The Transgender Threat | Trans Guy Reacts
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Reacting to a very misguided video about a supposed 'transgender threat'
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Jamie, I have to inform you that the two articles you listed for trans athletes actually lead to the exact same study, as in they are the same thing. This study: "Canadian Centre For Thics in Sports, 2021, E.Alliance, Transgender Women Athletes and Elite Sport: A Scientific Review"
However if you want two different ones, you can use the one I just listed plus this other separate study: "National Institutes of Health, B Hamilton, 2024, Strength, Power, and Aerobic Capacity of Transgender Athletes: A Cross-Sectional Study"
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the transgender threat is me when i get mad at a video game
I believe the most common transgender threat is, "If you don't take a step back, you're going to find out how much five years of testosterone therapy and eleven years of working out three times a week has increased my arm strength".
Fr 😂
i was literally about to type this exact comment
😅
the transgender threat is my new drag name
The real transgender threat is me when I find out my corner store doesnt have chocolate oat milk
Real
😂 So real
Have you ever tried chocolate pea milk? It makes me sleepy! 😂 It's called Ripple.
lmfao that's so true
@@instantromy :0 I havent ! I'll try it out if I find it lol
"Biology is not bigotry"
Yeah, well, no one was accusing you of being a biologist.
You don't need anything higher than an elementary level understanding there are only two gender, men and women. You don't need a college degree to know or understand "transwomen" are not and never will be women and that, "trans men" are not men and never will be men. It is impossible.
Thats a great joke😂
biologist would be an even worse accusation to be fair
@@MothNeo How is a biologist even a bad thing, much less worse than a bigot?
@@poigntless i meant for that to come off as a joke, i apologize
The fact my 6 year old cousin has a better understanding of gender than these adults is 'baffling'. I came out as NB this year. Recently one of my little cousins called me "she", his mother corrected him, and he looked confused. After some explaining he said (paraphrasing), "So there's sex, which is your body, and gender which is your mind and soul and stuff?", "Yup!", "And you were born in a girl body, but you don't 'feel' like a girl?", "You're getting it", "AND you don't feel like a boy. So you are... What was it again?", "N.. B..", "NB.. OK! So you don't like she anymore?", "No, I like 'they' and 'them'. Is that ok?", "Yeah! I can do that!", "You're a wonderful little dude", "Maybe I'm really a girl or an NB!", "Yeah maybe! You'll have to grow up and work it out for yourself", "K!"
This story is so wholesome, I'm glad your cousin was accepting!
Haters (bigots) will say you're indoctrinating, but that's actually really wholesome!
Aww... I like how you said that he needed to figure it out himself, not pressuring him, and doing exactly the oppisite of what transphobes think you're doing. I am going to agree with the above replies, very wholesome.
The reason is because he hasn't been indoctrinated, that's what the transphobes don't understand. They're the indoctrinated ones...
The 6yr old has been lied to and non binary is imaginary.
I never understood the whole bathroom "debate". Like, if someone plans to do illegal activities, then they literally won't be stopped by a sign on a door.
Not to mention the fact that if trans women preying on cis women was their actual concern, they should be equally worried about lesbians in women's bathrooms. Their logic isn't even self consistent
I have wondered how they plan to police this. Do they want the government to create a DNA database if everyone and force us to carry and show a government issued ID to use restrooms?
Right? The argument that a cis guy is gonna go full girl mode just to creep in a bathroom when they both balk at even wearing pink, and would just go in, regardless of a sign, if they wanted to do something is ridiculous
Also ngl. I'd be more scared of it being the other way.
Like a pervert is more likely to claim to be a trans man and use that to go into the womens room than to dress effeminate and claim to be a trans woman.
Or just go do what creeps have done for millennia and harass the women in plain view with zero repercussions
Ikr? I'm most confused by transphobes who argue against self ID to change legal sex with that argument. Idk, so far I've never had to show my identity card to enter a bathroom...
I’d rather trust my child with a trans person than with a priest or minister.
That's just going with statistical probability.
as an teenager i feel saver near a trans person as a priest. The trans person would likely not hate me for beeing part at the LGBTQIA+ community
🚨 A convicted sex offender who identifies as a woman has been sentenced to 10 years in prison for two sexual assaults and declared a dangerous offender. Patrick Pearsall, 53, who prefers to be called "Tara," was convicted by a jury last year of sexually assaulting a teenager and a young woman in Toronto.
@@Knoblauchbrot36 "Likely"? Trans ppl are part of the community why would they hate the community theyre part of?
I'm Brazilian, here the richest families pay babysitters all the time to take care of their babies. It was my case. But my mother hired a trans Mtf woman because she really liked her.
Claiming your cruelty is actually love is THE most obvious abuse tactic. It's on the cover of the abuse handbook.
I hate it so much. I prefer it when someone is direct with their hate and not hiding it behind some fake "love". It's so much easier to deal with them that way.
basically the bible
@@gjkdshgkjshjkgdfg huh??
Exactly! And when i was younger and went to church and heard the whole thing about "Spare the rod, spoil the child" i was like...what the fuck??? immediate alarm bells
Obviously trans people know sex is real. We’re in fact probably more aware of it than most people, given that our ‘biological sex’ causes a lot of us extreme discomfort on a daily basis 🤨
As a Christian, it honestly hurts when people use religion as a weapon against others when quite literally one of the big parts of Christianity is to be a kind and good person 😢
You're one of the good ones.
It really is sad. The bible teaches that you should love and respect everyone no matter what or who they are. I'm sorry that there are so many people slandering Christianity by using it as a mask for atrocious behavior.
Amen brother
@@KeepTheAngerFlowing lmfao
Thanks, I'm Catholic and trans. I was able to attend mass with a friend at a church in Milwaukee as myself. It felt nice.
My sister was born with an intersex condition that was correct by a urologists.
Her condition was caused by testosterone washing the fetus slightly later than it should.
Even though my sister was 4 years older than me, I have always known she was trans.
She told me many years before the rest of the family but was 40 before transitioning.
She told me that the day she eventually had her gender affirming surgery she felt whole.
It speaks so well of you that she felt safe and comfortable to tell you. Kudos to you.
Um she was naturally intersex if she had been left alone instead of "corrected" she'd have felt normal instead of missing something. She was missing something it had been taken from her as a baby
this got me thinking, what if being trans as a whole is the result of something somewhat similar? i understand this is a very different case from the average trans person but im just thinking out loud
@@desperado3347 from as far as I know, it is a neuroscience thing. Being trans is an inherent trait that can become more intense with environmental factors.
@@annak804depends on what happened. Sometimes it can actually cause health issues or can hurt the body in some way. Generally it's harmless but there are some cases where a decision needs to be made if the baby's life is at risk. I'm not sure what the case was here so I'm not making any claims. Just glad they are ok.
"Men and women are different from the moment of conception" 😂 they literally did zero research for this
AFAICT they are trying to say that everyone who is a man or woman is that way due entirely to their genes, and that those genes are present from conception. (On a tangent: if someone believed gender and sex are both determined purely genetically *and* accepts that sex and gender aren't the same thing, then "Men and women are different from the moment of conception" wouldn't have to be transphobic view, but alas that's not what the original video assumes.)
At 4:31 they used "his or her" instead of the shorter easier way that a normal person would use "their" because they didn't wanna be caught using they/them/their as a singular pronoun. That's all that was.
The "You can't change your age" comparison they like to use, is, to me, similar to how they misunderstand that sex and gender are different. Yes, I cannot change the date of my birth, but we have societal expectations around someone's age - "He's mature for his age", "He's having a second childhood", "she's an old soul", and phrases like that exist because people defy the age-expectations people set up and just be who they are.
I just said that to my husband!! (We're watching together.)
You cannot change age
Thanks for this!
I’m trans and an “old soul”
And my “old soul” status has been shown not only through actions but also biologically (I got grey hair in my early twenties)
@@slickandslaycious6579ayy I just hit 24 and found some grey hairs.
I, honestly, think it makes a good example when corrected for the context. Gender is a social group related to but separate from the biological group of sex. Just like adulthood is a social group related to but separate from the biological group of age. Many societies have many different ways of judging what makes an adult.
I'm intersex. I was assigned female at birth because no penis was detected. However, I have vaginal agenesis. I developed an extremely small vaginal opening. I was lucky in that I never received any coercive surgeries as an infant, but I have friends who had multiple surgeries on their genitals. We are not the same as perisex trans people, but we are often swept up in transphobia. Perisex transphobes refer to us as "disordered" to make us seem like an outlier and non-applicable in this issue. However, most of us, even those who are cis, feel solidarity with the trans community.
It's honestly insane that people will constantly make the insane claims of "you're forcing children to change their sex and do surgeries!!!" (That literally doesn't happen) Yet they're the ones who would be willing to oblige to cosmetic genital surgeries on LITERAL BABIES! if there's not a genuinely compromising medical issue with an intersex baby, there's no need to make it "fit" with what normal male or female genitalia should look like.
@@lizz-the-dragon2727 I can see that not every doctor who has performed these surgeries had ill intent. Perhaps some of them think that life is easier if you can fit in the female or male box from the start. However, they are still wrong.
@@LibraryofAcousticMagic3240 true
@@LibraryofAcousticMagic3240 their intent does not matter, only the outcome of their actions. and the outcome is child abuse.
@@LibraryofAcousticMagic3240not so fun fact
Some red states REQUIRE doctors to do these surgeries
Im agender and i showed my pride flag to my form tutor, and she said "thinking about it, almost every child is agender until they are 7" and I couldn't agree more
Physically yes but you'd be surprised what fashionistas some pre school girls can be.
Does agender mean you don’t really have a gender or like does it mean you don’t prefer any pronouns?
@@beccasflyingrainbow7886 Everyone has pronouns, and they're not always related to their gender. Someone could have certain pronouns for being online, for example. It's about what they find suitable for social situations. And it's also better just say everyone's sets of pronouns are equal, and no one has a "preferred" set. What they use is what they have.
Agender people could have any pronouns they find suitable, but they lack a sense of "gender." It could be that their sense of gender feels otherworldly, a sense of emptiness, or simply missing. Some even feel like even if they could have a gender they would rather reject that or the idea of having one, and that's fine too!
When I was an EMT, I picked up a patient at the emergency department and the nurse was calling her "He she it whatever". I explained the patient's assigned sex and preferred gender and the nurse was refreshingly receptive. I was ready to FIGHT the LPN at her ECF who refused to call her by her name or use her pronouns, and when I corrected him, said, "No, I know what he is." He doesn't work there anymore. It surprised most of my coworkers how many trans or nonbinary patients they had. I'm glad I was able to be there for LGBTQ+ people when they were at their most vulnerable and advocate for them, and that so many people wanted to learn.
Our hospital got a new EMR that allows for differentiation of gender and sex! Sadly the first transgendered pt I saw on it was misgendered the first admission but we got it right the second time! Honestly made everyone’s job easier to just be able to look at the chart and see “oh they are a transwoman” rather than having the patient explain it to everyone on their care team and then make the needed changes in the care plan.
@@rebeccajesse4604 This makes so much sense! It would also help with ensuring people get sent the right invites and medical information, such as for cervical smears or prostate exams, and to be asked the right diagnostic questions.
It's sad when medical professionals discriminate like that. I heard about a trans woman who needed a catheter purlt in but the nurse refused because the trans woman had a penis. That kind of thing should get you fired and blacklisted. If you refuse to care for a patient, you have no business being in the medical field. I am Jewish. If I were a medical professional I would treat a Nazi because they are a human being.
Thank you
Oof. As a chronically ill person who often spends more time in EDs getting misgendered, having that misgendering justified, and being "explained" to that I'm not trans than why I'm actually there- thank you.
And yes, I report it, so far no one has cared one bit.
The entire scenario they set up is a catch-22. They claim the issue isn’t people who “identify as trans” (we don’t IDENTIFY btw, we ARE), but then go on to say the real problem is anyone “pushing an ideology”… that is to say, ANY trans person who exists publicly, speaks on their experiences, or asks for respect. They even go back on their own claim by claiming that “men identify as women”, so… WHICH trans people are you supposedly not threatened by when you seem to have it out for all of them? From the sound of it, the only “safe” trans people to be around are those who have been bullied into silence.
Edit: Regarding certain replies, I gotta emphasize to y’all… DON’T FEED TROLLS!! Just block em and move on, don’t bother trying to explain things because they don’t care either way. /nm
Which is exactly what they do that entire detransition thing they put out months ago was full of trans folk that were bullied out of transitioning
i'm old (mid 60s).... back when i was a kid it was the evil socialist... then it was the gay agenda... now it's woke and trans ideology... society hasn't collapsed yet... and as a straight person i'm always confused as to what i'm supposed to be afraid of... seriously... what is the Trans Ideology going to do to me that i should be afraid of... i haven't met a person who has tried to turn me gay or trans or whatever... nobody is trying to deny me my "straighness" so why are idiots trying to deny Trans, Gay, Non-Binary etc etc etc etc people's existence and sexuality i don't get it...
Statistically it's me and my fellow straight people who are the threat to literally everyone... nobody is as big a threat as CIS Straight White Men...
Same thing they do to all marginalised groups. The only "good" members of a group are the ones who shut up and accept being treated as less than. Standing up for your basic rights and basic human dignity gets you labelled as a "troublemaker" or "angry" or irrational.
Since they always mention ‘men who identify as women’ then I guess the ones they aren’t threatened by are the ‘women who identify as men’ showing just how misogynistic it is
@@robokill387 Or the ones that try to be the "good" ones by siding with the transphobes. It frustrates me when people transition and then when they are consistently passing they suddenly believe that other trans people should not have access to trans healthcare, as if they would never have needed that exact same care.
Video: But let's talk philosophy
Me: if he says the bible I'm gonna fuse
Video: The bible
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THAT'S NOT PHILOSOPHY THAT'S THEOLOGY
Ps: finished watching the video... Apparently the bible was the only source the person was able to cite...
I may or may not have shouted exactly that at the same moment... They need a good dose of PhilosophyTube!!
@@YourQueerGreatAuntieher video about gender and Judith Butler philosophy is perfect summary of topic
Yup, it is infuriating because a lot of actual philosophy is on trans people's side or transcends gender all together.
EXACTLY!!
Omg I was screaming the same thing at the video!!!
The “What about your sister” stuff always gets me, because my sister is a trans woman. Like, yes, I do worry about her in bathrooms, because of people like the guy making the “Transgender Threat” video!
“Trans people are changing our language!!!”
(Causally pronounces Ideology the worst way possible)
He's also speaking contemporary American English, which seems a bit hypocritical for a guy so opposed to changes in language. I bet he can't even read Beowulf in the original Englisċ, the poseur.
A language that change is alive only dead languages that no people talk day to day like latin ore old greak do not change.
Not me rewatching from the start to hear eedeeology
The thing about being being female until the male hormones kick in is the main plot point of Jurassic Park. If you think about it, all the male dinos in the movie are technically trans.
They are. They got a missing part of their dna from a kind of frog in real life, and when males reduce in number in those frogs, females transition to reproduce
It’s called a T-Rex for a reason 🤌
@@robbieboydudeguy my mind has been blown into multiple piece of atom
@@robbieboydudeguyUnderrated reply, I'm dead
@@robbieboydudeguy This is probably the single best Jurassic Park joke anyone has ever made. I award you all the points, and may Saint Peter high five you on your way to Heaven.
"Men and women are different from the moment of conception." Right there, he just proved that he doesn’t have a clue what he's talking about.
And I have never understood this argument. Why does it matter if someone is intersex? So what if it's rare. Why does that invalidate the trans existence?
Fun Fact: all babies start as female, and _then_ develop male features (ie genetalia) later on in the pregnancy.
@@LoraLoibu yeah, that was my point. I would have mentioned it specifically had Jamie not already.
Transphobes be like : 0112 1011 is a binary number
The biggest part that makes it wrong is that genetics aren't even deterministic; they're probabilistic. Genetics have multiple potential outcomes. Primary and secondary sex characteristics are included.
The reason they try to discount intersex conditions is because they think of it as a sort of error, but in reality, it is an expected possible outcome.
That's an oddly structured sentence to me. I've always seen "man" and "woman" as something people developed into. Like I'm sorry but no one looks at a fetus and says "that's a man"
Transphobes: “uM I dOnT sUpPoRt pRoNoUnS”
English teachers: 👁️ 👄 👁️
Also, doesn't Jesus have special pronouns? Typical nepo baby behavior
The irony of saying "what the philosophy says" and then talking about god 😭😭😭
They want to indoctrinate children with extremist beliefs under the pretext of religion.
The irony of saying "what philosophy says" and then doing *anything* other than linking to an Abigail Thorn video...
Philo Sophos. Love of knowledge or wisdom, depending on your translation. Diametrically opposed to rejecting science because some old book of myths exists - they're not even reading the book to check what it actually says.
@@electronics-girlThere's a joke in there - what philosophy says but Philosophy Tube says the truth.
Yep, like "what the philosophy says" and proceeds to talk about theology.
I was in line at the plasma center a couple days ago and a woman in line is like seven feet tall. She's the tallest person I've ever seen! I couldn't tell if she was trans or not. But even if she was, transphobes will just always call her a man.
I can't remember where, but a few weeks ago, two cisgender women attacked each other ferociously enough to require an emergency room because they both thought the other woman was trans. This transphobia is hurting everyone not just trams people.
It is wild that now they are hurting each other with this witch hunt. There is no threatening boogeyman, stop looking under the bed for something that doesn't exist and will not hurt your children because the threat isn't there.
If historians consider this as the longest standing witch hunt, you will be seen as the bigoted, afraid, and close-minded villager with a pitchfork and torch.
A number of the women in my family are over six feet tall, including those who have been [regnant multiple times. We're just a tall family. And on the other end, doctors have disbelieved me about my intersex condition until they've read my genetic tests, All these idiots who think they can tell who's trans and who isn't just by looking are just advertising their own ignorance.
Hatred has that effect, it's always bad for everyone, basically. I feel for everyone who now has a harder time because of transphobia: us trans people, gender non conforming people, intersex people and cis people who simply don't look like the extremely narrow definition of feminine woman or masculine man that transphobes seem to expect.
I have triple X... Being misgendered regulary. Even when i been around real trans person...
i'd argue trans people are more hurt by transphobia than trams people
I'm intersex and was put on the "correct" hormones in my late teens. It was hellish for me. Took me from having mild dysphoria, to having severe depression and becoming a complete shut-in.
I'm doing way better now, and am on hormones that make my body feel at home. I've also had surgery to undo the damage caused by my original changes from forced HRT.
tl;dr jamie is right about the forced assignment intersex people deal with.
So glad you're doing better!
Intersex should be left alone and intact and they should get the choice not their parents or guardians
God that sounds horrible, I was luckily allowed to just skip puberty until 21 (until i was ready to decide what side i wanna pick) and then doing HRT for a while until my natural hormone cycle got started somehow. Ended up just sticking with girl as my body already had that lean. Only thing it cost me is a bit of boob size, but it saved me mentally for sure.
Wow, he really just said, "Children need conversion therapy. Also, we should treat those poor trans people with love and compassion." WTF?
Dear transphobes, I am thinking about my daughter. I would like her to grow up respectful, understanding and accepting of other people. She will grow up in the future and the last thing I want to do is plant hatred and outdated ideas into her heart.
The biggest transgender threat is when my roommate takes the last bagel.
😂
If they really worried about people attacking cis women in the bathrooms due to sexual desire, then why don't they point out how many lesbians are in the bathrooms?
Between the 70s and the 90s that actually was a big talking point, and before that it was black women in the bathroom. Child and women's "safety" has always been an excuse used to legally discriminate against minorities.
@@rosieg6989 Same shit, different target.
@@rosieg6989"Bigotry... Bigotry never changes."
Or the fact that people in the women's bathroom are more likely to be attacked by a cis man who followed them in thinking they were trans than they are to be attacked by a trans person.
@@LoremIpsum-dp1lioooohhh fallout 4 reference??
I didn't take my non-binary child to drag queen story hours or pride events until AFTER my child came out as non-binary. I didn't influence my child's identity. I simply support it. Because that's what you're supposed to do as a parent. If you can't do that, don't have kids.
I also personally would not choose to worship a deity that requires me to hate people.
I think a lot of people worship the deity they do *because* it encourages their hate. A good fraction of people seem to need to hate groups of people to be able to feel good about themselves.
Which in fact convinces me that this deity, if it existed, wouldn't be worth worshipping. Fortunately, I don't believe it exists.
@@NotGoodAtNamingThings I hate this, because I'm sure you're right.
Pretty much I came to that same conclusion in your last paragraph, and it's why I've decided to think of myself as a humanist. I've decided humans matter more than deities.
@@angiep2229 - I was bullied severely as a boy due to being non gender conforming, decades before the term existed. To the point of cPTSD. I made a decision in 4th or 5th grade that if I ever did to others what was done to me, then I would deserve what was done to me. I've always been careful to avoid even the appearance of bullying.
My biggest disappointment in humanity is that the vast, VAST majority of people who are bullied, at their first opportunity, will bully others.
I think this feeds into people needing to hate others to feel good about themselves. Our culture is full of people who hate. Right, left, center, or off the axis entirely, doesn't matter. It's everywhere.
As an atheist, I've come to realize Christianity itself isn't a bad thing. It's better treated as a philosophy than a religion- treat everyone how you want to be treated, etc
It's the people that weaponize it, or make it into a cult that are a problem.
And I'm so glad your child has such a good parent, I wish all children had parents that were as responsible and supportive
Litterally that's what us trans prople want. We want support. We dont expect cis people to understand because its impossible to truly understand what its like to be trans if you're cis. Respect and support is just perfect for us. Anyways your child is very lucky to have you as a parent. Having supportive parents is one of the biggest game changers for mental health in trans kids.
What is the right’s obsession with “moment of conception”? Seriously!! Why are they so obsessed with the moment of conception? No matter what topic you’re on, if it’s something they don’t like, they find a way to work in the moment of conception!!
It's like saying that you can't be disabled or old or tall, just because you weren't those things at the moment of conception. Also, at the literal moment of conception people are just a sperm and an egg that happen to be together, but humans are definitely not a single sperm cell and an egg just chilling together.
@@hannahk1306 exactly, I’m pretty sure at the moment of conception we’re in the very beginning stages of mitosis
It's a religious presupposition. Which is ironic, given that their own scripture doesn't even talk about the moment of conception as the point when life starts.
It's a reference to a verse in Jeremiah where Yahweh tells the titular prophet that "I knew you BEFORE you were conceived". Of course, if that's a condemnation of abortion, so is abstinence and asexuality.
@@Nemo12417 yet other scripts argue that you aren't alive until you kick, or breathe
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This crap pisses me off so much. My sister lost her kids because her ex thought that I was a threat to them. He was able to higher a lawyer and my sister couldn't. The judge sided with him and my sister fell into depression where she's drinking herself to death. He honestly thought I was a threat to their safety because I'm trans and one of the kids started to experiment with gender. My sister asked about it and the advice I gave was simply to let the kid explore as there wasn't any harm in it. There was no medical intervention at the time but once the kiddo wanted to try puberty blockers, the father stepped in and shut it all down because he looked it up and ended up falling down the terf rabbit hole. My sister refuses to blame me but it doesn't change the fact that if she'd cut me off like the rest of my family, she'd still have access to her kids.
What has happened to your sister is horrendous. I am glad that she doesn't blame you, and I desperately hope you don't blame yourself. It is the fault of a bigoted and ignorant judge and a bigoted and ignorant father. I am so very sorry.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. To your sister and her kids, of course. But to you too! You should not have been made to feel that your existence was a threat to children or to anyone. I hope things get better on this front as society pushes for more acceptance legally. You deserve to have a biological family and not feel like this bullshit society feels you're a threat. I'm really just so disgusted this has happened. 🥺
I feel so sorry for those kids. May they go no contact with that horrible man the instant they can.
Don’t blame yourself for this, the kid was having a pretty normal experience questioning gender and you gave honest advice. I hope that dad isn’t going to be a horrible transphobe, poor kid. His reaction was what caused this, not you. Just do your best to comfort your sister, and maybe research if there’s a way she could get her rights back. It’s not your responsibility in the end but it’s something you can do to feel better. Best wishes to you and your sister ❤️
@@BoredArtoast Is there a way for them of finding and getting a different judge?
Also when people say gay agenda, trans agenda, LGBT agenda like what agenda? As a trans person my copy must’ve gotten lost in the mail
They assume you want everyone to se them self as you see your self but you probably only want us to se you as you see your self. I believe I am a woman beccose I have a vulva from birth and no trans person has ever called my he ore they beccose of that. They won't me to call them she ore he not based on their genitalia but based one their gender-identity and I do so happily. Trans-men are men, trans-women are women and that are not a treat to my a cis-woman that base my gender not one a inside feeling but one a fysical body and previous experiences. (I am not unintentional ally, I am a intensional ally, I trans women are born whiff penises that don't make them men and the other way around for trans-men.
/Swedish cristian bi-cis-woman
I know my Tumblr girlie is showing, but "I can't identify as a centipede?" Quitter talk. You can be a beautiful centipede if it makes you happy
In my country there is a river: Kei. The place on the one side is called Ciskei, the other is Transkei. Yet people in my country still sometimes call cis a slur.
"Bae? What if we kissed under the bridge in Transkei? 👉👈" XD
anyone calling cis a slur is themselves a bigot trying to weaponizd the term.
And the river itself is made of genderfluid.
I stopped at a motorway service station the other day and in the toilet cubicles were boxes to dispose of period products. The box said "Discreet sanitary disposal for men". I suspect they're more concerned with blocked plumbing than equality but it's still a result.
It's for disposal of sanitary products, but not for the type of fluid catching you are thinking...
All bathrooms should have that. They make urinary incontinence pads for people with a penis. So even if a person who has periods never uses the men's bathroom, there is still a good reason for the bins.
I’m a cis guy who lives in Australia and I visited England a couple years back anyway I had a baby face at the time and long blonde hair so I kinda looked a bit feminine right and some absolute c'" came up to me and said "your in the wrong bathroom" and I was thinking mind your own f'cking business and I didn't realise until recently that he was like 100% being transphobic
As a trans woman who went through "therapy" in the 1970s based on John Money's theory of gender malleability, and who "desisted" from the age of 9, I'm really looking forward to your "desistence myth" video which you've teased before. I'd love to talk to you or correspond with this creator about this subject.
FTR: Since starting HRT and social transition in 2022 at the age of 49 my mental and physical health has dramatically improved. I went from being homeless during the pandemic to now being a trusted member of the small agricultural community outside Seattle, living and working in sex segregated spaces designated for women.. I struggled with depression and anxiety throughout my years of "desistence" but am now living without medication, and clinically insignificant levels of depression and anxiety since beginning transition. It's like I was living my whole life trapped in a fog bank, and did not realize it until the Estradiol and social transition made the fog dissipate.
Nothing makes me angrier than being told that affirming care for trans kids is somehow "grooming" after the things that were done to me in order to enforce my conformity to male gender norms. I hope the video comes soon.
PS- I'm currently working on my first YT video, which will be a basic breakdown of what "desistence" cost me, and how it was achieved.
This sounds simular to something that happened to me a particular autism "therapy" that's """makes you neruotypical""" and actually just traumatized the fuck out of you and leads to creating trauma responses to doing anything ? .. is it like that?
@@LiEnby On point. I have recently come to the conclusion that I am probably autistic, because of high scores on the masking and monotropism tests available online, and the fact I feel more called out by autistic content than I did by trans content back in 2001 when I first sought therapy for my "gender issues." (I honestly expected my therapist to tell me I was cisgender with a sick compulsion of some kind - he eventually told me I was practically a cliche) I sort of came into that realization about autism sideways, realizing first that I am on the asexual spectrum, then finding autistic channels that had made some content about being gray ace, and eventually coming across "I'm Autistic, Now What" which is a fantastic channel that anyone on the spectrum who enjoys Jamie and Shaaba would enjoy, imo.
The "therapy" I got for my gender issues was essentially training me to mask. So it's little wonder I became very good at it, to the point where many people who know me don't believe me when I tell them I am likely autistic, because my social presentation is so well practiced. I have meltdowns, shutdowns, and severe executive dysfunction, along with some relatively subtle "stims" that no one else really notices. I'd always attributed those things to my PTSD related anxiety and depression, but as the depression and anxiety abated with transition, those issues remained.
As soon as I can afford an official evaluation, I intend to seek one.
I published my first YT video 10 months ago, after 2 years on HRT. Before then, I had been too camera-shy even to take a private selfie, much less post a video online! Go for it! Even if only one person takes your message to heart, it's still a noble cause. 🙂
So nice you feel better.
It has been said that trans kids can't have surgeries due to random reasons, and yet, Intersex kids are forced to undergo the same treatment/surgeries from birth, because thier parents chose for them. It's quite a bad paradox here.
Just have to say, while the parents do decide, it is usually an uninformed decision. The doctor is usually responsible, they'll tell the parents something is wrong with their kid, something that could really make their lives miserable, but if they let the doctor take the baby for a couple hours everything will be alright. They often won't even say what is "wrong" with the child, so being told by a medical professional that something is wrong with your newborn baby (that you are still recovering from just delivering) but there is an easy fix, it feels very simple to just say yes. There have even been cases where doctors take away the child under the guise of cleaning/weighing, or just a quick examination, and do the procedure without the parents ever knowing at all.
Now of course some parents do know what intersex is and make that terrible choice for their child, but I just wanted it to be clear it often isn't so black and white. Something Intersex experts recommend to expecting parents is to research the common excuses doctors make to understand if you are being tricked once you give birth, and if it does happen what questions to ask to make sure what is about to happen is truly in the child's best interests and not societies.
Intersex need to be left alone and not mutilated by a doctor
@@rosieg6989 That's terrible! From the doctors, I mean. Geez.
@@sonnentausnest Some places it is becoming illegal, but again from how secretive the doctors can be it still often happens...and then there are places that are legally protecting medically unnecessary intersex surgeries on minors.
And that circumcision is commonplace in the US. They aren't even pretending that they're not already operating on babies, and yet they go on about the trans community, when that isn't even happening.
It's pure propaganda. I can't understand why some people are spending so much time, energy and money on spreading hate and fear towards the trans community.
The walls of Rome are crumbling, and yet the leaders are busy ridding the city of witches and astrologers in fear of losing their power.
It helps get people to buy whatever they are selling.
If they can get people angry, then people are engaged with their politics.
They can purposefully mislabel something, blame a group of people that isn’t the majority, make the majority angry, and get them to buy something out of anger.
A long time ago, the GOP found that if you use Sex as a wait to bait people, you can get them to engage with their politics and make them valid political stances by engaging.
It happens whenever politicians have nothing to offer to help people. So they need to find some minority group to blame for all of society's ills, and take the scrutiny off their own incompetence.
Scapegoating is unfortunately I tried and true method of politically manipulating people.
Social supremacy, eh... I mean cohesion. I try again: Social fascism. Damn it! Cohesion! Cohesion! Okay, last try: Social backwardness. Shet! SO close!
One of these days I'll get it right. But anyway, their form of cohesion isn't social but fascist and they don't care who they hurt, not even if it's their own children (vaccine anyone?). They don't care about well being, the future, or about what is true or not. They care about maintaining a status quo of keeping up appearances and promoting ignorance as a virtue that gives bliss and they are more than willing, call it demanding and forcing, to sacrifice everyone else for their personal comfort for the next ten minutes. They have less honesty and self awareness than clinical psychopaths. They say they care about children and make their children's lives more dangerous. They say they care about the future and deny all research and vote for more profit at the cost of the future of their own children and everyone else's. They can't be trusted with anything, not their words and not anyone's well being or safety.
Frustrating and twisting progress and reality is their whole plan of attack, to gain more (dense and ignorant) followers to support them to force their fascist cohesion upon everyone with no care for anyone's lives of futures. This has been the fascist handbook since before the term fascism was even introduced. Propaganda has always been a part of it. Repeat the lies often enough and people won't believe it even can be a lie if so much effort and (non existent) research has put in it.
This isn't new, nor is it something any adult should be wondering about, you should _know_ all this from history class where you're supposed to learn about previous fascist regimes, how they came to power, and the unsustainability of the necessity of requiring lies to keep up appearances to feign strength, pushing out intellect that is needed to maintain and grow societies and to progress, and how many millions were oppressed and killed or worse during those regimes.
Those who forget history are damned to repeat it.
the idea that people get fired for refusing to respect someone's "preferred" pronouns is absurd (first of all they aren't preferred-- those are their pronouns it's not optional). you'd only get fired if you consistently and maliciously/harmfully did it to the point of harassment. if you just slipped up a couple times it wouldn't matter, it's when you start HARASSING SOMEONE IN THE WORKPLACE that your employment becomes unstable.
I'm enby and use they/them pronouns. I had a manager who would gender me correctly and be nice to me to my face, but would (unbeknownst to me) blatantly misgender me to my fellow employees every day I wasn't there.
Then after months of her gaslighting me in little ways, she triggered my PTSD one day so badly that I had to quit my job that same week. And she misgendered me, but pretended it was a mistake, after having correctly gendered me to my face for *months* and not slipping up even once.
If anything, I've experienced it's generally the other way around. Granted, maybe that situation is because she was a manager, but anyway.
Exactly. It's about creating a hostile work environment. Same would apply if a coworker insisted on calling Joe, Fred. They would be creating a hostile work environment if Joe didn't like being called Fred.
Yep. Reminds me of the co-worker who blamed me for losing his job "because [trans people] are so sensitive".
Yeah, why he actually lost his job was because he decided to ask me how I have sex, with very explicit details in the question, with children mere steps away. Whose parents were present. I literally just pointed at my bosses office and one of them ran for it (well not actually run, it was a pool deck after all). Oh, and this was his first shift and the first time we met. He didn't finish the shift.
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As a cis woman, the arguments that trans women don't belong in women's sports because they have "biological advantages" is just so offensive because it's always stated in a way that naturally frames women as "less than" men. I saw a post on Facebook once that stated that trans women don't belong in sports because, in the warped mind of the op, there's no way that the best woman tennis player could match against any of the top 100 man tennis players. It's just so misogynistic. Transphobia hurts all women, cis and trans, and has no place in our society.
There are definitely some sports where on average, people with a male body type and hormones have a physical advantage. There are others where the reverse is true, and where there is no significant difference. But there are also always individuals that don't fit the average and would excel in the "wrong" sport if given the opportunity.
More sports should just have mixed brackets, to also reduce issues where one team is paid less than another based purely on gender expression and manufactured popularity.
There is some truth in this. Testo helps build muscles, giving people with a higher testo level an advantage in sports that rely on strength.
They are also using this excuse to ban trans women from, and I am not joking, fishing competitions, boat racing, chess playing, darts, and beauty pageants. Saying it is unfair to cis women, but by saying that they are implying males are inherently somehow better than females at fishing chess and darts?
@@rosieg6989not to mention also used it to argue that trans people should be banned from genderless events
Articles shunning trans runners exist, for running in charity marathons Donald Trump could have run in.
Oh man thank you!!! No one ever seems to bat an eye at a transman competing in male sports because “oh they are a “woman” so they are at a disadvantage”. It’s insulting. When people start talking about how testosterone is the key factor, which testosterone does increase capacity to build muscle, it doesn’t take into account ciswomen with high testosterone levels or the fact that transwomen are generally on hormonal therapy to block testosterone production. Also, if someone trained hard and excels at their sport, they should win. Isn’t that kind of the point of sports? It’s just frustrating because, if sports needs to be changed so people can compete fairly then change the sport, don’t try to use it to discriminate against people.
0:37 “Nearly 6 minute video” it’s roughly 35 minutes… oh boy this will be fun
I was just about to comment that
Wrong timestamp, he says that at 0:37
But I agree, this'll be a ride
Unfortunately, it is in truth a brilliant piece of work on Jamie's part to dissect six minutes of rapid-fire lies in a mere 35 minutes.
Hence the saying, "A lie can get to the other side of the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes".
@@arcadiaberger9204thats an amazing saying
That's a gish gallop for ya, disproving the falsehoods and misinformation takes multiple times longer than just saying shit like there's no tomorrow and truth doesn't matter.
If people are going to make transphobic videos like this, they should at least do proper research on how these things actually work-
If they did that, they wouldn't be able to make a video anymore! Not in "good" conscience anyhow.
@FowlsNest True lol. As I watched the rest of the video, I realized they were outright lying about studies
the only way to make trans people look illegitimate is by outright lying
Fr lol. They think they’re scientists and it’s honestly kind of funny. “Trans people are going to make your kids trans” brother-😭😭
They should. They won't.
Lmao I am so tired of the biology argument.
"Are gay people real? Let's talk about physics."
It's a sociological discussion, not a biological one.
Even biologically, they’re wrong. BRAIN AND BODY ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. So trans people and the whole LGBTQIA+ community are REAL.
The disgusting thing about splitting hairs over trans studies not having comparison groups/control groups is that having such a control group might necessitate Forcing Trans People Not To Transition for the extent of the study. Studies like this typically last for *YEARS* . And since we already know that transitioning medically and/or socially to match one’s gender alleviates gender dysphoria and other mental health issues, what trans person in their right mind is going to willingly stay in the gender presentation that doesn’t reflect who they are for YEARS? Destroying their self image and health for a large portion of their life? Possibly irreparably? A study like that would be *unethical* . Period
Oh yeah, anti-vaxxers do a similar thing by demanding all vaccines be tested against a biologically inactive placebo. But the problem is that would mean that in the cases where a proven vaccine exists some people in the test would have to forego the protection of that vaccine. Since many vaccines are given to kids this would mean leaving kids unprotected from preventable diseases.
The principle that prevents this kind of thing from being done is called clinical equipoise.
@thenerdasaurus3717 They could, of course, use comparisons between those lucky enough to receive gender affirming surgery and those who for any number of reasons can't access it to obtain a more objective study of the benefits versus the detriments. I know there are some trans people who have been obstructed from achieving surgery for many years, their mental health is quite fragile and precarious
@@NomadSoul76 it wasn't vaccines, but wasn't something similar done with the Tuskegee Syphilis Study?
I opened up to mom about possibly seeking medical transition. after she had previously said that I have been so patient with my body and just need to hold out longer, she flips a switch and says I’m only seeking it because I’m obese. Sure mom. I’ll see a nutritionist and go on a diet, but I doubt that *your* insecurities about *your* weight will make *my* breasts disappear.
Bruh she sounds like a handful. Good luck man.
real
do we seriously have the same mom omg
I'm sorry your mom is so unsupportive. It took my mom years to see that medical transition was a good fit for me! You know yourself best.
When Jamie said, if everyone knew their chromosomes, there would be some surprises; I was curious. Apparently the commercial DNA tests don't test/share that information. So even people that think they do know their chromosomes may not.
Really? I'm pretty sure my 23andMe report said I'm XY. (And yeah, I was disappointed when I read it, because I'd still been holding out some hope that I might not be.)
In college and uni in the 80's people actually would get to examine their own chromosomes in the lab here.
About 1/10 found they were intersex... and the faculties stopped the practice because so many were shamed or embarrassed.
Between myself and my five children, we only know the chromosomes of one - and that only because my blood test in early pregnancy showed a heightened risk of trisomy. The chromosome check was to look for that and the sex chromosomes were a "by the way, while we're looking."
Fun fact: I needed to test my chromosomes to get HRT. Turns out I got XY but a heightend amount of Testosteron in my blood. It felt like my body tried to correct itself but wasn't able to do it on his own
@@nekokaitou4027 my doc also wanted to test my chromosomes before getting me on HRT. It's not exactly legally required where I live, but I also didn't mind, cause I actually wanted to know myself.
(Out of shitty reasons, cause I felt so invalid as enby that I hoped to be intersex without taking into account how much a lot of intersex people had to suffer from an early age on. I was just an insecure coward who wanted "proof" that I could shove into someone's face. But till this day I'm glad to know my chromosomes so I could put this thought aside and deal with the reality of being a trans non-binary person and not intersex. Otherwise I would always had questioned that part about myself.)
Red hair is more rare than intersex
My school didnt teach anything about being LGBT+ but im still trans... its almost like teaching doesnt equal some magical conversion
...and you were, almost certainly, brought up in a hetero-normative environment. Funny how exposure to something doesn't have any impact in making someone that which they're exposed to
It's so funny that you and I are the people they think SHOULD go in women's rooms, on account of the circumstances of our birth, and yet if we did go into a women's room, we'd make women uncomfortable.
As a cis woman, this is also what I argue lmao. I'd feel more comfortable with trans women.
EXACTLY
I've said it a million times, forcing Trans women out of women's spaces and forcing Trans men in will just make it easier for Cis men to get in women's spaces, Y'know, that thing they're so worried will happen if they let Trans women so much as breathe the same oxygen as Cis women
I think every public location should have a few single bathrooms, not just for handicapped but for those with anxiety or those who feel uncomfortable in gendered bathrooms. But I also believe that if you have a penis and are over like 6-8 years of age have no reason to be in an active female bathroom.
@@annak804How much of a penis counts as a penis? If an intersex woman has an enlarged clitoris / micro-penis, does she have to use the men's room? Does a trans woman have to announce once she's had bottom surgery before she's allowed in? What if she's unsafe in the men's room after starting hormone therapy but before she's had bottom surgery? What type of bottom surgeries disqualify trans men from being forced by anti-trans bathroom laws to use the ladies? Are they allowed to ignore anti-trans legislation if their penises are big enough, or are they just not allowed in any bathroom? Is there a designated genitals inspector for these things? I'll skip the question of where disabled penis-possessors go if their current caretaker isn't in possession of a penis.
Just let people pee in peace.
@@annak804 Who's going to regulate that? And how? Also, by default, this means more masculine looking women, even cis women, would be regarded with increased suspicion. And, your comment doesn't address where trans men are supposed to go, which is what the original commentor was discussing. The best solution, imho, would be to build/rebuild all public use toilets to have stalls with floor to ceiling walls and actual doors that securely lock, and make them all gender neutral. Then no one would have any reason to worry about who has what genitalia, and everyone would be able to use the toilet in peace.
I think the thing that pisses me off the most about these types of people, is that they're ALWAYS firing at trans women, I NEVER see trans men thrown into the firing line as much as them and it disgusts me, because they think "oh it's a MaN dressing as a wOmEn to be pervy" and that's so wrong
It's because the arguement falls apart the second you put Trans men into the mix.
Main reason why?
*It's far easier for a guy to just claim he's a trans male and then just take stuff like sports, bathrooms, etc than it ever is to be to attempt to mimic a trans woman*
I seriously think some of these people just infantilize women and demonize any guy who isn't themselves (for the dudes)
That is true, but every time you point it out, Abigail Shrier writes another chapter for her next book.
It's because of mysoginia. Those people see women as poor little things helpless and unable to take decisions for themselves. So they see trans women as predators from whom they have to protect the poor helpless cis women, and they see trans men as lost girls who've been brainwashed by gender ideology and are being manipulated into destroying their beautiful female body. Because they see trans men as women and they see women as weak and manipulable, they don't consider trans men to be a threat but they see us as poor little things that have been brainwashed, because the idea that we can have agency on our body and take decisions for ourselves without being influenced is impossible for them.
There is also a lot of mysoginia in their hate of trans women. Like they, consciously or not, see women as inferior so the idea of trans women makes no sense to them because why would someone being born male would "want to be a woman" (using their words). The only conclusion for them is that trans women must be men trying to attack women.
So, to summarize, for transphobes :
- If you're a trans woman, you're actually a predatory man who wants to attack helpless cis women
- If you're a trans man, you're actually a naive girl who's been manipulated because you can't take decisions for yourself and your body
Pure mysoginia. It's funny so many transphobes call themselves feminist when their transphobia is rooted in mysoginia.
Yep. Or when they say "wE dOn'T WaNt pErvErTs iN ThE bAtHrOoM WiTh LiTtLe GiRlS, tHEy sHouLD bE iN tHe mEn'S BaThRoOm". Like oh, so they want perverts in the bathroom with little boys?
@@entwixed3406 I wonder if some of them are even only attacking trans women and forgetting about trans men, because they would never be "in danger" of dating a trans man...
But I have seen to many shitty and tosic dating coaches "warning" their male audience to look for signs that she could be in fact trans...
"What does philosophy say" *immediately brings up god*
Philosophy is also ridiculously subjective..
@@LiEnby exactly, it's kind of a given that different thinkers don't agree with each other.
What does biology say... [Insert whatever opinion they have as a non-biologist]
Biology says trans people exist and therefore should have rights
@@kingnightmarevin thank you biology 😊🏳⚧️
i love how they took a medical coverage saying "gender dysphoric people don't need any kind of trans affirming care to be covered by us. it won't do anything to help them cause we don't wanna have it come out of our pockets." And medical coverage people are the same people who will cover the cost of a medicine for me for 4 months for an incurable, life-long illness then tell me I don't need it anymore I don't need disease meds for my disease.
"I won't deliver this to your house because you are young, why do you need so many medications?" Type shit. The usa is the golden goose of the pharmaceutical industry charging 1000% and more for a life sustaining medication.
I'm so sorry 🫂
They also don't blink at paying for Viagra, but will object to any other gender-affirming care.
Yep. With one insurance I was on, I had to fight every year to get my meds covered for an incurable condition. You know, just in case I didn't still have it. They also argued there was zero proof anything was wrong with my uterus...years into paying for narcotics for my cramps. Yes, narcotics for cramps, hysterectomy recovery was less painful than my average period. Average, not worst.
I have gotten through most of this video without making comments, but I got to “biology is not bigotry,” and I just gotta say that incorrectly studied, interpreted, and applied biology have been used as bigotry for a long time. Things like using “biology” to say that black people are closer to animals than white people, the entire field of social darwinism, the blatant sexism in this transphobic video where they said that men are “biologically” stronger than women. Like yes, real biology is not bigotry, but incorrect biology, like that being presented in this video, is very often bigotry
@@KrimsonKattYT Only on average - it's nowhere near that black and white. It's certainly easier for cis men and trans men on testosterone to be stronger than others (due to the higher testosterone levels), but there are many women who are stronger than some men.
This is why "simple biology" arguments fall over, because human biology is not simple. The simplified examples are purely to make the concepts easier to understand, they don't tell the whole picture and can't really be used as absolutes because they lack the nuance of reality.
Essentially, whilst a lot of what you've said is true, it's far too generalised to be a useful distinction at anything lower than a population level. Individuals are far more complex than the approximate categories that we use and any patterns found within those categories.
@@KrimsonKattYT You are correct about a lot of what you just said. One of the really cool, at least I think it’s cool, things about humans is that we have more individual variation than we do sexual dimorphism, which basically means that secondary sex characteristic falls into two bell curves that are mostly overlapped. Muscle mass, fat distribution, facial hair, body hair, voice pitch, height, and so on can be found to varying degrees in everybody, but the averages for a single one of these things will be different for people with more estrogen than testosterone and vice versa.
One of the categories I listed was muscle mass, but muscle mass is not the same thing as strength. Higher levels of testosterone make it easier to build muscle, especially in the arms and torso, and makes all those muscles more defined. But it does not make them stronger. Estrogen, conversely, makes it easier to build muscle mass in the legs, but it doesn’t make muscles more defined. And again, a person can have a lot of muscle mass and still not be strong, or very little muscle mass and be strong. Because we, as a society, both value upper-body strength more (think of all the sports that prioritize it), and often conflate muscle mass with strength, it has led rise to the common misconception that men are biologically stronger than women, if only on average.
And there is one more point here (and I do not think you’re suggesting this, it’s just additional context). The misconception that men are stronger than women (this time typically that all men are stronger than all women), is why we have women’s sports at all. The gender segregation is necessary in order to maintain the falsehood, because it would be a lot harder to say that men are stronger than women if they’re losing to women. That’s why gender-integrating sports used to be a big feminist issue, until the TERFs more or less. This is also where, more recently, the transphobic element has come into play. Transphobes don’t think of trans women as women, but as men, and although the rhetoric is that we can’t let men into women’s sports because of their biological advantage, the actual concern is that those men, whether or not they’re actually trans women, will lose, poking holes in the myth.
And what exactly is my point here? Well, that higher levels of testosterone does not make someone on average stronger than someone with higher levels of estrogen, but moreover that the sexist idea that men are biologically stronger than women (particularly without the “on average” part), is linked to the transphobia in sports, and in order to dismantle one I think we are going to need to dismantle both
Almost all bigotry is rooted in pseudoscience and CTs. Racial prejudice is a good example, because there is no genetic basis for the socially constructed groups we think of as races.
Can't have bigotry without pseudoscience.
The arguments transphobes are making are rooted in eugenics. It's been the basis of attacks on women, black people, gay people, and now trans people. "Basic biology" my arse.
Fun fact: the ONLY reason European people are called "Caucasian" is because the eugenicist responsible subjectively found the human skull from the Caucasus mountains to be the nicest looking. The skull likely belonged to a Scythian individual that has far more in common with eastern Asians and Persian ancestors than Europeans. 🤦♀️
Me as an intersex every time someone gets out the chromosome bullshit:
"Okay, give me the graphing calculator, I need to calculate how much cis, trans and nonbinary I am"
*I'm going to keep saying it... I've studied the (Hebrew) Bible for over 30 years. Nothing anti-trans in there! Nothing anti-LGBT+ at all! Living authentically is the most common theme in there! As a religious person, it pisses me off that some people blame their bigotry on the Bible! Diversity is a thing, whether we say that's from Gd or not, so get over it, Karen!
*As I watch this, I recall that you and your wife are currently visiting here in the US. I hope y'all have a good time here. 💖💖
*Happy Pride Month! 🙏❤🏳🌈🏳⚧🟦
They take smal a parts like one sentence out of its context.
"men and women are different from the moment of conception" ... Um, no they're not???
Believing in science would break their religious idea of a divinely-established gender hierarchy.
They have to believe that women are fundamentally different and inferior to men or else their wives might stop taking care of them.
AFAICT they are trying to say that everyone who is a man or woman is that way due entirely to their genes, and that those genes are present from conception. (On a tangent: if someone believed gender and sex are both determined purely genetically *and* accepts that sex and gender aren't the same thing, then "Men and women are different from the moment of conception" wouldn't have to be transphobic view, but alas that's not what the original video assumes.)
5:40 "Men and Woman are different from the moment of conception" Starting out with something false. During the early development of the gonans the of the fetus remain undifferentiated; meaning all fetal genitalia are the same and Phenotypically female. After 6-7 weeks is when changes Start.
It’s like people reasoning life begins at conception. It literally doesn’t. When the sperm enters the egg and attaches to the side of the uterus, it just chills as a clump of cells for like 12 or so days. Like it doesn’t actually start developing into a zygote until a significant time after conception.
Ok, but it's also not "assigned" at birth, either
@itsstaygoldnotstaygolden you're right! It's "observed by the doctor" at birth and that's what they put on your birth certificate and other legal documents.
@@itsstaygoldnotstaygolden it is assigned, the person below you is wrong.
did you ask the child? no. you assigned them a gender on their birth certificate.
@@kaelin_cherise gender on a baby cannot be observed.
I had been s****** and seriously depressed pretty much constantly since around the age of 15. While that had a lot to do with my general mental health diagnoses the moment that I even REALIZED that I was trans and started socially transitioning two years ago, I have experienced a significant decrease in s******* ideation and situational depression. Now that I've started physically transitioning, it has gotten even better. The fact that these people are spouting bullshit about how people who transition are worse off (for the large majority) makes me so infuriated.
You got the intersex correct. I had a castration (which they called a cliterectomy) when I was 15 months old. I was started on estrogen as a twelve year old. I was in my late 40's when I decided I was male.
19:01 Medicare categorizes hearing aids as cosmetic and therefore doesn't cover them, even for children who have been deaf from birth. Is that evidence that hearing aids have no functional value? Absolutely not. As you say, Jamie, an insurance company's job includes denying coverage for as many things as they can justify. This is especially true for things that are political hot-button issues.
Yep. I've had insurance refuse my nausea meds. Because apparently being able to eat is optional? I've had to prove I still have an incurable condition. Insurance companies want to make money, not help people.
well that sucks ass. where do you live?
4:32 There are no "innate physical characteristics". That's not only transphobic, that's xenophobic as well...
Prager is a white nationalist organization.
"xenophobic" is too generous a read for the genocidal fascists.
its prageru, what do you expect
I think eye color would be an innate characteristic
@@alisaurus4224Not even that is innate. Numerous conditions can cause a person to gain or lose pigmentation in one or both eyes, which is one of the causes of heterochromia where a person has eyes of different colors. Eye color is fascinatingly complex. Possibly the most innate characteristic would be blood type, but even that's more complex than A, B, AB, and O, with Rh+ and Rh- variants. Considering we have people out there who are chimeras -- they have not one but two sets of DNA -- genetics and inheritance can get pretty wild.
@@lrfcowper hell, sometimes people's eyes just change color for no reason in particular during their lifetime.
I’ll admit; watching this made me realize that a lot of trans-/lgbt-phobia is a kin to a lot of the red scare during the Cold War
there was actually a thing called the lavender scare similar to this (i think it was the 60s)
@@TopHattedWeirdo I was more saying the current trend of it is like that
5:23 mate, my biology teacher with a doctorate in neurology stated CLEARLY sex and gender are entirely separate. I guarantee you this guy failed his biology class.
Interseks person here. AMAB, but body always went to the female side and got seen as female from a young age. Never went through the wrong puberty (no blockers) and ended up with a female voice, wide hips and same height as an average female in this country.
Apparently I have working ovaria which pushed my body this way. I only corrected that one thing that wasn’t female.
Though downside of working ovaria: periods 😢
ouch
I know I shouldn't ask, because I don't want to invade your privacy, but the way you described that gave me the imagen of someone having periods with no way for them to come out 😨... hopefully that's just my brain being dumb, wish you the best and for you to enjoy the rest of your life
@@KrimsonKattYT 🫂
@@gabrieljimenez7845 they checked for that because that is indeed dangerous. Nope I don’t have an uterus. I don’t want kids anyway so care.
So no blood and less cramps. I get all the other symptoms though, because they are hormone driven and not depending on an uterus.
@@KrimsonKattYT 🫂
Looks wise I indeed hit the jackpot. Some even called me pretty when I was younger 😕.
Though that also had it's downsides. Never gotten seriously because "pretty girls can't be smart" and getting harressed and getting cat called. So far for "pretty privilege". As a child I got teased a lot with the song "meisjes met rode haren" (girls with red hair). Having some longer hair and neutral clothes were enough to get clocked as a girl.
I even got sent out of a swimming pool on vacation to put on the rest of my bathing suit (read the top piece).
Even if they thought that I was a girl, why do adults bother when the girl is only like 6? There is nothing to hide xD.
My life was far from a walk in the park though. My parents did not really pay any attention to me so they totally missed how I was looking. Missed that puberty wasn't starting at 12 and as result (looking as a young girl) I got bullied a lot.
And PE sucked. It wasn't that I was bad at it, but with a female build and hormone levels I could never reach the standards they asked me to to. If I were grated against the girls list I would have 8's instead of a mearly 6.
And I learned very fast I was no match for the guys that bullied. I had to fight like a girl to have any chance.
Not that my parents were hatefull towards me not being typical, they were just not paying attention.
Though I'm glad they forced me to take martial arts when I was young. As an adult I needed it unfortually :(
The female puberty started around 16 leaving me with wierd symptoms that I could not place. At least not for what I was.... The years later during the medical process I kinda got the answer when they looked in why my hormone levels were so wierd. As in: My estrogen levels peak just below the values of an ovulating cis female.....
Technically I don't need to take the hormones. But I inherited, just like my sisters, PMS from my mom. So I still gonna take them for that :P
Though the downside of those good hormone levels: they (read the insurance) don't want to do more tests to check which type I actually are. I just know I'm intersex because of the ovaria. If I have to guess: 46XX/46XY.
The hilarity of "so I can just identify as 25?" nonsense is.... people already do that. It's already part of our culture for (usually women) to go "oh, i'm turning 29! (for the 5th year in a row)" so they don't have to be 30.
Same with the "well then I identify as 6'2"!" Men already do that! My father was barely 5'11" but always insisted he was 6 foot. Men on dating apps are constantly saying they're taller than they are.
Same with weight! They don't weigh you at the DMV. Your drivers license can say whatever you want it to. "Legally" I'm 20 pounds lighter than I am because I've just never bothered to update it!
And race! It's less common or accepted now, but people will gladly tell you they're "1/16 Cherokee" or some crap.
All of their stupid "well if you can 'identify' as a man I can 'identify' as x" crap is shit people already do!
I've never understood why American driving licences have weight and height on them - I don't know any other country that does this. It's not like driving licences ever existed in an era without photographs, so there was never any need to list physical descriptions.
On UK licences, the only information that might change is your address (which legally you have to keep up-to-date) and which vehicles you're allowed to drive.
Also, the way that people treat each other, and the expectations they place on each other on the basis of age, height, weight, and racial characteristics, are all social constructs. Furthermore, these characteristics can change over the course of one's life. Transracial actually refers to a real thing, typically children of interracial parents, children of immigrants, or people who emigrate to another country and assimilate into the culture. If you were to check your ancestry and find out there was a racial heritage you did not previously know about, and you decided to learn about and adopt the customs of that culture, you could be considered transracial.
I have to point out that many aspects of things like weight and age are mutable and constructs.
I consider myself an old woman, even though my biological age is early 30's... cause I have conditions that drastically reduce my lifespan and I doubt I will live beyond 40, additionally I have a lot of relatable issues you'd typically only see in old age, I'm frail and sickly and disabled and require the same level of care and support.
Vice'versa I have friends in their 60's-70's who have the physicality and mentality of a typical 30yo running rings around me and enjoying all the media and activities typically associated with young people.
There are also plenty of adults who'd often get called childish because they enjoy things typically associated with children, children's cartoons, games, being read stories, exploring playgrounds, playing with toys.
In terms of weight, I'm 6'4" and barely 140lbs... but I would easily consider myself fat cause I still have plenty of fat on my body, and of course plenty of bigoted people would call me fat cause I'm not skin and bones.
Many people wear heels cause they enjoy the height it gives them, others feel small and act little no matter their size.
What people consider tall and short and fat and thin and old and young are all still influenced and constructed from culture and perspective.
Granted... ask a right-winger what a 14yo girl is and they'd say 'an adult human female of marrying and breeding age'.
But they're also the transphobic idiots who only state their identity as mockery.
If you meet a 100yo man who identifies with a 10yo princess... then give them a tiara, throw a tea-party and marathon the Tinkerbell movies.
Who tf cares?
Those things are different, and I definitely wouldn't draw this analogy, because those people are explicitly *lying.* They're harmless white lies for the most part, but lies nonetheless. Trans people aren't lying. Their gender identity is 100% sincere and accurate.
@@hannahk1306 yeah. Like height kinda makes sense because that's not something you can easily change yourself, but weight can fluctuate much easier. I'm just glad my state doesn't do weight.
13:37 "i IdEnTiFy As An AtTaCk HeLaCoPtEr" they only have the one joke and theyve repeated it so much they take it as fact.
Intersex person here. I was subjected to surgeries as a young child. They chose wrong.
So sorry they did that to you. I hope things are better for you now.
That immediately made me think of the line "He chose... poorly" from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
I'm so sorry that happened to you.
Sorry you had to go through that.
I'm also curious if you don't mind. Does that make you both intersex and transgender?
@@spaceorc1397 thanks
The transphobes are so confused
The poor transphobes need help to escape from their unhealthy lifestyle.
Confused but dangerous
Not at all. They carefully and deliberately cover their ears when confronted with new information.
When debating against a transphobe , you don't actually fail to disprove their arguments : You debunk them, respond with an argument they can't debunk, and then they pretend it never happened and reuse the same arguments you just debunked five minutes later.
Somehow not as confused as me when trying to understand what they say 😔 /j
and/or stupid
HOW DID I NEVER NOTICE THE BLAHAJ IN THE CORNER???????????????
Also happy pride month 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
To everyone reading this, I'm writing this to protect YOUR children! The _real_ trans threat is the blahaj shark army. That's right, faithful followers of conservative christian american values. Don't ever let your children near a blahaj plushie. It will stare at them with its shark eyes and affirm that they are, in fact, the opposite gender. They will cuddle with it and imagine having boobs if they're a boy or that they have the top of a man if they're a girl. Its gender characteristics so cleverly blurred to tear apart the gender binary OUR country is founded upon, while presenting as an innocent animal to play with. Its shark mouth so cute yet so passively aggressive. Its blue, white and pink colors secretly made to resemble the trans flag while staying under the radar. To every caring parent reading this, don't EVER let a blahaj shark near your kids, save your kids' lives and our nation's values.
HOLY SHIT I JUST NOTICED LMAOO
"What does philosophy say?" I don't know, you gave an example of theology 🙃
I mean theology is technically a branch of philosophy. It just so happens this particular branch of philosophy being used in the way it’s being used is not the best argument they could be making.
They’re not wrong in calling it philosophy, they’re wrong in assuming that because it’s philosophy they can lean back on dogma without actually supporting anything they’re saying.
Theology is philology but philosophy is not prof that something is objectively true.
/Cristian swedish bi-cis-woman
@@kaylaa2204 Then where's my indigenous philosphy! He should sit us down and talk to us about two-spirit too!
@@uploader109 oh good point, yeah he was also treating “philosophy” like a source of objectivity, as if no disagreement would exist, that’s definitely the much bigger problem
But idk I made that comment over a month ago
“Our internal organs are different” feels like a really half assed attempt to not reduce bodies down to genitals. That or this person thinks men and women have different spleen placement or something?
Biological females have multiple organ redundancies. Rather like Klingons. There are so fukkin many spleens in here...
I wonder how the people who made that transphobic video are going to feel when they learn that biological sex is also a social construct, not an inherent self-evident fact
They won't learn about it, and even if they do they'll refuse to believe it and will not change their minds
That's what science says but they don't believe in science, they have religion. Their religion says women must submit to men. They have to believe women are inherently separate and inferior in order to justify their exploitation.
The Greek philosophers, such as Aristotle, believed some people were just born "natural slaves". There was pseudoscience and religious claims about "the curse of Ham" in the 18th and 19th century to justify enslaving Black people. Today, Twitter is still full of pseudoscience and preachers and university commencement speakers still preach about how women are fundamentally different and naturally inferior to justify exploitation of women in the home and discrimination against women in the workplace.
If people realized there was no inherent natural differences between races, genders, classes, etc. they would have a hard time trying to justify why they should be treated as superior to other people. Their worldview depends on not understanding human fetal development.
They are operating on the other plane of thinking. I once suggested to a Christian that dictionary definitions were not objective, innate fact of reality and they got outraged.
All foetuses start female, therefore I'm just a de-transitioner. XD
I'm just a really REALLY late developer
How is drags reading stories to kids bad??
would have loved to have a colorful and fun looking, pretty person to read to me when I was a kid
Yep, like it's just dress up to the kids at that age (yes, I know drag has a deeper history, but little kids just see "fun colorful costumes"). I went to clown, zoo, and princess story times as a kid.
As a biologist I always have a good time debunking transphobes who say these things because their last bio class was like 9th grade
I think it's always funny when bigots try to use something they don't understand against a minority and then someone who really understand that topic, wipes the floor with them.
Sad part is, if there are some stray souls that should know the topic because of their profession but still end up on the bigotry side. We have a marine biologist in Germany who tries to argue there are only two sexes and trans people aren't real...
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@@imsorryiusedtobecringeread my description
OMG IM A BIG FAN OF YOU I CANT BELIVE YOU WATCH JAMIE TOO
And happy Pride to you too.
What the AI+?
Trying to learn the community *
You’re a stronger person than me Jamie - I find the videos released by transphobes and the trans-ignorant depressing at best and sickening at worst. Especially when they misrepresent the results of scientific studies they clearly don’t understand.
Thanks for wading through the s**t on our behalf, I hope it doesn’t affect you. ❤
I knew in middle school that puberty really, really SUCKED. I knew in high school that I would be happier as a guy. I tried therapy and hormone treatments (the wrong kind) in college, and STILL haven't gotten transgender affirming care. In the U.S. I can't afford it, and have finally gotten a full-time job. I haven't socially transitioned either, as my parents and brother are fairly conservative. NOBODY ever told me anything about transgender as a child, so I was not "indoctrinated".
Yep. I literally called puberty torture as a kid, got laughed at by basically everyone in my life, and I still have people telling me my parents forced this on me. My mother has spent the last 8 years pretending I never came out, like that the conversation never happened and it's a figment of my imagination. I didn't even know trans people existed till I was 16.
I do find it funny when people say "Men and women are different." Because, like, yes, but men and men are also different 😂
Yep. Also like, between two random women, two random men, and a random man and woman, the man and woman are statistically most likely to be the most similar. So it's pointless.
@@user-cm6lg5eo9x Yes, some people are taller and stronger than some other people 🙃
@@user-cm6lg5eo9x The use of the word “generally” just makes your entire point… well, “pointless”. Some people are bigger than other people 🤷🏽♂️
@@user-cm6lg5eo9x No it doesn't. "Generally" means "in most cases; usually". But, yes, people who are stronger are indeed "generally" stronger. 🙂
@@user-cm6lg5eo9x Generally: in most cases; usually. (Oxford English Dictionary)
Statistically: according to or by means of statistics. (Oxford English Dictionary)
There are differences between people. I am one of 4 brothers (all biological males) and we all have "differences".
In a race, the fastest person wins. In a high jump, the highest jumper wins. You want to create a category for "the fastest runner in the slower group"? Ok.
Actually, this is quite a funny notion, because a friend of mine who lives in Malaysia recently won a "woman's chess contest". Because in Malaysia they believe that men and women have different mental capacities. I think its an interesting parallel.
I don't know what Infographics ripoff this is but they better stop before I'M the transgender threat😭😭😭
This guy sounds like AI Ben Shapiro if he worked for PreagerU.
I thought literally the same thing. I was like, did Ben Shapiro get facial-reconstructive surgery, or did Brett Cooper transition?
@@rosieg6989Cloned. I think they have a hidden underground lab somewhere.
@@rosieg6989 Brett Cooper is literally just female Ben Shapiro lmao
34:14 The *whole point* of gender affirming care is *helping trans people accept their physical bodies*
The funny thing about his age example is that, yes, you absolutely CAN identify as a different age. Some societies count your age starting at 1, some at zero. People say all the time, “I’ve had to grow up so fast I’m basically mentally 30”. Context matters. Besides, if he wants to identify as 80, go for it. That doesn’t mean you’re going to draw social security though, because that’s measured based on the objective view of your chronological age, not your identity.
my twin and I saw a ad of an organisation where the ad told us that if trans peopel out as trans a lot of other peopel will out as trans too. In the description of the ad where no source and the comments where asking if this is a joke but it wasen‘t it was sadly hate ( sorry for my bad english i am from germany and the ad is german too. My englisch is hopefully good enaugh so you can understand what is written)
I think I get what you’re saying. They aren’t wrong that being trans can help others feel more comfortable coming out. Likely they were doing the “turning the kids trans” talking point which is incorrect. Yeah we wish it was a joke too
@@Panguinolucy yes, it helps with the outing as trans if there is an outet trans person but the ad said that allmost all peopel will out as trans
@@Knoblauchbrot36 oh… yeah that’s just fearmongering then
I'm from Germany as well and thankfully I haven't seen the ad yet...
urgh
do you remember which organization it was?
@@SirMaddaMMetzo yes, it was Demo für alle
First off, Happy Pride everyone🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Second, I 100% agree that gender affirming care is necessary.
I am way happier and healthier after starting hormones and getting care.
I’m happy 4 u!! :D happy pride ❤
They leave out Intersex like we don’t exist.
Describing intersex differences as "disorders" is also disgusting and wrong. It's just another way for people to be, that's all.
I'm able to debunk most of the stuff said in the video before Jamie, I think I'm levelling up as a trans person!
level 2 reached: transphobia-countering unlocked!
That's one of the first things I did after coming out. I did tons of reading on the actual scientific literature on trans related topics, and learned how to debunk anti-trans claims. You could say it's one of my special interests.
After conception, 2 heterozygotic twin embryos can merge, causing a chimera. It's rare, but it's non-zero.
Also, if life begins as conception and monozygotic twins don't split for a couple days, then do both me and my sister only count as one person? One of us should be exempt from be exempt from taxes lol
If it is a female and male zygotic it will end up as the condition known as 46xy/46xx. Rare and it just waiting which side will be more prevalent. Also totally possible that the outsides and insides don’t match
My reading when I looked into this when I learned of the abortion "debate" is that life does not begin until the embryo embeds on the womb, forming a fetus.
Otherwise allowing an embryo to develop without splitting doubles the number of "potential humans" you are killing with every cell division.
So in the 9 days it takes an embryo to implant: you are "killing" 12,000 "potential humans".
Regarding Jamie's speech about religion, I'd like to add a relevant name: James Lindsay. He's an atheist who pushes transphobia, and he is very aware that his audience is full of the same people who believed the Satanic Panic.
Richard Dawkins also pushes transphobia. Atheists can be just as transphobic as religious people; they just use different reasons to justify it.
People are always saying "use your assigned at birth bathroom" but I'd be more concerned to see a trans man in the girls bathroom versus a trans woman in the girls bathroom
Yep, like they are refusing to see that forcing people to use the bathroom of their assigned sex will force big buff men with beards and penises into the women's bathroom. I don't think they want that.
May I ask why?
@@judithpetree6329 because I'd be a bit surprised to see a man with a full beard in the woman's bathroom
@@judithpetree6329 you're wondering why someone would be more concerned about a man in the women's bathroom than a woman in the women's bathroom?
@@waffles3629, because a "transman" is still a woman, and a "transwoman" is still a man.
Transgender threat? Oh no, people becoming happy and content in the gender they weren't born as. I just don't get it really, what's the issue with really? I'm a cisman and I don't care about if someone is cis/trans/non-binary/..., I only care about how people act and nothing more. Though I do sympathise with the struggles a lot of people in the LGBTQIA+ community face, to those struggling, much love to you all
If only more people were like you ❤
5:39 actually, at the start of the conception process for most vertebrates, the body is female. Hormones to make the body male show up later in the fetal stage.
They aren't ready for the fact that the measurement of age is also a cultural phenomenon. There's the "your age is the amount of calendar years you've been alive" system from East Asia, for example, which was only fully legally phased out in South Korea in 2023. Age and sex are systems for measuring real things, but what we measure, how we measure it, and what we do with the measurement are cultural, and change over time.