+boytoyville you are so right and i'm not saying she could've beaten her now but she had major potential and they didn't pace her correctly...they had her doing super difficult, taxing skills so early in the quad smh
1:54 Did you see his expression? It was like he was mad at her just because she landed a little wobbly! Seriously! Anyone could see she just wasn't ready to do those types of things. She is much happier in College
Kei Lee “uglier”? yeah sure maybe it was less difficult but both dismounts are gorgeous. valeri knows katelyns full capability and she didn’t land the way she probably was training so... also katelyn is much happier in college gymnastics now! no need to criticize either gymnast.
College gymnastics is watered down compared to elite. Of course your going to be happier with less pressure and eyes on you. If you want to be the best, at the pinnacle of your sport, you sacrifice a lot of the fun and happiness, for pressure and reward.
And this reckless coaching was rewarded with the head job at USAG. Ohashi has also publicly stated that Valeri weighed her daily which led to her starving herself and developing eating disorders.
@@jampots1000 he was trying to make her into nastia. But nastia has a very specific physiology just as Simone bikes does. You can't make someone into a different body.
In her interviews she says it was fans who body shamed her. Don't default to blaming Valeri just because he's Russian and our warring culture teaches us to hate.
It's sad how many gymnasts never get to shine as much as they could because of injuries. It's my favorite sport, but damn, it really beats up their bodies.
+De Yu i agree...same with beam. They had her performing some difficult skills like the olympics were around the corner when in actuality, they were 3 yrs away smh. Now she's retired from elite and all that potential is down the drain.
This is exactly why I didn't want Liukin anywhere near the national team. WOGA gymnasts have horrible histories of injuries. You don't see the same things from some of the other elite caliber coaches.
She looks so unhappy. Good thing she switched to college gymnastics. Edit: Just read the some of the other comments. Interesting how everyone else thinks she looks miserable to. The college route was definitely the best decision for her 😥
elite sports are so toxic, it's so sad. She's amazing, one of the best gymnasts in the world, and just for doing not-perfect-perfect in one time in a routine that 0,000000000000000001% of people can do, she's seen as a failure. It's heartbraking.
I'm a pianist and this is why I don't want to start competing and stuff in piano, bcs then it'll become less about the joy and more about making that perfect performance for the judges, and if you make one mistake ur a failure even if you're actually amazing
Elite GYMNASTICS is very toxic. I am heavily involved in the elite world of track and field- and it is an amazing environment. Yes, there is the occasional “bad apple” coach, but athletes rarely stick with them for long so they don’t tend to get very far. Our USA track team is a world power like few others, and we do it without being cruel to the athletes. Gymnastics is just an abhorrently abusive, toxic and disrespectful sport in general to its athletes.
i think what i find most amazing about this routine is how perfectly she transfers to the low bar at 0:48. it's like the bar is made of metal and her hands are magnets.
That coach would break me too. SO GLAD you found a fierce lioness as your new coach who could help you on the path of healing and true self worth. Bless you always Katelyn!! 🤸🏽♀️👍🏽💗🌈🌻
1:55 Honestly this makes my blood boil. He gave her a very challenging routine, which she executed very well, and he has the audacity to roll his eyes at her !? I’m so happy she doesn’t do Elite anymore, she’s an amazing gymnast and deserves to be happy doing while doing it.
i kind of drifted away from watching gymnastics for a while and i didn't even recognise katelyn when her UCLA video went viral because i was SO USED to seeing her gloomy expressions while competing at the elite level i just thought she was one of those who didn't really like to smile. what a difference.
To this day I can't believe Valeri made her do those difficult L grip pirouettes. It's painfully obvious she wasn't ready for them, or just doesn't have the shoulder flexibility to pull them off. also Tim wtf "just a little bit past handstand"
I don't know if it was here or not, but I know at one point, she was competing with two torn shoulders and a broken back. I could fully see this routine contributing to that.
I much rather have Nastia commentating than Elfie. Elfie is too critical and harsh whereas Nastia who is an American AND an AA champion has more compassion and still has the knowledge. She reminds me of Kathy Johnson who was also a great commentator.
Also does anyone notice how the floor music happening during this event gets incorporated into her senior college routine? I wonder if this event was part of the decision-making process for which songs to include. Because it's really symbolic of her ability to overcome the toxic environment she was in and really own the way SHE does gymnastics today.
It's sad, I don't think she'll make the next Olympics because of all the injuries she's had and I don't think she cares either. I saw an interview where she said she wants to go to college and take it easy. I wish she could have gone in 2012 when she really peaked. She had so much talent.
I wish Katelyn trained under Chow instead of Valeri. Look at the difference between Katelyn's elite outcome and Shawn Johnson's. Valeri pushed Katelyn into doing all these spins when it was obvious that she didn't have the flexible shoulders like Nastia to execute them well. Chow on the other hand, focused on helping Shawn perfect a simpler routine. The most important thing was that Chow made his gym a healthy mental environment, Norah Flatley, a UCLA gymnast that trained with Chow during her elite career, said that she always felt comfortable telling Chow about injuries or being too tired, and he would adjust the training to make sure he doesn't worsen her injuries, which now that the USA gymnastics scandel is out, shows that this is almost unheard of
Félicitations ma petite princesse Katelyn Ohashi je vote millions fois pour ma princesse de gymnastique USA et je te remercie beaucoup pour les maîtrises qui maîtrisez cette minimum princesse ; je t'embrasse fort tes mains propres de ma petite minimum princesse 👍🌷🍀🌹
1:54 . did he really expect her to stick that dismount? it takes a lot of focus. that’s how u make up bad gymnastics. by pressuring them and thinking they failed
Ich glaube Sie können nicht lesen. Keiner hat mehr von ihr erwartet. Sie konnte aber viel mehr und konnte es nicht zeigen, weil ein furchtbarer Trainer ihr eingeredet hat, dass sie fett ist und er sie ständig mit seiner Tochter verglichen hat. Nastja war vermutlich im Schulterbereich von ihrer Anlage her besser ausgestattet. Für Katelyn war das einarmige Turnen am UB Gift. Es hätte genug andere Übungen gegeben.
She’s amazing, so incredibly competent, skilled and executes beautifully. She’s capable of absolute perfection, but it’s just so unforgiving that it simply isn’t a joyful experience. I experienced the same in my work and decided to make myself happy elsewhere. Who are we doing anything for? If commenters, judges, coaches, even fans - who would be unlikely to execute the same - judge so harshly, who is it for? I think she made an excellent choice to do things her way rather than the expected path of the most capable. If joy is taken out of the experience by the scrutiny, then maybe structures should change rather than the individuals. Being capable of also dealing with the stress should not be part of the criteria to being an elite athlete or anything else for that matter. We’ve got things wrong so far.
Ughhhhhhh those interviewers they are so annoying they are just making it worse the girl did some difficult movements they should at least hype her up plus why do we even care about the coach face like wtffff
Only because the female commentator is Nastia Liukin, his daughter and protege. He's ALWAYS nudging Nastia for some kind of "inside scoop" when Nastia just wants to call what's happening and support gymnastics.
No, it's far from perfect. The reason she doesn't compete elite anymore is because she was pushed to do skills she wasn't ready for and it shows in this routine
Love the comments her floor, vault and bars are weak YET SHE WON AA...she is still recuperating and will be back....they dont want more injuries. They know what shes caoable of and her beam is still a whopping 7.1 SV!! So all you not liking katelyn?? Like this! She IS at the ranch under the radar and will n back.... youll see her WINNING IN RIO
can anyone else see how happy she is in college gymnastics compared to how she was in elite
Yeah, everyone else with eyes & cognition.
Yes
There is a big difference in rules with elite and college. Everyone wants to be happy, but in elite they can't
It's because val tried to turn her into nastia
Hi my names Catrina What do you mean?
she looks super sad & tired, good to know she’s happier now
She still stands as the last person to beat Simone Biles.
+boytoyville you are so right and i'm not saying she could've beaten her now but she had major potential and they didn't pace her correctly...they had her doing super difficult, taxing skills so early in the quad smh
+boytoyville although Kyla won the Secret US classic over Simone but internationally, Katelyn is the last to beat Simone.
Nope LMAO. Uneven bars maybe but not vault, floor and beam.
+Mel Hudson Kyla beat her at Jesolo but that could have been before this not sure
Thebeautybox56 ohhh ok i don't remember, normally Jesolo is in march so that could've been after this
Listening to them no wonder she left elite for college...
1:54 Did you see his expression? It was like he was mad at her just because she landed a little wobbly! Seriously! Anyone could see she just wasn't ready to do those types of things. She is much happier in College
Stepping like that is a lot more points off then you realize, I’m sure it’s much better in college though and less pressure. Good for Kaetlyn!!!
@@t4u112 well her daughter nastia liukin does an uglier dismount but he still looks so proud lol 🙄
Kei Lee “uglier”? yeah sure maybe it was less difficult but both dismounts are gorgeous. valeri knows katelyns full capability and she didn’t land the way she probably was training so... also katelyn is much happier in college gymnastics now! no need to criticize either gymnast.
@@cheyennewangg No, Nastia's dismount is very ugly, the legs omg ...
College gymnastics is watered down compared to elite. Of course your going to be happier with less pressure and eyes on you. If you want to be the best, at the pinnacle of your sport, you sacrifice a lot of the fun and happiness, for pressure and reward.
Katelyn Ohashi's elite story is How Not to Pace a Gymnast 101 for all coaches.
And this reckless coaching was rewarded with the head job at USAG. Ohashi has also publicly stated that Valeri weighed her daily which led to her starving herself and developing eating disorders.
jampots1000 yep! And multiple other gymnasts have spoken out about his abusive coaching methods.
@@jampots1000 he was trying to make her into nastia. But nastia has a very specific physiology just as Simone bikes does. You can't make someone into a different body.
@@jampots1000 TBH WEIGHT is a FACTOR in Every Sport....it's not the Coach but her Home "Support System" that Failed her...I LOVE seeing her at UCLA!!💪
In her interviews she says it was fans who body shamed her. Don't default to blaming Valeri just because he's Russian and our warring culture teaches us to hate.
It's sad how many gymnasts never get to shine as much as they could because of injuries. It's my favorite sport, but damn, it really beats up their bodies.
Valerie wore her down. Seriously. He gave her super complicated UB routine that she clearly wasn't prepared for.
+De Yu i agree...same with beam. They had her performing some difficult skills like the olympics were around the corner when in actuality, they were 3 yrs away smh. Now she's retired from elite and all that potential is down the drain.
+De Yu And then when she got injured he gave up and accepted that super cushy job at USAG.
+De Yu Exact same thing happened with Rebecca Bross. Bross should've been a shoo-in for London, taking Kyla's spot, but was way overworked too soon.
This is exactly why I didn't want Liukin anywhere near the national team. WOGA gymnasts have horrible histories of injuries. You don't see the same things from some of the other elite caliber coaches.
Valerie Liukin ruined Rebecca bross and Katelyn ohashi
He shows no loving affection in coaching, maybe except when coaching her own daughter
She looks so unhappy. Good thing she switched to college gymnastics.
Edit: Just read the some of the other comments. Interesting how everyone else thinks she looks miserable to. The college route was definitely the best decision for her 😥
elite sports are so toxic, it's so sad. She's amazing, one of the best gymnasts in the world, and just for doing not-perfect-perfect in one time in a routine that 0,000000000000000001% of people can do, she's seen as a failure. It's heartbraking.
I'm a pianist and this is why I don't want to start competing and stuff in piano, bcs then it'll become less about the joy and more about making that perfect performance for the judges, and if you make one mistake ur a failure even if you're actually amazing
@@siri-st5xz maybe u can try to become some1 like lang lang, he really enjoy when he perform, and he still the best pianist in the world
Elite anything is toxic. Humility is non-existent for the elite.
@@chenping9092 Lang Lang became Lang Lang by winning competitions and surviving insane pressure though. Maybe he's not the best example, lol. :)
Elite GYMNASTICS is very toxic. I am heavily involved in the elite world of track and field- and it is an amazing environment. Yes, there is the occasional “bad apple” coach, but athletes rarely stick with them for long so they don’t tend to get very far. Our USA track team is a world power like few others, and we do it without being cruel to the athletes. Gymnastics is just an abhorrently abusive, toxic and disrespectful sport in general to its athletes.
She's so much happier now when she performs.
i think what i find most amazing about this routine is how perfectly she transfers to the low bar at 0:48. it's like the bar is made of metal and her hands are magnets.
That coach would break me too. SO GLAD you found a fierce lioness as your new coach who could help you on the path of healing and true self worth. Bless you always Katelyn!! 🤸🏽♀️👍🏽💗🌈🌻
I'm so glad Katlyn left the elite! u can see the pain on her face! Congratulations Katelyn on an awesome collegiate career!
1:55 Honestly this makes my blood boil. He gave her a very challenging routine, which she executed very well, and he has the audacity to roll his eyes at her !? I’m so happy she doesn’t do Elite anymore, she’s an amazing gymnast and deserves to be happy doing while doing it.
i kind of drifted away from watching gymnastics for a while and i didn't even recognise katelyn when her UCLA video went viral because i was SO USED to seeing her gloomy expressions while competing at the elite level i just thought she was one of those who didn't really like to smile. what a difference.
More than "just a little bit past" handstand, Tim. She definitely wasn't ready to pull them. Things like that are why she wore out!
I love Katelyn shes so amazing and its great to see her enjoying herself more now
To this day I can't believe Valeri made her do those difficult L grip pirouettes. It's painfully obvious she wasn't ready for them, or just doesn't have the shoulder flexibility to pull them off.
also Tim wtf "just a little bit past handstand"
I don't know if it was here or not, but I know at one point, she was competing with two torn shoulders and a broken back. I could fully see this routine contributing to that.
Exactly, she's not Nastia! Surely they could have got her a routine that played to her strengths.
Отличная, симпатичная девчонка!
0:18 little did she know that the floor music in the background would become part of her iconic routine at ucla
Adorable little badass she is
"It's amazing to know that four years before the Olympic Games she already has the great start on bars" SORRY I CANT NOT BE EMOTIONAL
Anyone watching in 2019 when she is in college gymnastics and got a 10 on a floor routine and the music so has now was in the background
That is the call of destiny right there
I hoping someone else noticed! yee!!
It’s a joke in elite level gymnastics
We are proud of You !!!🤗 Ms.Ohashi !!!
I'm so happy that she seems much more happier with UCLA now
She looks so unhappy and tired good that she's happier now
It makes me sad to watch her now bc i know what she was struggling with since she opened up😢
i can't even bring myself to enjoy her performance knowing how unhappy she was
I much rather have Nastia commentating than Elfie. Elfie is too critical and harsh whereas Nastia who is an American AND an AA champion has more compassion and still has the knowledge. She reminds me of Kathy Johnson who was also a great commentator.
Is Tim Daggett paid based on how many Liukin family complements he can cram into one segment !? Such a pain in the a.
This was were she had a severe back pain but still slay the routine
look at her face and attitude when she was in elite vs collegiate gymnastics. it obviously affected her routine and accomplishments.
I just saw her compete a few weekends ago. She is having a blast at UCLA.
Also does anyone notice how the floor music happening during this event gets incorporated into her senior college routine? I wonder if this event was part of the decision-making process for which songs to include. Because it's really symbolic of her ability to overcome the toxic environment she was in and really own the way SHE does gymnastics today.
i love her she is my idol
Absolutely perfect performance!!!!!
It's sad, I don't think she'll make the next Olympics because of all the injuries she's had and I don't think she cares either. I saw an interview where she said she wants to go to college and take it easy. I wish she could have gone in 2012 when she really peaked. She had so much talent.
mwright166 She retired later that year. She does JO.
+boytoyville she's at UCLA.
Me in 2019: Yes, yes, and yes
You were so right
Her coach was the issue. He wore her out.
Im not happy to see this elite competition, the gymnasts stress, the coach face is also unpleasant. Very glad Katelyn is joyful now and become a star.
Nastia: "I only have one gold medal." Ha! Because so many people can say that. 😅😅😅
0:20
"I Want You Back", the Jackson 5 song Katelyn would use on her viral floor routine, playing on the background 😍
Молодец, ты лучшая. Удачи тебе во всем.
She is just amazing.
I love Katelyn Ohashi! 💕
She was, is, and always will be magnificent to me.
I wish Katelyn trained under Chow instead of Valeri. Look at the difference between Katelyn's elite outcome and Shawn Johnson's. Valeri pushed Katelyn into doing all these spins when it was obvious that she didn't have the flexible shoulders like Nastia to execute them well. Chow on the other hand, focused on helping Shawn perfect a simpler routine. The most important thing was that Chow made his gym a healthy mental environment, Norah Flatley, a UCLA gymnast that trained with Chow during her elite career, said that she always felt comfortable telling Chow about injuries or being too tired, and he would adjust the training to make sure he doesn't worsen her injuries, which now that the USA gymnastics scandel is out, shows that this is almost unheard of
Félicitations ma petite princesse Katelyn Ohashi je vote millions fois pour ma princesse de gymnastique USA et je te remercie beaucoup pour les maîtrises qui maîtrisez cette minimum princesse ; je t'embrasse fort tes mains propres de ma petite minimum princesse 👍🌷🍀🌹
1:54 . did he really expect her to stick that dismount? it takes a lot of focus. that’s how u
make up bad gymnastics. by pressuring them and thinking they failed
Always killing it!
I hate when they say she can do more and much better... that’s not ur choice to make is it!!!
Чем больше смотрю на нее, тем больше она мне нравится. Молодчина!
ugh she did amazing, idk why they expected her to do WAY more she was just a kid
Ich glaube Sie können nicht lesen. Keiner hat mehr von ihr erwartet. Sie konnte aber viel mehr und konnte es nicht zeigen, weil ein furchtbarer Trainer ihr eingeredet hat, dass sie fett ist und er sie ständig mit seiner Tochter verglichen hat. Nastja war vermutlich im Schulterbereich von ihrer Anlage her besser ausgestattet. Für Katelyn war das einarmige Turnen am UB Gift. Es hätte genug andere Übungen gegeben.
Did anyone else notice the music playing in the background is part of her floor routine now 😂😂
Ikr😂
Well.. She's obviously very inspired by Michael!
Kori Radley yup!
Did anyone else notice that at 0:45 she hit the low bar?
I did!
yeah she either just barely hit the low bar or hit it with the ends or her toes several times. and i can tell you it hurts
People are criticizing her but seriously, she is soooooo good!
Who would know that the song in the background would form such an important part in Katelyns life!
Shes so good
Robić i kochać to co się robi czyli pasja powodzenia jestem pod wrażeniem !
At the beginning of the routine you can hear the background music is a part of her 2019 collegiate floor routine music. #Jackson5
He cast handstands are amazing!
She’s amazing, so incredibly competent, skilled and executes beautifully. She’s capable of absolute perfection, but it’s just so unforgiving that it simply isn’t a joyful experience. I experienced the same in my work and decided to make myself happy elsewhere. Who are we doing anything for? If commenters, judges, coaches, even fans - who would be unlikely to execute the same - judge so harshly, who is it for? I think she made an excellent choice to do things her way rather than the expected path of the most capable. If joy is taken out of the experience by the scrutiny, then maybe structures should change rather than the individuals. Being capable of also dealing with the stress should not be part of the criteria to being an elite athlete or anything else for that matter. We’ve got things wrong so far.
And Valeri is the new head coach? Yikes..the whole US is going to burn out by 2018 (I'm kidding if u can't tell)
He's gonna make them all starve like he did to Katelyn. That girl was so miserable.. She looked so scared in every video from back then.
I love you katelyn
This girl is best of the best
Did Anybody notice the song in the back? In 2019 one of the parts she did her perfect ten floor routine on 0:20
Yeah I noticed that too
0:33
Me: Woaaaaaahhhh!!
Reporter person (IDK what to call him): “A little bit off there”
Me: *triggered*
Fantástico, 👏👏👏👏
wow!
A wonderful
I love she
Ughhhhhhh those interviewers they are so annoying they are just making it worse the girl did some difficult movements they should at least hype her up plus why do we even care about the coach face like wtffff
Как же она мне нравится! Какая молодчина, трудяга и дисциплировпнная и улыбчивая, красотулька.
Who’s here after her viral floor routine?❤️
me!!!!
OMG I Want You Back in the background 😀😀😀😀
She is another gymnast with power and grace just like the Olympic AA winner gabby
j adore
офигенно
Why is every one like she can do much better not good enough like just appreciate her
Where did she finish overall
0:44 did she hit her foot on the bar?
1:03 i love her hairstyle
I love gymnastics
This is 7yrs old😂😂😂😂
Nadie como Katelyn♡♡
did she hit the bar at 0:45 ?
Omg did anyone realize that, at the beginning of her routine, ABC by the Jackson 5 is playing in the background? Talk about foreshadowing.
Умничка
You can tell that she wasn’t as happy before she joined UCLA
Isn't she amzinggg
Me gusta mucho mucho mucho. Así voy a ser
I’m now going to college gymnastics 😀/when I’m older
Ohashi! Ты лучшая из лучших! Ты мне очень нравишься! Ты очень красивая! У тебя прекрасная фигура!
oh wow!😁
She won the AA.
I really hopt Katelyn doesn't peak too soon... I'd hate to see such a powerful, young gymnast lose it right before the Olympics.
I swear that commentator is in love with Valeri Liukin... xD Like Katelyn does an element, he's like "OMG look at Valeri".
Gee
Only because the female commentator is Nastia Liukin, his daughter and protege. He's ALWAYS nudging Nastia for some kind of "inside scoop" when Nastia just wants to call what's happening and support gymnastics.
Wow good
0:45 Did she knock the low bar or was that another sound I heard?
just a sound. She's shorter than the inches apart.
0:17 Is that again I want you back by Jackson 5 in the background? 😅❤️
wow she has really perfect form
No, it's far from perfect. The reason she doesn't compete elite anymore is because she was pushed to do skills she wasn't ready for and it shows in this routine
@@jgsh8062 that and she was mentally abused by coaches and was competing on several injuries
@killahsa yep I noticed it too
Love the comments her floor, vault and bars are weak YET SHE WON AA...she is still recuperating and will be back....they dont want more injuries. They know what shes caoable of and her beam is still a whopping 7.1 SV!! So all you not liking katelyn?? Like this! She IS at the ranch under the radar and will n back.... youll see her WINNING IN RIO
Say whaaat? so where is she now? LMAO, Rio is only months away from now and Katelyn is nowhere to be seen
Well, Katelyn is happy at UCLA now 😀😀