mpg (imperial gallons), 28 in hilly areas. I have had 38mpg in the desert in Morocco.
65 mph that's the Happy stop . It's where they like to cruise at and get the best mpg. Start pushing 70 and above it starts kills the mpg .and thats True of really all the diesel pickup from that time. My dad had a 95 Chevy extended cab with 6.5 turbo diesel the difference in mpg going 65 to going 70 + was very noticeable .
The 92-97 Heavy duty OBS Fords were great trucks. We have our 96 F-350 still and it’s so much fun to drive.
My 2021 F350 Tremor has 3.55’s and it can get 21mpg pretty often (hand calculated) I’m impressed that 7.3 managed to get 17.8 given the rpm it was running down the highway.
We love our 7.3's too. In fact, that what we specialize in.
love my 1999 7.3 with zf6 manual 6sp with 3.73 rearend, extended cab 4x4. been manually calculating every tank for the last decade and get 20mpg if i nurse it on highway trips between 55-60mph, 18.5 normally with a reasonable foot for combined city/hwy, and about 17 when I have a 1000lb slip-on pop up FWC Grandby camper. I run amsoil, Redline, and Schaffer lubricants and have 255k on the odometer..... plan on keeping it for a long time.
50-60 is the sweet spot for mileage.. more people need to realize this; if not for safety purposes only
would be interesting if someone were to mate a modern 10 speed to this old engine to see how it does.
Probably about as interesting as mating the modern 6.7 to that 5 speed manual.
@@ALMX5DP So...super interesting right?
@@bgb702 absolutely, both those would be really fun experiments to see what the effect would be.
@@ALMX5DPa clutch in my ‘13 powerstroke would be fantastic!
Great video! Mr. Truck looks like he’s still dropping some pounds. Be careful Mr. Truck winter is around the corner us healthy guys need to keep some insulation.
This video brings back some good memories. Had this same truck in gray. It was a work horse back in the day for me. Never checked the MPG back then because Diesel was under or at $1.00 per gallon.
Thanks
Good fun fellas thx
One thing they should factor in, is DEF fluid because it's far from free and is a factor in overall mpg... Also One thing the older truck does not have that the new ones do is some stupid reduced power check engine light because of some random DPF sensor...
I got so disgusted at the New Diesels being unreliable that I traded a 2020 Ram Cummins that I had so many problems with the DPF, DEF, injectors, fuel pump and ECM that I got a 2022 Ram with the 6.4 Hemi, so for after a year it hasn't been to the shop 1 time. The 2020 was at the Dealership 4 months the last year I had it!! TERRABLE.
@@jamesorr2832you can thank our "benevolent" government bureaucrats for destroying diesels in this country. I wish we had more access to vehicles equipped with diesel engines that aren't neutered.
Agree 100%@@jeepinintexas6215
I just took delivery of my new 2023 F550 Lariat extended cab with the 7.3 for this very reason. It's as much old school gas guzzling tech that you can buy right now. @@jamesorr2832
Your comment made me lmao
Very impressive results!
It is always fun to see Andre and Mr. Truck together!
Thanks
Sounds about right, we had a 1997 F350 basic crew cab dually with a gravel box that averaged 15mpg basically loaded (5 gallon paint cans, cleaning supplies, three pallets of electical pedestals...) while towing a tandem axle flatbed trailer loaded with a lift of 2x10's (16ft long) at 80 mph that still had it's factory original catalytic converter which were only installed on the 7.3 for 1997.
My 2003 f250 7.3 does horrible on fuel mileage. Best I’ve ever seen is 16 mpg. It’s a automatic with 3.73 gear ratio. We’ve done everything to it to help with fuel efficiency. When we bought it best it did was about 14-15 mpg.
Yeah id love to know what all these people seem to be doing different. I've owned 2 different 7.3's. A 97 and my current, an 02. I've hand tracked every tank on fuelly. My averages are right about 13mpg. Best I ever got was nursing it purely on the highway and got 17.
I have an 03 with a 6.0 automatic 4x4 3.73 gears with 280k miles on it on factory sized tires took a 4 hour trip to Atlanta with cruise set at posted limit and only averaged 18.2mpg and it usually get 15ish with a 10k lbs trailer behind it on trips under 40 miles one way on four lane at 65mph.
Really digging the rusty razor blade on top of the pump @1:35
Lower horsepower levels mean less fuel used. It makes sense. And it looks so much better than new trucks.
always enjoy these mr truck and andre videos
Thanks
A few weeks ago I drove a nearly identical OBS 7.3 5 speed manual with 4.10 gears (completely stock) from Pennsylvania to Alaska towing a flat bed with an atv, plow and tool box. My brother in law drove a stock 2020 ram 3500 towing a lightly loaded 7x16 enclosed trailer. I led he followed the entire drive. Worst mileage I got was 12.5 with the best being 15. He couldn't break 12 and kept getting between 10.5 and 11. Plus I got stopped 4 times with pleasant comments about the OBS. No one talked to him about his truck. I do plan on doing the Banks full kit on my truck in the near future to make it even better.
I’ve got a ‘96 2wd powerstroke ccsb and i get about 18 to 22 highway. 16 or so pulling 10k LBs. These trucks are beasts.
We had a Sinclair station back east in Edison New Jersey, I haven't seen one back East since I was a kid.
Great video. Great comparison.
I agree with the old truck performance. I have a ‘99 cab and a half, long bed, 6sp manual, 4x4, with 7.3, 3.73 - 100% stock. I get the same MPG highway.
In Sept I bought a used ‘22, crew, long bed, 4x4, 6.7, 3.55, 100% stock with 24,000 on the clock. Driving it from Michigan to NY - 675 miles, averaging 75 mph, I saw 21.7 as my MPG. I landed in NY with 1/4 tank of fuel and 325 miles range.
This was about 2 mpg better than a friend with nearly an identical truck with the 6 speed transmission.
My only flag on this comparison is the dually crew vs srw cab and a half. Lots more weight and drag on the drw.
Around town however the ‘99 beats the ‘22 boasting 20mpg. Where I live is flat and I can idle everywhere in 6th.
Finally got my 97 OBS 7.3 4x4 about 4 years ago... close to 300k on it. Runs like a top. Strong and reliable.... plus that straight pipe💪🏼🤤
I’ll never get rid of my 97’ 7.3 turbo crew cab 5spd 4x4 and can’t count how many times I’ve been asked to sell it! 🇨🇦👍great video
I can’t decide which father/son duo I love more on TFL. Keep on truckin 👍
Any duo that includes Roman is unbearable. He's like a budget local anchorman from the 1990s
@@mphRagnarok Tommy is a great presenter though. He has honestly become my favorite for series on their channels. Will say though...Mr. Truck seemed to be running way off script in this episode and it was very annoying.
I like off the script, it's a nice change. @@Free_Range_4x4
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My 96 crewcab 4x4 gets 17mpg with Opti-lube and not using the AC. Love these things.
I daily drove a almost identical truck for about 14 years. 97 f250 extended cab long bed 4x4 with 7.3 and manual trans. Mine also had 4.10 gears and a Dana 60 swapped with in front. I ran 37’s on stock f350 suspension and it helped bring the rpm down a lot on the highway. I kept track of my mpg for years and it always averaged around 19. I would do about 70 on the highway, helps a lot.
I had a 07 5.9 mega cab for awhile but just sold it. I'm just driving a hand me down grand cherokee that my wife used to drive, not sure what i'm going to buy next. @caseybaker1147
Nice seeing MR TRUCK back on the show.
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My 96 regular cab 7.3 LB has a 22 gallon front tank. It's as stock as it was day one. 4.10 gears, 4x4, automatic and I get 17 MPG
Can you run the loop with the “efficiency” mode from the programmer next to see if it has an impact
Really enjoyed the video, I would love to hear more details about the repairs to the transmission etc and how that worked out?
I'm still kicking myself, had a chance to get a 2003 F250 with 7.3 mated to a 6 speed manual. Imagine that rebuild and tuned!!!
I have a 97 2 wd with 3.55 gears and the 5 speed manual. Truck is stock and I can get over 20 mpg empty. I regularly get 15-16 towing a typical loaded car trailer. I’m in hilly terrain also. But it’s slow and tows much less compared to the modern trucks.
I would love to see this on the highest power setting I bet you would get better. Almost every time tuned to the highest power get better mpg!
Hmmm. I just drove from Montana to North Carolina in my 21 Duramax LTZ and averaged just under 22 mpgs, 2,200 miles. Averaged around 75mph the whole trip.
Were you towing
Above 17.6 ?? hell no !!!!! That guy is awesome. He's just straight up. Love it.
Back in the day, people typically only bought Trucks when they worked them..
The OBS is a timeless look as well.
2023 Superduty looks like a LEGO
I daily my 95' 7.3 and costs me $60 per week. Would love a new 6.7 but the CP4, exhaust system and leaky upper oil pan doesn't sound fun or cheap.
Loud and fast that's how I like my diesel truck!
I have had quite a few older trucks but most of them were big blocks. Some of them I was probably lucky to get 10mpg unloaded. My ramp truck which I guess isn't fair to compare against a 3/4 ton but if I had a car on the back plus one behind me I got about 4mpg. 95 Chevy with a 454. You can watch the fuel gauge drop as you drive lol.
454's are huge gas hogs. I have a 1980 GMC one ton camper special with the 454 that I haul cord wood and hay with and the MPG is terrible, LOL. Luckily I don't use the truck that often. My big diesel trucks do much better.
You guys are having way too much fun. Awesome video.
Thanks
If you could manage it it'd be awesome to compare an obs with a 460 to a similar trim newer truck with the godzilla just to see how technology has changed in the last 20 years for gas trucks
A good true comparison of this truck would be the titanXD with the 5.0 Cummins. That was a great efficient truck. I got 20 plus mpg very similar to this loop. Soo unfortunate that truck didn’t survive.
I have a 2001 Excursion with the 7.3 Powerstroke and the 3.73 rear end. It’s stock other than an intake and exhaust and isn’t lifted.
I get 18.6 MPG unloaded when doing long highway drives.
My 99 7.3 crew cab 4x4 f250 with 3.73 gets 20mpg on highway trips and 15 around town. 10mpg when towing our 32ft 13,000 pound 5th wheel flat or in the mountains either way lol
My 1995 F350 crew cab w/ 8ft. bed and the infamous 7.3 Powerstroke was dismal on short trips to and from work. those trips were usually 80mph + on the highway and then stuck in traffic jams the rest of the time. There I only got 16-17 MPG. But. When you got that beast on the open highway and do the legal limit, 65, I would get 25 + MPG. A little bit better. I see how much better new trucks are and can't wait to buy one....just as soon as they cost less than my house.
got a 91 k2500 with 454, 4spd and c6p option (1 ton frame and no emissions) gets 11mpg loaded or not 9 if im hauling something like a 30ft camper. 556,375 miles on it. outlasts everything but the turn for a fuel station.
It's exactly as Mr Truck said, that thing kicks a-- lol!!!!!! I lv it keep up the great content guys. That truck is sweet!!
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Right the 410 was for pulling and work trucks. Most people only used the truck for work also. I guess people use them as daily drivers. The noise wow to me the noise and the mechanic feel to drive one was the best makes you feel like you are driving a real truck! That being said that is a nice truck a new one would be nice as well and it would be nice to know which preforms better a new or old that is a huge argument!
My 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins (Auto, sadly) with a stock tune usually gets around 17 mpg combined city/hwy without a load. My all time record was 21.6 mpg on a tank, that was almost all highway.
Get a first gen 2wd Dodge with a VE pump, 5spd and 3.07 gears if you want good mpg.
Mines got 3:54s but get 21mpg on the highway unloaded. Fuel screw is not buried though and 1.5 turns out.
I'd like to see you guys do some injectors and a turbo and see how they compare then.
I'm of the opinion a newer truck will still outclass this in every way but price...
But it would be nice to see exactly what 3x the money gets you.
Crazy the 6.6 Gasser got considerably better. The big difference is how much bigger and taller new HDs are. They are also about 2000 more pounds
Very true, that 6.6 GM gasser did very well unloaded at around 19 MPG. This particular 97’ ford had the large tires and tow gearing hurting it in MPG. Factory tires and 3.73 would probably get it above 19.
Not sure I would rate 1mpg as _"considerably better"_ ...
@@grumpyengg5978 that 6.6 has 34” tires stock and is a much bigger truck overall
@@WaspMedia3D almost 2 mpg difference which is about 10% with a much bigger truck, crew cab and a gas motor that takes cheaper fuel and has almost 200 more hp and twice the towing capacity
@@Billybob50119 It's 8.4% better, actually ... Imagine, a truck over a quarter of a century old, being bested by only 8.4% in mileage with much larger tires and lower gear ratio than today's best there is on offer.
Unless you are just trying to suggest that truck manufacturers have made improvements to their products over the last 26 years? 😮 Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me ...
I have 2 of these trucks now, and have had closer to a dozen others before. It's aweful hard to beat an old OBS 7.3, in my opinion! Thanks for making this content!
Your MPG results are support by my personal experience in my OBS F250 (7.3 PS, 5 s/p, 4.10:1 rear gear, Rear wheel drive only) If I drive real easy (slow) in 5th gear, I can get around 20 MPG. More realistic is 18 MPG keeping up with the flow of traffic.
I had a 97 F350 single cab ZF5 manual 4x4 with 4.10 gears. With a 80hp tune, AFE CAI, and a Banks 3" downpipe I could consistently get 23mpg if I stayed under 70mph
That’s good mileage for a 7.3 with 4.10 gears. My 2000 has the 7.3 with 3.73 gears, and while running from Reno to Truckee everyday for work I’ve been getting 19.9 to 20.2 mpg. And I run it on the 40 HP level on my Hydra chip. FYI, that little box in the cab is only the controller, the chip is on the computer.
I get over 20mpg with my 1991 7.3 idi, zf5 (same transmission as this truck), 4x4, 285/70/16 Yokohama geolander g003's and 3.55 gear ratio axles. Its at a very low 1800rpm with doing 65.
No doubt this one would have been able to hit 20 with 3.55
I have a 1999.5 lariat 7.3, and evern with a service body bed swap and tools in it which probably add 1000 pounds to the truck, i still get around 15mpg combined. When I moved from Phoenix Az to Maple Valley Wa, I towed my corvette on a uhaul trailer, and with all my stuff crammed in my vette, bed, and in the extended cab backseat, that was probably about 6250lbs ish, towing through the hills in north az into south utah, and throught the mountions in east oregon and over the snoquamie I-90 pass in washington, I was getting 12-13 mpg. I thought I would be getting like 9 but nope :)
Awesome video guys... I own a 1996 F350 xlt power stroke crew cab crew dully. Im in the process of learning more about it. This truck is new to me so im now watching videos and asking questions. Im not sure what millage i get, havent checked because it seems to be getting real good mileage. I do have a question regarding the GPS App that your using on your phone. Please tell what app it is. Or can you link me to it? I'd sure appreciate it, Thanks...
Do I keep my death wobble'd 2020 F250 6.7L and beef up suspension and steering or upgrade to the new 2023 super duty? I have heard the 2023 steering components are a bit more robust, but not quite sure...
You're not telling the whole story, you have to calculate these tests at cost per mile so you can include that exhaust fluid.
Ah I have fond memories of flipping the tank switch on my moms F-150 in the 80s. Thought it was so cool.
I’ve total a buddy with a 2004 Ram 3500 dually diesel with about 120,000 miles on it. His sister has a 2016 Ram 3500 diesel. He actually gets better gas mileage than she does both driving and towing. And doesn’t have to pay for DEF.
I daily a 96 7.3 and I literally go get groceries in it.
I was betting on the 7.3. My son had one and drove fro Wa to Ca and got @ 20. the slower you go the better mpg's when it revs high for a diesel. put a 6 speed in there and drop the rpm's and you have solid truck without a Nanny or Def.
I have a 96 the same as that in in green. Everyone wants to talk about it or buy it. You can keep your plastic fantastic new trucks. Im sure they're comfy and all but $$$$ to maintain!
I think you should do a retest on a higher tuned mode with that tuner. I have had multiple 7.3s get wayyyy better fuel economy that way! I think its worth a test
With my 95 f250 7.3 i get 21 mpg on average it's a 5 speed single cab 2wd so it's about as light as it gets. Also it has a ts 6 position chip a bigger turbo an intake and half of a 3in down pipe so my exhaust opens up halfway down the bell housing of my transmission and points straight at the ground. Another thing I noticed is the more miles you get the better fuel economy. As soon as i hit 200k i gained a mile per gallon and the same thing happened at 300k.
I had to laugh when Andre pulled his hat down! The entire video, i was silently screaming..... Pull the damn hats down, guys..... They look ridiculous!!!! LOL. Great video, as always. (But that wasn't a real fair comparison with the elevation climb, prevailing wind and higher speed on the newer truck!!!)
I feel like if you're silently screaming at a youtube video then you're probably overly emotionally invested. Maybe take a break from social media and go for a walk.
I've been saying it for years. The emissions crap they put on vehicles are nothing but a way to make money. Less comes out the tailpipe, but the vehicle is way less reliable. Having to have a tow truck tow your vehicle, the diesel that parts get delivered with and the environmental cost of manufacturing parts makes it about the same if not worse. Basically, cost of ownership went up, reliabilty went down, and environmental costs stayed the same.
Ok, but the modern diesel's have triple the power of the old ones, and the emissions staid the same. You can't deny that
I miss the old days when you could get a full sized pick up with a manual transmission, I’ll be keeping my 82 GMC C3500 Sierra Classic for the rest of my life it tows well even more than it says it should and the only difficulty is how much fuel she drinks
I went from a 1995 F250 DRW to a 2021 Silverado and can’t believe I wasted so much time messing with my old truck. 😂
I got a 96 F250 7 3 crew cab short bed with 355 gears and E40D transmisson On the highway it consistently gets 24 mpg
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FYI You also get biodiesel at Sinclair stations in colorado
My 2002 super cab 2wd shortbed F 250 7.3 with automatic would just touch 17.5 miles per gallon highway on its very best day,,, not bitching at all though, one hell of a great truck !!
I have a 2000 model with the six speed manual and I usually get around 15 in town. Best of 17.5, but I really don't ever drive on the highway. My dad had one new back in the day with an automatic and he took a trip and he said the best mileage was when he was in Alaska because the speed limit was 55. Over that really started to hurt his mileage. I don't remember the numbers he got though.
I love the 7.3 it's the shit.
My 2022 f250 with the 7.3 Godzilla was averaging 17.3 mpg on my run to NC from PA last week. While being minimum $1 cheaper per gallon. With 435 hp and 475 tq. I’d rather pay less for the same kind of power unless I literally have to tow a house around or something. 18000 tow rating is good for me
Ya love my 96 dodge Dakota 275 thousand on the dash with new everything just about.. 😊
Does anyone know if a 96 dodge Dakota 3.9 4x4.os it LSD diff??
Lets see what I can do with my 88 Magnum Bronco. F350 chassis, 4 door custom bronco. I'm pulling the old 460 out, dropping in a turbocharged small block ford. Also updating transmission to a 4r70w and controlling it all with a Holley EFI system. Im very curious what the mileage will be with the new engine.
Wonder what happened to the older rav4 videos this reminded me of it.
Now what’s the MPG with both trucks while towing the Denver 100? They are work trucks how efficient are they while towing?
I am curious as to what the mileage would be with the programer set to lvl 12 or lvl 10 to compare the mileage with a higher hp setting. I had a 2001 Excursion 2wd with and auto and 3:73 gears and a Hypertech Power Programmer at the highest setting , and it smoothed out on idle ,started faster, and changed my shift points on the transmission, with fuel mileage always above 20 mpg . That was living in California with their poor diesel, it always ran better with Oregon or Nevada fuel in it.
So very curious if the would be better.
If you put 265/75-16 on the OBS you would see a significant gain in MPG.
Both trucks should have factory tire sizes or very close to it. In order to truly test correctly.
I have also seen the opposite effect... if you have bigger tires your going to be running lower rpm going down the highway....
@@sethperry1323 - I have seen a lot of people say this, but the higher ride height and heavier tire typically do not translate to gains in the real world. At least not for me. (I've had high hopes with several jeeps and trucks in the past)
However, if your truck takes a 245/75-16 and you put on a 285/75- the tire will weigh about the same, and be taller, but the smaller contact patch might provide gains.
The hp and torque ratings are comprable to a 3.0L Ecodiesel or a 3.OL Duramax. I would love to see a Chevy Silverado 2500 3.0 Duramax. 4.10 ratio and 33" or 34" tires would perform very well.
Back in the 80's, I had a '79 Ford F-250 Supercab with the 351-engine, and a T-18 transmission. With 4.1 gears and 235/85-16 tires, it got 16mpg @ 75mph. It did have a thrush turbo muffler and a degreed cam with a double roller chain. But was otherwise stock. I have driven every one the large pickups during work duties. The new trucks are so much nicer and more economical. Too bad the manufacturers did not install the EGR draw after the DPF and SCR. Way back in '07, or whenever EGR and DEF started being used.
The thing is, add a little bit of weight to the 3 liters and mileage goes out the window .
@@rodgood Towing a 7,000# trailer with the 3.0L, I got 16mpg. Towing the same trailer, over the same route with the 6.7L, I got 13mpg.
maybe but my point is that the 3.0 will not get anywhere near 25 mpg empty on an 2500 with 34inch tires @@jameseroh6544
I used to have a 97 Cummins 2wd that would consistently get 24mpg. As high as 26.7 on a road trip once. My current 07 LBZ gets 20 fairly easily if I'm nice to it. My 2012 Cummins would get 14-16. The emissions equipment kills the MPG. I know it seems like an paradox, but as a powertrain engineer, I can attest to the fact that it often takes more fuel to clean up tailpipe. That goes for gas and diesel.
And don't anyone be commenting about deleting to save the truck or some shit. Rolling coal in old trucks, and deleting in new trucks is why we won't have diesel trucks soon. The leftoids are trying VERY hard to legislate them out of existence. For someone that actually needs a diesel for towing, that is a problem.
Y’all need to take Case’s old Cummins on that loop. I’m curious what that’ll do.
When 7.3 was out the speed limit was 55 mph., the extra 20 mph over affects mpg.