I think the fact they govern their prices based on how much they themselves would pay for a suit speaks to their honesty. Rather than charging as much as they COULD receive, they charge as much as they WOULD pay themselves. Besides the absolutely beautiful product they deliver, on top of being absolutely hysterical and wonderful to watch, their honest and humility is astounding.
Well... if anything they should price based on how much things cost + the profit margin. It can be difficult to figure out because not only do you need to figure the labor hours for each employee and materials, but you also need to figure out the overhead. The overhead being utiltities, taxes or rent, and insurance. You can figure how much it costs to run the place per hour not including employees. Then on top of that they can understandably charge a 20% margin or much more for the level of quality and experience. So I believe that they are undercharging by a huge amount. I don't know how it works in England, but in the US you can take an employee's wage and double it, then thats the amount that they actually cost the company. So if you're making 15 an hour, your company is probably paying another 15 in taxes and workers comp insurance. Those experienced tailors probably make at least $40 an hour and very possibly overall spend 200 labor hours or more on the everything done in this video. 80*200= $16,000 not including overhead or profit. So I wonder if they're really making any money or what. Thank you for reading my Ted Talk
Given how well respected these guys are and how long they’ve been in business I think they’ve figured it out. They won’t be rich men but they’ll make a living which they’re happy with. They love their work too.
@@gwr4funthis is exactly what I was going to say. It doesn’t matter if they are selling them for what they would want to pay, the facts are those suits cost many, many times more than 99.9% of people on earth can afford. The price of goods rises with inflation, not wages. Wages slow trickle up. I mean minimum wage is still 7.25. I have a feeling even a minimum wage worker could’ve had a cheaper suit made bespoke back in the day. Nowadays it’s literally not possible. Maybe m2m but definitely not bespoke. People don’t habe 3-6k to spend on a suit.
Terry is so patient with John. It's almost Iike a father and son. John over talks everyone especially Terry. You can see Terry's gentle way of standing down . Love this group and have watched this series multiple times
IMHO, the suit that John made is the nicest one you’ve had made. Simply transformative. Others have been great from all the other makers but this one is special. I wish I had one and could get to London to have him do the same for me. Wow. Both pieces should be worn regularly. Those gentleman have talent. You were gracious with both. I don’t comment much, but well done Kirby.
The sleeves had creases in them when his arms were down. It didn't look right to my untrained eye. I would expect them to fall down straight but it looked like they were getting pulled towards the jacket? Beautiful looking suit nevertheless
The way John speaks and his turn of phrase is so wonderfully ‘London’ and of a certain generation. “Proof of the pudding”, “knock about” trousers and “first class”. Such a gentleman in every sense and so humble.
Fantastic suits, but just some observations that I can see: 1. Kirby likes to show some cuff, but both suits still have rather long sleeves. 2. The first blue tweed suit has some shoulder divots on both arms. 3. The second grey suit has incorrect sleeve pitch on the right sleeve - it looks too far “forward”, so when his arm is resting, creases appear. Not sure if Kirby or other viewers agree with me here?
This is an astute pick-up. I went back to the video and agree. Kirby engages fine tailors, but I have to wonder whether he may not be profiling the best tailors because they do not need the advertising and are not willing to exchange suits for Kirby’s advertising. In NYC, Kirby goes to Eric Jensen, but he is no Leonard Logsdail. On other videos, he has said that he has not heard of Tiefenbrun or Genuardi, which I find difficult to believe. It is more likely that those two tailors, who have been featured in the NYT, GQ, and other high-profile publications are not keen to barter their services for advertising on Kirby’s channel. Don’t get me wrong, I am a big fan of KA, but people should realize that he is always monetizing his channel, which is the American (especially Texan) way!
@@brucer6239 Maybe but i think he has said in the past that he pays for the suits. They would probably give him a decent discount i suppose but i find it hard to believe that they value segments on a fairly "obscure" (And i dont say that to downplay the channel, but he does not even have 1 million subs) at over £10 000.. I think its a combination of him working with tailors who are willing to have the whole process documented on camera, who can reap benefits of appearing on camera, and would be willing to work with Kirby on that! For example, there is no way that Henry Poole as a prominent Savile Row tailor needs the advertisement that Kirby brings to the table, but on the other hand, Purdey Guns was obivously chosen because they were willing to lend the firearms to Kirby in exchange for that video, as opposed to going to perhaps the most well known hunting shotgun maker in the world, Holland & Holland! I think its a combination of Kirby sometimes getting discounts, him being able to probably write off parts of the garments on his taxes and so forth!
Well stated Raymond, your comments re: discounted cost is more precise and, in fact, is what I was driving at. Early on, Kirby had a great deal of content featuring Allen Edmonds (AE)shoes and he was very clear that he was not getting anything other than access to their product for his videos and that all shoes were returned to AE. Contrast that with the more recent content featuring Carmina shoes. I have no problem with Kirby cutting deals with tailors, shoe makers, cigar merchants, gun manufacturers, etc. I congratulate his entrepreneurial spirit and there is much to learn from his channel’s content. I was just commenting that channel watchers should understand that there is a financial element to all of his interviews and product placements and, therefore, it is not without some degree of bias. Caveat Emptor!
Although i'm not a fan of the British understatement style but i have to admit that this gray suit is one of the best suit you got until now. Splendid jobs from both of them. Two grand masters of craft!
To see your face once you tried on the suits said it all. You looked relaxed, you were glowing like a little boy in a lolly store. The finished product is outstanding. Please, please see these gentlemen again. Loved the series... ❤️🇦🇺
When I was stationed in Britain in the early 80’s, in 82-83’ before I rotated back to my next base in the US, I commissioned two jackets with a matching color reversible vest and 2 pairs of pants. After I rotated back, I wrote back and ordered two more pairs of linen slacks to go with the jackets. I bought my shirts from also. I wore them until I couldn’t. I do not remember who did them now but they were a well known London tailor . Worth every penny. Cheers
I'm sad this series is over. SUch great craftsmanship and knowledge from everyone. I find this all to be very interesting, and also I have a bit of a crush on Suyamba :).
I can see Terry ruminating on the sleeve length in real time. He tried to get them down and cuff showing and then just backs off and you can see him thinking immediately about fixing it. Bet it’ll be adjusted immediately. Mark of a true craftsman.
I have enjoyed following Kirby and his various suit fittings, having worked in Menswear and tailoring in my youth I enjoy seeing the process and development of the garment. I think the suit John made was the best fitting and nicest I have seen on the channel, from the first fitting when it was quite a way off to reach near perfection was amazing to watch. This is tailoring of the very highest standard, and reflects the superb history of tailoring in London. It is great to see someone having such high regard and respect for this history of excellence and craftsmanship. Very enjoyable to watch!
these guys and the young woman are the best. they are good guys, true gentlemen, and perfectionists. they have a sense of humor. this is almost like a therapy session. imagine, being attended to by people like this, in your life. it would be nurturing, and restore your faith in humanity...!
Many thanks Kirby for sharing your sartorial journey. Hats off to the detailed craftsmen Kent,Haste and Suyamba for the immaculate flannels. What a series !
Cannot wait for my first bespoke suit experience! Beautiful job as always and those at Kent, Haste & Lachter are true gents and consumate craftsmen (and women).
That lady is extremely beautiful and she's got such a wonderful voice so soothing You got to knowledge I've never owned a suit not the type the way I want but that is definitely on the bucket list
Superb series, Kirby. Grew up very near to London but this part of town seems very much out of reach, so it's amazing to see it through this series. Thanks !
This really lit up a sad, snowy, sloppy day! What wonderful workmanship and fit. I wish I had those clothes to wear today. Thank you for sharing it all with us.
The way that tweed jacket fell on you... I could tell it was perfect. I so want to get a suit done by them! The Duke of Edinburgh was my fashion icon even when I was a young teen. Well done.
I love that blue jacket but that second suit looks absolute class. Excellent looking suit and really does look like something the royals would wear. Thank you for this series all 3 of the suit makers have been so entertaining to watch.
Thankyou kirby for a great series with the great Kent and haste the banta between them is superb and an absolute joy to watch once again thank you for all the episode's this year and what's to come next year so have a merry Christmas and a happy new year 🎉
Love the series. I don’t wear suits anymore, but certainly appreciate these gentlemen and lady. Just an amazing look. Should do a sit down with those three together and separate for another video about all this. I love to hear the lady talk but she just doesn’t get the chance.
I think the fact they govern their prices based on how much they themselves would pay for a suit speaks to their honesty. Rather than charging as much as they COULD receive, they charge as much as they WOULD pay themselves. Besides the absolutely beautiful product they deliver, on top of being absolutely hysterical and wonderful to watch, their honest and humility is astounding.
Well... if anything they should price based on how much things cost + the profit margin. It can be difficult to figure out because not only do you need to figure the labor hours for each employee and materials, but you also need to figure out the overhead. The overhead being utiltities, taxes or rent, and insurance. You can figure how much it costs to run the place per hour not including employees. Then on top of that they can understandably charge a 20% margin or much more for the level of quality and experience. So I believe that they are undercharging by a huge amount. I don't know how it works in England, but in the US you can take an employee's wage and double it, then thats the amount that they actually cost the company. So if you're making 15 an hour, your company is probably paying another 15 in taxes and workers comp insurance. Those experienced tailors probably make at least $40 an hour and very possibly overall spend 200 labor hours or more on the everything done in this video. 80*200= $16,000 not including overhead or profit. So I wonder if they're really making any money or what. Thank you for reading my Ted Talk
Given how well respected these guys are and how long they’ve been in business I think they’ve figured it out. They won’t be rich men but they’ll make a living which they’re happy with. They love their work too.
@@nihiles1098 I do agree with you. They are almost certainly undercharging. I’d just echo what Russ says in the next comment.
Their suits arent accessible to most. They afford more than most people
@@gwr4funthis is exactly what I was going to say. It doesn’t matter if they are selling them for what they would want to pay, the facts are those suits cost many, many times more than 99.9% of people on earth can afford. The price of goods rises with inflation, not wages. Wages slow trickle up. I mean minimum wage is still 7.25. I have a feeling even a minimum wage worker could’ve had a cheaper suit made bespoke back in the day. Nowadays it’s literally not possible. Maybe m2m but definitely not bespoke. People don’t habe 3-6k to spend on a suit.
I feel like I'm going to miss these guys now. You really must go back to them in the future. Such a great series of videos.
Agree! This should be an annual series
100% agree
Hey, fancy seeing you here lol
Terry is so patient with John. It's almost Iike a father and son. John over talks everyone especially Terry. You can see Terry's gentle way of standing down . Love this group and have watched this series multiple times
John’s classic grey suit is perfect. Sorry to hear he retired. So much talent. Terry must miss him greatly.
Being able to say 'that's what I cut for the Duke' and mean the late Duke of Edinburgh is truly a massive flex
The banter between John and Terry was brilliant. Suyamba was the calming influence. The tailoring is brilliant!
And she got a zinger in of her own with the "plastic surgeon" comment to Kirby!
Nice chemistry between the three of them + Kirby.
These guys are national, nay world, treasures! Hopefully they are passing their passion to the next generation of tailors.
IMHO, the suit that John made is the nicest one you’ve had made. Simply transformative. Others have been great from all the other makers but this one is special. I wish I had one and could get to London to have him do the same for me. Wow. Both pieces should be worn regularly. Those gentleman have talent. You were gracious with both. I don’t comment much, but well done Kirby.
Yeah that suit from John looks sooooo clean :D
The sleeves had creases in them when his arms were down. It didn't look right to my untrained eye. I would expect them to fall down straight but it looked like they were getting pulled towards the jacket? Beautiful looking suit nevertheless
The way John speaks and his turn of phrase is so wonderfully ‘London’ and of a certain generation. “Proof of the pudding”, “knock about” trousers and “first class”. Such a gentleman in every sense and so humble.
Us Cockney working class are a dying breed being replaced unfortunately
Please do more episodes with these legends! I’ve rewatched more times than I can count
Me too I watch them over and over
Same here! Great vibes!
Fantastic suits, but just some observations that I can see:
1. Kirby likes to show some cuff, but both suits still have rather long sleeves.
2. The first blue tweed suit has some shoulder divots on both arms.
3. The second grey suit has incorrect sleeve pitch on the right sleeve - it looks too far “forward”, so when his arm is resting, creases appear.
Not sure if Kirby or other viewers agree with me here?
100%. That's what I see as well. 2 and 3 are a major oversight
This is an astute pick-up. I went back to the video and agree. Kirby engages fine tailors, but I have to wonder whether he may not be profiling the best tailors because they do not need the advertising and are not willing to exchange suits for Kirby’s advertising. In NYC, Kirby goes to Eric Jensen, but he is no Leonard Logsdail. On other videos, he has said that he has not heard of Tiefenbrun or Genuardi, which I find difficult to believe. It is more likely that those two tailors, who have been featured in the NYT, GQ, and other high-profile publications are not keen to barter their services for advertising on Kirby’s channel. Don’t get me wrong, I am a big fan of KA, but people should realize that he is always monetizing his channel, which is the American (especially Texan) way!
Correct observations!
@@brucer6239 Maybe but i think he has said in the past that he pays for the suits. They would probably give him a decent discount i suppose but i find it hard to believe that they value segments on a fairly "obscure" (And i dont say that to downplay the channel, but he does not even have 1 million subs) at over £10 000.. I think its a combination of him working with tailors who are willing to have the whole process documented on camera, who can reap benefits of appearing on camera, and would be willing to work with Kirby on that!
For example, there is no way that Henry Poole as a prominent Savile Row tailor needs the advertisement that Kirby brings to the table, but on the other hand, Purdey Guns was obivously chosen because they were willing to lend the firearms to Kirby in exchange for that video, as opposed to going to perhaps the most well known hunting shotgun maker in the world, Holland & Holland!
I think its a combination of Kirby sometimes getting discounts, him being able to probably write off parts of the garments on his taxes and so forth!
Well stated Raymond, your comments re: discounted cost is more precise and, in fact, is what I was driving at. Early on, Kirby had a great deal of content featuring Allen Edmonds (AE)shoes and he was very clear that he was not getting anything other than access to their product for his videos and that all shoes were returned to AE. Contrast that with the more recent content featuring Carmina shoes. I have no problem with Kirby cutting deals with tailors, shoe makers, cigar merchants, gun manufacturers, etc. I congratulate his entrepreneurial spirit and there is much to learn from his channel’s content. I was just commenting that channel watchers should understand that there is a financial element to all of his interviews and product placements and, therefore, it is not without some degree of bias. Caveat Emptor!
You have the final garments, but the process has been so educational and priceless; thank you so much for documenting it all!
Two incredible suits…. @Kirby this is CZcams content perfection… fantastic in every way from all involved. Massive congratulations
Thank you! We put a lot of work into filming our content. This series alone was filmed across three or four separate trips to London!
That tweed jacket is absolute class.
Apart from the fact that the shoulder had a large fold in it.
A tailored garment shouldn’t have that.
@@tomknight217 the sleeves were also too long
@@tomknight217 Pretty sure those are because of heavy shoulder pads and arm posture. When he stands straight the fold disappears.
Agreed!
@@tomknight217Terry spoke in the video that the suit was still due the final pressing.
Got to love John Kent he is just the best tailor What a character I would love to get a bespoke suit made by Kent Haste and Lachter
This has been a delightful series.
Suyamba needs her own channel
Completely agree!!
Seconded
@@tomknight217 thirded!
Matron
@@Ste2023 😂
The cut of that tweed jacket is amazing
Although i'm not a fan of the British understatement style but i have to admit that this gray suit is one of the best suit you got until now. Splendid jobs from both of them. Two grand masters of craft!
Really enjoyed this mini series. What a great insight into the world of tailoring…. And charming chaps!
I love hearing genuine professionals doing what they love. the confidence in the room.
Great series with Kent & Haste! What a Journey Kirby! Promise us to go back in 2023!
love how happy it makes jon to remake the DOE suit one more time both beautiful suits
Those are two funny chaps, and Suyamba is a beautiful lady!
It is truly an education to see such absolute maters of their craft.
I've been waiting for My package of suits from Kirby for months Delivery is here! Those suits are masterpieces
This series was fantastic. The tailors are all brilliant.
To see your face once you tried on the suits said it all. You looked relaxed, you were glowing like a little boy in a lolly store. The finished product is outstanding. Please, please see these gentlemen again. Loved the series... ❤️🇦🇺
When I was stationed in Britain in the early 80’s, in 82-83’ before I rotated back to my next base in the US, I commissioned two jackets with a matching color reversible vest and 2 pairs of pants. After I rotated back, I wrote back and ordered two more pairs of linen slacks to go with the jackets. I bought my shirts from also. I wore them until I couldn’t. I do not remember who did them now but they were a well known London tailor . Worth every penny. Cheers
I’m sad this journey is over. I enjoyed watching these videos.
After watching Kirby’s channel now for months I find myself wearing my nice clothes and shoes more often. Feels good to dress well!
12:40 he was trying to show some sleeves but it didn't work LMFAO 🤣
What an amazing journey! God bless you all!
What a marvellous series. Congratulations to all concerned.
He Looks Extremely Aesthetically Pleasing; I Love The Fabriques; I Love The Cuts; Kirby Allison; Looks Truly Amazing!!!!
The suit that John made is an absolute stunner. Looks like it fits like a glove.... a well tailored glove! I'm new here but I already miss these guys!
One of the best mini series Kirby, real pleasure to hear from the team and follow your bespoke suit experience.
I'm sad this series is over. SUch great craftsmanship and knowledge from everyone. I find this all to be very interesting, and also I have a bit of a crush on Suyamba :).
I can see Terry ruminating on the sleeve length in real time. He tried to get them down and cuff showing and then just backs off and you can see him thinking immediately about fixing it. Bet it’ll be adjusted immediately. Mark of a true craftsman.
I have enjoyed following Kirby and his various suit fittings, having worked in Menswear and tailoring in my youth I enjoy seeing the process and development of the garment. I think the suit John made was the best fitting and nicest I have seen on the channel, from the first fitting when it was quite a way off to reach near perfection was amazing to watch. This is tailoring of the very highest standard, and reflects the superb history of tailoring in London.
It is great to see someone having such high regard and respect for this history of excellence and craftsmanship. Very enjoyable to watch!
Absolutely great series! Even greater suits and tailors!
One of your best with the down-to-earth first-class gentleman.
these guys and the young woman are the best. they are good guys, true gentlemen, and perfectionists. they have a sense of humor. this is almost like a therapy session. imagine, being attended to by people like this, in your life. it would be nurturing, and restore your faith in humanity...!
Oh my days, this came out at such a perfect time for me!
Those suits are really nice. I like especially Terry's, it looks so good on you Kirby. They're amazing suit makers!
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL TEAM OF SKILLED CHARACTERS 😉😎👌👍😋😋😋
Man, I almost don't want to watch this, because it means it's over! Great series, love these guys (and gal)!
Turned out to be extraordinary Kirby!
Love the suits. They lay wonderfully.
What amazingly talented gentlemen... and lady.
This was fantastic. Oddly comforting to watch.
What lovely suits! Perfect for the fall and winter. Great Job they did, I'd say you should get a six on two made by them.
This is what bespoke tailoring is all about; class, craft and craic! What a great mini series, wonderful garments.
Master craftsmen in anyway is nothing less then appreciate for their time an effort, too see such quality is a goal in itself.
Many thanks Kirby for sharing your sartorial journey. Hats off to the detailed craftsmen Kent,Haste and Suyamba for the immaculate flannels. What a series !
Cannot wait for my first bespoke suit experience! Beautiful job as always and those at Kent, Haste & Lachter are true gents and consumate craftsmen (and women).
Kirby greetings from Lakeland Florida and I as others will say great job on this mini series.
“Go to Suitsupply. That’s where we went”. It’s a crime if we don’t see more of these people.
Master Craftsmen, all three. Not something you get to enjoy very often these days. Great series Mr. Allison. Thank you
Nooooo I loved this series... I don't want it to end :(
Congratulations! Both suits are looking amazing!
That lady is extremely beautiful and she's got such a wonderful voice so soothing You got to knowledge I've never owned a suit not the type the way I want but that is definitely on the bucket list
Wow those garments look absolutely superb on you. What class. You’re so lucky! Expert tailoring.
The fit is truly perfect.
Incredible. Every piece is unique in its own way. Wear it in good health Kirby!
Jolly craftsmen. I LOVE this. Thank you for sharing.
Love the finished suits abd loved watching the process always think men look their best suited
Oh my word! Definitely in my future! Fabulous series.
I am rewatching this for the 4th time.
All I can say is thank you , Kirby. Really enjoyed the series. Beautiful garments.
Incredible talent
this trio is something else!
Superb series, Kirby. Grew up very near to London but this part of town seems very much out of reach, so it's amazing to see it through this series. Thanks !
Superb additions to your wardrobe Kirby and what lovely gentlemen Mr. Haste and Mr.Kent are. I think I will be visiting them soon.
I am speechless, those suits are....amazing
This was a great series of videos. I would make a trip to London, just to get these gentlemen to make me a couple of suits.
That house tweed is wonderful. great looking jacket
This was stunning!
This really lit up a sad, snowy, sloppy day! What wonderful workmanship and fit. I wish I had those clothes to wear today. Thank you for sharing it all with us.
The way that tweed jacket fell on you... I could tell it was perfect. I so want to get a suit done by them! The Duke of Edinburgh was my fashion icon even when I was a young teen. Well done.
Great series, great garments. What a treat, thanks Kirby!
That suit is designed to perfection👌🏼
Beautiful done!
I love that blue jacket but that second suit looks absolute class. Excellent looking suit and really does look like something the royals would wear.
Thank you for this series all 3 of the suit makers have been so entertaining to watch.
Loved these vlogs. Such lovely men and S uy as well .
I enjoyed this series. Brilliant as they say!
Great! Super! Wow!
Hope to see these suits worn in the future clips!
I was just in London , 18th of December, and although it was Sunday and closed, I had a little look through the window 👍
The tweed jacket is a beautiful colour
That Bespoke siuts look beautiful indeed.
Both outfits look amazing ❤
Thankyou kirby for a great series with the great Kent and haste the banta between them is superb and an absolute joy to watch once again thank you for all the episode's this year and what's to come next year so have a merry Christmas and a happy new year 🎉
I already miss the three of them.
Please return soon.
That birds eye suit is truly exceptional
Enjoyable series, looking forward to the next!
Love the series. I don’t wear suits anymore, but certainly appreciate these gentlemen and lady. Just an amazing look. Should do a sit down with those three together and separate for another video about all this. I love to hear the lady talk but she just doesn’t get the chance.
Amazing artists.
That tweed jacket is ridiculous. 10000% jealous of Kirby! Great work from the team there
I enjoy watching these great people having a good laugh and a banter absolutely classic in the making🫡✊
John Kent cracks me up, what a perfectionist……
Kent & Haste👍👍💯