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In my Sony WF-1000XM5 earbud review, I answer the big question: are these the best noise-cancelling headphones on the market? The answer might surprise you.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
02:20 - Sound
06:06 - Noise cancelling
09:32 - Design (and everything else)
10:56 - Conclusion
What's more important to you - sound or noise cancelling? You can only pick one.
Depends on what I am listening to. Noise cancelling for podcasts and videos but sound quality for music
Noise cancelling
If I am paying for noise cancelling, then that is what I want. If I want sound quality then I use wired IEM
Sound
I have recently bought these, and I`d agree the sound is excellent. I`m a bit confused however about the ANC. Like you, I can hear quite a lot of sound coming through with ANC enabled, although the buds do keep the music at the front, and you can definitely enjoy whatever you are listening to. Some reviewers have implied that these buds are every bit as good as, for example, the Airpod Pros, and others have said Sony takes a different approach to Noise cancellation? Perhaps we are not able to get a good seal using the provided tips. I noticed when using the in-app test for a good seal, one or other of the buds is apparently not properly sealed. I have tried them all, and don't seem to be able to get an adequate fit. This has not really spoiled my listening experience at all, and i am definitely satisfied with this product. However, i don't really have much to compare them with, and different reviewers seem to have a differing experience of the actual noise-cancelling performance.
Hello, thanks for this review! I totally agree, I received mine a few days ago and the exact same thing happened to me regarding the ANC, in fact, until now I'm wondering if I have a defective unit, but seeing your review, it made complete sense to me. I tried all the tips and no change, I have some Xiaomi buds pro3 (U$30) and after comparing them again and again, I think the buds have a better ANC. I know the comparison is unfair but I also have the WH1000xm4, and their ANC is truly brilliant).
Now, about the sound, for me they are excellent, the transparency mode also seemed very good, but the ANC is definitely NOT what Sony claims.
Great review Mark, so if I only care about sound quality, what would you recommend? These Sony? The Marshall Motif II? Or Melomania M100? Or something else? Thank you!
Have you ever tried Bose's QuietComfort? All the tech review channels that I follow claim that Bose's earbuds are the very best at noise cancelling for in ear earbuds. Most of them put the Bose QuietComfort II first and the previous version second place in noise cancelling in particular followed closely by the airpods pro second gen. If you haven't tried them yet I'd love to see a comparison video of the Bose QuietComfort II and the Airpods pro second gen. Even though I'd never buy the Airpods as I'm an Android user and Airpods won't work best for me, just wanted to know your opinion on the noise cancelling features of both earbuds. I've owned the Bose QuietComfort original version but they got stolen from me and would probably get the QuietComfort II but I purchased the Sennheiser Momentum 3 (which also have a great noise cancelling but still not even close to the first version of the Bose) as at the time QuietComfort II were not released and I didn't knew that they're coming.
I found the even on the largest tip I couldn’t get a good seal to make the ANC have any noticeable effect. Not the case on the AirPods Pro 2 though - I get a great deal on them. I think the oval tip shape makes a big different if your ear holes are on the larger side. AirPods Pro and Jabra and Bose all use an oval tip
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the Bose QC Earbuds 2
They have ANC that is widely considered better than Airpods Pro 2. Their transparency mode is quite good as well.
In fact many reviewers claim that the Bose QuietComfort earbuds both versions are the very best in noise cancelling in particular with the QuietComfort II at No 1 spot and their previous version at No2 followed by the Airpods Pro..
How's the ANC when riding a bike and listening to music? Does it cancel wind noise like xm4?
Found the answer, absolutely terrible, there's no wind noise cancelling, with noise cancelling on it couldn't even cancel the wind noise of a fan. I bought Sennheiser MTW4, perfect wind noise cancelling with Ani wind mode, can ride a motorcycle! And sounds amazing too.... It's sounds amazes me every time!
Mark Ellis Reviews, ThanksMuch!
You really need to use an Android flagship with LDAC codec and high bitrate enabled in developers options to get the best sound out of these XM5s. Using iPhone that supports AAC bluetooth codecs doesn't do justice with the quality of these earbuds.
I hear the Jabra elite 10 are very very good, would you be able to review?
They now out yet
I'm interested in those as well.
I’ve got mine and fell blissfully asleep in the park whilst listening to them. The ANC works exceedingly better than the over hyped and over engineered Sony, but not quite as good as the Bose. They are however cheaper, very comfortable and worth every penny.
Hahahaha your first reaction at the beginning 😂😂😂😂
Any plans on reviewing the Jabra elite 10 or a Active 8s?
Please review the WM5 call quality using the latest 3.2.1 firmware. I noticed a very clear improvement. In my tests, it is now one of the best for calls in noisy places.
Im one of the lucky ones.... Galaxy Buds 2 Pro fit me and never come loose. Sound great and the ANC is good enough, especially at the current price.
Have you managed to try a non-review set? Apparently Sony sent reviewers prototype units that were not fully ready. More recent reviews praise the ANC!
I have the xm4s, and while I normally upgrade product lines I like, I haven’t heard anything compelling enough to do so with these.
@@anismenacethe Bose quietcomfort 2 earbuds?
I had issues with the WH-1000XM5 and also with the WF-1000XM4-s ANC. I have a small head and small ears, the WH-1000XM5 was so big it didnt create any pressure, therefore the ANC was really bad, worse than the WH-1000XM3. I wondered how could that be, and figured it was a fit problem, when i pushed the headphones on my head it was really good, but when i loosened the pressure with my hands the ANC didnt work properly.
It was similar with my WF-1000XM4, no tips in the box could do a proper seal, It was like there was no ANC turned on, just like in your case it was just a little bit muffled. I bought simple silicone tips, and ANC was working properly after finding a right size and fit. Now I have aftermarket foam tips, and at the gym i barely hear the music even if i turn my music off.
I dont think this saves sony, because I had to buy 3rd party accessory to enjoy the full performance of the buds, but cant say ANC is bad. Im looking forward to buy the WF-1000XM5-s later on, also there are graphs where people objectively measure the ANC performance, and it looks good.
Sound but noise cancelling as well. Can you not have both ?!? Still prefer Apples air pods. Great, honest review again
Sorry to hear about your medical discharge, but wow what a career.
I have compared my XM5 against Bose ultra and Jabra Elite 10. I compared them whilst listening to a bathroom extractor fan, out door air con unit, passing traffic and on an aircraft. The XM5 are not in the same league when it comes to Noise Cancelling. I can get a slight muting of background noise after a lot of pushing and twisting into the ear canal. I have changed tips, bought pricey silicon replacements, completed firm ware updates and done a reset to no avail.
You got new headphones but they were technically used? I have the AirPod pros and the pro max’s, and I have to disagree. The pro max is 10x better than the earbuds. I don’t hear any bass in the earbuds and too much highs with little to no adjusting to your liking. I’m thinking of trying the Sonys or the Bose quiet comforts.
Hi Mark
after using apple products since more than over 30 years, the last 3-4 years I`ve been a little bit disappointed with the quality with all kinds of airpods. Yes, they look cool, stylish and easy to use out of the box. But they never fit my ears, even with aftermarket ear tips. Every day they slipped out of my ears, had to search them…
Each Airpods either pro or max started with crackling noise issues, bluetooth interruptions, and at the end a constantly squaking noise without any sound after 12-18 months.
I never had the promised sound experience with them. Airpods max made a perfect job with ANC.
So I had to switch my favorite brand.
Airpods max to B&W Px7se. Ingenious.
Airpods pro 1 and 2 gave up, no Apple Support…
Switched to XM5.
Yes I know wearing comfort is
individually, but they fit much better, ANC is nearly perfect, Sound is great.
First I didn`t like the touch gestures, but after two day I managed it.
My conclusion after over 30 years using Apple products: other brands did their homework and made a really good job.
Life is too short for bad sound an bad beer, cheers mate
Marc from Switzerland
It's the same as what I felt Thank you I am an iPhone user and I listened to Sony xm5, but I felt the balance was worse than I thought and I felt AirPods Pro 2‘s noise cancelling was much better than Sony. Sony is good at making headphones, but wireless earphones are still too much to keep up with Apple… further I think AirPods Pro 2's noisecancellation is better than headphone sony Xm5. To Iphone user, I think airpods pro2 is the most great choice. No matter how good Sony sound quality, the overall balance is still the best for Apple AirPods pro 2nd gen👍
Not sure what went on with your pair. I also own the air pods pro 2 and Bose QC2. The Sonys have way way better ANC than the AirPods and very close to the QC2 , QC2 still the king by a tiny bit.
I always like your reviews for the honest opinions. I have been considering purchasing the Sony earbuds but after seeing the video I shall definitely save my money for now
Thanks for the review Have ordered the technics az80s Waiting on them arriving Had the sennheiser tw3 buds They stopped working after a few months Have Bose Sony and B&W over ears headphones all good
😅What I don’t get is people saying the AirPod pro 2 noise cancelling being really good!!!?? I think it’s only average at best Anyone else think this? The anc is rubbish on airpodpro 2 in my opinion Thanks for the video
I would be interested in your thoughts of Sony linkbuds s - I find them better for the price than most
Hey Mark, do you feel that the WH-1000XM5 headphones has better, worse, or equal noise cancellation capability as the AirPods Pro 2?
No earbuds, including the latest Apples. do noise cancelling as well as the best over/the/ear headphones.
He did say that they were a lot worse than the Pro 2’s
The over-ear XM5s are the market leader in terms of noise cancelling, imo.
i’ve had the opposite experience. Literally A/B tested the airpods pro 2 and the xm5 in a restaurant. the Sony’s definitely cancelled more low to mid frequencies whereas the airpods cancelled out a balanced amount of all frequencies
Did someone have a chance to compare those with Galaxy Buds 2 Pro on Android device ? I'm mentioning Android as I thing LDAC is the biggest benefit of Sony's/
Doesn’t look like you squeeze to alley then expand in your ear? Not sure if that matters? Love the channel and this video! I’m going to stick with APP2
Nope - you pop these straight in (squeezing would be a pain each time).
@@MarkEllisReviewsYou’re supposed to squeeze them and let them expand in your ear. It’s a huge difference. A pain in the arse but still, very important
Bought these on launch. The noise cancellation is pretty poor tbh but the sound is absolutely brilliant, I couldn’t get a really good fit with the foam tips so bought the spinfit 360 silicone tips which are super comfortable and give you a great seal.
It blows my mind that people value anc over the actual sound, it’s a pair of earphones, surely sound should take priority over anything else?
Bottom line, these sound a lot better than my airpod pro2s but have inferior anc which is not a problem when you have the music playing as they sound that good you can’t hear anything from the outside world anyway.
Well i did heard the noise outside, so i would say they are pretty bad cancelling out, outside noise 😢
Mark, nice review. I totally agree. The noise cancelling is very very disappointing. I am in communication with Sony presently having returned them once for the above reason. The app. which measures the quality of the fit continually advises that the tips maybe too small, I am using the largest tips! Bose Ultra work a treat straight out of the box. I am also happy with the cheaper Jabra Elite 10. Not in the same league as the Bose but not bad.
I’ve had the XM3s and XM4s, but those developed a battery issue. Tried these out in a shop and they sounded ok, but based on reviews I was expecting more. The sub bass extension feels a bit limited (tested by playing Evanescence - Sweet Sacrifice).
Maybe my expectations were higher than they should have been, based on the reviews. But also, the ergonomics are a bit worse for me than the XM4s. These are more “slippery”.
So I’m actually looking into Sennheiser’s Momentum TW3 now. They’re cheaper and Darko Audio found them to be better than the XM4s and the AirPods Pro 2s. It does have a bigger case though.
I think I’ll check what Apple is going to do tomorrow, and then decide.
I've got the sennheiser, don't bother, funnily enough I had to return my xm4s for the same reason! I'll never buy apple but I'm seriously considering the bose.
for the pricepoint, the Soundcore Liberty 4 NC's are quite good
These are without doubt, and easily the best sounding earbuds out right now. Sep 2023. Forget the airpods 2 pro. The senheissers. The Bose. Etc etc. These have blown me away. The sound quality, the separation. The bass. Well done Sony. Another world beater
i agree. until bose dropped the ultras in oct 2023 😊
@@moonmancastro umm 🤔 the Bose are good. But not a patch on the Sony in my opinion. But sound is subjective. No matter how you look at it they're both better than air pods
Not my experience sadly.
@@binman5233What was your experience that makes you say that?
I must agree at least in terms of them being better than the Apple AirPod Pro 2!! In fact I just returned my APP 2’s this morning and got the XM5’s because they sound so much better plus they have a little better ANC and 25% more battery which is VERY IMPORTANT for someone like myself because as a nearly 40 year old fully disabled (by VA definition) combat veteran who doesn’t have kids and isn’t married (I do have a fiance whom has been together with for well over 11 years and engaged for 3 1/2 years) however I do suffer from SEVERE TINNITUS which I got from my time in both the Air Force fueling/hot pitting F-16 and A-10 Warthogs (hot pits is when they fly around,land, taxi over to you and refuel as they’re still running and then immediately take back off again. Plus during my stint in the army before they forced me to retire via a medical discharge from an MEB or Medical Evaluation Board. Anyways, my point is I wear mine ALL DAY/EVERY DAY. Literally the ONLY TIME I am not wearing them is when they’re charging or I’m taking a shower. So the longer the battery life, THE BETTER!!!
Mark, i really think that you should consider trying the Liberty 4 NC, by Anker. Strong noise cancelling, good controls, amazing battery. Also, might i add, the sound out of the box is the ultimate basshead v shaped signature, which i dislike. However, it is possible to EQ it, and invert it's curvature, turning it into a super clean detailed sound. Really think you should give them a try, even though it's a lot cheaper than the ones you mentioned.
Can the ANC be updated with a software release or is it hardware related
Tried it as did Sony themselves when I sent them back. No difference.
Sony or jabra 10 elite?
I was also very disappointed from the ANC coming from the AirPods Pro 1. Gen, they are so much Better but Soundwise goodbye Apple.
Getting used to these foam tips is a struggle for me tho
Great review waiting for its availability in India
If u look for best ANC try bose earbuds qc 2
What about the Bose QC2?
Haven't tried them yet!
Very nice video
Thanks!
I don't care so much for noise cancelling, and my two year old Sony XM3 still work great for me. NC is only so-so but the audio quality is still fantastic. Big and bulky, yes, but I'm used to them and don't find them too uncomfortable.
Really like mine too, but they like to disconnect for no reason, and I have used them so much the battery has worsened. Looking for a replacement is really hard!
@@brownbreadinc127 If you can afford them, I highly recommend (as does Mark) the Apple AirPods Pro 2. Great sound, comfortable, stay in place, great NC. (I have a pair of those as well as the Sony XM3's.
@@brownbreadinc127replacing the battery costs $20. True that it has minor connections for me though
How about using them in the ear over a long period? I used the xm4 and over a few hours they start to be a lil uncomfortable
You must have not got a good deal. Because the noise canceling on these elbows away air pods pro 2s. Makes them look like pixel buds lmao. The xm5s are much better than the air pods pro 2 IMO. The only things that's better about the air pods is transparency, and volume control.
Sony needs better naming conventions than using model numbers as their product names. They don't exactly roll off the tongue
Did Mark, say that someone had them before him? Stuck in their ears?
Mate, I hope you did clean them properly before using them for your own review.
UGH! I can think of nothing worse, to freak me out.
Yourself like most reviewers fail to mention that only the Sony's XM5 allow you to listen to Hi-Res music
I think we will eventually find that Sony will have to admit they have got this wrong. Unfortunately, in my case it looks like its going to be long slog to get my money back. If I ever do. I suspect better designed or larger tips would have avoided the problem.
yet another youtuber that fails to understand the noise cancelling wavelength sony is attempting. it doesnt cancel noise at speech frequencies on purpose. its a design feature. it cancelles ambient noise and lets in voice patterns otherwise its unsafe. they actually have documents ive seen in design schematics explicitly saying this. the noise cancelling is actually better for lower and higher frequencies than any other headphones. which is most of what im worried about and causes hearing damage.
The Bose earbuds are terrific at noise cancelling and comfortable.
Lol, air pod pro 2 as gold standard.
Indeed they are. Glad you agree.
Thank you so much. Just saved me 300 dollars. I’ll stick with my AirPods. Thank you
These earphones are ment to be eq adjusted i own them too very nice earphones great sound great everything else
just bought the sonys, my 10 year old bose are better.
Not better than air pods2 Apple is louder and better sound quality
Saved me £250, thank you.
Sony is the king! :)
If you think that AirPods Pro 2 are the gold standard for ANC earbuds then you are also late to the Bose QC earbuds 2 party.
An opinion isn't "wrong", Neil - grow up.
@@MarkEllisReviews Fair enough and I take back the last sentence. I do own both though and for ANC it is not even close, the Bose buds are amazing at cancelling noise. Overall package though, sound quality usability etc is another debate.
So they provided you service getting rid of an overpriced crapple product.
Eh?
All lies you’ve clearly been paid by apple
*Apple. And this video isn’t sponsored or funded in any way by Apple - if it was, I’d have to explicitly state that was the case. No one’s out to get you mate, chill out. You’re safe.
@@MarkEllisReviews yeah you would say that your on CZcams to make money and that’s a fact Ive owned both and there ain’t a speck of apple air pods pro 2 that’s better then wf1000xm5
@@aabc84 *you’re. And you are absolutely right - I’m on CZcams to make money; it’s my business (kid needs to eat, etc). I also completely respect your opinion on these Sony buds. Try accepting opinions that differ to your own, buddy - it makes the world a better place.
@@MarkEllisReviews no one agrees with your lies it’s not a opinion when your clearly a liar
Are these better than their predecessors, the Sony WF-1000XM4?
How do they compare to the sennheiser momentum 4's ?