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  • On Get Up, Mike Greenberg is joined by Jay Williams, Tim Legler and Brian Windhorst to talk through what's next for the Lakers in regards to their head coaching search.
    0:00 Hear from Michael Wilbon on PTI
    0:30 Was Darvin Ham the Lakers’ scapegoat?
    3:40 Lakers’ prospects
    5:40 Windy floats a few potential options
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  • @danny5534
    @danny5534 Před 12 dny +193

    I love how these "analysts" are saying the roster was flawed with a serious face when they were all singing praise for Rob Pelinka after the offseason. HYPOCRITES

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 Před 12 dny +16

      These clowns are paid to praise the Lakers..

    • @joebucketsTV
      @joebucketsTV Před 12 dny +9

      Nah they aren’t hypocrites, they just don’t know basketball at all. They’re casuals being paid to discuss something they have no idea about. Not saying everyone who has played basketball at a high-level can break it down analytically, but MOST can do it better than someone who’s never dribbled a ball in their life (edit: J-Will is often a hypocrite though like you said)

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot Před 12 dny +2

      I love how y'all think someone should get credit off an early season prediction when it fizzles...yet again... in the playoffs. Pelinka gets some blame but this nonsense all started when they went all in on Westbrook and that was LeBron's doing much as anyone

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 Před 12 dny +4

      @@I.am_Groot naw! Rob didn’t want to pay rondo, Dwight or McGee so they settled for Westbrook..

    • @imaginatewithdad-n-me5245
      @imaginatewithdad-n-me5245 Před 12 dny +1

      Absolutely. They picked the Lakers to be 2nd under Nuggets

  • @kingridwan
    @kingridwan Před 12 dny +26

    Finally someone acknowledging Ham rotation problem. Jay W!

    • @ryanbarnes840
      @ryanbarnes840 Před 12 dny

      THAT ALONE DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. Stop trying to pretend like you know what you're talking about.

    • @karanbird239
      @karanbird239 Před 12 dny +4

      @@ryanbarnes840 yes that alone doesnt there are other things like lack of timeouts when the other team goes on runs and inability to make in game adjustments. 100% of blame should not go on Darvin but i feel that another coach would clean up some of these voids that Darvin had, and it may have just been becuz of his experience level coming into the job

    • @jusbertmeza4424
      @jusbertmeza4424 Před 6 dny

      @@karanbird239 casuals only watch highlights and pretend to know what they are talking about. Darvin Ham was THE problem for the lakers this year. He had terrible lineups trying to “experiment in game” with wing only lineups with Bron running point. He never bothered to try to play Wood and AD together. When AD had the few games he missed he started JAXSON HAYES over Christian Wood. He started Tauren Prince with 38 min games over Rui Hachimura for the first 50 games with like 8pts a game and Rui was outscoring him with only 12mins a game. Oh and thats before i even get to hes the worst game manager Ive ever seen he regularly lost games with big leads and several unused timeouts and challenges. The Denver series just showed everyone else the small improvements they could’ve made to change the whole series.

  • @FreshWitcher
    @FreshWitcher Před 12 dny +30

    Kobe on ESPN: "I've known for a long time that they're a bunch of idiots."

    • @Ayo_Bruh22
      @Ayo_Bruh22 Před 12 dny +1

      Na lebum and ADisney is the problem and the roster filled with nobodies

    • @anthonyames6708
      @anthonyames6708 Před 9 dny

      Lebron and ad not the problem it’s management

  • @Daausby
    @Daausby Před 12 dny +98

    Finally an analyst is saying what others are afraid to say!…it’s about time!

    • @samcar2724
      @samcar2724 Před 12 dny +26

      You didn't watch the Lakers lil bro clearly

    • @jamaledwards4755
      @jamaledwards4755 Před 12 dny +15

      @@samcar2724I watched the Lakers all season. Im a die hard Lakers fan. Lebron and AD need to take accountability. So be quiet, you don’t know basketball. Lebron doesn’t like to be held accountable.

    • @thedragonarmy4700
      @thedragonarmy4700 Před 12 dny +13

      You clearly didn’t watch the lakers. Wilbon should have some idea what context is. I could write 7 paragraphs on my why as a bad coach.

    • @filippobacci3443
      @filippobacci3443 Před 12 dny +5

      ​@@jamaledwards4755you saw the two stars play almost 80 game, average over 25 ppg+ while having to play in lineups constisting of CAM reddish and Vanderbilt. Every LA beatwriter posted articles abt literally the entire Locker room coaching themselves to finish the season cause all ham would say was that they needed to play harder, faster ecc. Roster was flawed but he's not and NBA level coach. Both things can be true

    • @pavlegrebenarevic382
      @pavlegrebenarevic382 Před 12 dny +1

      @@jamaledwards4755 If you watched the games you'd knew how bad Ham is

  • @kingofjune
    @kingofjune Před 12 dny +101

    Personally, I think LeCoach is the best hire for the Lakers available.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +2

      Personally, Id much rather see LeSkippy Bayless or one of his wannabes get the job. You know you guys are desperate to get close to Bron. Hes your obsession. lol

    • @Desnond
      @Desnond Před 12 dny

      @@Nostalgia9478 🤡

    • @Maxrepfitgm
      @Maxrepfitgm Před 12 dny

      You're pathetic ​@@Nostalgia9478

    • @kingofjune
      @kingofjune Před 12 dny +2

      @@Nostalgia9478 I agree, LeSkip would tell LeBron every game to "punish down low and penetrate everyone down the lane"

    • @Maxrepfitgm
      @Maxrepfitgm Před 12 dny

      ​@@Nostalgia9478Says the guy who is obsessed with protecting Lebron

  • @CBabeey
    @CBabeey Před 12 dny +66

    Wilbon, like others in the media, don’t watch the games. They just talk. You can always tell. Anyone who watched all the Lakers games this season know Darvin Ham has cost the team some games this season. His lineups, rotations, not using timeouts when the other team goes on runs, his obsession with a 3 guard lineup, etc. Pelinka has a hand in this too, as he hasn’t done enough to build a better team. But the players frustrations with him are valid. Trying to blame Bron and AD for Ham’s lack of awareness is crazy.

    • @waynemyrie57
      @waynemyrie57 Před 12 dny +2

      Exactly

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly Před 12 dny +5

      spittin this is why people are moving away from these media "analyst" its just talking points for views.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +5

      A decent coach wouldve led the Lakers to 55+ wins this season

    • @113tmt
      @113tmt Před 12 dny +3

      @@SolaceMcfly Exactly why I tune into Lakersnation and listen to their take because like me they watch all the games and actually see the issues Darvin presented....awful at calling timeouts, bad at challenging, bad at rotations, bad at maximizing skillsets, etc. Yes, the players also had issues for sure but it was clear that Darvin cost them at least 3 to 6 more wins in the regular season and did his part in these two Denver series to cost them wins.

    • @thekingbradable
      @thekingbradable Před 12 dny +13

      So let’s go down the list
      Walton was the problem
      Vogel was the problem
      Ham was the problem
      Seems like the coach is always the scapegoat. Ever considered the Lakers just aren’t very good compared to the rest of the West?
      I’m sure in another two years you’ll be blaming the coach again. No accountability amongst Lakers fans and players. Sad.

  • @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC
    @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC Před 12 dny +24

    Defending Darvin Ham is super proof that you didn’t watch Lakers games.

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Před 12 dny +6

      And if you did you clearly see he has nothing to do with Lebron waiting till game 3 to drive the ball in the 4th quarter instead of settling for threes

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 Před 12 dny +2

      “Super proof” wow what a way to express yourself 😂

    • @ryanbarnes840
      @ryanbarnes840 Před 12 dny

      Wrong. It's proof that you watch the games and realize that the Lakers stars were streaky all year...that's not coaching.

    • @justified004
      @justified004 Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@ryanbarnes840wrong. No one is giving LeBron or AD a pass but Ham had a number of glaring issues. Horrible lineups, lack of adjustments, and poor game management. All those issues are on Ham and don't get me started on him being repeatedly outcoached or him repeatedly blowing leads all year.

    • @SportscadiaProductions
      @SportscadiaProductions Před 12 dny

      I put more blame on Lebron and Rob Pelinka

  • @KozyKool2287
    @KozyKool2287 Před 12 dny +7

    Man, no coach in their right mind is going to take this job because there is no job security.
    Firing a 2nd year coach for losing to the defending champs is wild.
    Nuggets were tied for the 2nd best record in the league, there is no shame in losing to them.

  • @waynemyrie57
    @waynemyrie57 Před 12 dny +10

    Wilbon is emotional because him and D-Ham are friends. You can’t watch the Lakers and not clearly see they had bad coaching

  • @mrgetitdone85
    @mrgetitdone85 Před 12 dny +73

    Basically being the coach of a lebron James lead team u get no glory but all of the blame

    • @limitedbom2206
      @limitedbom2206 Před 12 dny +20

      That’s everything with lebron. Teammates, coaches, everyone gets no credit if they win, but if they lose then it’s trade everyone, lebron needs help, fire the coach. Thad’s peoples goat, no accountability.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +11

      Spo and Ty Lue got glory coaching Bron

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 Před 12 dny +4

      lol facts cause his fanboys love to make excuses

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Před 12 dny +1

      And $$$$

    • @Savsgge
      @Savsgge Před 12 dny

      History favors winners. Those lineups were not winning line up

  • @thepapichulo_07
    @thepapichulo_07 Před 12 dny +43

    defending darvin ham is insane

    • @jamaledwards4755
      @jamaledwards4755 Před 12 dny +10

      No it’s not fool. This is not all on Darvin. You don’t know basketball. Be quiet. Rob needs be fired and Lebron needs to take accountability.

    • @thedragonarmy4700
      @thedragonarmy4700 Před 12 dny +1

      Just indoors who didn’t watch the games

    • @thedragonarmy4700
      @thedragonarmy4700 Před 12 dny

      @@jamaledwards4755no dummy you don’t know basketball! Yes Rob needs to be fired too! Darvin was bad! Started Cam reddish for how many games? He’s not even an nba player at this point. Played T.prince all those starter minutes when he’s a good bench player. They had a horrible record then. When they switched to Rui then when like 27-6 or something. Why did he bench his best players in the beginning of the season. Why doesn’t he use his timeouts even tho he said he saved them so Lebron and AD can get rest. He still leaves games with both! I could go on and on….stop the nonsense. Why did he play Spencer and Gabe vs Denver 5 minutes each? Why not stick to 1 for 10minutes so at least 1 can get a rhythm. Why did reaves only play 34mins that last game when he was cooking? He gave Spencer those minutes. Even reaves on the beach was throwing his hands up saying “what are we doing here?”. Is there a reason the team would stop running plays every 3rd quarter in the playoffs??? They’d just be freelancing. That’s coaching! That’s why they lost all those leads! I watch every game.

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Před 12 dny +1

      Thinking he the reason they lost is insane as well! Get help bruh

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +2

      @@jamaledwards4755Youre clearly putting your butthurt feelings over the FACTS
      Dopey Darvin was BY FAR the WORST Nba head coach of all time whether you accept reality or not

  • @Desnond
    @Desnond Před 12 dny +34

    Will Rob be held accountable…?will lakers fans keep the same energy with Rob…?

    • @mrgetitdone85
      @mrgetitdone85 Před 12 dny +11

      According to lakers fans Rob had the best offseason… now everyone saying the roster is trash

    • @FDANEEDACPAP
      @FDANEEDACPAP Před 12 dny +7

      They can't. They are too busy saying Lebron runs everything. Lebron ok'd NOT originally hiring Ty Lue?
      They pick and choose when Rob is held accountable.

    • @xmobkilla9067
      @xmobkilla9067 Před 12 dny +4

      You can't blam rob. Everybody said they had the best off-season. every show they were giving him A. Now he did a bad job. That makes no sense.

    • @Jay_Loading
      @Jay_Loading Před 12 dny

      Rob does a good job. Sure he’s made a couple mistakes (Not trading DLo at the deadline) but i think it’s cause of the 3 1sts situation (3 1st round picks available) Team looked good on paper at the beginning of the season then gave got injured and players like Taurean Prince and Cam Reddish were playing 30 min a game and starting

    • @theposterking3553
      @theposterking3553 Před 12 dny +1

      I don't like A kobe guys running lebrons last years

  • @pauladams2489
    @pauladams2489 Před 12 dny +52

    They gotta fire their GM

    • @eddiethom4911
      @eddiethom4911 Před 12 dny +13

      Lakers GM is LeBum

    • @Desnond
      @Desnond Před 12 dny +7

      Lakers fan don’t wanna talk about this…!

    • @DaReaperGang
      @DaReaperGang Před 12 dny +2

      @@eddiethom4911yeah that makes sense

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Před 12 dny +1

      Exactly he hired a rookie head coach

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot Před 12 dny +3

      @@Desnond NBA fans just realize that Rob was not the guy pushing for that awful Westrbook trade. J Buss and LeBron been calling these big moves so firing the GM ain't changing anything

  • @mykey06
    @mykey06 Před 12 dny +6

    Roster flawed? Beginning of the summer they were like the Lakers won the free agency.

    • @derek4101
      @derek4101 Před 12 dny

      And when they won the inaugural In season tournament, they were the team to beat in the West.

  • @samsebai4265
    @samsebai4265 Před 12 dny +4

    Jay is absolutely right. Wilbon gave a general, lazy take defending a guy he likes. The reason Ham was able to “take” them to a WC final last year was because Pelinka made that roster much more compatible by the deadline than the horror show he assembled at the beginning of the year. Darvin Ham is a good dude, but he’s a horrible head coach. Terrible and flaky rotations, doesn’t get or force the ball to AD enough in clutch moments (he’s actually joked about this in a press conference), has the worst feel for timeouts I’ve ever seen from a coach and just generally is overmatched.

  • @1muneymic
    @1muneymic Před 12 dny +33

    Darvin Ham didn’t deserve to get fired. And I don’t want to hear that roster junk, when last off season y’all said they won the off season

    • @danielwhite5298
      @danielwhite5298 Před 12 dny +8

      You didn’t watch any games this season

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +8

      Dopey Darvin was BY FAR the WORST Nba head coach of all time and 100 pct deserved to be fired

    • @Desnond
      @Desnond Před 12 dny +1

      @@Nostalgia9478 Rob one of the worst GM he still keeps his job lol y’all even praise him

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +2

      @@Desnond Desperately deflecting doesnt change the FACT that Dopey Darvin waa BY FAR the WORST Nba head coach of all time. lol

    • @Desnond
      @Desnond Před 12 dny +2

      @@Nostalgia9478 I never said darvin is a good coach all I’m sayin.. you laker fanboys forget the whole point is to get better not blame people.. darvin isn’t the only person who needs to be fired…until you guys understand that get use to new rosters fumbling good players losing and scapegoating..

  • @bryanstarke2931
    @bryanstarke2931 Před 12 dny +10

    We all know LeGM called Jeanie Buss and told her to instruct Pelinka to get rid of Ham. You know it, we all know it.

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot Před 12 dny

      Bron pushed for or at very least wanted the Westbrook move. Ham came along because no established coach wanted the job. This is and will be a 'Bron issue first and foremost

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +2

      @@I.am_Groot If it was up to MJ, Charles Oakley never gets traded for Cartwright, and the Bulls never bring in Kukoc.. Jerry Krause ignored MJ
      Good Gms owners dont allow players to ductate moves. The Westbrick trade 100 pct ultimately falls on management
      Bron wanted Ty Lue in 2019.. Funny how management can say NO to Bron when it comes to the right moves, yet agreed to the Westbrick trade
      Its almost like Bron doesnt have all the power after all
      hmmmmmm

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot Před 12 dny

      @@Nostalgia9478 You don't follow LeGM do ya? Lol

    • @SilentMovements305
      @SilentMovements305 Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@Nostalgia9478you kno bron n ad had Westbrook at lebrons house the season they got Westbrook they recruited that man let's not play ignorant or the delusional mind games the main problem is lebron james simple as that

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot Před 12 dny +1

      @@SilentMovements305 You got facts on this one and the MJ days were different Pippen was told to sit down, shut up, and take pennies while Rodman got a Brinks truck. Try that today and the media frenzy alone would cause the Bulls to move off it or trade somebody

  • @kouleeofficial
    @kouleeofficial Před 12 dny +5

    And next year they gonna say about their new coach “it’s his first year, he needs to get familiar with the team” without blaming the team

  • @siba2379
    @siba2379 Před 12 dny +7

    "I've known Darvin Ham for a long time" we know why you're sticking up for Darvin Scam old man

  • @TodTatney
    @TodTatney Před 12 dny +3

    Wilbon Told the truth.

  • @repentyasharahla7632
    @repentyasharahla7632 Před 12 dny +7

    Kobe Bryant was coached by Del Harris, Kirt Rambis, Rudy Tomjanvich, Mike Brown, Mike Dantoni, Byron Scott, Frank Hamblin and he only won with PHIL JACKSON.

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot Před 12 dny

      How many A list coaches ever stepped up to take on a LeBron led team? Anyone

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +2

      @@I.am_Groot Ty Lue and Spo

    • @repentyasharahla7632
      @repentyasharahla7632 Před 12 dny

      @@I.am_Groot A list coaches are already employed

    • @repentyasharahla7632
      @repentyasharahla7632 Před 12 dny

      @@I.am_Groot A list coaches are never available they stay employed

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot Před 12 dny +1

      @@repentyasharahla7632 Blah blah blah coaches not available over 20+ years? LeBron never once choosing to move teams where an established coach is employed? Let's be grown ups and look at it for what it is

  • @gametourny4ever627
    @gametourny4ever627 Před 12 dny +7

    You need a strong presence like Pat Riley to tell Lebron to stfu and go out and play and listen to the coach that he has in place because that is the coach. Period. Miami is the only place this stuff didn’t happen because the Buck stops with Pat Riley.

    • @allanawanyo4966
      @allanawanyo4966 Před 12 dny +1

      Listen to a coach who fiddles when there’s a timeout and can’t draw up a play

    • @allanawanyo4966
      @allanawanyo4966 Před 12 dny +1

      And see how much Miami has achieved since lebron left

    • @gametourny4ever627
      @gametourny4ever627 Před 12 dny +2

      @@allanawanyo4966 I would say not too bad all things considered. Yeah they haven’t won a title but they have gotten to the finals and consistently made the playoffs. What LeBron won two titles, one of which was a bubble title and the other he got lucky cause Draymond got suspended for the rest of the finals. Gtfoh

    • @abzda1700
      @abzda1700 Před 12 dny

      @@gametourny4ever627😂😂😂 why can’t Miami get lucky and win one do you celebrate finals appearances or not

  • @rasadami2968
    @rasadami2968 Před 12 dny +12

    Of course Jay W would say no…

    • @lionpaw9118
      @lionpaw9118 Před 12 dny +2

      Jay is a horrible analyst

    • @Andrew-qd3pf
      @Andrew-qd3pf Před 12 dny

      Feeling analyst

    • @pavlegrebenarevic382
      @pavlegrebenarevic382 Před 12 dny

      Maybe because he has seen his bad coaching, no timeout calling, no adjustments, bad rotations lmaoo Jay Will pissed on them

    • @strangerthanparadise
      @strangerthanparadise Před 12 dny

      He’s just another bronsexual, Klutch mouthpiece, LeBron lapdog

  • @dsdddsd4543we
    @dsdddsd4543we Před 12 dny +25

    Darvin Ham needed at least one more season. The Timberwolves beating Denver shows that there is a hunger issue with LA. They have to play better.

    • @milosmomcilovic4166
      @milosmomcilovic4166 Před 12 dny +4

      Beating?The won one,i am not saying that dont have a chanse,but Minesota have a better roster,i would take ANT over LBJ and AD right now, especially with AD getting injured so easily after a bump form MPJ... Best defence in NBA,a true pg in Conley,6th man....

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +2

      Too bad reality vehemently disagrees with you
      Dopey Darvin was BY FAR the WORST Nba head coach of all time
      Wolves winning game 1 just proves how horrible a coach Dopey Darvin is

    • @Scotty2Hotty4
      @Scotty2Hotty4 Před 12 dny

      @@Nostalgia9478wait let me give some context. I do agree with you half way just a different point. Jay Williams Is right on what he said. If you agree with him then say less! Darvin Ham made no adjustments. I like Darvin Ham there’s accountability all over… But I can sit here and say even casual fans could see Rotation, Rebounding, and shooting were a problem. Rebounding that’s on players but you can debunk that with adding Hayes more minutes and chemistry he didn’t do that. I could really break down a lot thag nobody could even argue down.

    • @DaReaperGang
      @DaReaperGang Před 12 dny

      If darvin would’ve stayed for another year the lakers chances of a title would’ve been dropped tremendously. I don’t know if you guys are lebron haters or just casuals but Darvin literally never took accountability this entire season, he doesn’t hold players accountable, he’s way too passive, he doesn’t draw up plays, there’s a actual video out there lebron telling everyone to give him the board….

    • @Scotty2Hotty4
      @Scotty2Hotty4 Před 12 dny +1

      @@DaReaperGang thank you. Too many post game interviews where he saying “it’s make or miss league” or “you have to tip Your hats to them” like Darvin always gives the other team credit. And quit the unloading projection by saying “we have to be better”

  • @CoolTy23
    @CoolTy23 Před 12 dny +3

    1. David Adelman
    2. Kenny Atkinson
    3. Chris Quinn
    4. Mike Budenholzer

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot Před 12 dny

      Mike B the only option if they want an established coach that can handle the roster. Newbies are going to continue to fail as Bron will step in and take over when they aren't doing everything his way

    • @derek4101
      @derek4101 Před 12 dny

      Jarron Collins

  • @prod2one
    @prod2one Před 12 dny +2

    Idk y’all need to watch Legendz video Ham couldn’t even draw up a play at times lol.

  • @gbone1812
    @gbone1812 Před 12 dny +3

    We here talking bout a Cancun team

  • @blueprint2463
    @blueprint2463 Před 12 dny +1

    Great segment on the Lakers as it relates to their view on coaches , make them pay a high cost for a coaching team , if not let them coach themselves

  • @dsdddsd4543we
    @dsdddsd4543we Před 12 dny +1

    The Laker's offseason moves last year were great, but some significant issues were involved. Gabe Vincent was supposed to replace Schroder, but his injury messed up a crucial rotation. Last year, Schroder started and also came off the bench. This year, that role was transferred to Reaves and D'lo, who aren't actual floor generals. Vanderbilt was also huge in the Playoffs this year, but he was out this year. There was a lot of bad luck this season.

  • @PlayboiBreezeTV
    @PlayboiBreezeTV Před 12 dny +4

    That’s why Wilbon is respected by real fans 🎯

  • @Nostalgia9478
    @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny +6

    Good coaches last. Bad coaches dont
    If the Lakers had hired Ty Lue in 2019, hed STILL be their coach today
    That said. Vogels a decent coach that shouldnt have been fired
    Vogel was fired to appease WestBRICK
    Dopey Darvin 100 pct deserved to be fired

    • @larrywilson1862
      @larrywilson1862 Před 12 dny +1

      Mark Jackson makes the most sense. He gets his second chance on a short leash.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny

      @@larrywilson1862 Bro. I'll take ANYONE over Dopey Darvin at this point. lol

  • @thaferg525
    @thaferg525 Před 12 dny

    Thank you Michael Wilbon!!!

  • @kilahlipstick9687
    @kilahlipstick9687 Před 12 dny +11

    Sorry Windbag and Michael Goldbond I know you want to take up for Coach Darvin Scam but Asst Coach Ham COULD NOT COACH and he became clear throughout both seasons. This team coached themselves. Some people are meant to be assistants and never coaches and Ham is one of them

    • @MichaelVillarreal-ix5pl
      @MichaelVillarreal-ix5pl Před 12 dny +2

      This team will not make the playoffs next year in it feel so good

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před 12 dny

      Then Lebron should be a player coach like Bill Russell. But then again, Lebron will only have himself to blame.

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 Před 12 dny

      Maybe so. But today’s players really don’t wanna be coached anyway

    • @skywalker2759
      @skywalker2759 Před 12 dny +2

      @@MichaelVillarreal-ix5plI bet you said that last year lol stfu

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 Před 12 dny

      ⁠@@MichaelVillarreal-ix5plYou FALSE PROPHETS will be WRONG as always in it feels soooo good

  • @southeastdaygo6193
    @southeastdaygo6193 Před 12 dny +1

    With all due respect to Coach Hama first time head coach he did a great job last year tearing down a team mid season and getting them to a WCF. Having said that he was a first time coach and he should never have been hired. The Lakers dropped the ball by not hiring Coach Lue in the beginning.

  • @kiaunscustomsllc
    @kiaunscustomsllc Před 12 dny +7

    Darvin ham lack of in game adjustments and trash lineups cost the lakers so many games. I agree that some of the players under perform but, it’s the coach job to make those changes and he didn’t.I definitely think this firing was justified. It’s time to move on.

    • @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC
      @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC Před 12 dny

      ESPN hates the lakers but loves talking about them. They’ll always have a narrative that makes the Lakers look bad. These same analysts said the Lakers made to the conference finals by luck.

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Před 12 dny

      What adjustments should he had made “guy who never was an nba head coach”?

    • @kiaunscustomsllc
      @kiaunscustomsllc Před 12 dny +2

      @@ronm3034 so I need to be a coach to realize running a 3 guard line up while playing against a bigger team like Denver wouldn’t work?

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Před 12 dny

      @@kiaunscustomsllc when did he play a three guard line up .. and what players would you have him play instead?

    • @bambamtapia5232
      @bambamtapia5232 Před 12 dny +1

      @@kiaunscustomsllc so he didn't watch the game lol. Don't mind him

  • @waynegreen7970
    @waynegreen7970 Před 8 dny

    The game within the game. Others knew that the Lakers would be looking for a new coach, so the Clippers immediately signed Lue and the Mavs immediately signed Kidd, foiling the Laker's coaching plans.

  • @emmualmensah2176
    @emmualmensah2176 Před 12 dny +2

    If you think Darvin should have kept his job, you don’t know ball

  • @fbgglizzy800
    @fbgglizzy800 Před 10 dny

    Aye JJ don’t do iiitttt “What Happened To Last Two Security Gaurds” 😂😂😂

  • @dedrickowens27
    @dedrickowens27 Před 12 dny +1

    What have any of those coaches done outside of the Lakers

  • @diamondsharkentertainment7327

    Lakers have no true center to start the games. The only team without. That sounds like a Pelinka problem.

  • @tackthekack1
    @tackthekack1 Před 12 dny +1

    None of these "analysts" watch Laker games regularly. Ham's rotations were trash, he lost the locker room, he was outcoached by Malone and he NEVER accepts responsibility. If Spoelstra was the Laker's coach they would have beat Denver.

  • @Slenderirl
    @Slenderirl Před 12 dny +2

    Mark Jackson?

  • @kevinshell8392
    @kevinshell8392 Před 12 dny +1

    Concentrate on the teams still playing!!!!!!! Get them the media attention!!!!

  • @shmuelhirsch2069
    @shmuelhirsch2069 Před 6 dny

    Windhorst is one of the most listenable sports commentators out there.

  • @holdentruth8197
    @holdentruth8197 Před 12 dny

    About time somebody said it !

  • @chaunceycurtis805
    @chaunceycurtis805 Před 12 dny +5

    Mark Jackson enough said.

  • @ThaRealCstylez
    @ThaRealCstylez Před 12 dny +1

    The way the media drives certain narratives is comedy to me. Real laker fans know Ham wasn’t it. We tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but is lack of accountability became blatant

  • @js1241
    @js1241 Před 12 dny +1

    Game tape, look at it… Jamon getting credit for wcf when the players literally overcame his fails to make it into the post season then made the run.. he didn’t start Austin till after the deadline in 2023.. a lot of games we lost cause he pulled guys out like AR to close games… 😅

  • @bradleycampbell245
    @bradleycampbell245 Před 12 dny +3

    Jeanie Buss becoming the owner of the Lakers was the worst move ever made and nobody cares about out that bubble championship. She got too many yes folks in her building and this organization is not built to win anything. Dr. Buss is turning over in his grave and if he was here, this would not be happening.

  • @FAR.KB24
    @FAR.KB24 Před 12 dny

    As a lakers fan. I agree with Wilbons bron comments

  • @MaxMontana-hm3zx
    @MaxMontana-hm3zx Před 12 dny +1

    Theses dudes be in thier feelings because of the GOAT DEBATE

  • @yarddddd
    @yarddddd Před 12 dny +7

    Ham doesn't even know when to call time out, thats not a good coach

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Před 12 dny +1

      U know how many coaches get criticized for not calling time out? How old are you

    • @Andrew-qd3pf
      @Andrew-qd3pf Před 12 dny

      They keep on asking for timeout in game 5 when they dont have one..this fans are sick..i think you should coach the lakers

    • @yarddddd
      @yarddddd Před 12 dny

      @@ronm3034 what a person age have to do with the facts? He's a bad coach and anybody that watches basketball knows that

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Před 12 dny +1

      @@yarddddd to know if you statement is coming from a lack of experience or ignorance?

    • @yarddddd
      @yarddddd Před 12 dny

      @@ronm3034 we all lock experience and knowledge about some things in life, nobody knows it all but you have to remember we are talking basketball and t HAM got out coach by every other coach this season

  • @PhoenixChaos
    @PhoenixChaos Před 12 dny +4

    The reason he’s always being coached by newbie first years coaches is because the interviews gotta go like this
    “Yup so that’s the gig. Also, we know it’s your first year and Lebron historically is a loser in the finals, but if you don’t win a finals in your first year, you and your entire staff are fired and most likely lebrons staff will paint you as the worst coach on Earth to protect Lebrons status and you’ll probably never coach again. Sound good? “

    • @hectorarguelles1596
      @hectorarguelles1596 Před 12 dny

      That pretty much summed it up.

    • @PhoenixChaos
      @PhoenixChaos Před 12 dny

      @@hectorarguelles1596 Been watching it for decades now
      They really want us to ignore things like this

  • @sportsguy25
    @sportsguy25 Před 12 dny +2

    Lakers jobs is a a dangerous one

    • @ronm3034
      @ronm3034 Před 12 dny

      I don’t know why any respectable coach would want that job

  • @TheFrankHarrisShow
    @TheFrankHarrisShow Před 12 dny

    Darvin Ham was not ready...

  • @bryanmoncion8174
    @bryanmoncion8174 Před 12 dny +1

    Green was cookin here

  • @MrTV-cs3mu
    @MrTV-cs3mu Před 12 dny +2

    If I’m JJ that’s not the job I want I rather build with a new team with more breathing room.

  • @HahaHaha-km4sm
    @HahaHaha-km4sm Před 12 dny +1

    Causals were saying the lakers won the off season now but fire him for losing to last years champs the same champs that swept them last year and the core pieces for both teams were pretty much the same this year yet now it’s the coaches fault

  • @lacya.716
    @lacya.716 Před 12 dny

    Wilbon is 100% correct.

  • @CalobAdamsInfamous913
    @CalobAdamsInfamous913 Před 12 dny +1

    Wilbon is clearly speaking out of feelings instead of facts. Rotation wise and basketball iq Darvin Ham just didn’t have it. They underperformed

  • @edemehtawardhana5962
    @edemehtawardhana5962 Před 12 dny +6

    LeBron is the Coach.

  • @shaunflowers6382
    @shaunflowers6382 Před 12 dny +2

    why not just make LeBron the head coach since he knows so much. And AD can be the assistance coach.

  • @bigpimpen1000
    @bigpimpen1000 Před 12 dny

    Would like to see Tim get a shot at coaching

  • @king-ofheartz
    @king-ofheartz Před 12 dny +1

    🎯 Kenny Atkinson

  • @YouDontKnowISH_
    @YouDontKnowISH_ Před 12 dny

    You know it’s bad when even ESPN (who always rides Bron) is calling it as it is: it’s not a great job for the reasons stated.

  • @garse70
    @garse70 Před 11 dny

    I’ll coach the lakers for league minimum and win 50 games. I would sit like Phil Jackson during the game and let them try to get out of a 15 point deficit playing individual offense and crappy defense. Phil was a genius letting them know when they deviated from the game plan. He let them suffer.
    But, when you have a 20 point lead in the playoffs, he would call a time out, early to tell them to keep getting the ball inside and stop shooting threes.
    AD would not be taking any shots outside of 8-10 feet. He is your advantage every night in the paint.

  • @lillawrence2886
    @lillawrence2886 Před 12 dny +1

    Lakers should give Mark Jackson a chance

  • @octavius9685
    @octavius9685 Před 12 dny

    Laker fan who actually watch the game ARE NOT complaining about his firing...

  • @Real_TB12
    @Real_TB12 Před 5 dny

    Im glad the dude knew the team playing the Celtics so I guess the C for Cleveland stands for magic 😅😅

  • @nextlevelmindset1629
    @nextlevelmindset1629 Před 12 dny +3

    Hard to coach a old head who doesn't want to retire.

  • @danielterek3520
    @danielterek3520 Před 11 dny +1

    Dwane Casey for Head Coach!

  • @Blackineffect
    @Blackineffect Před 12 dny

    Wow Wilbon said what the rest of them are afraid to say, bravo

  • @rayr1861
    @rayr1861 Před 12 dny

    Wilbon, you guys don't have idea. Dervin did disservice his job. He wanted to be paid without work by been fired. His decisions were so flawed that even regular basketball knowledge people would say they were flawed.

  • @jrod132
    @jrod132 Před 12 dny

    If the Lakers wanted to keep playing they should’ve tank the NO play in game to avoid Denver and go after OKC in the first round. The Lakers would’ve beaten OKC had they met. Love him or hate him, there's no denying that Darvin Ham will go down as one of the head coaches in NBA history

  • @Alex-wg8zl
    @Alex-wg8zl Před 11 dny

    Are they forgetting all the rotation , lineups and terrible game management from Ham. He once started Reddish Prince and Vando with Bron and AD 😂

  • @NickAlakersfan
    @NickAlakersfan Před 12 dny +1

    If the lakers had any other coach the lakers are a top 4 seed.

  • @s7654r
    @s7654r Před 12 dny +1

    Lakers had already won the in season tournament banner and did not think it is important to win the championship.

  • @MKIVD
    @MKIVD Před 6 dny

    I'm a Lakers fan and I think Bron and AD with their egos need to go. I would want to rebuild and establish a true culture and identity for LA, then a coaching system similar to what the Spurs and heat have, then get the players who will fit in with the culture, identity, and system that we have. It's not the 80s-2000s anymore where we could just get the best of the best and win every season. LA is stuck with an old mindset while the league moved on and became better exponentially.
    At this point, I'd rather have that than win one more championship with Bron then go now what after he leaves, then try to get the best players and coaches yet no one wants to come anymore because lets face it, LA is a dysfunctional organization right now.

  • @Kurd_Zero
    @Kurd_Zero Před 12 dny

    YAYYYY lets talk about the Lakers again

  • @Jerms21
    @Jerms21 Před 12 dny

    I love how they say the Lakers need an experienced coach, and then bring up JJ Reddick... that's a real experienced coach right there!

    • @christopherkim1361
      @christopherkim1361 Před 12 dny

      Huge fan of JJ post-nba and yet his only experience is coaching his ten year old son's aau team.. no assistant coaching exp at any level!! I'm so confused as to why JJ's name keeps being brought up for head coaching jobs??!!

  • @rumit4all
    @rumit4all Před 12 dny +11

    Bi-annual and semi- annual is the same thing 😂😂

    • @marsspacex6065
      @marsspacex6065 Před 12 dny +7

      Nope Bi annual can also mean every two years along with twice a year.

    • @Magnif1
      @Magnif1 Před 12 dny +5

      Semi means halfway or part of a year. Bi Annual would mean every other year.

    • @estimatedeyes
      @estimatedeyes Před 12 dny

      And the idiot award goes to..........

  • @pauljoseph3081
    @pauljoseph3081 Před 12 dny +1

    JJ will end his coaching career before it ever began LMAO

  • @ZomegJ
    @ZomegJ Před 12 dny

    I like how Jason Williams wants the Lakers to hire coaches who are already under contract with other teams. Especially Jason Kidd why would he leave a better situation in Dallas for a worse situation that is only going to get worse in LA.

  • @BoodaSDavis
    @BoodaSDavis Před 12 dny

    Can we bring back great veteran coaches like Larry Brown, Mark Jackson, Stan & Jeff Van Gundy & countless others? These great basketball minds are literally just sitting around. Like seriously??

  • @10toesdown22
    @10toesdown22 Před 12 dny

    They had Honeycomb Brazy beat playing in the background

  • @KINGJROC1979
    @KINGJROC1979 Před 12 dny +2

    Mark F***ing Jackson !!

  • @dsdddsd4543we
    @dsdddsd4543we Před 12 dny

    To me, this is a risky move by LA. There are only so many other NBA coaches on the market right now. You could have still built with Ham, and make some changes to the roster.

  • @TiggerLyOne
    @TiggerLyOne Před 12 dny

    Just need Adrien Brody on the sideline with Pat Riley hair and have King James do the rest!😂

  • @Riboflavin1947
    @Riboflavin1947 Před 12 dny

    tell me you didn't watch laker games this season without telling me you didn't watch laker games this season

  • @jey4908
    @jey4908 Před 12 dny +1

    Did Wilbon want Bron and AD to announce Ham's firing? LOL

  • @bokchoyiee
    @bokchoyiee Před 12 dny

    JJ Redick would be a great next coach for the Lakers. He already has the respect from Lebron based off their podcast collaboration.

  • @ynotsan
    @ynotsan Před 12 dny

    Seriously? In the middle of the playoffs, you guys are discussing who will be the next coach for LeLakers 😎

  • @DavidWilliam-xs3oj
    @DavidWilliam-xs3oj Před 12 dny

    Now you tell me how a real man and why would a real man retire in a situation like that.

  • @derinfokrieg
    @derinfokrieg Před 12 dny +1

    Before the season started: The Lakers won free agency and now the roster is bad 🤦

  • @vickysteven6211
    @vickysteven6211 Před 12 dny

    Michael Wilbon is so objective that he’s personal friend with Ham. Wow who would’ve thought! Lol

  • @IBRook
    @IBRook Před 12 dny +3

    Media really gonna be mad when they hire JJ and they still do the podcast. So much hate gonna come 😂

    • @sportsguy25
      @sportsguy25 Před 12 dny

      no way they should do that just a bunch of unwanted distractions for the team

  • @ryanbarnes840
    @ryanbarnes840 Před 12 dny

    I agree...why are we not blaming LeBron and AD?

  • @russiadavidson3990
    @russiadavidson3990 Před 12 dny

    If you really watched every Lakers game, you would see that they won a lot of games in spite of Hamm. 2 yrs of "experimental" line changes; misuse of timeouts; lots leads and momentum shifts; stagnate offenses! We have eyes, another year would've been insanity! I'll give Rob a pass on the roster with injuries, but Rob needs to pull a 🐇 out his 🫏 this summer 🖤💜💛

  • @ryanbriones4026
    @ryanbriones4026 Před 11 dny

    You meant who's the next scapegoat ? 😂

  • @terrywilma
    @terrywilma Před 12 dny

    . I keep telling you commentators, teams NEVER hardly hire two inexperienced coaches in a row. They do an experienced guy then they will go to a new coach and when they fire them they go to an experienced coach. The Lakers will more than likely get an experienced coach after Ham. Look at the Bucks and Laker's last few coaches. Experience then a new coach then like the Bucks with Doc, they go back to an experienced coach.