Radical Firearms Integrally Suppressed Rifle Review
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 16. 08. 2020
- I do some shooting with the Radical Firearms integrally suppressed rifle, test it's sound suppression on a meter, check the accuracy, and discuss what I think of it overall đșđž
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I love it when a problematic gun manufacturer pulls it together and fixes their problems. We all should be hoping for these types of outcomes, itâs good for the 2A community.
Totally agree. Plus everyone can have them for affordable price. Hopefully they stay that way
The beat up buffer is caused by the buffer slamming into the retainer. This is likely a result of them drilling the retainer hole slightly too far to the rear. This causes the buffer to not rely on the back end of the bolt carrier group to stop its forward travel. Instead, the retainer is what is limiting the forward travel of the buffer. This will cause the retainer to fail prematurely by shearing off the tip of it and then it will be floating around in your rifle somewhere, probably in the fire control group. It'll also chew through the buffer itself causing weird wear on the inside of the buffer tube. You can confirm this by shotgunning the rifle and then closing it slowly while watching the back of the bcg to ensure that slight pressure against the face of the buffer is maintained throughout the entire closure. The back of the bcg should slightly depress the buffer spring when it is fully closed.
Had this problem on one of my 308 builds. Solutions are to either fill the hole and re-drill it in the right location or find a slightly longer bcg.
You are correct sir. Many people don't realize the buffer should not contact the retainer when the weapon is assembled and functioning. Those marks are a sign that something is out of spec.
Other solutions are captive buffer spring or just delete the retainer.
@@roflchopter11 that's actually what I ended up doing. Got a silent capture spring, cut the top off the included plastic spacer thingy for the a2 style tube, threw in behind the silent capture spring, and fixed.
Tyler Robles Iâve heard some issues over the long term with captured buffer springs. Sprinco for me all day!
It can be hard to diagnose exactly what is out of spec in this instance. Could very well be that everything is at the low end of âin specâ, but stacking against each other is whatâs causing the issue. Could be a short bolt, short carrier, out of spec locking lugs, etc.
First thing I would do is swap BCG and eliminate that.
@@danieldotter6077 you are correct about the spec stacking problem. Curious as to the bad stories you've heard about silent capture systems. I've put probably 10000 rounds through my various rifles with the jp silent capture springs but never had a problem.
Your humbleness is your strength, keep up the good work brother and God bless you and fam.
I think my Radical 300BLK 10" upper is about 5 years old and a lot of folks that bought them before that had a lot of issues. They defiantly have improved there quality over the years.
I bought one of these after you reviewed this. I enjoy this firearm.
I have that same Handguard in which Im using in the same configuration. To make the handguard tighter I tapped the hole in the bottom of the barrel nut and drilled out the hole in the bottom of the HG and used a larger cap screw. Now the HG is solid and it only took about 10 minutes of work and a trip to Ace hardware to get a new screw while I was getting other things. This was the only HG I could find in stock at the time to fit a suppressor under. It was cheap and itâs fairly light.
I have a Radical upper, and love it. Shoots super tight and I have never had one issue. Whatever their problem was I havenât experienced any of it with mine.
Same
I bought a Radical 16 inch upper back in like 2014/2015 and mated it with a PSA blemished lower, to this day it still shoots great, and still is louder than piss with the zero impulse break or whatever it's called. The only thing I've had to replace so far is gas rings on the PSA bolt. Radical isn't DD, but mine has worked well for me both recreation shooting as well as duty. It has been replaced by a DD 10.3 MK18 upper and Aero lower though ;)
Fantastic review man. Absolutely thorough and everything I would want to check myself if I were buying and then some! How often do you get to check the groups and suppression ability on a weapon before you buy it. Thank you for this. Interesting that they didnât stake the castle nut, maybe so we have the option to add an ASAP plate or something? Then we can stake it ourselves maybe? When building my own I use purple or blue loctite and then stake but thatâs just me.
The upper (in both 300 Blackout and 5.56) is 1,100, and the complete rifle is only 1300. Pretty nice
Hope you'll get your hands on a Barrett REC10 some day.
Thanks for a great vid again! Greets, T.
I'm actually running Radical's MHR handguard on my Stag upper. It's very similar to Stag's SL Quad handguard, but with two important differences: it has a QD swivel hole on the front rails, and it hard-indexes to the barrel nut via a threaded screw. It also cost quite a bit less. Given I like to run with a lightweight bipod, I wanted those dedicated rails at the front.
You can always upgrade to a Gemtech bolt carrier to reduce how overgassed it is.
Really cool rifle, thanks for sharing! That beard...man it's coming in thick! Hope you're doing good.
I wanna see this reviewed by School of the American Rifle
Should we take bets on whether the bcg comes in under specified length?
I would love to see that as well
@@doktorfaustus could be in spec, just on the low end along with tolerance stacking in other areas. But ya, a bcg on the longer spec comes in handy and would proly help this.
Yeah maybe he could do Delta team the same time lol I feel bad for anyone that buys this trash off Mr g's recommendation
Iâm glad his channel is gaining more traction
I thought I had crickets in my basement when the video started đ€Ł
I thought the same thing. Hahahahaha
Oh how Iâd love to rock this as a duty gun with a new kp-15 lower for my security work..
I love the channel brother! I have been noticing on some new builds, some manufacturers are going with .223 Wylde chambering. What are you thoughts on the .223 Wylde chambering?
Pretty cool rifle, thanks for the review!
I though it was my handguard moving as well. I figured out it was the entire upper moving at the pivot pin. Put an o ring on it. To tighten that fit. And no more wiggle.
I'd buy this upper after watching this. Thanks bro
Please consider doing a review of the Omnirobusta magnetic buffer system
How about a review on that hybrid rifle A2 lower with the Geissele upper, that looks sweet.
Thanks for the video Sir.
Great job bud...Thanks
Could you do a review of the Swampfox LPVO like the Arrowhead?
Justvfound your channel and loving it.
How about a review on Radicals 7.62x39.
Badass video Mike. Any chance of getting at the ear numbers down the road?
maybe, thanks
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@mrgunsngear try a longer bcg to offset the buffer weight banging the catch pin
Thanks
I would absolutely buy that gun at that MSRP.
Great review, how about the scout isp ? What would you know about this one ?
Thanks
It says uploaded 13 seconds ago and it already has 1500 views! Your moving up
Wowah that's some lock-down beard project!
Awesome review by Rip Van Winkle
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Bought a radical upper in 2016. In just a couple of outings the handguard bolts stripped out of the barrel nut. I emailed them asking for the size of the screws because I was just going to buy longer ones. They just sent me new barrel nut and screws for free. (longer screws too) I wasn't impressed with the finish or build quality. But was impressed by their customer service. I've steered clear of their products since then despite their low price, but this video is giving me second thoughts... đ€
you Kojacked the beard !! nice one lol
Quiet, and damn accurate.
Could you start doing suppressor tests on the shooters right ear side, near the chamber. On an AR platform the chamber pop is not hearing safe with near any suppressed 5.56 loading. 135dB is amazing for 5.56, but Id like to know if the action is still going to kill my ear.
Mine doesn't "kill my ear" but the supersonic crack gets old so I wear ear pro still when at the range.
I got this rifle to shoot my 190 and 220 subsonic ammo. Needless to say it short cycles and even when putting lighter spring and buffer it will cycle a few times before short cycle again. Their gas block set up sucks, it doesnât have enough gas to properly cycle subs. Youâd think it would be tuned at the factory. There is no way to adjust the gas block other than removing the compression pin in it and opening up that hole. Did all that and still have a $1300 integrally suppressed 300 blackout that only functions correctly with supersâŠ.not that quiet when the supersonic crack echoes.
1 question, why did the winchester ammo shoot lower and slightly to left of poa (assuming you were aiming at the little orange box đ)
Mind adding the website/url of that mfgr to your info section of this vid? Great looking and sounding upper. Curious on the maintenance and cleaning on this upper....
Radical plans on releasing a video soon so they say describing such but when i took mine apart it seem like it wouldnât be hard
Is the increased chamber volume in this silencer worth the disposal replacement cost once the barrel wears out vs a standard can you could install on a new barrel? You said it is gassy and while OSS is $1k, others at $500 range would be the comparison. Laws change but current day with pistol braces im leaning toward separate silencer. Have a used radical upper I recently purchased and looks fine, rail is too thin where gas block strikes in recoil, many brands do this like Troy Midwest etc.
You're not wearing out a 300 blackout barrel unless you are dumping tens of thousands of rounds through it every year. If you can afford to do that then I don't think you are going to worry about affording a replacement.
Nice Steiner.
You need to shoot some Barnaul steel case in the middle so it can smoke all the other premium rounds like it did w/ the BRN-180S đ€Ł
I hate to say this but i am more impressed with your hat. Where did you get that hat? My hat is always hitting on my glasses so that thing is awesome. Thanks for the video.
The brand is Notch hats. They come in 2 styles, one for Oakley and one for aviator/reading glasses. They are badass and are all I shoot with anymore.
@@chiefro7 Thank you very much.
Dialysisforever My pleasure!
A link for the laser please. Good You Tuber. Nice info đ
Why do we not see the fouling shot issue in these groups like we have in others?
If the "HPT" High Pressure Testing weakens the bolt, wouldn't the "MPI" Magnetic Particle Testing show that when it's inspected? For me, I like to see my bolt stamped with BOTH MPI/HPT and that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside... đ
Having confidence in your firearm that your life might depend on is very important so by all means do what makes you feel better but:
- MPI is not full proof. The cracks have to be deep or long enough to be detected. MPI bolts have prematurely broken.
- Not all metal stress shows up as detectable cracks.
- Stressing metal components reduces their service life regardless.
@@Shawn-wy1pb I hear ya, nothing is failproof, that's 4 sure!
Love the reviews keep them coming all the way to Phoenix AZ. Looking for a way to spend my Plandemic Stimulus Check
The buffer retaining pin is gonna snap
Yep, if they break WITHOUT the buffer pummeling them, and they most definitely do, this one canât last long.
Nice but had bad experience with their barrels just wouldn't shoot steel case frequently stuck cases
Do you think the carrier is to short causing the buffer to get beat up? Thanks
In 300 BLK, I wonder how it compares too Daniel Defense's ISR. I was just...JUST about to buy that DDM4ISR in anticipation for hog hunting 2022 (dang tax stamp). Now, with Covid, I can't find 300BLK rounds for any price. I am not going to buy a new caliber rifle if I can't buy ammuntion for it. I guess I am back to researching and comparing...ugh. So I wonder how might this Radical Firearms compare to the Daniel Defense. I really like DD as I own three 5.56 variants already. However, I am NOT crazy at how expensive they are and their ISR is especially unique and therefore godawful expensive. It's not the cabliber I was really looking for in an ISR and hog gun, but Radical Firearms does make it in .223 and I do already have plenty of that ammo. I hate to "settle" but who knows when specialty* rounds like 300BLK will be back in circulation again.
I have a question about integrally suppressed uppers. Is there any point to assemble them on 80% lowers because upper is already will be registered in owner's name?
No legal reason. Only personal reasons. Preference, etc.
Do they sell the suppressed barrel assembly by itself?
I have a B-5 Grip on my rifle. Better Price than BCM OR Mag Pul K-2
Is that just a lower 1/3 mount with the red dot? It looks taller to me.
Is it 16.5" min? For some reason I thought it was 16" even. Do you think it's possible to build a low profile picatinny attachement that would force mirage of supressor left /right to prevent it from obscuring shooters vision?
Its 16, some companies just spec 16.5 to be on the safe side.
What kind of firing schedule is it rated for?
I'm curious, is there a way to find out exactly how much noise is suppressed with and without that cam. Averaging 136 dbl how is it without the suppressor
Video showed an unsuppressed 556 at the ear splitting standard 169 Db.
Im at the beginning but i hope you go on to answer, whats the velocity of each round vs an sbr with suppressor that winds out behind close to the 17in overall length of the riffle tested.
It will be the same..
No doubt
Location: everywhere!!!!!
Still gonna wait for the Witt can review....still great video tho.
So I have a question... how did you clean the barrel? Do they have a recommended process since the suppressor cant be removed? I got a Sig SUR300 which has the can pin/welded to the barrel (not technically integrally suppressed) and it started shredding my boresnake to the point that it got caught in the baffles. Luckily I managed to get it out and called Sig who said they clean their integrally suppressed guns with a sonic cleaner. I ended up getting the Hornady hot tub sonic cleaner and it is legit as hell but for those who donât have/canât afford a big enough sonic cleaner to throw the whole upper in, how would it be cleaned?
Adam Grantham titanium sleeve comes off you can see the whole barrel blank the used to make the barrel and baffles one solid piece
gho3st wow that sounds like it wouldâve been a great thing to show in the video
How can you clean the integrated suppress rifle?
I watched your beard grow in this video. Lol
I can't believe no one is commenting on how great those groups were. The durability of that rifle is questionable but the results of those groups are outstanding. Wondering if its a one off or if most will shoot that good.
5,000 plus rounds through mine and still going strong.
I just now noticed your Facebook logo thing at the end looks like Hitler lol
Mr.gunsngear is lookin like Mr.gunsnbeard these days if ya know what I mean
that's not an IR illuminator? I thought that was kind of weird to have white light on a gun with IR laser but no illum
Yeah boi!
On a integrally suppressed rifle is there issues with running a bore snake or cleaning rod down the barrel? Will you snake get caught on the baffles?
Nope. As long as you get the end fished out of the suppressor bore, just yank it through like normal. The bore diameter of the baffles is going to be larger than .224 anyways.
Yes, there can be. It all depends on the baffle design. I actually got a bore snake stuck in my Sig SUR300 upper because the baffles are angled and sharp enough to catch and shred the boresnake. Ended up getting a Hornady hot tub sonic cleaner which is designed to just throw the whole 16â upper in for cleaning.
What was the tape switch and lazer?
"If we ever get our rights back". Lol?)
Yeah pretty sure things are gonna get WAY worse before they get better.
@@f308gtb1977 100%
Isn't that the coolest thing. If I would have known that existed I would have ordered one of their uppers instead of a can.
Youâre better off with the can. Can be moved to different barrels
Is that a gator swimming behind you? At 7:40 in the video?
The legal rifle barrel length is 16â not 16.5â right?
16.5.. 14.5.. 10.5.. who cares? Lol
Bruh Fu I appreciate it. I knew that already but I was just tryna confirm that the law hadnât change without me knowing. He mentioned 16.5â in the video. I have no idea why. I appreciate your humble answer unlike the above asshole âïž.
Most companies put in that 1/2" more to make 100% sure. Same with shotguns all being 18.5" instead of 18".
Did I hear right!? Planned Demic? đ
#forsure
Speaking about QC...I just bought one of their uppers from Primary Arms and the gas tube was installed upside down. Since the tube inst supposed to be installed upside down, the builder had some trouble and decided to hammer the gas block into place leaving hammer marks on the barrel. I sent that crap back right away, lol
How do you clean a pinned suppressor?
I ended up getting a Hornady hot tub sonic cleaner for my Sig SUR300 because the baffles shredded the boresnake to the point it got stuck in the can. The Hornady hot tub is designed to be able to throw the whole upper in it.
There is a titanium sleeve that comes off you can clean the whole thing from that point others you cant take off but to be fair from what ive heard high pressure rounds like 556 cleans the suppressor as you shoot it
gho3st yeah I dont worry about the suppressor so much as just the barrel. Shoot subs all day and blow a box of supers thru it and call it good.
show us how your neighbors cant hear it by shooting that bird in the background noise. thanks for the vids :)
Canada geese are feathered raptors, not birds.
Easy mistake to make, until they come charging at you...
Im thinking about getting this upper , has anyone posted a long ownership review?
I've had my upper mated to a PSA lower for a few years now. Right off the bat I had to send it back to them as the seal at the receiver end blew out sending hot gas back. Radical sent me a 2 day fed Ex label and in a week I had it back repaired and no issues since with that but the gas block screw did come loose. I re-torqued it at their recommended 28 in lbs. I had no issues in the buffer end like he did but I did replace it with a silent capture anyway.
@@watermann8200 seems hit or miss , thanks for the info bud!
Itâs safe to say. You had that rifle for a few months. Beardless then full on contractor beard.
Hmm.. if I could afford ammo nowadays, I would totally snag one of these. But I've got to feed the girls I have at home already!
I dream of a suppressor that can get any supersonic loads down to hearing safe levels, is that even possible? Idk, I'm not a physics major.
It was metering at 136ish at the muzzle. 140db is hearing safe for single impact noise. I suspect it is louder at the ear but still pretty close. I wouldn't run it all day without ear pro but it probably wouldn't be painful to shoot without. 5.56 is hard to suppress, those numbers on a 10.5" barrel are damn near as good as you'll get.
@Bruh Fu yes, but it's done by using ports (holes) in the actual chamber/barrel lead area to bleed off enough gas to make a supersonic 9mm into subsonic. So technically when it leaves the barrel it's effectively a subsonic round. Similar to how most standard 22lr is supersonic but if you run it in a pistol it will typically not gain enough velocity to break the sound barrier.
I was looking at Radical Firearms and might seriously consider their AR in 300 BO ..
@alan wake , what reason ? ... are they a bad rifle ?
@alan wake , ok thanks ...I'll take a look .
@alan wake ...... what about PAlmetto State Arms ?? what do you think of their ARs ?
@alan wake , never was a big fan of an AR but I need something new to buy ...
Just down the road from me. I am very interested in a radical Firearm for my first AR!
Dont they are trash They have a long track record of putting out really shady rifles I know due to personally that had to send their rightful back over 3 times it still wasn't fixed also another CZcams reviewer gave them a vad route review as the rifle was shipped in would not function radical firearms went to the police officers chief in literally tried to have him fired stay away there are much much better companies out there like BCM or sons of liberty gun works for example Pretty disappointing that Mr. G would give them any airtime as new gun owners are 1st time buyers to the AR like you will get stuck with their piece of shit
are these full auto rated ?
Two questions how much does it cost and where do you get the stamp for the suppressor that's what I want to know and if the pressure isn't really all that good but it's sufficient
and there goes $100 worth of ammo...
Ya, but well spend, ain't it?
Carrier too short?
Hit that like button if you wish you had some of the amazingly unique built rifle mike gets to play with!!..lol
I dont get the whole trigger thing ... Why would it cost more to manufacture a better trigger than mil spec ? Why dont they just put better triggers in the factory guns ???
Safety, lighter triggers can be used in the court of law as a assault modification
Your spent rounds are coming out about 2:30.
Make it a machine gunđ
What the hell hahahahaha Filmed this years later huh? Lol I did not expect the lack of beard out of the blue haha
I appreciate your comprehensive clear and detailed reviews you are one of the most trusted reviewers on youtube. That being said I am getting tired of you using the term Plandemic and other terms dismissing and diminishing global. I have lost a person I care about to this pandemic, and I think you need to consider how you would react if some one under cut the Iraq war and the people you know who you lost there and there live they never got a chance to return to. This has killed more american than all middle eastern conflicts and the Vietnam ware combined by disparaging it you are disparaging the people who have died to this disease and shaming the families that have lost loved ones to it. Pleased refrain from politicizing this issue that is impacting so many people regardless of there 2A beliefs. Otherwise great review as always thank you for the work you do in testing and providing insight into all things firearms relate.
You lost ONE person you care about and insist on calling this a pandemic? It doesnât even meet the criteria by their own phony numbers! If this was a real pandemic you should know dozens of people who died. (I know zero, and I work in healthcare even!)
The predictions were completely made up and absolutely ridiculous, the deaths and âCASESđČâ are at least 50% fraudulent, the lockdowns and closures are naked TYRANNY, and the masks and anti-social distancing is more tyranny, especially of the conditioning and conformity type. All GARBAGE. Evil, stupid, garbage.
People die. That SUCKS, but itâs part of life. More people die of diarrhea every year. More people die of Tuberculosis every year. And thatâs if you take the âofficialâ numbers at face value, which at this point would make someone dumber than an earthworm.
Mike didnât politicize it. The politicians and the media politicized it. Mikeâs 100% right to call this farce exactly what it is.
(And by the way, you should mock and berate the immoral, illegal, unconstitutional, murderous âwar on terror,â no matter who died in it. Itâs pure evil.)
It is a plandemic. Or as I call it the election infection. This whole thing is a bunch of bs. Itâs not even 1 % kill rate.
Keep telling the truth even if some people canât accept it
@@nitemare5030 CLOSED CASES
15,709,076
Cases which had an outcome:
14,927,806 (95%)
Recovered / Discharged
781,270 (5%)
Deaths
as this is the closed case data and actual result i think you should reevaluate your data source
That is the world here is the US
3,173,625
Cases which had an outcome:
2,998,902 (94%)
Recovered / Discharged
174,723 (6%)
Deaths
so US has a higher mortality rate then the world so...
@@f308gtb1977 So if you lose some one you care about to say cancer you be like well the deserved theirpart of the Cancer infrastructure we should do anything to prevent or reduce cancer deaths...
I wish I was 21 to be able to buy a suppressed rifle đȘ
Youâll also need a gun trust set up
@@kalikokhronic9169 No he doesn't.
Cool
@Kaliko Khronic
Trusts are only if you want others to possess the item or receive it after you die
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