Top Middleweight Motorcycles for 2024! (Triumph, KTM and Yamaha)
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Middleweight bikes are becoming the most popular category out there, but how do you decide which one to get? Not to worry because I've got you covered in this video!
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:07 Triumph Street Triple
3:34 Ducati Monster
5:54 KTM Duke 890
7:35 Yamaha MT-09
9:38 Aprilia RS660
12:16 Kawasaki Z900RS
13:31 Triumph Speed Twin 1200
Yamaha MT-09
Triumph - Komedie
Less than 100HP is a beginner bike? That’s ridiculous. What’s really ridiculous is street bikes making over 175 HP and can go over 200MPH. Where do I ride that?
Agree same thing for cars that go over the state speed limit because you can't do that
Marketing
All of these things have electronics that you can use to neuter them.
Shhhhhhh...
No shit. For several years most 1000cc super-sport bikes could hit 100mph IN FIRST GEAR. For why? Most won't ever see one minute on a track.
Sorry Yams but you’re wrong. The Z900 is a gorgeous bike. No way you can say it’s ugly but have the bug headlight street triple on the list.
those goggle eyes on the triumphs are terrible
The Z900 is good at everything, a great bike, but it doesn't stand out in anything. It is much heavier than the others and does not have the cornering of the Ducati, the KTM, the Aprilia or the new MT-SP.
Its like a ninja turtle coming at you😂🐢
Z900 looks basic
I'll drink to that. The street triple is the ugliest naked bike in production, in my opinion.
As some one from Europe, the reason we class 4-500s as a middle weight bike is because of our licensing system. Most people start on a 125 so going to a 500 is a big jump. So seems more middle weight. It’s also restricted to 46bhp in the UK so a 100-150bhp bike is not middle weight.
Plus our narrower roads and terrible conditions (both road and weather) means there’s less need for the extra HP above say an average 650cc 75hp bike. 100+ would likely be classed as a big bike
@@jayhill9225exactly, and what would be above as a heavyweight in this list? 900cc as a middleweight is ridiculous.
In India though anything greater than 300cc is considered a heavy bike.
The real reason is because your government controls everything😅😅😅
I learning on the street triple r 765. Not gonna lie a year of riding and I’m happy with it but I wish I got the rs or moto2. I considered the trident but I’m very happy I chose the r over it. The safety features and my age probably helped because I was cautious. But if you’re older and looking to start riding a bike I wouldn’t start lower than a 650.
we got lot of potential new releases at EICMA in a week you may need update this list 😀
😂😂
Yamaha R9 anyone
@@juanesteban8938 if R9 comes out. I'll buy.
XSR900 GP? Whether it rides good or not (it will) it looks stunning
@@juanesteban8938mines well get the 1000
To each their own for taste in style. I think the z900 looks great and the triple reminds me of a BeetleBorg.
Yeah if he thinks the Z is ugly then how bout the Mt09? I think its the worst looking bike on the market😅
I still think my 2020 z900 is one of the best looking nakeds on the market but for whatever reason the z gets shit on here in America SMH
I recently bought a 50th anniversary Z900 and other than the fit of the bike it looked so much better than the street tripple or MT-09
I personally own the bike from the video thumbnail and it is perfect man. Styling is absolutely gorgeous and performance is so balanced
Agree with Yammie on the choices. I bought a bike this year and my short list was : RS660, Street Triple, Duke 890R.
Aprilia engines bleed metal shavings into the oil. Not a quality crafting.
middleweight used to be 400cc in the 70s. A Z900 was massive.
me too -- maybe 2 bikes out of all of those would i call middleweight aprillia & triumph
MV Agusta Burutale, Dragster & F3.
Bit expensive, but fun, beauty and more power.
Put a deposit down on a 2018 Street Triple RS. Test rode it on Saturday, and i fell completely in love, and will be a perfect upgrade from my now totaled Z400.
I have had my 21 Street Triple RS for 2 months now it is an amazing bike I got it with 1000 miles for $7500. I upgraded from a 23 z400. Enjoy it, Man.
Just got my 2018 RS 2 weeks ago. Maybe it's 2019 model for you guys in the states. Anyway, I test rode the newest model RS first (love love the looks of it). But found a fantastic deal for this 2018 model. The money savings and basically 90+% of the performance of the latest model sealed the deal. WHAT A BIKE. I'm coming from an Benelli Leoncino 500. Enjoy it when you get yours!
Upgraded from an sv650 to 2018 765rs too, prefer the less aggressive seat, save the balls being crushed as often 😂😂
@@robertr8413have you had any issues with it ?
The Ducati Monster was the first baked bike I ever laid eyes on back in the mid 2000’s, and I fell in love with it. Still one of the most gorgeous bikes out there in my opinion
The Z900 is gorgeous, much moreso than the hideous MT-09 lol.
Just try some cornering with both bikes and you´ll see why the MT is preferred.
unpopular opinion...the tank on the z900 looks like it sorta melted into place...really round and lacks presence. it kinda makes the bike look sad ultimately making it ok looking, but not gorgeous or as good as it could look.
now, with most other bikes you have to put up with ugly headlights...which apparently is the most difficult part of a bike to design cause almost no bike has good headlights...Triumph Street and speed triple lights have ugly bug looking lights, all the Yami MT bikes have ugly unfinished looking headlights, KTM lights.....angular and ugly. Honda Hornet headlights....droopy, pointy, and ugly. Suzuki naked bikes....derivative and ugly. And it goes on and on. so, its either headlights or gas tank...i guess the tank is less noticeable...
Whatever man, Z900 is still one of the best package.
for retro lovers like me, A ducatu nightshift is all i need, not that i cannot buy one but other commitments have priority, so happy with hunter that is one sixth of the price of that ducati but almost 80 percent fun due to very challenging indian city conditions
Did he called z900 ugly after picking Duke 890 in the list?
I love the new z900.
Yeah I think he's a Z900 hater 🤣... personally I think the Z900 looks the best, the Triumph looks like a damn Fly lol
You can’t go wrong with the RS660. I use mine of weekend runs and track days. It is the perfect balance, for me at least.
How long have you had yours? Have you had any issues? I want one so bad, but we don't have a dealer or mechanic on island
They really do seem like a lot of fun. I'm happy with my Street Triple, but I would definitely consider an RS660 if I had to replace it.
yes, if not the connecting rod breaks by 2000 miles @ 120mph like my Bros rs660
It rides really nice
But so does many of the 4 cyl jap bikes, and they are actually RELIABLE
Aprilia and big miles dont go hand in hand, which means anyone who rides A LOT just cant choose them sadly.
I had one, it drunk oil like an alcoholic when they get some whiskey, had it for 3 months traded it for an MV Agusta.@@808Mark
I have a speed twin 900 has my first bike and it's great, a great option imo
I got an adventure bike as my middleweight, the transalp has been treating me well.
I'd love to see you do a vid on the Suzuki Katana! Whether it's a review or a "So you want to buy"
Yeah! It’s a cool bike. Just the small tank puts me off a bit
@@witjas123 I've been riding my Mt-07 for a bit now and have been thinking about trading it for the Katana but I'm so on the fence lol
The katana is a stunning bike! But it’s really quite the weapon. Literally!! 152hp right? But if you feel you’re ready for it, try one out? If you’re not doing much long distance I’d say the tank isn’t really a deal breaker. Personally I want to tour with my bike too so that plays into my decision making.
I love my XSR900. Best bike in the category for me and with the extended swing arm from the tracer 9 it's way less unruly than the mt09.
Thank you for this great list of starter options for me :)
2023 XSR900 here.. Dunno, hard to beat the newer Yammer 9 triples what a package. got mine for $10.3K. Get it tuned with a long tube header exhaust, upgrade the front pads, maybe the -1, +2 sprocket change if you like competitive racing 2nd tier liter bikes to 120 and don't like loosing ALL the time. Living the life. Suspension is good! learn to adjust it. 420 Lbs. is worth a few pony's for this beauty it's the Big Block Torque/pull at low RPM you want. Most of the time, you never finish out the wind up. The Z900 would be my 2nd choice, not a big fan of the formidable Thumper twins. Back in the day, the Air Cooled 4 cylinder Honda 750's were Wide! The 6 cylinder was Silly! The 3 cylinder H2 only had 3 cylinders (but still air cooled), was about as wide as a bike could be without dragging the alternator cover. Now with water cooling, even a 4 cylinder is fine. your mileage may vary.. whatever you pick, the quick shifter is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED (worth at Least 0.5 sec in the quarter), and get the ABS as a requirement. You can always turn it off.
Insurance gets pricey at some point.. Seems they might go by CC.. and specifically ask about Turbo/Super charging!! The Yammer 9 is Not cheap insurance, they seem to be jacking rates as a rule these days.
This segment is full of jewels, so many good options... but once you tried the KTM there are not room for doubts, the fun factor - big smile on the face - that produce the Duke is above all others in this category. Orange love 🧡 !!!
Tried the KTM this summer. It's nice, light and flickable. But it felt like a cheaper street triple minus the fantastic engine note to me. Has better handling though, i'll give it that.
@@andeez_nutz I use the bike to commute through out 30 km of mountain twisty roads and just a few kms of urban traffic, the 890 Duke higher torque at low rpms makes a difference compared to the Street Triple. Even thought, the sound of the three cylinder engine makes the Triumph an ear candy!
I consider my z650rs as middleweight. But Im sure zx4r will be wild, inline fours are just so much more exciting
Gladius SFV650 all the way........... I own one, running a IXIL twin pea shooter, and the 90 degree V twin sounds too good. Plus the power delivery is perfect
The gladius is a great, torquey, reliable analog motorcycle for beginning and intermediate street riding. The IXIL sounds almost as nice as it does without a muffler(the dude before me chucked the stock muffler)
The z900 looks 10x better than the mt09
Ouch, I just got t boned by a deer.
I'm either going to replace my V-Strom 1000 or call it quits at 62 yr old.
None of my friends can imagine me without putting 15 -20,000 miles a year on a bike.
I'm thinking Ninja 1000 for a more relaxed ride, but these smaller bike might be nice, being lighter weight for my older age.
At any rate it's always fun looking for my next bike.
XSR900
Did nobody tell Yammie for the smashmouth clip in the intro that the years did in fact stop coming? RIP Steve Harwell
Love the z900rs
Would you be able to do a review comparing the pros and cons of what would be a better race bike build. 2020 765 moto2 or a 2023 765 rs? engine and geometry comparison
Looooooove my 2024 Street Triple R!
I traded my Aprilia Tuono in for a Triumph moto2 and MY GOD! What an upgrade!
You like the moto 2 over a tuono 1100 v4 factory?
My son is talking about selling his too and buying the rs Street triple.
In which ways does it feel an upgrade. I'm on fence between the two. Thanks!
I already have a 2024 Street Triple 765 RS
@@timjacob991 pros is you can add a lot of factory options. I added tpms, cruise control and heated grips. Cons is the wind blast but you’re riding a naked so it’s expected. It’s also less range aka smallish gas tank. Can’t get 200 miles on a tank of fuel.
@@timjacob991 more pros is the traction control and cornering abs. If you’re getting after it in the fall in some turns and come across a bunch of leaves and start to skid it’ll catch you before you get out of sorts.
I'm surprised the 2024 zx6r redesign didn't even get a mention in the fully faired section
I’ve only had a Ducati Monster 1200R. I’m very happy with it. Feeling curious about getting a new bike, not sure what I should go for. BMW, Streetfighter, SuperDuke, MT10 or just move to a streetbike? I just commute in the city and hit the hills on the weekends.
S1000r its a better comuter and more comfortable ✊🔥and never brokes down🤙
I have a 1000cc but with a 150hp. I don’t where my bike is classified now 😂😂 0:46
kidding. love your content
Are there practical reasons to learn to wheelie (other than it's fun?). Serious question, thanks
Love the retros
Uh Oh Yam,,, Made the Video too early,,,,The best looking bike of 2024 is the XSR900 GP,,,, bike has some serious wood inducing beauty.
I wonder where the new XSR 900 GP will fall on this list.
Damn, this came out later. I’m already getting a CFMOTO 650NK but new ideas added for the next
The engine is copied from kawasaki's 650.. good beginner bike I would say
Triumph❤ Speed Twin for me
The triumph trident would've made a great addition to this list
How is a 1200 a middleweight??? When I started my riding career, some 40 plus years ago, a litre-bike was considered huge, and a middleweight would have been something like a 500cc. I am perplexed at the rate at which the goal posts are being moved.
No mention of the KTM Duke 990? Also the MT09SP is not the 2024 model. The facelift isn't featured. Also the XSR900 is akin to the MT09SP.
so the speed twin 1200 is basically 13k, the street triple R is 10k.....so which is better bang for buck then? i won't be doing any track days, Love the aesthetics of the Trident, but want little more kick in the rear, the Daytona 660 engine in the trident would really have me interested...ALOT....but, that isn't an option, so, the R is 3k cheaper, but i would imagine the twin is more suited for daily cruising? but how much more suited? is it better than the R to the degree that its worth the 3k price difference? or is it more nominal where you are better off saving the coin cause the R is maybe better in corners or something. which has more range for weekend day trips with my old duffer harley homies? i know the twin would fit in little better with the cruisers, but more important i don't want to be "that guy" who always is low on gas when everyone else has half a tank.
Finally a photo of a bike that I own. I don't feel poor anymore.
Z900rs it is, it fixes the one problem with the z900 the ugly looks, the z900rs looks elegant yet powerful, that's what I'd choose if I were in a middle-aged man with a corporate job.
But I am not a middle-aged man so fuck it, just go and buy the screaming inline 4 supersport you want and let your chiropractor deal with the problem later
Inline 4 supersport are a dying breed anyways, who knows when they'll get replaced by boring parallel twins filled with all the torque and none of the sound, enjoy the inline 4 while you can
When are you gonna try the Suzuki GSX 8S?
@yammie what do you think of F900R? Best of BMW tech but little softer on Power
That thing's a tractor.
@paulagnish Sure bud, whatever makes you feel special. It's a 270 degree in line twin like a lot of other middleweights and has superior electronics and features. At 105hp a little underpowered but the tq comes on really low. Yammy will never acknowledge a BMW that isnt a 1000 or an ADV.
F900R has a chinese motor from Loncin Motor Co., China
so it's not fully a German bike
@@Win7ermu7eits a parallel twin
@juansilayumbe sorry my mistake lol. Meant to say inline.
How does a 756cc beat a 899cc inline 4 z900?
Hornet 750 is the best, sales showing the truth.
R9 coming at eicma !
9:45 who WOULDN'T want that 🤣
Scrambler 1200 X is officially a beginner bike. thanks Yam. 🍻
the only thing I don't like about the street triple is the exhaust sounds terrible and exhaust mods are illegal here😔
What is your problem with the Ninja 650?
Well he did say that “In 2024 anything less than 100hp is just a beginner bike” so there’s your answer right there. Numbers aside, I rode a ninja 650 and it is noticeably weaker than the bikes he’s putting forward. Even the RS, with its 660cc, has 32 more horsepower and in fairness that does kinda put it into another category. IMO there ought to be ‘small mid’ and ‘large mid’.. 1000ps for example divides the middle class in that way.
What!? The Z900 is ugly?! Bullock! Yes, I own a Z900. What's amusing is I chose the Z900 over the MT09 because I thought the MT09 was ugly...lol
I love my MT-09
I think that list is not that great. Having the Street Triple and MT09 on the list, but calling the Z900 too ugly? What the hell, especially the MT09 is one of the ugliest nakeds on the market in my opinion, the Street Triple is actually quite a nice Bike, but the headlights....horrendous. I´ve driven a MT09 (not SP) and I didnt like one thing about it besides the quickshifter and blipper, the seating position is more like a supermoto, which I dont like at all, the handlebars are in a very weird spot, way too high, the risers look awful and look at that exhaust...what is that. I know its hard to meet all the new regulations and stuff but slapping a massive steel box under the bike with no design whatsoever and ugly welds, thats not it. To make it all worse, I dont like the new headlight design at all, the old one was way better, but both are way way way too high killing the line of the bike. As much as I like the R1 and R6, that thing is a design nightmare.
Anything under 100hp is a beginner bike? Oh boy...must be an American problem. 90% highway and 10% what you guys call "twisties", basically a road with very minor curves.
The Street Triple front end is absolutely predatory - I love it!
True the MT09 won‘t win any beauty contest, nor will the Monster imo. That‘s why I don‘t understand why he called the Z09 ugly.
papa yams, I'm selling my 2023 rebel 500 abs se and my 2023 ninja 650 in order to get a 2023 hya-frickin-busa, and I WILL be turboing it in the future, don't worry
Hey I wouldn’t get that for the price get a zx10 or gixxer 1000r or s1k bmw . One it’s a heavy beast. Two price there are all competing in price. But do you , but be safe and have fun
@@mrwick4875 I want the busa
Yamy got dunked by Yamy - the new MT09 beats all that.
Were is Ducati supersport and agusta dragster
tried the street triple but it felt too unstable, tippy when coming to a stop. or is that just me?
I'd have to say that's just you friend. I'm on the shorter side and I find it easy to ride.
@@CraterLakey i suspected something like that. i am more sensitive to such non issues than others. the cb650r is the opposite, like many other 4 cylinder bikes it refuses to fall into the corner until you give it enough force. compared to that all other bikes i have ridden, especially the mt09 and xsr900 felt perfectly neutral.
@@nateriver5114 I see what you're saying. I've not ridden a 4cyl bike yet but always wondered if they would feel more cumbersome especially at lower speeds.
It's just the geometry and your experience. Street triple is basically more of a race bike without fairing... Mt09 is rather an upright tourer.
Talk about the suzuki katana
So…. How are these bikes for noobs? I’m a responsible person with a mature age and I want to start riding. Seems like a headache to get a 400cc +/- size bike only to have to sell it later, then buy a larger bike (capable of sustained highway speeds/distance is the goal). I’m really leaning towards the TKM, possibly the MT-09, as a first bike. That means testing and learning. Last time I road a bike solo was eighth grade… DECADES ago, literally. Everyone I know has a bike, even my girlfriend, Honda Shadow Phantom brand new off the floor.
its craz to me how aprillia made a 660 2 cylinder compete with mt09s and duke 890s engines
A BMW tech told me in 2015 that Motorrad had bench tested a S1000RR to 300HP and tore it down without seeing any hint of failure. Most of your modern engines are running far under capability to balance fun/failure factor.
@@no_nuts yeah true. Ive seen my07 engines with 90hp N/A
They all look great. Was I only 30 yrs. younger.....
Z900 too ugly, but MT09 good? OK, right.
México también 400cc o así ya es media cilindrada
Mt 07 are perfect midle weight and ninja 650✊🔥🔥
He doesn't like ninja 650 lol
@@shaunnanton929 😂😂
as an irish person any bike from 300-500 id say is middleweight and anything above that is heavyish weight. then 1kcc+ is just unnecessarily overweight bikes
No Hornet 750??? Strongly disaggree... Pretty solid bike
@01:46 Hahahahahahahahaha good one
The Monster IS a V-Twin !.
zx6r 2024 got tft display
Sorry Yammie Noob but the Ducati Monster is still a V-twin and not it a true a 90 degrees from 0 degrees nor dose it resemble a L shape one of the cylinders and head would have to be considerably shorter in over all length about the half and that pretty much the end of the story.
no gixxer 750?
13.25:1 compression ratio? I would see if that can run diesel.
Noob question: Is that a good thing or bad?
@@matcharavind Glad you asked. If it can run diesel, it gives you options to avoid ethenol plus, if it will burn diesel, it will burn peanut oil. It is a good thing!
@@matcharavindin general yeah, the higher the compression ratio, the more efficient the engine, so amongst other things, you’ll have better fuel economy
@@witjas123 Awesome, ty
@@no_nuts Ty 😀
What about super motos?
MV Agusta F3
XSR 900 Older model looks and design was SO AWESOME...
SADLY I didn't like that New model's looks and design...😮💨☹️👎🏻
Guys, just compare BOTH bikes new model vs old model...side by side... you will see...
Haha it’s my bike! (Red triumph STRS 24) my first bike….
I am surprised you didn't mention the Yamaha R7
Y would he that bikes slow and boring unless u just like wheeling everywhere
you must be new here, is that not the entire point of middleweight class bikes??? Low end torque and ideal tuning for mid rev range riding, the video isn't titled "Top superbike motorcycles of 2024" bro, newsflash every middleweight bike is "slow" that's the WHOLE idea, maybe don't compare every bike to the 1000cc rockets like a 9 year old Supra kid, mature up and you'd learn to appreciate and respect all kinds of bikes 💀@@FuriousGerbil5
My SFV2 is a middle weight
Not😂
No Honda Hornet 🐝??? By far the best of the bunch.
😆😆🤣
PAPA YAM THEY RELEASED THE NEW MT09 TODAY
My shit-tier 75 HP SV650 on suicide watch. Even the GSX-8S is only 82hp
cb650r ?
You do know cfmoto makes all KTM engines right. So get a cfmoto 800nk and you pretty much have the KTM just less expensive. And cfmoto is coming out with the 1000cc v4 making 205hp
They don't make 890 engines, and 800nk only has ABS..
Ok... if your looking for big power mid bikes why impede it with driver aid. And if KTM has an 890 the yes they do just not under cfmoto brand they make ALL KTM engines
I thought the z900 looks good?
I don't downvote you, but, BAD SQUID, BAD!!
It's illegal to like the looks of that bike.
@@irishtrash5 to much like the zh2 or what? I like the green sub frame look?
@@aaronmullins7200it’s just that the sugomi design isn’t for everyone. Love it or hate it..
ZX6R isn’t a middleweight anymore?
What about mv agusta
Where is the MV Agusta F3/Brutale/Dragster on here? They deserve a shout!!!
800nk not on the list?
America is the only place obsessed with ccs.
You forget best middleweight aka MV Agusta Brutale 800RR
How is the Kawasaki Z900 ugly?
I’m so confused
As a 2010 Ducati Monster owner I can see why Ducati made the current Monster the way they did, but it's still blasphemous
No BMW F900, best bike is slept on ONCE AGAIN