Im a cis woman who socially transitioned in 2017. I cut my hair, started wearing only mens clothes, went by a new name and pronouns and wore a binder too. I went to gender therapy to ultimately just figure out the right medical transition route for me. I live in BC Canada, where its all covered. I realized through therapy that I was having identity issues due to alot of other things. The gender dysphoria was coming from trauma, autism, bpd and body dysmorphia. I did a few more sessions with the gender therapist and then did DBT and trauma counselling. I am actually the most feminine Ive ever been. And thats because gender therapy and access to these services is GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. It helped me, a cis woman, figure things out And that to me, is just an example of why gender therapy and trans health care SHOULD be accessible everywhere. Unfortunately, the transphobia and anti trans youth movement has exploded here in Canada too and people are protesting even in my own town. I detransitioned and found myself as an autistic bisexual cis woman. And it made me want to advocate for trans rights even harder.
That's right! People often miss the meaning of words " therapy" and "care". Like investigation, the process can have different results. The purpose is not to make everyone transition or to prevent everyone from transitioning. The purpose is every patient's health and happiness.
The first TikTok is a classic queer joke tho. Saying "ugh, I hate that i look so gay" ironically, is peak queer culture. The other two people in that TikTok not getting it just shows that they are not familiar with the culture and it's jokes.
This just reminded me of a joke a few years back - I'm openly queer and have been for ages, one of the coworkers asked me to hang things up and when she checked asked for me to "make sure they were straight". I said "you're asking the least straight person to judge straightness" and we both had a laugh about it
There's a lady, Lucy Kartikasari from the Netherlands(?) who labels herself as "detransgender." Assigned female at birth, she medically transitioned including top surgery and HRT. Then after about a decade she transitioned back to being a woman. And she is hugely supportive of the trans community. She says she regrets almost nothing of her choices. She uses the term "detransgender" versus "detransitioner" because de-transgender can be read as "from transgender." She sees having identified as transgender as a valid part of her ongoing journey as a person. It's really lovely to hear about people from the detrans community who arent anti-trans. Which is the vast majority. Anti-trans detransitioners are rare but given an outsized platform.
@@advanceringnewholderI looked her up on TikTok, she has both the Dutch and the Indonesian flag in her bio as well as the Australian one. She might have been born in the Netherlands and has Indonesian roots and now lives in Australia or has a Dutch parent.
@@advanceringnewholder Considering that the Netherlands colonized Indonesia at some point (and my own Indonesian heritage) it's really likely she just has Indonesian heritage or is Indonesian living in the NL.
@@merilynnshark6144 I'm sure It's dependant on country just like for trans people, but definitely there are challenges. From what I've heard even less support than for trans folk. Medical professionals I think become a bit leery of the idea of someone wanting medical intervention then changing their mind and wanting further intervention to reverse it. But in the end, whether transition or detransition it's gender affirming care and deserves to be taken seriously.
As a cisgender woman who had endometriosis, a hysterectomy, and never wanted kids anyway, I find it incredibly angering when people reduce me to my sex parts. Especially people who claim to be feminist.
Yep, I'm a demiguy and no endo (much to both my doctor and I's shock), but I've also had a hysterectomy and OMG the gross stuff I've been told. And the fact that even saying something like "I finally evicted my bastard uterus, good riddance" gets met with "I'm so sorry you lost your uterus", and "Don't worry, your life isn't totally over".
@@waffles3629 Yup. Like, my uterus was awful. I hated it so much. It brought me nothing but pain and misery. I basically couldn't function as an adult until it was removed. I had no regrets at all in removing, only relief and happiness in finally finding a doctor willing to do it.
@@dragonofmordor I had a hysterectomy because I had cancer. I was so happy to get it removed. It was probably worth having cancer to get rid of it. I could possibly still be having periods to this day if it was still in me. It was such a relief to not have them any more. It's been over 11 years since I got it out.
@@makeinubakaI got a hysterectomy because my uterus was trying to kill me, too. The surgeon actually asked if I was sure because I might want kids later and regret it. (I'd already told her I was asexual and child free by choice.) I looked her in the eyes and told her, "If I want kids, at least I'll be alive to adopt."
God, I feel you on being reduced to sex parts, though I am speaking from a different perspective as a trans guy who still has their uterus. It's honestly a poor way to understand someone's gender alone when the human body is not so binary as people like to think it is, and that's ignoring how objectifying it is when you just rely on body parts.
"i hate that they're right" CLEARLY means "i'm somewhat embarrassed that my look is so stereotypically non-binary that a total stranger can correctly guess my pronouns before i've spoken a single word." obviously they don't want to be misgendered, but it's that kind of feeling like when someone sees my fat white lady ass and goes "can i offer you a pumpkin spice latte?" ...yes, yes you can but it's a little awkward that i can be read so easily >.>;;
love candace jumping from "you have to be born with a uterus to have a baby" (true) to "only women can get pregnant." she entirely skips the question of "does a uterus make someone a woman? does the ability to get pregnant make someone a woman?" yes, you have to be born with a uterus to get pregnant. some people who are born with a uterus turn out to be men. some people who are born with a uterus can't ever get pregnant. some people who, chromosomally and hormonally and psychologically, would be identified as a woman were NOT born with a uterus.
I just got wilderness first aid certified. Part of our training was that people need to consent, for kids their parent or guardian provides consent for them. If kids cannot have medical intervention and gender affirming care because they “can’t consent” I also can’t pack your kids deep cut in the woods, they’re gonna die. I wish people would just see how deeply LGBTQ+ identity issues can affect kids when they don’t feel like they are in a safe place to come out. Gender affirming care is lifesaving care, maybe not as imminently as bleeding out in the woods, but trans kids still need support and care and medical treatments as determined necessary by someone able to make that call.
@@grawrisher exactly. There are plenty of things that kids "can't consent to" that are done regardless because it's necessary, for their benefit, etc. If a 12 year old cis boy can get top surgery for gynecomastia, a 12 year old trans boy should be able to choose blockers.
It’s wild how many people think trans folks are asking others to call them any a certain name or pronoun. Like, I’m not asking you for anything, I’m informing you of what my gender and name is, you can choose not to use it but then you’ll simply be incorrect?
As long as you pass as the gender you identify and not going by they/them or any other pronouns outside of she/her and he/him, you shouldn't have any problems in general
I've had transphobes refuse to use my name until I give them my "real name". Aka my birth name, aka the name I go by. They are asking for the name I told them. Often while aggressively "misgendering" me with the pronouns I just said.
Hey, just in case anybody wants or needs to hear some good news: Germany has just passed a law that allows anybody to easily change their legal gender into their prefered gender (options: male, female, diverse) without any tests or anything. It's called the law on self-determination with regard to gender registration or just self-determination law.
I Jewish. My favorite example of more than two genders is the 8 genders in the Talmud. My Jewish Learning has a great article on it. Here is an example from the article that applies to me as a trans woman. "Saris adam, identified male at birth and later developing female characteristics through human intervention." Yep, centuries ago Rabbis understood that there are male assigned people who medically transition. There is also the term "Aylonit adam" for female assigned people who medically transition. And they include categories that can apply to nonbinary and intersex folks. "Androgynos, having both male and female characteristics. Tumtum, lacking sexual characteristics."
Misgendering a cis person: "Can you please not do that?" "Oh yeah sure thing." Misgendering a trans person: "Can you please not do that?" "I have as much right as I want to call you what I want!"
If I ran into an airport and screamed, "I have a 💣" I would be arrested. Those would be the consequences of my choices. I'm totally free to say/do that, no one is technically stopping me. I'm just aware that certain things have consequences because I have a functioning brain.
The saddest thing is, I'm aware of at least one person with Tourette's that has coprolalia and literally shouted that out at an airport. Thankfully they phoned up to warn them beforehand, but it must have been so scary (I think they were a teenager at the time).
@@mrseaweed88I completely understand the analogy, however yelling 💣 or 🔥 in a public space is actually not protected by the first amendment. They’re one of the few exceptions as inciting panic when there is no threat is punishable by law. I think FAFO applies better. Sure you CAN say some horribly deplorable sh*t to someone but that’s doesn’t mean they’ll refrain from returning the favor at some capacity (like exposing what you said to your boss, for example)
@@CashhhhewI agree, but Jamie made it out that the government can arrest you, which it can’t. Sure people can protest, boycott, but unless you invite a panic or threaten violence, the US government will not intervene. Other countries are def more strict, like Scotland, Canada is also pretty restrictive when it comes to free speech.
"Free speech" doesn't protect defamatory speech, harassment and slander. If a publication slanders someone (knowingly distributes false information about someone), that someone can sue. I'd argue that calling a trans woman "a man" and INSIST on using he/him pronouns for her is not just slander, but harassment that seeks to cause distress. It's tricky though, culture at large has to reach critical mass of understanding this before a legal precedent can be set.
6:11. Even when we DO provide them with receipts of JKR being transphobic, they will still come back with “she never said that” or “how is that transphobic”. It’s because to them “transphobia” doesn’t exist because trans people don’t exist. It’s the whole “Telling the truth isn’t transphobic” BS that they spout on a daily basis. Also I agree Jamie. I used to LOVE HP. I even tried the “separate the art from the artist” thing but I just can’t. Every time I look at anything HP I just see all the horrible things she has done to hurt people I love.
I am 42 and I decided to avoid pregnancy by abstaining from sex because I'm physically disabled and cannot take care of a child. I am just now taking care of myself. Candace is saying not getting pregnant makes me less of a woman. Now I don't like her. Big L
@@Him_He_Me the only thing that bothered me is how she implied a woman is not a woman until she concieves and gives birth to a child, like all women should reproduce or they're not women. Can you imagine how many people there would be on earth if every single person was fertile and straight? Like 20 billion people.
People have very good reasons for not wanting to have kids. Simply not wanting them is as valid as any other reason. Your identity should not be dependent on whether you produce offspring or not.
I saw a clip of Allison Bailey of the so-called LGB Alliance talking about how "young girls [I.e. boys] are removing their breasts that have never felt a lover's caress." It's implying that the purpose of breasts is for a lover to "caress", which is not just scientifically wrong, but also very much not feminist. This thought most certainly stems from internalized misogyny.
@@LoremIpsum-dp1li there happens to be a widespread misunderstanding with regard to that quote. If memory serves, it is the opinion/quote of someone interviewing Allison Bailey. That said, my memory also tells me it was a print article (though this same interview could exist in both video and print).
Even saying that a woman is an "adult human female" is not correct, as it does not cover all edge cases. For example, how many adults are there on the average Women's Gymnastics team at the Olympics?
There's women born without a uteris, or they never grow bubbas, who grow facial hair, can't have children, ... (There's been womb transplants on the women born without one: 90 succesful ones, with 50 succesful, healthy births! This is a huge step for science, and infertile women would be able to have children much easyer too in the future. Or even trans women?...)
My thing about "sepereting the art from the artist" in regard to JK Rowling. You can see her sexist views in her writing. Hermione and Luna is just to troll woman. They laugh at Hermione for wanting to free the elves from slavery. The transphobia isnt in the writing but there's enough other repulsive shit that you just can't avoid. I won't even get started on the racism elements too.
There's so much woman bashing in Harry Potter! I didn't see it in Hermione and Luna, I quite like them but there's a lot of making fun of girly girls in the books. Like making fun of lavender for her giggling and boy-craziness or Cho for crying all the time. Also, there are evil characters portrayed as manly like Rita Skeeter
@emily79519 I quite like Luna myself. But if you look at the way she was written it felt like a parody of stoner hippies in an oddly sexist way. Hermione felt like a huge joke of liberal woman fighting for rights and wanting to be well read and educated. Again. They all made fun of her for wanting to free elves from slavery which is not funny???
Whenever people bring up the "buT It'S FReE SpeECH!!!" argument, I think of this line from an xkcd comic: "I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express."
I am a huge free speech supporter. I am a Jew and will defend the free speech rights of Neo Nazis. But I will also denounce their views. You can support someone's right to express their views while strongly condemning those views.
You have the right to say bigoted things, but I also have the right to tell you to shut the fuck up. Also, you don't have the right to do whatever you want. If you're causing harm that's not free speech.
@@jennoscura2381 exactly! Unless it's a law to talk about a certain subject ever, you have free speech to talk about it! Even if it's socially unnaceptable, you're still not going to prison :) Maybe to the hospital though if you're particularly annoying though
@@jennoscura2381 i feel like that gets into the tolerance paradox, whereby being tolerant of intolerant views allows those intolerant views to spread and recruit more intolerant people and silence by intimidation the people those intolerant views are targeting. so it is because i denounce the views of neo-nazis and any views which would advocate for the extermination of a group of people that i will NOT defend the "free speech rights" of those people. besides, we already have laws limiting free speech when it is a public health and safety threat: you can't yell FIRE in a crowded theater, you can't make terroristic threats, you can't make death threats against ANYONE... there's actually a lot of limitations and rightly so. "free speech" basically just means the secret service can't throw you in prison for saying donald trump sucks donkey dick.
The thing about those parents who say things like “my baby is a boy and nothing will change that.” The slightest gender nonconformity and the parents will be bombarding them with “you’re a boy, you know.” And things like this, believe me, I know.
I have a trans uncle and I myself am trans. My mom always says “but they will always be my sister” and when she misgenders me she uses the excuse “Im old and my mind is set in its ways.”
@@xBloodxFangx Air horn at the dinner table each time she gets it wrong. Either that, or you start having candid conversations about early onset dementia and how are concerned about the way she seems to struggle so much with change in her everyday life. Stress that you love her and she will always be your mom, but there are spezialized care homes where her needs could be properly met. Get some flyers.
@@WantedVisualchaotic good spotted, that's a good idea though... But one I doubt I'll ever get the chance to try out myself since it turned out that most of my family on my mother's side are either LGBT+ or allies. On the other side though... They're all allergic to communication and family ties so I think I'm safe there, they don't need to know what I'm up to since the only one who's shown any interest in communication I've actively blicked as he unfortunately just wants to continue actively causing harm- and he's very likely unaware that I'm trans since I only told family who also hate him for his actions. Man, people like that are tiring though, so much wasted energy on their part
the detransitioners falling into the transphobe pipeline are what saddens me the most. By falling ito that pipeline they have only ensured they'll be more isolated and alone by shunning away people who might have understood and sympathetised with them, and are causing people to have a negative view of detransitioners in general. So many have become convinced that any complications or problems they faced are universal and are now actively hurting trans people and being outright cruel in their fight to 'save' people from ebing trans, and they jsut cannot see what they've become or what they're doing in the process.
All trans women are women, but not all women are trans women. Just like how cake is dessert, but not all dessert is cake. The existence of trans women does not diminish cis women's existence, at least I don't feel diminished and I'm friends with several trans women XD Also, as someone who studied biology, I really hate it when people conflate sex, gender and sexuality. They're three different things.
I’m a couple weeks away from having my Bachelor’s in women’s and gender studies. I find it frustrating and sad with the sex/gender/sexuality thing. I wish more people would recognize they are completely different, but related, things
Trans-women are biologically male, and Trans-men are biologically female. Women are biologically female, and Men are biologically male. So no, Trans-women are not women, and Trans-men are not men. It's just reality.
I think it’s so funny when they say “it’s basic biology” like damn you only did basic biology no wonder your confused it’s advanced biology when they go into he fact that gender is literally biologically a spectrum, it’s controlled by multiple different chromosomes that don’t always match up and your gender and/or sex are decided by the different combinations of those chromosomes. That’s why it’s actually not that uncommon for someone to XX and have fully male anatomy or be XY and have fully female anatomy. It’s almost like the human body has the capacity to be grow into any gender so trying to make it black and white doesn’t work
if people have so much trouble with the latin prefixes cis and trans, let's use greek! people who's gender is different from assigned at birth are heterogender and people who's gender is the same as assigned at birth are homogender! that'll fix all the troubles!
Nooo, they don't have a problem with the terms themselvs, they have a problem with what it implies, that it's a possibility that people can be a gender that isnt their assumed gender at birth, so they take away those words so you can't categorise it
17:16 this is actually considered a hate crime in Canada! To actively harrass and purposely misgender someone is considered a hate crime in Canada as it would be covered by our laws. Simply misgendering someone by accident wouldn't but if someone was harassing Dylan here because of her identity by misgendering her, it's a crime.
This is EXACTLY what transphobes don't seem to be able to comprehend. If you misgender someone the first time by accident (either because they look kind of 'ambiguous' in that sense or you just don't pick up the clues for whatever reason) most of the time you're not going to get any pushback for it, maybe just a correction and perhaps a polite request to use the correct term in future. Which, if you're a respectful person with *actual manners,* is not a difficult thing to do - we're taught politeness and consideration for others as *little kids,* and most *little kids* can manage to both grasp the concept and act on the knowledge learned. But if you're *repeatedly* misgendering someone, even after being asked not to do so, THAT IS A CHOICE YOU ARE MAKING. You're not receiving pushback for something that's completely out of your control - *you are repeatedly putting thought and effort into doing the thing that is getting you pushback.* You are that idiot repeatedly standing on the rake and then getting annoyed when that rake smashes you in the face, instead of - y'know, *not standing on the rake.* You CHOOSE to be that idiot, the world will TREAT you like that idiot, it's not rocket science!
Fun fact: the regret rates of trans surgeries are lower than the regret rates of HEART SURGERY. Not sure why people still treat it like it’s some kind of super common issue of people regretting it
@@catalyst3713That's so funny because I thought your comment was talking about transphobes being truthphobes and crybullies. It would have made more sense that way, but alas, the world is not so sensible.
@manikmykie Is calling people transphobes disrespectful? How about demanding others affirm delusion? How about allowing males to invade women's spaces? How about indoctrinating, mutilating and permanently destroying the sexual function of kids for a condition that over 90% will literally grow out of? You're right I'm not the victim here, you and people like you are, to an ideology that clearly doesn't have your best interest. Only the interests of pharmaceutical companies who wish to exploit you. I don't need to identify with any community to speak the truth as I see fit, and I don't need your approval to be here.
I think Jaime missed a massive laps in logic in that last video, the story was about a trans person who "identified as a girl from a young age and never wavered or contradicted herself." And the parent was like "yes this is a long running thing I will respect you child and your knowledge of yourself" the anti-trans guy immediately attacked hormones and their supposed use on young kids, when neither hormones, nor giving them to children were ever mentioned. Man literally changed the story so he could make a very supportive dad for his trans kid sound like a bad thing
I REALLY wish that supportive dad had just responded with "What the hell are you talking about, dumbass? That child ISN'T 'getting hormones' - THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. She'll get puberty blockers when she hits puberty, but she won't be getting any hormones 'added' until she's eighteen. If you don't know what you're talking about, DO THE RESEARCH - don't just make a bunch of shit up to fake people into getting mad."
32:38 Not sure if you are saying that later, Jamie doesn't re-mention it? But time stamp I saw your comment just as I was getting to that part of the video.). Jamie does address here that Rogen mentioned hormones, but that Adam Conover never mentioned hormones were given.
The detransers are ridiculous... it's like someone who has an allergy to tylenol going on a rampage on everyone elses page with "Hey... I took tylenol too and didn't think I'd regret it but then I did... so it's dangerous to deal with that headache. Why can't you just accept your headache you were born with and why are we pushing this idea of treating headaches on children?"
What drives me most crazy is that these people intentionally misunderstand the entire topic of being trans and then act like they are experts. While actual trans people who are experiencing this in real time, firsthand are ignored and told we don't have a right to say anything. It's madness.
Never forget Candice went to the Ben Shapiro school of debate which is simply throw out as many words as you can so your opponent who more than likely doesn't not naturally talk that fast can't get a word in
Any time I realize someone isn't going to let me get a word in edgewise I pull out my phone. Tells them they aren't worth my time as well as just lets me ignore them.
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 So you agree that trans women should reject being called a man and trans men should reject being called a woman. Great! Thanks for your understanding. 😇
‘iTs UnNaTuRaL’ coughs in 8 genders of the talmud, sekhet ancient Egyptian gender, the Hijra people of the Indian subcontinent, the priestesses of inanna, the priests of the Eurasian scythians, the māhū of indigenous Polynesia, sistergirls and brotherboys in indigenous Australian nations, the priestesses of Dionysus, two spirit people in indigenous nations of turtle island, the eunuchs described to have frequented the Ptolemaic courts, the mudoko dako of modern day Uganda, the jinbaanda of central Africa… I think the only place we’re missing is the coloniser nations of western europe. Hm. Weird.
When the British showed up they made the hijra illegal when they occupied India. There's also the Muxes of Latin America which were persecuted under the Spanish. You have the mahu from Hawai'i which much like the rest of the native island life suffered under control from the US. You and I both understand what these people do not want to face which is the fact that the concept of a heteronormative two gender society is a product of Western colonialism from a strictly puritanical society with heavily enforced gender roles. The kind of gender roles that had women burned at the stake for wearing pants
transphobes will seriously get enraged over and look wayyy too deep into an obvious joke but then insist that we are the sensitive and misguided ones 😭
A good chunk of the US has a weird obsession with free speech. Like, they don't seem to remember that slander and truth in advertising laws also limit free speech. Free speech without limits leads to politicians and corporations being allowed to lie wildly without consequence.
As my math teacher said, "You can do anything you want. You can say anything you want. Just don't expect there will be no consequences for what you say and do."
xkcd once made a comic about how free speech does not mean others have to tolerate your views, and in the title text, Randall talks about how he once heard someone say that defending your position with "free speech" is really the ultimate concession since it's saying that the best thing you can say about your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
And the thing is that Freedom of Speech just means that a government can't prosecute you for your opinions. But as a person technically you could sue anyone for slander or libel, it doesn't guarantee you'll win, but you can.
i used to be transmedicalist and a bit nb-phobic (believing in "trans-trenders"), till one day it just clicked in my mind. Like why the fuck do i care what other people do, im a transgender man, their are so many cis people that wouldnt respect my identity and who i am. Why would i do the same thing to people that have it even worse bc they dont fit in the binary ? (since then ive worked a lot on many of my bigotries and how its just best that everyone can be who they are) Like how much free rental space do we take in those transphobic people ? meanwhile we're just trying to live "normal lives"
I grew up with homophobia and transphobia so I was a bit of a bigot for a time. Glad to have learned to be chill through my move :) I’m Pan/Ace NB now so, kinda funny.
Odin carved the first man from an oak and the first woman from an ash. There are as many genders as there are trees and each person makes up the beauty of the forest
@@sheersternfeld1914 I think genderfaun. That's gender fluidity that more encompasses masculine genders. Genderfae more encompasses feminine genders. I'm genderflor myself, which is agender genderfluid.
Also, having the cis man argue in favor of transmen being real men even if they have babies actually makes me really happy because of my prior experiences with cis men.
I don't get the extreme reaction to hormone blockers. Like, we're totally cool with giving them to kids when they have medical issues where they need them. hormone blockers don't transition someone. They just pause things until they are old enough to make decisions without being forced to go through things that might be extremely traumatic for them. TBH, I'm not trans, but as someone who due to medical issues found hormones incredibly traumatic right from the start, I would have loved to have access to hormone blockers.
My cis female cousin had puberty blockers when she was younger, because her parents hoped she would grow taller before puberty stops her bone growth. I don't know if the wanted effect was ever achieved, but she is a happy mother of two children nowadays. No ill effects. Just a little extra time to grow.
The reality is that they aren't against puberty blockers. They are against any level of gender non-conformity. So they are against youth expressing as the opposite sex, changing names and pronouns, and puberty blockers. There is no "acceptable" gender non-conformity. The closest they come is telling trans youth to just me a "feminine boy" or a "masculine girl." But that is _only_ said to trans kids. Cis youth who are gender non-conforming are told to be more traditional. The goal posts for queer people are always one yard backwards from wherever they currently are. And those goal posts will keep moving backwards and until they hit cishet normative traditional gender roles.
Puberty blockers have also been used for decades in cases of precocious puberty. Imagine being 7 years old and developing breasts, or starting to menstruate. Haven't heard of any long-term negative side effects of the use of these medications.
That is a different scenario. With gender dysphoric kids, puberty blockers is stopping their natural puberty from developing. Ex. Doctor gives PB for a 13 year old and the 13 year stops puberty blockers stops at 16, at that point they can't reverse time and get back 3 years worth of missed puberty.
@@cole5669thats not how it works. It's not like you can only undergo puberty during a set few years (thus missing out on 3 years of puberty due to being on blockers for 3 years.) Puberty will simply resume upon coming off blockers and will still go for just as long. The process simply starts later.
@@ILuvMoogles I've never heard of that and even if that's the case, puberty is essential for physical and mental development, so it's best to be left alone.
New assignment for them I guess Edit: my firat reply seems to have disappeared. The 'them' I was referring to were the Naval division of the Locibarpulan Lancers, who I was already planning to send over to Terf Island for otger reasons
She is correct, many great artist in history were racist, sexist, anti-semetic, etc, but because they are dead they do not profit off of our enjoyment of their work. JKR is still alive and does financially benefit from us using her products, and she recently used 70 000 pounds of that profit to continue to harm trans people.
I think it also depends on the creation/art form. Edit: Such as how much of their ideology goes into the artform and whether they're gaining influence or funds from it.
"If gender is a spectrum, why do we have to try to change anything? Why can't you just be you?" Because while gender is a spectrum, not all gender identities are. They are typically a specific space on that spectrum, and in order to 'be me', I would have to change things, because the body I was born in does not represent the 'me' I feel I am. Gender being a spectrum does not mean any particular person would feel comfortable on any point in that spectrum or presenting like it; for me personally, although I am nonbinary, I am also a demiboy, and would not be comfortable or identify with presenting anywhere on the feminine side of the spectrum. Something being fluid / flexible =/= inherently devoid of meaning or definition.
That "these are facts" lady just wanted to get that out of her system. She's rapidly insisting that she's correct and doesn't need a reason, it's just facts. The dude was just a target to release it onto.
Yea. I am a post op trans woman. For me trans only really comes up when it's time to inject my estrogen. Otherwise, for the most part I am just living my life. I am an observant Jew. Judaism occupies my bain for more than being trans. Especially since Passover is tomorrow.
@jennoscura2381 my step brother is gay and Jewish and I think it's the same for him too. He'll be celebrating Passover with his mom and her family tomorrow
Yep, they really do act like we spend all day thinking "I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans". Yeah, I'm actually just trying to decide what kind of waffles I want.
I hated being called cisgender, and that made me feel like an asshole. I later figured out why I hated it when I finally realized that I was trans. I was internally so frustrated with my gender identity that it must have reminded me of what I was not. I spent so much of my life lying to myself about anything LGBTQIA+. Now I am finally out as a bisexual transman, and I finally feel comfortable.
I am a trans woman and I have taken HRT for more than 13 years. Ok it's not 20 years like the person in one of the video, but it's a long time anyway. I have never regretted transitionning, not even once. This person needs to understand that her bad experience doesn't mean transition is bad. I was a teenager when I started transitionning and I would have greatly benefited from puberty blocker, but they weren't accessible in my time. Yes, teenagers can know if they are trans or not. Yes, I was already in touch with a psychiatrist and an endocrinologist that allowed me to start hormones as soon as I turned 18 (the legal age at the time in my country, I don't know about nowadays). And I have never regretted it. Also the person said that nowadays society has accepted trans people. Well I don't know about USA (I mean I see the news, it looks awful...), but I can say for France that it is totally wrong. People were much more acceptant when I started, in the early 2010. They were curious, clumsy, but generally well-meaning. There was transphobia, of course, and I faced it on some occasion, but it is much, much worse nowadays. Now it has become a political issue, and people have a political opinion on it, regardless of what the science says, regardless of what trans people live and experience. People who have never seen a trans person have an opinion on our right to exist. For like 10 years, I didn't feel the need to say that I'm trans, to talk to other trans people and so on. Now, the evolution of society on trans issues scares me so much that I feel the need to go to trans group and exchance with other trans people. In the 2010, it was much more easier. It was harder on a medical perspective, but easier on a societal perspective, really.
I never understand why anything that's reduces gender dysphoria is bad *hiss* but things like plastic surgery for body dysmorphia/dysphoria is "normal"; Boob jobs are normal, nose jobs are normal, BBLs are normal, but woe upon the world if a teen were to get puberty blockers.....
"Only women can get pregnant"... Darn, I'd hate to be a vet dealing with all those different species of animals and only being able to call them "woman". 🙄
Bro they’re gonna hate when they find out the oldest book we have evidence of explicitly described trans people… shout out to the priestess of that ancient Mesopotamian goddess (Inanna) who pretty much invented signing off books with an author and also said “To turn a man into a woman and a woman into a man are yours, Inanna” This continues with Ishtar, a similar Sumerian deity.
The guy complaining about free speech and saying that Dylan Mulvaney should be okay with being misgendered is forgetting that there are exceptions to free speech, namely slander, libel, and defamation. I can't wait until we get to a point where trans people can sue bigots for defamation if they continuously publish articles misgendering trans people. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not totally versed on how all of this works, but I know in New York, it's at least classified as hate speech.
People who say others should be okay with being misgendered should be misgendered right back, even called the wrong name; see how long before they complain.
Germany's new trans law has this as a clause. Willfully misgendering someone who (the accused suspects) has legally changed their name and gender can be fined up to €10.000 starting this November.
@Vahlee-A It’s not a perfect solution, but maybe balled up socks could work? I know that I am probably far from the first person to say this but it might help.
Supporting the art without supporting the artist becomes a little bit more complicated when some of the actors loudly become allies against the autor's transphobia.
luckily, transphobia in general has gone down a lot, however the transphobes are just becoming louder and louder because they're with less people and are actively trying to find other transphobes now. My brother used to be kinda transphobic and homophobic but now he's actively referring to me as his sister (for context: I'm a trans woman) so yes, slowly transphobes are lessening in numbers
hi, trans person here who uses it/its/itself pronouns. i get there are people who hate those pronouns, but i know a handful of trans people who also use it/its. it's gross for people to use those pronouns to devalue the humanity of anyone
i feel like there’s a very different vibe when someone is being referred to as “it” because that’s its/one of its preferred pronouns and when someone is being referred to as “it” in an attempt to dehumanize/insult/etc.
@@SnowDragon_2204 yee, that's what I referred to at the end. I just noticed Jamie (second video mentioning transphobes calling trans people it) feels uncomfy. I completely understand, I just think he should also know that people use it/its by choice or no pronouns at all
@@theultimatenerd9825 I thought I had replied already, but here are some examples. "this is my friend, its name is ___" "it likes ___ & ___" "it said so itself"
Love from your Christian Non-Binary friend! 💚 Latest break through in my Church was the Pastor now uses some gender neutral pronouns, and I'm going to be able to chat to Bible Study leaders about how to be respectful and understanding of LGBTQIA+ identities!
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 Genesis 1:5,10. By just quoting sections like this, you'll see that it is possible to argue that God didn't make the shoreline, nor do dawn and dusk exist. God made me, and I am non binary. God loves me, and I love Him. James 3:7-9 God bless!
I think a certain hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy quote comes to mind: "why can't we all just he nice to each other for a change" I wish transphobes could understand this.
The thing is that it's not just gender that's a spectrum, sex is too. science doesn't deal in binaries. there are intersex people and people with different chromosomes and hormone levels and sex characteristics; *it is not, and has never been, a binary system.* we package these characteristics into the boxes of "male" and "female" but really, there are a thousand things in-between, and gender has nothing to do with any of them. i've heard people say before that intersex people are a miniscule percentage of the population and you shouldn't judge based on outliers, but they're roughly about as common as redheads, and we don't sit around saying the only natural hair colors are brown, blond, and black. you can argue semantics on tiktok all day long but the truth of it is that nothing, no matter how small or how cosmic, will *ever* fully fit into the labels we give them, because the world wasn't meant for that.
i have all of the harry potter books and i am trans the one thing i do that i find funny is i put a pride flag over the author name when they are on the shelf so it doesnt ruin my bedroom
I have all my Harry Potter stuff, movies, books. And I am trans. I literally grew up with it. The author is loony but Im not letting her ruin my love for Harry Potter
I did one further. I gave away all my physical copy books ages ago just to save the space and weight when moving. Her true nature was not well known then, especially not to me. But now that I know she's transgender? I certainly don't plan to buy them again, but they're still nostalgic for me. So... Arr, me hearties, let's sail the seven seas and still enjoy ye olde story without supportin' that bilgerat author!
Science has shown us that light is a spectrum. We regularly refer to degrees of autism as being on the spectrum. I think we need to realize that gender is also a spectrum and that a lot of things we have traditionally tried to classify as one thing or another are likely on a scale as well. It's going to be a long hard road for a lot of people to get to acceptance, unfortunately.
That last one is WEIRD. Does he think that people are giving HRT to 6 yr olds???? Because that isn't happening. And yes, kids have been getting puberty blockers for precocious puberty since at least the 1980s. In the late 90s/early 00s, I worked for a paediatric endocrinologist who had several patients with precocious puberty who were treated with puberty blockers. This was standard treatment. Does that guy think it's okay for a 3 year old girl to be starting puberty???
so the kids has hormone blockers so then they do hrt while they reach puberty, right? If that's the case, it makes sense why so many people get confused how trans kids work
In case anyone wants to know an easy example of "cis" outside gender issues: high school organic chem class and 8th grade bio. Trans and cis fats. Olive oil is cis, beef tallow is trans.
@@waffles3629 No, it would be woman and men and then trans men and trans women. Your reply is stating that trans women are biological women/females and they just aren't.
I love how some of these people look at trans people and go "you guys got the minimum effort you guys are fully accepted and should shut up already". Like it is normal to have legislation out there to erase your existence, for people forming organizations to hate you, to feel uncomfortable using basic facilities in person, to have to weigh your identity against how difficult things are being out and most importantly face the daily possibility of being killed. That these are just "life" and things people deal with. That we should be happy with what? Nothing? Nothing because they are all mad about like any little thing we get including the right to the basic humanization of language including using our names and pronouns. Things other people take for granted.
Also still mad. The most medically invasive thing we suggest for kids is puberty blockers which are reversible other than that when we talk about trans kids we are talking social transition and like people are purposefully conflating the two. Like oh no Suzy wants to wear a dress and play on the girl's volleyball team and is upset that she gets misgendered. This is somehow medically irreversible.
You know what I am not going to be able to watch this. I have a trans child and to me this is total strangers hating on my baby (Um, he's 26, but still my baby).
I'm a trans man who is in constant pain due to hurt, HOWEVER I'm working with my pcp to find solutions. I've become incontinent due to atrophy and it's an uncommon side effect of hormones that may not get mentioned in the beginning. So far adding in estrogen cream has been slowly improving the incontinence, but not the pain. I still do NOT regret transitioning and wouldn't change what I've done at all. I'm not living my best life yet, but the positive changes are worth the struggle
I really, really hate how many people STILL insist that male/female are genders and gender and sex are the same thing. The Stonewall Riots were in 1969 for goodness sake! We've been moving toward LGBTQIA+ acceptance and equality for almost all of my mother's life and she's old enough to be retired. I was taught about the fact that there are many, many more than 2 genders in a first year level university class in 2007. I am female but I am not a woman. These words are not synonymous. They occur together very frequently, but they do not mean the same thing.
Female and woman aren't synonymous because female also includes non-human females and girls. But since you are an adult and presumably human, you are a woman. Don't see what the Stonewall riots have to do with anything.
That 1% regret detransition rate is potentially slightly misleading depending on phrasing. It is good to point out that it is 1% of all detransitioners, not 1% of all trans people. The difference is that instead of being a fraction from a fraction, in reality it is a fraction from a fraction from a fraction. In otherwords, you need thousands and thousands of trans people before you find one who will not only detransition, but does so due to regret. Overall detransition rate would plummet with societal acceptance and I have a feeling it would also further reduce detransitions due to regret as well and not just due to societal pressure.
For medical transitioning overall of the 0.47% who detransition over 65% still identify as trans and either medically transitioning wasn't for them, they had rare health complications, ran out of money, or transphobic laws forced them to detransition, and of that 65% more then half will go on to retransition within 5 years. Olson et al., 2022 found that 97.5% of kids who socially transition still identify at trans five years later. The Lancet Journal of child and adolescent Health, Oct 20 2022, found 98% of trans teens taking hrt were still continuing their treatment five years later. Skye Davies, Stephen McIntyre, Craig Rypma, 2019, "Detransition rates in a National UK Gender Identity Clinic, found that 0.47% of people who medically transition regret doing so.
I'm going to have a hysterectomy within now and a few years. So I guess I'm not going to be a female anymore. Oh wait, I'm childless and already missing my tubes, so I guess i haven't been one for years now. Oh well 🤷♀️
HOW TO TRANSPHOBE LIKE A 'PRO': 1 - Disown your sense of humour. Seriously - get rid of it completely. It'll help you completely disregard when the LGBTQ+ community are *very obviously* joking and make your fake confusion/outrage look slightly more legit, AND it'll help you to fully embrace your own rage when you don't 'get' an LGBTQ+ joke. Oh and it'll also do wonders for making your 'humour' at the expense of LGBTQ+ people WAY more unfunny. 2 - Shun research and fact-checking of all kinds. They just get in the way of the transphobic points you're trying to make, and rolling your eyes, making stupid faces or simply saying "No, because I said so" will effectively shut any chance of reasoned debate down, provided you commit to it with the energy of a rejected X-Factor auditionee. 3 - Hold the word 'woke' close to your hate-filled heart. It will get you out of many an awkward situation - like when you find yourself in the middle of an argument you know you're crashing and burning in - just scream the word "WOKE!" at the top of your lungs, and whip out your special Transphobe Victim Card like a referee at a Milwall match. (Bonus points for following up with a dramatic flounce-off, muttering about a "woke agenda.")
5:24 “separating the art from the artist” is for artists who are dead and not making money from continued dissemination of their work, that they can then use to expand their platform from which they spew misinformation that actively harms people
look up "precocious puberty". you know what else was available over the counter in the 70's? Amphetamines. For housewives. Who would then take benzo's to sleep.
That second guy looks incredibly creepy. It's disappointing when gay men want to bash the Trans community to fit more into current society happens so often and is disappointing.
Saying that the press has the right to call you by the wrong gender or by the wrong name or say anything they want about you because of free speech ignores the fact that there are libel and slander laws in the U.S.
@@TheWerewolfOfNorway-mf5jz the irony of your username trying to be edgy about Noray when it is an incredibly inclusive country both legally and socially. PS your transphobia has no place here, please leave.
"Separate the art from the artist" should be reserved for "the artist is kind of a dick", not "the artist has crossed the line into literal holocaust denial in order to continue her crusade against a marginalised group."
"It takes a person with a uterus to have a baby. Only women have a uterus." 1. There are 2 intersex men I know of that have a penis and a uterus. One of them got married, had babies with his wife, and had periods through his penis. He didn't even find out he was intersex until age 40. The doctor told him, in theory, he could get pregnant. (The reason he didn't find out he was intersex until 40 is because he genuinely thought all men had periods) 2. I'm agender AFAB and was born with a uterus and could not get pregnant no matter how I tried. Phobic people would then tell me, "You're a woman because uterus." While also saying, "Getting pregnant makes you a woman." 3. I recently had a hysterectomy. These same phobes would tell me, "You don't have a uterus, so you're a man." while also saying, "You mutilated your body just to not be a woman." when my hysterectomy saved my life. 4. There was a woman born with a vagina who developed boobs and looked and identified as a woman but never started her period. At 18, she got examined and found out she was born without a uterus and had xy chromosomes. Instantly, all the guys who thought she was hot started calling her a man because of her chromosomes. 5. I have a friend who is intersex. She has boobs, a penis, and xxy chromosomes.
perfect thing to watch on a walk 3:17 not to go on a tangent but why are we still doing this? that essay from a few years ago was mostly about trans men being "tricked" and condescending to them in a weird way while also dehumanising them and treating them like scum. one of the first transphobic tweets of hers that most people paid attention to was erasing and misgendering trans men. she buys into the anti-transmasc crap just as much as the anti-transfem stuff at least. man, can we stop pretending jk is completely focused on specifically trans women?
All those transphobes would be royally pissed if someone would use the wrong pronouns for them and yet they think that trans people should be fine with it. I'm fortunate enough that I'm fine with my afab pronouns (as agender) so it doesn't bother me to still be referred to as she/her & Miss etc - though I do have a good amount of gender dysphoria about certain parts of my body so sadly it's not all well. I feel for those in the trans community that have to deal with this stuff.. I sometimes see comments that are pretty mean spirited and ignorant and it truly hurt me to see. (I stay off of social media for the most part, because I can't deal with all the hate) Whoever reads this: I love you. If there are people that can hate for no reason, it means that I can love for no reason.
In my country there was a politician that was talking ridicule about people having preffered pronounce, because of some kind of bug the system gave everyone he/she/they behind their name on the goverment website, she was angry and wanted to be called she. An other person said they should have know our party only has people with he/him pronounces in the goverment, they are religous and think women shouldn't be in politics. It was fixed realy fast.
Genuinely though, any sort of medical transition under the age of 18 is going to affect the individual, because your body is still growing and developing in that stage. There's a reason that under 18s aren't allowed, by law, to make certain choices. It doesn't make their experience invalid or anything, but we can't ignore the fact that human brains (when it comes to rational decision making) aren't fully developed at that stage in life. I know lots of people from my teen years that thought they were gay or bi, then realised they were straight or vis versa. I know a few that thought they might be trans, socially transitioned, but now they're just identifying as the gender they were born in. I empathise with how horrible gender dysphoria would be, but I think there's a middle here. I don't think the answer is to just let under 18s do anything medically.
People misunderstand the First Amendment all the time. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference. It's not a private person's right to slander or hate another person with no consequence. Words matter.
28:37 Is... she trying to say that she only transitioned because it was easier or more accepted than being a lesbian? And that that has something to do with the young man she's responding to? Listen lmao, I'm turning 34 in a couple months and realized I was trans when I was 20. I identify as a gay man. If it wasn't for society in the 90's and 2000's preaching trans men as the next step after being a super-huge mega lesbian, I would have been able to transition in my teens and maybe even get on puberty blockers! It just took me so long to recognize myself because I'm *not* attracted to women!
Idk what kinda world this ppl live in in witch being trans is more accapted than being gay, out of like 200 countries, I can name maybe 5 in witch being trans is more accapted than being gay. Even in places that hate both, usually gay is hated a bit less hated
In addition to what u said, one of my trans friends is aro ace, so he had no attraction as an "influence" to his gender, and ofc the example u gave, of gay trans ppl, and like jammie, bi trans people
In a textbook I was reading for school had a really good definition for gender. So the writer of the section is a trans man and he said that all men have a sense of themselves as men. I think the book is called readings for diversity and social justice.
Rowling is horrible as a person, but I can't let that ruin the Harry Potter that helped shape who I am as a person. I internalized that world. I lived in it. I wrote fanfiction that took it to completely different spaces. That experience and the world I created in myself belongs to ME, not Rowling. I cannot and will not let her or anyone else take that away from me. I could write multiple essays on the topic of why the themes of Harry Potter are, unto themselves, very much against the hateful rhetoric she spews about trans people. A transphobe wrote it, but that doesn't mean that the content itself agrees. Besides that, almost any historical and culturally formative literature is going to contain reflections of evil stereotypes and bigotry. If you can't separate art from artist, you've basically stopped yourself from learning about anything written more than 30 years ago. Tolkien, for instance, was a wonderful person by the standards of his time and he wouldn't be a racist today, but his work still contains shadows of anti-Black sentiment. That doesn't stop LoTR from being a beautiful depiction of love and growth and spirituality at the same time that it's racist. We need to look at any piece of literature with nuance, because nuance is embedded in all art. No text is black-or-white, completely perfect OR completely evil, and it's OUR responsibility to discern what that means for us as readers. I wouldn't directly support Rowling by purchasing Harry Potter merchandise at this point, but I can still love and talk about her work because of my personal, unique experience with it, which has absolutely no relation to Rowling's transphobia.
I highly recommend Shaun’s video on him deconstructing the HP books and how Joanne’s own biases ended up in the text (and very much proves that her content reflects her views) if you’re into that kind of media analysis, it’s super interesting. Not trying to change your mind or whatever, I can’t say I really understand as I’m personally working myself to a place I can burn the damn books because she’s so irrevocably tainted it and I want to gain that part of my child back from her but if you’re not financially supporting her, then go nuts, I’m happy you had some bright spark in your life that she gave you. Despite being a walking bin bag. Tolkien is dead and cannot profit off of his work, nor continue to talk about whatever racist views he had or influence the mass amount of transphobes that jowling kowling Rowling has. Joanne is sadly still on this mortal coil and until she decides to shuffle off of it, I cannot even think about engaging with her media, knowing how much she wants me to not exist and is funding just that. Separating art from the artist is a literary device for analysis, not a social one like it’s often used. I guess it could be applied to some of what you’re saying, but whether people choose to keep engaging with that human toilet brush’s work is very much up to them and not some implied failure of being able to compartmentalise. It’s a false equivalency to imply that because we are more lenient to dead and old authors, we should be to She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, because until she blessedly joins their ranks and we don’t have to hear from her anymore, it’s not the same at all. Maybe I’m coming off harsh towards her and, honestly I don’t care if I am, but I genuinely wish you many more happy hours with the series that I cannot have anymore.
@@Dancinglemon Thank you for the thoughtful response! I definitely get where you're coming from, and I will check out Shaun's breakdown of the books. I don't think I was entirely clear in saying that yes, the HP books employ stereotypes and weird, problematic themes at times. Like the house elves enjoying their enslavement, for instance. My argument would be that a) most media does that, even today, and b) the overarching themes of love and loyalty and non-judgment tend to outweigh the problematic aspects of Harry Potter, at least in my opinion. There is an ideological conflict within the content of the books, and a nuanced take on the series should acknowledge both. The question of separating art from artist is definitely complicated. But I do think it serves us, not just in academic analysis, but also in our capacity to enjoy and fully understand an artwork. Living or dead, everyone has some bad viewpoints. I'd rather not let that prevent me from seeing the beautiful sides of whatever they create. That doesn't mean ignoring the problems, but it does mean accepting that, no matter what the creator intended, art can speak to us on its own terms. Out of curiosity, have you ever read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad? That has to be one of the most nuanced stories I've ever encountered, and the critical responses to it vary wildly in their interpretation of its take on colonization. But for me, none of that is the point. Reading it is a beautiful, otherworldly experience that has its own meaning for me today. My experience is completely detached from what the author was trying to say to his own time and place. Trying to discern Conrad's own viewpoint is part of the fun, but it's not necessary to one's enjoyment of the story itself. Whether Conrad was for or against colonization is a huge determining factor in whether he was a good person, but it has nothing to do with the quality of his writing. Despite Rowling still being alive, I think the same principle ultimately applies to HP as well.
The other day this kid was being transphobic abt my partner (not maliciously but still icky) and he ended up quoting the Bible verse about homosexuality being a sin lmao, unsurprisingly he also works at chickfilla
My new favourite response to bigots using the Bible as a defence is to quote a random other book (my choice is the Gruffalo), followed by, "see, I can quote a book too, and it has just as much evidence as existing as your book". It tends to shut them up. 😂
That's why I refuse to eat at Chick-fil-A. I don't care how much people rave about how much they love their food, I'm hot spending my hard-earned cash to support homophobia and transphobia. I won't set foot in a Hobby Lobby for the same reason.
Im a cis woman who socially transitioned in 2017. I cut my hair, started wearing only mens clothes, went by a new name and pronouns and wore a binder too. I went to gender therapy to ultimately just figure out the right medical transition route for me. I live in BC Canada, where its all covered. I realized through therapy that I was having identity issues due to alot of other things. The gender dysphoria was coming from trauma, autism, bpd and body dysmorphia. I did a few more sessions with the gender therapist and then did DBT and trauma counselling.
I am actually the most feminine Ive ever been. And thats because gender therapy and access to these services is GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. It helped me, a cis woman, figure things out
And that to me, is just an example of why gender therapy and trans health care SHOULD be accessible everywhere.
Unfortunately, the transphobia and anti trans youth movement has exploded here in Canada too and people are protesting even in my own town.
I detransitioned and found myself as an autistic bisexual cis woman. And it made me want to advocate for trans rights even harder.
Based queen, I'm glad u discovered who u are and that it works for u and that u want the same for others.
This made me smile :>
That's right! People often miss the meaning of words " therapy" and "care". Like investigation, the process can have different results. The purpose is not to make everyone transition or to prevent everyone from transitioning. The purpose is every patient's health and happiness.
Absolute queen
We always love a supportive detransitioner, it gives me hope
The first TikTok is a classic queer joke tho. Saying "ugh, I hate that i look so gay" ironically, is peak queer culture. The other two people in that TikTok not getting it just shows that they are not familiar with the culture and it's jokes.
This just reminded me of a joke a few years back - I'm openly queer and have been for ages, one of the coworkers asked me to hang things up and when she checked asked for me to "make sure they were straight". I said "you're asking the least straight person to judge straightness" and we both had a laugh about it
There's a lady, Lucy Kartikasari from the Netherlands(?) who labels herself as "detransgender." Assigned female at birth, she medically transitioned including top surgery and HRT. Then after about a decade she transitioned back to being a woman. And she is hugely supportive of the trans community. She says she regrets almost nothing of her choices.
She uses the term "detransgender" versus "detransitioner" because de-transgender can be read as "from transgender." She sees having identified as transgender as a valid part of her ongoing journey as a person. It's really lovely to hear about people from the detrans community who arent anti-trans. Which is the vast majority. Anti-trans detransitioners are rare but given an outsized platform.
The name sounds Indonesian
@@advanceringnewholderI looked her up on TikTok, she has both the Dutch and the Indonesian flag in her bio as well as the Australian one.
She might have been born in the Netherlands and has Indonesian roots and now lives in Australia or has a Dutch parent.
I wonder how hard it is or how much help there is for people who want to detransition. I haven't heard much about that side of things.
@@advanceringnewholder Considering that the Netherlands colonized Indonesia at some point (and my own Indonesian heritage) it's really likely she just has Indonesian heritage or is Indonesian living in the NL.
@@merilynnshark6144 I'm sure It's dependant on country just like for trans people, but definitely there are challenges. From what I've heard even less support than for trans folk. Medical professionals I think become a bit leery of the idea of someone wanting medical intervention then changing their mind and wanting further intervention to reverse it. But in the end, whether transition or detransition it's gender affirming care and deserves to be taken seriously.
As a cisgender woman who had endometriosis, a hysterectomy, and never wanted kids anyway, I find it incredibly angering when people reduce me to my sex parts. Especially people who claim to be feminist.
Yep, I'm a demiguy and no endo (much to both my doctor and I's shock), but I've also had a hysterectomy and OMG the gross stuff I've been told. And the fact that even saying something like "I finally evicted my bastard uterus, good riddance" gets met with "I'm so sorry you lost your uterus", and "Don't worry, your life isn't totally over".
@@waffles3629 Yup. Like, my uterus was awful. I hated it so much. It brought me nothing but pain and misery. I basically couldn't function as an adult until it was removed. I had no regrets at all in removing, only relief and happiness in finally finding a doctor willing to do it.
@@dragonofmordor I had a hysterectomy because I had cancer. I was so happy to get it removed. It was probably worth having cancer to get rid of it. I could possibly still be having periods to this day if it was still in me. It was such a relief to not have them any more. It's been over 11 years since I got it out.
@@makeinubakaI got a hysterectomy because my uterus was trying to kill me, too. The surgeon actually asked if I was sure because I might want kids later and regret it. (I'd already told her I was asexual and child free by choice.) I looked her in the eyes and told her, "If I want kids, at least I'll be alive to adopt."
God, I feel you on being reduced to sex parts, though I am speaking from a different perspective as a trans guy who still has their uterus. It's honestly a poor way to understand someone's gender alone when the human body is not so binary as people like to think it is, and that's ignoring how objectifying it is when you just rely on body parts.
I got a damn pragerU ad
Telling me I should de transition to a girl
The weirdest part is I’m a cis guy
well, you heard em. put the dress on.
@@prageruwu69 Oh gods the username 💀
SHINJI! GET IN THE MAID OUTFIT!
@@sundalosketch4769we don’t talk about the username
@@sundalosketch4769they definetly got *activated* when Dennis said "I want milk i want mommy"
"i hate that they're right" CLEARLY means "i'm somewhat embarrassed that my look is so stereotypically non-binary that a total stranger can correctly guess my pronouns before i've spoken a single word." obviously they don't want to be misgendered, but it's that kind of feeling like when someone sees my fat white lady ass and goes "can i offer you a pumpkin spice latte?" ...yes, yes you can but it's a little awkward that i can be read so easily >.>;;
love candace jumping from "you have to be born with a uterus to have a baby" (true) to "only women can get pregnant." she entirely skips the question of "does a uterus make someone a woman? does the ability to get pregnant make someone a woman?" yes, you have to be born with a uterus to get pregnant. some people who are born with a uterus turn out to be men. some people who are born with a uterus can't ever get pregnant. some people who, chromosomally and hormonally and psychologically, would be identified as a woman were NOT born with a uterus.
TJ Maxx Hugo Weaving can get all the way back in the bin with his nonsense
detranser: society accepts gay & lesbian people now
florida: DON'T SAY GAY
First: great username
Second: mood.
Hilarious 😂 with that pumpkin spice comment!
I agree with what you said. I read the "hate they were right" as "I am such a stereotype"
I just got wilderness first aid certified. Part of our training was that people need to consent, for kids their parent or guardian provides consent for them. If kids cannot have medical intervention and gender affirming care because they “can’t consent” I also can’t pack your kids deep cut in the woods, they’re gonna die.
I wish people would just see how deeply LGBTQ+ identity issues can affect kids when they don’t feel like they are in a safe place to come out. Gender affirming care is lifesaving care, maybe not as imminently as bleeding out in the woods, but trans kids still need support and care and medical treatments as determined necessary by someone able to make that call.
Good way of putting it, trans healthcare is also healthcare
@@grawrisher exactly. There are plenty of things that kids "can't consent to" that are done regardless because it's necessary, for their benefit, etc. If a 12 year old cis boy can get top surgery for gynecomastia, a 12 year old trans boy should be able to choose blockers.
It’s wild how many people think trans folks are asking others to call them any a certain name or pronoun. Like, I’m not asking you for anything, I’m informing you of what my gender and name is, you can choose not to use it but then you’ll simply be incorrect?
As long as you pass as the gender you identify and not going by they/them or any other pronouns outside of she/her and he/him, you shouldn't have any problems in general
Like do they not tell people their names? Are we supposed to keep them a secret?
I've had transphobes refuse to use my name until I give them my "real name". Aka my birth name, aka the name I go by. They are asking for the name I told them. Often while aggressively "misgendering" me with the pronouns I just said.
@@Canada_OfficialBut it's different when we do it. /s
OMG ITS LEXI FROM EMKAY IM A HUGE FAN HAFHGAHHNFFHIRDHUDF
Hey, just in case anybody wants or needs to hear some good news: Germany has just passed a law that allows anybody to easily change their legal gender into their prefered gender (options: male, female, diverse) without any tests or anything. It's called the law on self-determination with regard to gender registration or just self-determination law.
Based Germany.
W Germany 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Isn't male or female sex and not gender though?
*that's so close to my country. When will it come to mine? ° °*
@@SuperJJParker
sex yes
gender is how you identify
tans gender is changing sex to match gender
idk if this helped
I Jewish. My favorite example of more than two genders is the 8 genders in the Talmud. My Jewish Learning has a great article on it. Here is an example from the article that applies to me as a trans woman.
"Saris adam, identified male at birth and later developing female characteristics through human intervention."
Yep, centuries ago Rabbis understood that there are male assigned people who medically transition. There is also the term "Aylonit adam" for female assigned people who medically transition. And they include categories that can apply to nonbinary and intersex folks.
"Androgynos, having both male and female characteristics.
Tumtum, lacking sexual characteristics."
So true!
Man colonialism really messed things up huh I've never even heard of these
That’s so interesting! Live reading about other religions and beliefs and how the man/woman gender is a very recent thing.
@@Equines_and_Animals Love* and you replied under my comment not the originals if that wasn't your intention
@@Indigo_Shard Ah yes thanks for correcting me!
10:42 "If it's pregnant, it's a woman" I'm gonna tell the pregnant sheep next door thwt they're women now
go tell it ya derp! LOL.
But the sheep is a woman
@@Evil_Jyan A woman is a female hominid, a female sheep is a ewe.
Seahorses are going to be very upset by this.
Baaah
Misgendering a cis person: "Can you please not do that?" "Oh yeah sure thing."
Misgendering a trans person: "Can you please not do that?" "I have as much right as I want to call you what I want!"
Misgendering someone's dog: "A(S!D&@AS(@D&!SA(D@&&AS!DP&AS(!D&^"
If transphobes hate transgender and cisgender, we could go with heterogender and homogender... 😂
I'm fully on board with calling them homogender
Hell yeah
Okay homogender😂😂😂 homosexual and homogender, that’s amazing
I’m a homosexual, homogender homosapien (I’m not actually, I’m cis and a space alien with four butts, please tell me someone gets that reference)
oh they'd HATE being called homogender..
If I ran into an airport and screamed, "I have a 💣" I would be arrested. Those would be the consequences of my choices. I'm totally free to say/do that, no one is technically stopping me. I'm just aware that certain things have consequences because I have a functioning brain.
This is a perfect analogy, freedom of speech not freedom of consequence.
The saddest thing is, I'm aware of at least one person with Tourette's that has coprolalia and literally shouted that out at an airport. Thankfully they phoned up to warn them beforehand, but it must have been so scary (I think they were a teenager at the time).
@@mrseaweed88I completely understand the analogy, however yelling 💣 or 🔥 in a public space is actually not protected by the first amendment. They’re one of the few exceptions as inciting panic when there is no threat is punishable by law. I think FAFO applies better. Sure you CAN say some horribly deplorable sh*t to someone but that’s doesn’t mean they’ll refrain from returning the favor at some capacity (like exposing what you said to your boss, for example)
@@CashhhhewI agree, but Jamie made it out that the government can arrest you, which it can’t.
Sure people can protest, boycott, but unless you invite a panic or threaten violence, the US government will not intervene.
Other countries are def more strict, like Scotland, Canada is also pretty restrictive when it comes to free speech.
Yes but I hope we can agree that misgendering is not on the same level as threatening to blow up an airport
"Free speech" doesn't protect defamatory speech, harassment and slander. If a publication slanders someone (knowingly distributes false information about someone), that someone can sue. I'd argue that calling a trans woman "a man" and INSIST on using he/him pronouns for her is not just slander, but harassment that seeks to cause distress.
It's tricky though, culture at large has to reach critical mass of understanding this before a legal precedent can be set.
That's not slander lmao
Nope, that's still free speech.
6:11. Even when we DO provide them with receipts of JKR being transphobic, they will still come back with “she never said that” or “how is that transphobic”. It’s because to them “transphobia” doesn’t exist because trans people don’t exist. It’s the whole “Telling the truth isn’t transphobic” BS that they spout on a daily basis. Also I agree Jamie. I used to LOVE HP. I even tried the “separate the art from the artist” thing but I just can’t. Every time I look at anything HP I just see all the horrible things she has done to hurt people I love.
Yep, they really act like "I can't discriminate against a group that doesn't exist" actually works. Like nope.
Or the annoying "how is that transphobic, she's just saying facts" BS 🙄
I’m rewriting Harry Potter to be not bigoted. I’ll post it on Wattpad eventually
@@theultimatenerd9825 you are a legend!
I am 42 and I decided to avoid pregnancy by abstaining from sex because I'm physically disabled and cannot take care of a child. I am just now taking care of myself. Candace is saying not getting pregnant makes me less of a woman. Now I don't like her. Big L
I also have abstained for over 10 years now. But I agree with Candice's description of me hahaha. Im trans sorry😉😉
@@Him_He_Me the only thing that bothered me is how she implied a woman is not a woman until she concieves and gives birth to a child, like all women should reproduce or they're not women. Can you imagine how many people there would be on earth if every single person was fertile and straight? Like 20 billion people.
People have very good reasons for not wanting to have kids. Simply not wanting them is as valid as any other reason. Your identity should not be dependent on whether you produce offspring or not.
I saw a clip of Allison Bailey of the so-called LGB Alliance talking about how "young girls [I.e. boys] are removing their breasts that have never felt a lover's caress." It's implying that the purpose of breasts is for a lover to "caress", which is not just scientifically wrong, but also very much not feminist. This thought most certainly stems from internalized misogyny.
@@LoremIpsum-dp1li there happens to be a widespread misunderstanding with regard to that quote. If memory serves, it is the opinion/quote of someone interviewing Allison Bailey. That said, my memory also tells me it was a print article (though this same interview could exist in both video and print).
🙋♀️ cis woman with secondary infertility, have a cis daughter who has chosen not to have kids. Are we not women either? Woman's argument is b.s.
Even saying that a woman is an "adult human female" is not correct, as it does not cover all edge cases. For example, how many adults are there on the average Women's Gymnastics team at the Olympics?
There's women born without a uteris, or they never grow bubbas, who grow facial hair, can't have children, ...
(There's been womb transplants on the women born without one: 90 succesful ones, with 50 succesful, healthy births! This is a huge step for science, and infertile women would be able to have children much easyer too in the future. Or even trans women?...)
@@spruce-ui2eh wait womb transplants are a real thing??!!
@@spruce-ui2ehOh?! I'd heard they were experimenting with that, didn't know they'd been successful :D that is absolutely amazing!!! Science rules!
Even if you're a cis woman who has infertility issues,you're still a bio woman
My thing about "sepereting the art from the artist" in regard to JK Rowling. You can see her sexist views in her writing. Hermione and Luna is just to troll woman. They laugh at Hermione for wanting to free the elves from slavery.
The transphobia isnt in the writing but there's enough other repulsive shit that you just can't avoid.
I won't even get started on the racism elements too.
There's so much woman bashing in Harry Potter! I didn't see it in Hermione and Luna, I quite like them but there's a lot of making fun of girly girls in the books. Like making fun of lavender for her giggling and boy-craziness or Cho for crying all the time. Also, there are evil characters portrayed as manly like Rita Skeeter
@emily79519 I quite like Luna myself. But if you look at the way she was written it felt like a parody of stoner hippies in an oddly sexist way.
Hermione felt like a huge joke of liberal woman fighting for rights and wanting to be well read and educated. Again. They all made fun of her for wanting to free elves from slavery which is not funny???
@@nottabought7410 oh yeah, I hated how everyone was okay with house elf slavers even Harry
Yeah it's weird how much she goes with the angle of protecting women from trans people when she doesn't even seem to like women in the first place.
she's not sexist, no you can't "see it in her writing" but you can make that shit up in your brain so you have something to cry about.
"Life can get harder [if you transition]."
Yeah. *We know.* Transphobes exist.
"Life can get harder" WHAT? nooooo.... no way....
some things got harder, like dealing with the haters, but overall life got so much easier.
how else would life get harder somebody tell me bc i genuinely don’t know like they are the only bad part about transitioning😭
Whenever people bring up the "buT It'S FReE SpeECH!!!" argument, I think of this line from an xkcd comic:
"I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express."
me favorite quote for the free speach argument is "'oH, bUT FreEdOm oF sPEacH,' that protects you from the government, not me, bitch, run" lmao
I am a huge free speech supporter. I am a Jew and will defend the free speech rights of Neo Nazis. But I will also denounce their views.
You can support someone's right to express their views while strongly condemning those views.
You have the right to say bigoted things, but I also have the right to tell you to shut the fuck up.
Also, you don't have the right to do whatever you want. If you're causing harm that's not free speech.
@@jennoscura2381 exactly! Unless it's a law to talk about a certain subject ever, you have free speech to talk about it!
Even if it's socially unnaceptable, you're still not going to prison :)
Maybe to the hospital though if you're particularly annoying though
@@jennoscura2381 i feel like that gets into the tolerance paradox, whereby being tolerant of intolerant views allows those intolerant views to spread and recruit more intolerant people and silence by intimidation the people those intolerant views are targeting. so it is because i denounce the views of neo-nazis and any views which would advocate for the extermination of a group of people that i will NOT defend the "free speech rights" of those people. besides, we already have laws limiting free speech when it is a public health and safety threat: you can't yell FIRE in a crowded theater, you can't make terroristic threats, you can't make death threats against ANYONE... there's actually a lot of limitations and rightly so. "free speech" basically just means the secret service can't throw you in prison for saying donald trump sucks donkey dick.
The thing about those parents who say things like “my baby is a boy and nothing will change that.” The slightest gender nonconformity and the parents will be bombarding them with “you’re a boy, you know.” And things like this, believe me, I know.
Off topic but yooo nice name‼️‼️‼️
Feel this, me too broski
I have a trans uncle and I myself am trans. My mom always says “but they will always be my sister” and when she misgenders me she uses the excuse “Im old and my mind is set in its ways.”
@@xBloodxFangx Air horn at the dinner table each time she gets it wrong. Either that, or you start having candid conversations about early onset dementia and how are concerned about the way she seems to struggle so much with change in her everyday life. Stress that you love her and she will always be your mom, but there are spezialized care homes where her needs could be properly met. Get some flyers.
@@WantedVisualchaotic good spotted, that's a good idea though... But one I doubt I'll ever get the chance to try out myself since it turned out that most of my family on my mother's side are either LGBT+ or allies. On the other side though... They're all allergic to communication and family ties so I think I'm safe there, they don't need to know what I'm up to since the only one who's shown any interest in communication I've actively blicked as he unfortunately just wants to continue actively causing harm- and he's very likely unaware that I'm trans since I only told family who also hate him for his actions. Man, people like that are tiring though, so much wasted energy on their part
the detransitioners falling into the transphobe pipeline are what saddens me the most. By falling ito that pipeline they have only ensured they'll be more isolated and alone by shunning away people who might have understood and sympathetised with them, and are causing people to have a negative view of detransitioners in general. So many have become convinced that any complications or problems they faced are universal and are now actively hurting trans people and being outright cruel in their fight to 'save' people from ebing trans, and they jsut cannot see what they've become or what they're doing in the process.
All trans women are women, but not all women are trans women. Just like how cake is dessert, but not all dessert is cake. The existence of trans women does not diminish cis women's existence, at least I don't feel diminished and I'm friends with several trans women XD
Also, as someone who studied biology, I really hate it when people conflate sex, gender and sexuality. They're three different things.
I’m a couple weeks away from having my Bachelor’s in women’s and gender studies. I find it frustrating and sad with the sex/gender/sexuality thing. I wish more people would recognize they are completely different, but related, things
Trans-women are biologically male, and Trans-men are biologically female. Women are biologically female, and Men are biologically male. So no, Trans-women are not women, and Trans-men are not men. It's just reality.
I think it’s so funny when they say “it’s basic biology” like damn you only did basic biology no wonder your confused it’s advanced biology when they go into he fact that gender is literally biologically a spectrum, it’s controlled by multiple different chromosomes that don’t always match up and your gender and/or sex are decided by the different combinations of those chromosomes. That’s why it’s actually not that uncommon for someone to XX and have fully male anatomy or be XY and have fully female anatomy. It’s almost like the human body has the capacity to be grow into any gender so trying to make it black and white doesn’t work
@@emilyjohn2034they think they know more than researchers
if people have so much trouble with the latin prefixes cis and trans, let's use greek! people who's gender is different from assigned at birth are heterogender and people who's gender is the same as assigned at birth are homogender! that'll fix all the troubles!
Oh, I would LOVE to see the faces of transphobes when we call them "homogender!" The ultimate 'Be careful what you wish for!'
The transphobes can't be called anything 'homo'. Once they learn about 'homo sapian' we don't know what they'll do. /s
I'm here for this. I'm gonna start calling my transphobic, homophobic dad "homogender"
Oh my god if that happens I'll finally be hetero
Nooo, they don't have a problem with the terms themselvs, they have a problem with what it implies, that it's a possibility that people can be a gender that isnt their assumed gender at birth, so they take away those words so you can't categorise it
17:16 this is actually considered a hate crime in Canada! To actively harrass and purposely misgender someone is considered a hate crime in Canada as it would be covered by our laws. Simply misgendering someone by accident wouldn't but if someone was harassing Dylan here because of her identity by misgendering her, it's a crime.
This is EXACTLY what transphobes don't seem to be able to comprehend. If you misgender someone the first time by accident (either because they look kind of 'ambiguous' in that sense or you just don't pick up the clues for whatever reason) most of the time you're not going to get any pushback for it, maybe just a correction and perhaps a polite request to use the correct term in future. Which, if you're a respectful person with *actual manners,* is not a difficult thing to do - we're taught politeness and consideration for others as *little kids,* and most *little kids* can manage to both grasp the concept and act on the knowledge learned.
But if you're *repeatedly* misgendering someone, even after being asked not to do so, THAT IS A CHOICE YOU ARE MAKING. You're not receiving pushback for something that's completely out of your control - *you are repeatedly putting thought and effort into doing the thing that is getting you pushback.* You are that idiot repeatedly standing on the rake and then getting annoyed when that rake smashes you in the face, instead of - y'know, *not standing on the rake.* You CHOOSE to be that idiot, the world will TREAT you like that idiot, it's not rocket science!
Crazy country
Canada has gone down hill...
Wish that was the law all over the place.
@@montanalemaitre4451 OK totalitarian
Fun fact: the regret rates of trans surgeries are lower than the regret rates of HEART SURGERY. Not sure why people still treat it like it’s some kind of super common issue of people regretting it
Exactly like….
i like how transphobes defenses are basically just "Nuh uh" with progressively longer and longer wording
It's like me trying to lengthen an essay to make it the right word count by spewing more and more bullshit till nothing makes sense.
Yep, along with conflating their opinions as fact.
basically "yeah but no but" except its an odyssey length waffle
@@catalyst3713That's so funny because I thought your comment was talking about transphobes being truthphobes and crybullies. It would have made more sense that way, but alas, the world is not so sensible.
@manikmykie Is calling people transphobes disrespectful? How about demanding others affirm delusion? How about allowing males to invade women's spaces? How about indoctrinating, mutilating and permanently destroying the sexual function of kids for a condition that over 90% will literally grow out of?
You're right I'm not the victim here, you and people like you are, to an ideology that clearly doesn't have your best interest. Only the interests of pharmaceutical companies who wish to exploit you.
I don't need to identify with any community to speak the truth as I see fit, and I don't need your approval to be here.
I think Jaime missed a massive laps in logic in that last video, the story was about a trans person who "identified as a girl from a young age and never wavered or contradicted herself." And the parent was like "yes this is a long running thing I will respect you child and your knowledge of yourself" the anti-trans guy immediately attacked hormones and their supposed use on young kids, when neither hormones, nor giving them to children were ever mentioned. Man literally changed the story so he could make a very supportive dad for his trans kid sound like a bad thing
hope jaime sees this
I REALLY wish that supportive dad had just responded with "What the hell are you talking about, dumbass? That child ISN'T 'getting hormones' - THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. She'll get puberty blockers when she hits puberty, but she won't be getting any hormones 'added' until she's eighteen. If you don't know what you're talking about, DO THE RESEARCH - don't just make a bunch of shit up to fake people into getting mad."
I was also surprised. Like who tf said anything about hormones!?
Joe Rogan fucking sucks idk why he’s getting literally millions each month from making awful podcasts.
32:38
Not sure if you are saying that later, Jamie doesn't re-mention it? But time stamp I saw your comment just as I was getting to that part of the video.).
Jamie does address here that Rogen mentioned hormones, but that Adam Conover never mentioned hormones were given.
The detransers are ridiculous... it's like someone who has an allergy to tylenol going on a rampage on everyone elses page with "Hey... I took tylenol too and didn't think I'd regret it but then I did... so it's dangerous to deal with that headache. Why can't you just accept your headache you were born with and why are we pushing this idea of treating headaches on children?"
It’s a small thing but my mom agreed to take me to my first pride parade next month! 🏳️⚧️
yay
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What drives me most crazy is that these people intentionally misunderstand the entire topic of being trans and then act like they are experts. While actual trans people who are experiencing this in real time, firsthand are ignored and told we don't have a right to say anything. It's madness.
Well, refuting reality does prove you have more will power than your opponent
Yes. They're being dense on purpose. Like out of spite.
@@nitzeart yes, out of spite, like, how dare you westerners want to force us to give up our identity and laws, wasnt colonisation enough for you?
Never forget Candice went to the Ben Shapiro school of debate which is simply throw out as many words as you can so your opponent who more than likely doesn't not naturally talk that fast can't get a word in
And start raising your voice any time someone starts to hint at a logical argument you have no evidence to refute.
@@kristalpower292 and loudly say "No it's a FACT" when called out for treating your opinion as a fact.
It's Gish Galloping - a terrible debate tactic.
Any time I realize someone isn't going to let me get a word in edgewise I pull out my phone. Tells them they aren't worth my time as well as just lets me ignore them.
@@EmoBearRights it has a name? Heh that's amusing to me for some reason learned something new
"We should be able to say whatever we want about you"
Oh okay you're cisgender -
"NO! Not like that!"
“People should be able to reject any labels they want”
“Don’t call me cisgender”
“NO! Not like that!”
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 So you agree that trans women should reject being called a man and trans men should reject being called a woman. Great! Thanks for your understanding. 😇
‘iTs UnNaTuRaL’ coughs in 8 genders of the talmud, sekhet ancient Egyptian gender, the Hijra people of the Indian subcontinent, the priestesses of inanna, the priests of the Eurasian scythians, the māhū of indigenous Polynesia, sistergirls and brotherboys in indigenous Australian nations, the priestesses of Dionysus, two spirit people in indigenous nations of turtle island, the eunuchs described to have frequented the Ptolemaic courts, the mudoko dako of modern day Uganda, the jinbaanda of central Africa… I think the only place we’re missing is the coloniser nations of western europe. Hm. Weird.
When the British showed up they made the hijra illegal when they occupied India. There's also the Muxes of Latin America which were persecuted under the Spanish. You have the mahu from Hawai'i which much like the rest of the native island life suffered under control from the US.
You and I both understand what these people do not want to face which is the fact that the concept of a heteronormative two gender society is a product of Western colonialism from a strictly puritanical society with heavily enforced gender roles. The kind of gender roles that had women burned at the stake for wearing pants
What's unnatural is putting people into boxes.
@@electronics-girlthe problem is forcing them into boxes, even if they don't fit
transphobes will seriously get enraged over and look wayyy too deep into an obvious joke but then insist that we are the sensitive and misguided ones 😭
They're just like "OPPORTUNITY TO BE BIGOTED, OPPORTUNITY TO BE BIGOTED" while getting wildly excited 😂
DAVE STRIDER!!! :D
homestuck fan detected. launching missle strike in 3...
They're the same people who complain about humor being watered down as well.
@@Ieaterasersi and he writes exactly like him too
A good chunk of the US has a weird obsession with free speech. Like, they don't seem to remember that slander and truth in advertising laws also limit free speech. Free speech without limits leads to politicians and corporations being allowed to lie wildly without consequence.
As my math teacher said, "You can do anything you want. You can say anything you want. Just don't expect there will be no consequences for what you say and do."
xkcd once made a comic about how free speech does not mean others have to tolerate your views, and in the title text, Randall talks about how he once heard someone say that defending your position with "free speech" is really the ultimate concession since it's saying that the best thing you can say about your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
under their BS "free speech" they often forget "Defamation" which, kind of a crime guys. Which dylan is entitled to take action against.
And the thing is that Freedom of Speech just means that a government can't prosecute you for your opinions. But as a person technically you could sue anyone for slander or libel, it doesn't guarantee you'll win, but you can.
@@LoremIpsum-dp1li "since it's saying the best thing you can say about your position is that it's not literally illegal to express"
Damn, I love that
i used to be transmedicalist and a bit nb-phobic (believing in "trans-trenders"), till one day it just clicked in my mind. Like why the fuck do i care what other people do, im a transgender man, their are so many cis people that wouldnt respect my identity and who i am. Why would i do the same thing to people that have it even worse bc they dont fit in the binary ? (since then ive worked a lot on many of my bigotries and how its just best that everyone can be who they are) Like how much free rental space do we take in those transphobic people ? meanwhile we're just trying to live "normal lives"
I grew up with homophobia and transphobia so I was a bit of a bigot for a time. Glad to have learned to be chill through my move :)
I’m Pan/Ace NB now so, kinda funny.
Odin carved the first man from an oak and the first woman from an ash. There are as many genders as there are trees and each person makes up the beauty of the forest
Can my gender be willow? That's my favourite tree, got one near my home :3 (this is not meant to be a phobic joke, sorry if it came off that way)
My gender is arrowwood. Also not being transphobic, I just think it sounds cool and dangerous
Didn't some of those gods change genders btw? Don't remember which one..Loki?
@@maxc1366 loki definitely, he was a famous shapeshifter, thor once did drag, and the rest I don't know
@@maxc1366 yes. He also turned into a mare and had sex with a stallion, eventually giving birth to an 8 legged horse
I love the fact that by me just simply existing,pisses transphobes off.🏳️⚧️I am proud.
same
I call it living rent free in their heads. Where there's a lot of empty real estate.
Im proud i make them uncomfortable just by existing
*They fear me*
i exist to confuse the conservatives
@@TheWerewolfOfNorway-mf5jz That's a nice argument senator but why don't you back it up with a *source?*
Most of the time I think I’m a binary trans person, and then the non binary urge to be reborn as a genderless alien hits.
Sounds genderfluid to me.
Maybe you're gender fae, or whatever the male version of it is called (sorry that I can't remember)?
@@FrozEnbyWolf150 lmao i identified as gender fluid for a good 3 years before moving onto ftm because I figured that most describes my identity
@@sheersternfeld1914 I think genderfaun. That's gender fluidity that more encompasses masculine genders. Genderfae more encompasses feminine genders. I'm genderflor myself, which is agender genderfluid.
@@sheersternfeld1914The term for the male-biased version of genderfae (a/k/a genderdoe) is genderfaun.
Also, having the cis man argue in favor of transmen being real men even if they have babies actually makes me really happy because of my prior experiences with cis men.
It's not cismen who have an issue with transmen, it's radfems
I don't get the extreme reaction to hormone blockers. Like, we're totally cool with giving them to kids when they have medical issues where they need them. hormone blockers don't transition someone. They just pause things until they are old enough to make decisions without being forced to go through things that might be extremely traumatic for them. TBH, I'm not trans, but as someone who due to medical issues found hormones incredibly traumatic right from the start, I would have loved to have access to hormone blockers.
My cis female cousin had puberty blockers when she was younger, because her parents hoped she would grow taller before puberty stops her bone growth. I don't know if the wanted effect was ever achieved, but she is a happy mother of two children nowadays. No ill effects. Just a little extra time to grow.
The reality is that they aren't against puberty blockers. They are against any level of gender non-conformity. So they are against youth expressing as the opposite sex, changing names and pronouns, and puberty blockers. There is no "acceptable" gender non-conformity. The closest they come is telling trans youth to just me a "feminine boy" or a "masculine girl." But that is _only_ said to trans kids. Cis youth who are gender non-conforming are told to be more traditional. The goal posts for queer people are always one yard backwards from wherever they currently are. And those goal posts will keep moving backwards and until they hit cishet normative traditional gender roles.
Puberty blockers have also been used for decades in cases of precocious puberty. Imagine being 7 years old and developing breasts, or starting to menstruate. Haven't heard of any long-term negative side effects of the use of these medications.
That is a different scenario. With gender dysphoric kids, puberty blockers is stopping their natural puberty from developing.
Ex. Doctor gives PB for a 13 year old and the 13 year stops puberty blockers stops at 16, at that point they can't reverse time and get back 3 years worth of missed puberty.
@@cole5669thats not how it works. It's not like you can only undergo puberty during a set few years (thus missing out on 3 years of puberty due to being on blockers for 3 years.) Puberty will simply resume upon coming off blockers and will still go for just as long. The process simply starts later.
@@ILuvMoogles I've never heard of that and even if that's the case, puberty is essential for physical and mental development, so it's best to be left alone.
My daughter (lgbt+ literature grad) says the only way you can separate the artist from the art is if they are dead. 🤔
New assignment for them I guess
Edit: my firat reply seems to have disappeared. The 'them' I was referring to were the Naval division of the Locibarpulan Lancers, who I was already planning to send over to Terf Island for otger reasons
I don't know for me if it is possible for me personally to seperate the art from the 'artist'.
@gone_mad-tryagainlater *The only thing they fear is you plays*
She is correct, many great artist in history were racist, sexist, anti-semetic, etc, but because they are dead they do not profit off of our enjoyment of their work. JKR is still alive and does financially benefit from us using her products, and she recently used 70 000 pounds of that profit to continue to harm trans people.
I think it also depends on the creation/art form.
Edit: Such as how much of their ideology goes into the artform and whether they're gaining influence or funds from it.
"If gender is a spectrum, why do we have to try to change anything? Why can't you just be you?" Because while gender is a spectrum, not all gender identities are. They are typically a specific space on that spectrum, and in order to 'be me', I would have to change things, because the body I was born in does not represent the 'me' I feel I am. Gender being a spectrum does not mean any particular person would feel comfortable on any point in that spectrum or presenting like it; for me personally, although I am nonbinary, I am also a demiboy, and would not be comfortable or identify with presenting anywhere on the feminine side of the spectrum. Something being fluid / flexible =/= inherently devoid of meaning or definition.
That "these are facts" lady just wanted to get that out of her system. She's rapidly insisting that she's correct and doesn't need a reason, it's just facts. The dude was just a target to release it onto.
She must have learned from Ben Shapiro. Talk fast. Talk as you breathe out and in.
I am so overjoyed by the fact that I live rent free in these people’s brains so much so that they think about transness more than me
I agree it's a wonderfully bizzare reality - trans people are so busy living life and getting on with it versus transphobes obsessing about it 🤭🤭🤭
Yea. I am a post op trans woman. For me trans only really comes up when it's time to inject my estrogen. Otherwise, for the most part I am just living my life. I am an observant Jew. Judaism occupies my bain for more than being trans. Especially since Passover is tomorrow.
@jennoscura2381 my step brother is gay and Jewish and I think it's the same for him too. He'll be celebrating Passover with his mom and her family tomorrow
@@noahmcdowell7731I thought judaism didn't accept people being gay?
Yep, they really do act like we spend all day thinking "I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans". Yeah, I'm actually just trying to decide what kind of waffles I want.
I hated being called cisgender, and that made me feel like an asshole. I later figured out why I hated it when I finally realized that I was trans. I was internally so frustrated with my gender identity that it must have reminded me of what I was not. I spent so much of my life lying to myself about anything LGBTQIA+. Now I am finally out as a bisexual transman, and I finally feel comfortable.
dang, internalized transphobia really hits... nice to hear you've found yourself out though!
Glad to hear you found yourself. I've been called transphobic for saying I'm not cis. Like yeah, cause I'm non-binary.
Congrats man
I am a trans woman and I have taken HRT for more than 13 years. Ok it's not 20 years like the person in one of the video, but it's a long time anyway. I have never regretted transitionning, not even once. This person needs to understand that her bad experience doesn't mean transition is bad.
I was a teenager when I started transitionning and I would have greatly benefited from puberty blocker, but they weren't accessible in my time. Yes, teenagers can know if they are trans or not. Yes, I was already in touch with a psychiatrist and an endocrinologist that allowed me to start hormones as soon as I turned 18 (the legal age at the time in my country, I don't know about nowadays). And I have never regretted it.
Also the person said that nowadays society has accepted trans people. Well I don't know about USA (I mean I see the news, it looks awful...), but I can say for France that it is totally wrong. People were much more acceptant when I started, in the early 2010. They were curious, clumsy, but generally well-meaning. There was transphobia, of course, and I faced it on some occasion, but it is much, much worse nowadays. Now it has become a political issue, and people have a political opinion on it, regardless of what the science says, regardless of what trans people live and experience. People who have never seen a trans person have an opinion on our right to exist.
For like 10 years, I didn't feel the need to say that I'm trans, to talk to other trans people and so on. Now, the evolution of society on trans issues scares me so much that I feel the need to go to trans group and exchance with other trans people. In the 2010, it was much more easier. It was harder on a medical perspective, but easier on a societal perspective, really.
I never understand why anything that's reduces gender dysphoria is bad *hiss* but things like plastic surgery for body dysmorphia/dysphoria is "normal"; Boob jobs are normal, nose jobs are normal, BBLs are normal, but woe upon the world if a teen were to get puberty blockers.....
"Only women can get pregnant"... Darn, I'd hate to be a vet dealing with all those different species of animals and only being able to call them "woman". 🙄
Can you see this pregnant male seahorse? It's a woman now!
@@littlebluepearlA whole new level of transitioning. /jk
i was confused bc i thought you meant veteran and i did not understand how that correlated 😭
@@littlebluepearlOMG... all male seahorses are trans now! Everyone welcome our new trans sisters❤
@@caspeezy Ah yes, our brave soldiers dealing with sick sassy cats and having to take their temperatures. It is quite a duty.
Bro they’re gonna hate when they find out the oldest book we have evidence of explicitly described trans people… shout out to the priestess of that ancient Mesopotamian goddess (Inanna) who pretty much invented signing off books with an author and also said “To turn a man into a woman and a woman into a man are yours, Inanna”
This continues with Ishtar, a similar Sumerian deity.
The guy complaining about free speech and saying that Dylan Mulvaney should be okay with being misgendered is forgetting that there are exceptions to free speech, namely slander, libel, and defamation. I can't wait until we get to a point where trans people can sue bigots for defamation if they continuously publish articles misgendering trans people. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not totally versed on how all of this works, but I know in New York, it's at least classified as hate speech.
People who say others should be okay with being misgendered should be misgendered right back, even called the wrong name; see how long before they complain.
That’s not defamation lmao
Germany's new trans law has this as a clause. Willfully misgendering someone who (the accused suspects) has legally changed their name and gender can be fined up to €10.000 starting this November.
Also, why does that guy look like his face is made out of plastic?
I wonder how that guy complaining would feel about someone following him around the internet and misgendering him... 🧐 "Free speech" and all...
I got an ad for bras. 😭
I’m a trans man lmfao. I got no interest in that shit
I want to start wearing sports bras, but I haven't started hormones yet. 😭
If it's any consolation, I'm 67 years old, cis man, and I've gotten ads like that. So welcome to the club.
Rip
Yeah CZcams keeps rubbing it in with bra and dress ads😭😭😭
Edit because of your edit: oh… wow that might be worse
@Vahlee-A It’s not a perfect solution, but maybe balled up socks could work? I know that I am probably far from the first person to say this but it might help.
Supporting the art without supporting the artist becomes a little bit more complicated when some of the actors loudly become allies against the autor's transphobia.
Man, I'm not even trans, yet watching these tiktoks makes my blood boil.
I am trans, and I wasn't able to finish the video.
@@electronics-girl❤ (idk if you're sad or mad or both but here is some love) ❤
@@Samson16436 Thanks! Like the OP, transphobes make my blood boil. So yeah, too mad (and just disgusted) to watch it all the way through.
we need allies to stand with us.
The truth makes your blood boil?
luckily, transphobia in general has gone down a lot, however the transphobes are just becoming louder and louder because they're with less people and are actively trying to find other transphobes now.
My brother used to be kinda transphobic and homophobic but now he's actively referring to me as his sister (for context: I'm a trans woman) so yes, slowly transphobes are lessening in numbers
I feel transphobia is growing, while in the past most didn't really care, now people are actively against it.
People have been turning against gender ideology over the last few years, see opinion polling
That's what I've noticed irl too. They're using the damn internet to spread their transphobia which sucks cause a lot of us use it to find community.
hi, trans person here who uses it/its/itself pronouns. i get there are people who hate those pronouns, but i know a handful of trans people who also use it/its. it's gross for people to use those pronouns to devalue the humanity of anyone
i feel like there’s a very different vibe when someone is being referred to as “it” because that’s its/one of its preferred pronouns and when someone is being referred to as “it” in an attempt to dehumanize/insult/etc.
@@SnowDragon_2204 yee, that's what I referred to at the end. I just noticed Jamie (second video mentioning transphobes calling trans people it) feels uncomfy. I completely understand, I just think he should also know that people use it/its by choice or no pronouns at all
I don’t quite understand how to use it/its pronouns. Can I get some help? I have a friend that goes by it/its and I’m struggling a bit
@@theultimatenerd9825 "this is my friend ____. it likes ____"
"its art is cool ! you should check it out"
@@theultimatenerd9825 I thought I had replied already, but here are some examples.
"this is my friend, its name is ___"
"it likes ___ & ___"
"it said so itself"
Love from your Christian Non-Binary friend! 💚 Latest break through in my Church was the Pastor now uses some gender neutral pronouns, and I'm going to be able to chat to Bible Study leaders about how to be respectful and understanding of LGBTQIA+ identities!
Genesis 1:27
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 Genesis 1:5,10. By just quoting sections like this, you'll see that it is possible to argue that God didn't make the shoreline, nor do dawn and dusk exist. God made me, and I am non binary. God loves me, and I love Him.
James 3:7-9
God bless!
I think a certain hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy quote comes to mind: "why can't we all just he nice to each other for a change"
I wish transphobes could understand this.
That would be nice, and maybe we'd get to the point of understanding the question and know why the answer is 42.
Know where your towel is and don't panic
"Why can't we all just be nice to each other for a change?" -One man who was then nailed to a tree
Is calling people transphobes for speaking the truth, "nice"?
@@catalyst3713probably because all you know is hate, coward.
The crab only ever watches trans positive tik toks.
ok, then go watch those instead?
Thank you crab mesiah, *very cool 👍*
What a cool crab
By the gods, a crab! Not just that, but a messiah of crabs, too!
Thank you crab, the only god I will worship amen
omg the jk rowling thing. people have died from her saying those transphobic things.
The thing is that it's not just gender that's a spectrum, sex is too. science doesn't deal in binaries. there are intersex people and people with different chromosomes and hormone levels and sex characteristics; *it is not, and has never been, a binary system.* we package these characteristics into the boxes of "male" and "female" but really, there are a thousand things in-between, and gender has nothing to do with any of them. i've heard people say before that intersex people are a miniscule percentage of the population and you shouldn't judge based on outliers, but they're roughly about as common as redheads, and we don't sit around saying the only natural hair colors are brown, blond, and black. you can argue semantics on tiktok all day long but the truth of it is that nothing, no matter how small or how cosmic, will *ever* fully fit into the labels we give them, because the world wasn't meant for that.
About as common as readheads if you use an overly broad definition that's mostly unambiguous females with late-onset hyperandrogenism
i have all of the harry potter books and i am trans the one thing i do that i find funny is i put a pride flag over the author name when they are on the shelf so it doesnt ruin my bedroom
slay move
I have all my Harry Potter stuff, movies, books. And I am trans. I literally grew up with it. The author is loony but Im not letting her ruin my love for Harry Potter
I did one further. I gave away all my physical copy books ages ago just to save the space and weight when moving. Her true nature was not well known then, especially not to me. But now that I know she's transgender? I certainly don't plan to buy them again, but they're still nostalgic for me. So... Arr, me hearties, let's sail the seven seas and still enjoy ye olde story without supportin' that bilgerat author!
@@animeartist888 JK Rowling is transgender? I didn't know that!
JKR is not transgender, she is transphobic 😢
Science has shown us that light is a spectrum. We regularly refer to degrees of autism as being on the spectrum. I think we need to realize that gender is also a spectrum and that a lot of things we have traditionally tried to classify as one thing or another are likely on a scale as well. It's going to be a long hard road for a lot of people to get to acceptance, unfortunately.
That last one is WEIRD. Does he think that people are giving HRT to 6 yr olds???? Because that isn't happening.
And yes, kids have been getting puberty blockers for precocious puberty since at least the 1980s. In the late 90s/early 00s, I worked for a paediatric endocrinologist who had several patients with precocious puberty who were treated with puberty blockers. This was standard treatment. Does that guy think it's okay for a 3 year old girl to be starting puberty???
so the kids has hormone blockers so then they do hrt while they reach puberty, right? If that's the case, it makes sense why so many people get confused how trans kids work
In case anyone wants to know an easy example of "cis" outside gender issues: high school organic chem class and 8th grade bio. Trans and cis fats. Olive oil is cis, beef tallow is trans.
Trans fat is what I want to have on my hips.
I think people think cis is a slur because the use trans as one.
It's more so the word cis seems unnecessary.
@@cole5669 is "women and not trans women" better for you?
@@LycanKai14So like "black and normal kids" or how was that?
@@cole5669 It only seems unnecessary to people who think the existence of trans people should be invisible or eliminated.
@@waffles3629 No, it would be woman and men and then trans men and trans women. Your reply is stating that trans women are biological women/females and they just aren't.
Watching this while playing an all Queer colony in Rimworld who worships IKEA furniture. I love mods.
“Rimworld” 🤨
I'm playing Dyson Sphere Program, I can't have mod, though, because I want the achievements (and my computer can't handle mods anyways)
I’m sorry but I always giggle when my son says he’s playing Rimworld! (I’m a very juvenile 57 year old)😂
@@charlottesmom To be fair, that IS a suspicious name. Super fun game though.
@@anomalyfox5186 My son loves it! 👍🏻👍🏻
I love how some of these people look at trans people and go "you guys got the minimum effort you guys are fully accepted and should shut up already". Like it is normal to have legislation out there to erase your existence, for people forming organizations to hate you, to feel uncomfortable using basic facilities in person, to have to weigh your identity against how difficult things are being out and most importantly face the daily possibility of being killed. That these are just "life" and things people deal with. That we should be happy with what? Nothing? Nothing because they are all mad about like any little thing we get including the right to the basic humanization of language including using our names and pronouns. Things other people take for granted.
Also still mad. The most medically invasive thing we suggest for kids is puberty blockers which are reversible other than that when we talk about trans kids we are talking social transition and like people are purposefully conflating the two. Like oh no Suzy wants to wear a dress and play on the girl's volleyball team and is upset that she gets misgendered. This is somehow medically irreversible.
I'm non-binary, and I absolutely HATE it when some kid in my school asks "Why can't you just pick a gender?"
I can give you my gender, if you want /s
Like? No thanks! ^_^ *flips the kids off cutely*
Being offended by the term cis is being wordphobic
Lol
You know what I am not going to be able to watch this. I have a trans child and to me this is total strangers hating on my baby (Um, he's 26, but still my baby).
🫡 Charlotte Innocent you have made my day much brighter
Wish my mom was like this instead of being transphobic.
Yeah, don't watch it. There's not much to gain from watching idiots so don't let it ruin your mood. I'm glad you support your child.
Supportive parents are so important!
And yeah, I'm trans, and I wasn't able to finish the video.
@@electronics-girl It's only a few a holes!
I'm a trans man who is in constant pain due to hurt, HOWEVER I'm working with my pcp to find solutions. I've become incontinent due to atrophy and it's an uncommon side effect of hormones that may not get mentioned in the beginning. So far adding in estrogen cream has been slowly improving the incontinence, but not the pain.
I still do NOT regret transitioning and wouldn't change what I've done at all. I'm not living my best life yet, but the positive changes are worth the struggle
I really, really hate how many people STILL insist that male/female are genders and gender and sex are the same thing. The Stonewall Riots were in 1969 for goodness sake! We've been moving toward LGBTQIA+ acceptance and equality for almost all of my mother's life and she's old enough to be retired. I was taught about the fact that there are many, many more than 2 genders in a first year level university class in 2007. I am female but I am not a woman. These words are not synonymous. They occur together very frequently, but they do not mean the same thing.
Female and woman aren't synonymous because female also includes non-human females and girls. But since you are an adult and presumably human, you are a woman. Don't see what the Stonewall riots have to do with anything.
That 1% regret detransition rate is potentially slightly misleading depending on phrasing.
It is good to point out that it is 1% of all detransitioners, not 1% of all trans people. The difference is that instead of being a fraction from a fraction, in reality it is a fraction from a fraction from a fraction.
In otherwords, you need thousands and thousands of trans people before you find one who will not only detransition, but does so due to regret.
Overall detransition rate would plummet with societal acceptance and I have a feeling it would also further reduce detransitions due to regret as well and not just due to societal pressure.
For medical transitioning overall of the 0.47% who detransition over 65% still identify as trans and either medically transitioning wasn't for them, they had rare health complications, ran out of money, or transphobic laws forced them to detransition, and of that 65% more then half will go on to retransition within 5 years.
Olson et al., 2022 found that 97.5% of kids who socially transition still identify at trans five years later.
The Lancet Journal of child and adolescent Health, Oct 20 2022, found 98% of trans teens taking hrt were still continuing their treatment five years later.
Skye Davies, Stephen McIntyre, Craig Rypma, 2019, "Detransition rates in a National UK Gender Identity Clinic, found that 0.47% of people who medically transition regret doing so.
Yep. Less than 1% of people detransition, and over half of them do so for reasons other than not being trans.
I'm going to have a hysterectomy within now and a few years. So I guess I'm not going to be a female anymore. Oh wait, I'm childless and already missing my tubes, so I guess i haven't been one for years now. Oh well 🤷♀️
No, it means you're a female with a medical problem. How dumb can you be? A man can't have that problem because he's a man. Simple biology.
No one would argue that you aren't a woman because you're having a hysterectomy.
I know cis women who've had hysterectomies or are infertile and this is so... wtf man transphobes are so aggravating.
HOW TO TRANSPHOBE LIKE A 'PRO':
1 - Disown your sense of humour. Seriously - get rid of it completely. It'll help you completely disregard when the LGBTQ+ community are *very obviously* joking and make your fake confusion/outrage look slightly more legit, AND it'll help you to fully embrace your own rage when you don't 'get' an LGBTQ+ joke. Oh and it'll also do wonders for making your 'humour' at the expense of LGBTQ+ people WAY more unfunny.
2 - Shun research and fact-checking of all kinds. They just get in the way of the transphobic points you're trying to make, and rolling your eyes, making stupid faces or simply saying "No, because I said so" will effectively shut any chance of reasoned debate down, provided you commit to it with the energy of a rejected X-Factor auditionee.
3 - Hold the word 'woke' close to your hate-filled heart. It will get you out of many an awkward situation - like when you find yourself in the middle of an argument you know you're crashing and burning in - just scream the word "WOKE!" at the top of your lungs, and whip out your special Transphobe Victim Card like a referee at a Milwall match. (Bonus points for following up with a dramatic flounce-off, muttering about a "woke agenda.")
5:24 “separating the art from the artist” is for artists who are dead and not making money from continued dissemination of their work, that they can then use to expand their platform from which they spew misinformation that actively harms people
Puberty blockers were originally made for cis kids back in the 70’s.
Sure hope Idahoans can recognize this...
@@catalyst3713🎶90% isn't a real statistic🎶
@@blubblewubble So you deny numerous studies indicating such?
look up "precocious puberty".
you know what else was available over the counter in the 70's? Amphetamines. For housewives. Who would then take benzo's to sleep.
@@catalyst3713*which you won't cite.
Just wanted to let everyine know i got a blåhaj today
That’s amazing! What did you name it?
Blåhajs are absolutely amazing :D
i love blåhajar
congrats :D
@@alicebthegachaweirdo8378 haven't decided yet, any suggestions
That second guy looks incredibly creepy. It's disappointing when gay men want to bash the Trans community to fit more into current society happens so often and is disappointing.
Saying that the press has the right to call you by the wrong gender or by the wrong name or say anything they want about you because of free speech ignores the fact that there are libel and slander laws in the U.S.
Speaking of Transphobia, I've officially filled a restraining order with my transphobic parents
I've won friends, enemies, and newcomers
"Friends, enemies, and newcomers" is a better gender neutral way to address a large number of people imo
@@TheWerewolfOfNorway-mf5jz Why???
@@gone_mad-tryagainlater Yeah that's good, I'm using that
But congrats on the restraining order, friend!
Ad victoriam, libertas aeterna
@@TheWerewolfOfNorway-mf5jz the irony of your username trying to be edgy about Noray when it is an incredibly inclusive country both legally and socially.
PS your transphobia has no place here, please leave.
5:15 I know of one way to enjoy art without suppourting the artist...
Piracy
Yar har, fiddle de dee, being a pirate is alright to be
Arrrrrr 🏴☠️
Arrrggg!! 🏴☠️
YARRRRR!!!! 🏴☠️
Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free. You are a pirate!
"Separate the art from the artist" should be reserved for "the artist is kind of a dick", not "the artist has crossed the line into literal holocaust denial in order to continue her crusade against a marginalised group."
"It takes a person with a uterus to have a baby. Only women have a uterus."
1. There are 2 intersex men I know of that have a penis and a uterus. One of them got married, had babies with his wife, and had periods through his penis. He didn't even find out he was intersex until age 40. The doctor told him, in theory, he could get pregnant. (The reason he didn't find out he was intersex until 40 is because he genuinely thought all men had periods)
2. I'm agender AFAB and was born with a uterus and could not get pregnant no matter how I tried. Phobic people would then tell me, "You're a woman because uterus." While also saying, "Getting pregnant makes you a woman."
3. I recently had a hysterectomy. These same phobes would tell me, "You don't have a uterus, so you're a man." while also saying, "You mutilated your body just to not be a woman." when my hysterectomy saved my life.
4. There was a woman born with a vagina who developed boobs and looked and identified as a woman but never started her period. At 18, she got examined and found out she was born without a uterus and had xy chromosomes. Instantly, all the guys who thought she was hot started calling her a man because of her chromosomes.
5. I have a friend who is intersex. She has boobs, a penis, and xxy chromosomes.
perfect thing to watch on a walk
3:17 not to go on a tangent but why are we still doing this? that essay from a few years ago was mostly about trans men being "tricked" and condescending to them in a weird way while also dehumanising them and treating them like scum. one of the first transphobic tweets of hers that most people paid attention to was erasing and misgendering trans men. she buys into the anti-transmasc crap just as much as the anti-transfem stuff at least.
man, can we stop pretending jk is completely focused on specifically trans women?
Fr her attacks on trans men are just as aggressive and relentless
I think people are noticing her anti-transfem stuff more because trans women are the current biggest target of bigots
All those transphobes would be royally pissed if someone would use the wrong pronouns for them and yet they think that trans people should be fine with it.
I'm fortunate enough that I'm fine with my afab pronouns (as agender) so it doesn't bother me to still be referred to as she/her & Miss etc - though I do have a good amount of gender dysphoria about certain parts of my body so sadly it's not all well.
I feel for those in the trans community that have to deal with this stuff.. I sometimes see comments that are pretty mean spirited and ignorant and it truly hurt me to see. (I stay off of social media for the most part, because I can't deal with all the hate)
Whoever reads this: I love you.
If there are people that can hate for no reason, it means that I can love for no reason.
I love you too!! And I agree with everything you said. 🥰
Exactly, they squirm at it. I do it because it is funny.
Glad someone else said it. Like they really don't think this applies to them?
In my country there was a politician that was talking ridicule about people having preffered pronounce, because of some kind of bug the system gave everyone he/she/they behind their name on the goverment website, she was angry and wanted to be called she.
An other person said they should have know our party only has people with he/him pronounces in the goverment, they are religous and think women shouldn't be in politics.
It was fixed realy fast.
Genuinely though, any sort of medical transition under the age of 18 is going to affect the individual, because your body is still growing and developing in that stage. There's a reason that under 18s aren't allowed, by law, to make certain choices. It doesn't make their experience invalid or anything, but we can't ignore the fact that human brains (when it comes to rational decision making) aren't fully developed at that stage in life. I know lots of people from my teen years that thought they were gay or bi, then realised they were straight or vis versa. I know a few that thought they might be trans, socially transitioned, but now they're just identifying as the gender they were born in.
I empathise with how horrible gender dysphoria would be, but I think there's a middle here. I don't think the answer is to just let under 18s do anything medically.
Puberty blockers are technically a form of medical transitioning, but are harmless and reversible.
@@katyamcadamsyep, ignore the evidence and listen to Dr Katya on the internet who has 5 random sources to back any outlandish claims.
@@daddydeadly3428you still haven't an hero-ed. What's wrong mommy? Chicken?
@@katyamcadams Then why did the NHS have to take that claim down?
@@daddydeadly3428 They're not even really sources
separating art from artist = piracy imo. I still enjoy HP but actively avoid putting even a penny in JKR's pocket
Same I did just Wright a wholeass paragraph abt it in a comment tho...haha..😅😅😅😅
People misunderstand the First Amendment all the time. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference. It's not a private person's right to slander or hate another person with no consequence. Words matter.
Slander isn’t protected but “hate” is
universe send me strength i despise this tik tok eyebrow man with all my being 😭
28:37 Is... she trying to say that she only transitioned because it was easier or more accepted than being a lesbian? And that that has something to do with the young man she's responding to?
Listen lmao, I'm turning 34 in a couple months and realized I was trans when I was 20. I identify as a gay man. If it wasn't for society in the 90's and 2000's preaching trans men as the next step after being a super-huge mega lesbian, I would have been able to transition in my teens and maybe even get on puberty blockers! It just took me so long to recognize myself because I'm *not* attracted to women!
Idk what kinda world this ppl live in in witch being trans is more accapted than being gay, out of like 200 countries, I can name maybe 5 in witch being trans is more accapted than being gay. Even in places that hate both, usually gay is hated a bit less hated
In addition to what u said, one of my trans friends is aro ace, so he had no attraction as an "influence" to his gender, and ofc the example u gave, of gay trans ppl, and like jammie, bi trans people
In a textbook I was reading for school had a really good definition for gender. So the writer of the section is a trans man and he said that all men have a sense of themselves as men. I think the book is called readings for diversity and social justice.
Being yourself is the best way and i recently came out myself, i am finally me in all ways.
Im so happy for you!😊
I'm so happy for you!😊
You’ve always been yourself
Currently moving out to get away from my Transphobic mom. It's difficult, but I'm pushing through.
Take care 💜
So proud of you for protecting yourself and doing what's best! I hope things improve for you astronomically, kiddo!
Rowling is horrible as a person, but I can't let that ruin the Harry Potter that helped shape who I am as a person. I internalized that world. I lived in it. I wrote fanfiction that took it to completely different spaces. That experience and the world I created in myself belongs to ME, not Rowling. I cannot and will not let her or anyone else take that away from me.
I could write multiple essays on the topic of why the themes of Harry Potter are, unto themselves, very much against the hateful rhetoric she spews about trans people. A transphobe wrote it, but that doesn't mean that the content itself agrees.
Besides that, almost any historical and culturally formative literature is going to contain reflections of evil stereotypes and bigotry. If you can't separate art from artist, you've basically stopped yourself from learning about anything written more than 30 years ago. Tolkien, for instance, was a wonderful person by the standards of his time and he wouldn't be a racist today, but his work still contains shadows of anti-Black sentiment. That doesn't stop LoTR from being a beautiful depiction of love and growth and spirituality at the same time that it's racist.
We need to look at any piece of literature with nuance, because nuance is embedded in all art. No text is black-or-white, completely perfect OR completely evil, and it's OUR responsibility to discern what that means for us as readers. I wouldn't directly support Rowling by purchasing Harry Potter merchandise at this point, but I can still love and talk about her work because of my personal, unique experience with it, which has absolutely no relation to Rowling's transphobia.
I highly recommend Shaun’s video on him deconstructing the HP books and how Joanne’s own biases ended up in the text (and very much proves that her content reflects her views) if you’re into that kind of media analysis, it’s super interesting. Not trying to change your mind or whatever, I can’t say I really understand as I’m personally working myself to a place I can burn the damn books because she’s so irrevocably tainted it and I want to gain that part of my child back from her but if you’re not financially supporting her, then go nuts, I’m happy you had some bright spark in your life that she gave you. Despite being a walking bin bag.
Tolkien is dead and cannot profit off of his work, nor continue to talk about whatever racist views he had or influence the mass amount of transphobes that jowling kowling Rowling has. Joanne is sadly still on this mortal coil and until she decides to shuffle off of it, I cannot even think about engaging with her media, knowing how much she wants me to not exist and is funding just that.
Separating art from the artist is a literary device for analysis, not a social one like it’s often used. I guess it could be applied to some of what you’re saying, but whether people choose to keep engaging with that human toilet brush’s work is very much up to them and not some implied failure of being able to compartmentalise. It’s a false equivalency to imply that because we are more lenient to dead and old authors, we should be to She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, because until she blessedly joins their ranks and we don’t have to hear from her anymore, it’s not the same at all. Maybe I’m coming off harsh towards her and, honestly I don’t care if I am, but I genuinely wish you many more happy hours with the series that I cannot have anymore.
@@Dancinglemon Thank you for the thoughtful response! I definitely get where you're coming from, and I will check out Shaun's breakdown of the books.
I don't think I was entirely clear in saying that yes, the HP books employ stereotypes and weird, problematic themes at times. Like the house elves enjoying their enslavement, for instance. My argument would be that a) most media does that, even today, and b) the overarching themes of love and loyalty and non-judgment tend to outweigh the problematic aspects of Harry Potter, at least in my opinion. There is an ideological conflict within the content of the books, and a nuanced take on the series should acknowledge both.
The question of separating art from artist is definitely complicated. But I do think it serves us, not just in academic analysis, but also in our capacity to enjoy and fully understand an artwork. Living or dead, everyone has some bad viewpoints. I'd rather not let that prevent me from seeing the beautiful sides of whatever they create. That doesn't mean ignoring the problems, but it does mean accepting that, no matter what the creator intended, art can speak to us on its own terms.
Out of curiosity, have you ever read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad? That has to be one of the most nuanced stories I've ever encountered, and the critical responses to it vary wildly in their interpretation of its take on colonization. But for me, none of that is the point. Reading it is a beautiful, otherworldly experience that has its own meaning for me today. My experience is completely detached from what the author was trying to say to his own time and place. Trying to discern Conrad's own viewpoint is part of the fun, but it's not necessary to one's enjoyment of the story itself. Whether Conrad was for or against colonization is a huge determining factor in whether he was a good person, but it has nothing to do with the quality of his writing. Despite Rowling still being alive, I think the same principle ultimately applies to HP as well.
The other day this kid was being transphobic abt my partner (not maliciously but still icky) and he ended up quoting the Bible verse about homosexuality being a sin lmao, unsurprisingly he also works at chickfilla
My new favourite response to bigots using the Bible as a defence is to quote a random other book (my choice is the Gruffalo), followed by, "see, I can quote a book too, and it has just as much evidence as existing as your book". It tends to shut them up. 😂
@@KrimsonKattYTGalatians 3:28 is great
That's why I refuse to eat at Chick-fil-A. I don't care how much people rave about how much they love their food, I'm hot spending my hard-earned cash to support homophobia and transphobia. I won't set foot in a Hobby Lobby for the same reason.
Ah, gotta "love" people using "Don't assault children" verses as "Gay bad".
Ah yes quote the thing about gay people to argue against trans people genius!!