Eloise and Cressida being friends now was NOT on my bingo card
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Eloise and Cressida being friends now was NOT on my bingo card #Bridgerton
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Although Eloise has yet to forgive Pen, did anyone else notice how she protected Pen by distracting Cressida from insulting Pen? She confronted Cressida about her vindictive behavior, trying to get her to treat everyone better. Plus she checked on Pen in ep 3 after the comments made in Whistledown and took accountability for her part in the spread of the gossip
Thats what I saw .. Eloise will have a different perception
The way Eloise came to rescue as soon as she saw what was about to happen and Penelope didn't even realise
I think she did, but Eloise still won't talk to her, and she IS talking to Cressida in spite of how she was talking to Penelope. It still hurts her.
The look of heartbreak and anguish on both their faces beats any romance in my eyes this season. Platonic friendship is what trumps it
Friends can be friends without romantic feelings omggggg
The actress playing Cressida does a very fine job. You get to know her a bit better. It's no excuse for her cruel, rude behaviour. But contrary to the book, here you get a glimpse of why she is so mean: loneliness. A mean Mama, a cruel father, every single chance of getting away (Lord Featherington , lord Depling, prince Friedrich and even Colin snapped away under her nose while she was trying to get to them.) In the books, she is the rude and cruel Lady, having everybody under her spell. I still do not like her, but I admire how well the actress is portraying her.
I agree ❤
This hurts. I understand why Eloise is still mad but Cressida 😢
That's was directo'sr choice
This was one of several decisions we all heard they made leading up to this season that seemed dubious but actually elevated the story in ways I wasn’t anticipating.
The Eloise-Colin-Penelope-Cressida intersection across the three seasons now is just that much better for me. And the Eloise-Pen scenes are as (platonically) romantic and wistful as the Colin-Pen scenes.
I agree!! I think it would be hard to convey this plotline in the books because it's a different medium that focuses on characters in a different way, so I don't mean to say that the books are worse for not having this element, but I do think it elevates the show to have more depth in the web of characters and I actually feel compelled to care about how Cressida developed now. I love that they added this!
@@WitchOracle Yes! And in the inverse of what you said, I don’t think a lot of the original book would translate well to the screen, because there is less that actually “happens” and more internal monologuing for both of them.
@@Cab1726 absolutely agreed!
I think Cressida and Eloise's friendship has honestly been one of the highlights of this season so far. Cressida values Eloise's friendship and she's trying to be better. She keeps Eloise's secret and it's clear she feels like she can be herself around her.
I'll genuinely not get over that scene of Eloise calling on Cressida. I'd honestly not be against a romance blossoming between them. And perhaps it's just me, but I have this slight suspicion that Cressida was "close" with a female friend at one point and that's why her parents are so adamant to get her to dump Eloise.
OMG !
My thoughts precisely! But I think they might not go through that route though :(
Well, you shouldn't! Eloise, she's not a lesbian in the book, just like Benedick is not bisexual, and it would be nice if it stayed that way! This is getting violently out of line with the theme of the story! With a character that doesn't exist in the book, it's not disturbing, but it would be here! Eloise and Pen are hurt by the loss of a deep friendship, but that's about it.
It was unexpected but welcome. I liked knowing more about Cressida tbh
I liked that they showed a different side to Cressida, doesn’t negate that she was a bully but paints a much better picture for us to understand. It’s clear she’s in a way jealous of Pen so I hope they address that in the second half, you don’t just bully them steal a girls best friend for nothing. It’d be a good book end to her character considering what she does in the second half plus it’d give Pen the well deserved apology or at least acknowledgement
But yeah strange how of all people Eloise chose Cressida as she did harm her eldest sister Daphne too as well as her ex best friend. Unless this is a long term revenge ploy of hers
Well she never harmed Daphne, they compete for the same man and Cressida did see Daphne go into the garden with Simon but didn’t have a chance to tell anyone and Eloise didn’t know about that
Historians: And they were Friends. Just Gal Pals. Pals who were Gals!
Endgame for me fr
Woke.
Most people blame Eloise, but I think Penelope is more guilty. Yes, Eloise was not a very good friend and she had mistakes. Most of the time she didn't understand Penelope. Because Eloise is a Bridgerton and she is used to the attention she receives, even if she doesn't want it. So she couldn't understand what was so bad about Penelope not getting attention. But other than that, I think she has every right to be angry at Penelope. Imagine that your best friend has been keeping a big secret from you for years and then spreads a big rumor about you. Anyone would be angry. Moreover, even after Eloise learned about Penelope, she continued to write bad things about her family. Then she got engaged to Eloise's brother. Frankly, if it were me, I would have reacted much harsher to Penelope. Moreover, despite all this, Eloise still wanted her to remain unharmed and still cared for her. However, no matter what, I want them to reconcile and continue their friendship in a healthier way.
Eloise accidentally outing Colin and Penelope’s arrangement in episode 2 is probably why Pen didn’t tell Eloise she was Lady Whistledown in the first place. She is so sloppy and cannot keep her mouth shut for the life of her. If she had told her her secret, she would’ve probably accidentally blurted it out where someone would overhear. It’s also probably why she didn’t tell Eloise about her feelings for Colin either. Like Cressida said, she’s indiscreet.
Besides, Pen saved Eloise from getting her head chopped off by the Queen. And she saved Colin from being in a loveless marriage by Marina.
I understand Eloise's anger toward Penelope but I've observed how she was as a friend toward Penelope. She often talked at Penelope instead of talked to/with Pen. Yup. Eloise was so self-absorbed. Although in this season, she started to realize this when Cressida actually put her on her place. It's so wild to me that Eloise is starting to listen now that she's friends with Cressida. Eloise is also 'sloppy,' she's not subtle at all, so I totally understand why Pen didn't confide in her. The article on Eloise on season 2 was to save her from the Queen. And per season 1, Penelope revealed the truth on Marina to save Colin (whom of course she totally was in love with) from a 'scam' marriage.
Yupp..that's exactly what I thought..
All 3 characters have deeper reasons for what they did. Penn had been writing knowing all the while Eloise was passionate about figuring out who Whistledown was because she is a lady who broke down barriers, barriers Eloise hated and revolted against any chance she got. Penn knew this, and had the nerve to say "not everyone can be a pretty Bridgerton!" which cut deeply because Eloise did not want to be reduced by the very thing the entire Ton thinks of the Bridgertons. I think that was a heavy blow that Eloise never got over. Penn got in way over her head and chose to write the things she did. Now she is facing the very real consequences from 3 seasons of writing about people, which while incredible during this era, has its dangers and she knew this. Many women wrote under male psudonyms at this time. Penn is brave for staying true to herself but what she writes impacts real people. She exposes everyone's secrets and could have told Eloise. Even if Eloise is brash, I doubt she would fumble that. Even if she did, no one would believe her because Penn is a wallflower. Eloise is always looking for ways to advance herself and other women in a time they were controlled. She and Penn could have worked together.
Cressida is a product of her family. She has not been nor does she understand how to love or how to let people in and be vulnerable. Her parents make her life hell and every chance she had was taken from her. But Eloise still protects Penn from Cressida. This scene speaks volumes and I hope Cressida gets a match soon and Eloise and Penn make up. Excellent acting all around in this scene
Penelope only revealed Eloise's secret because the Queen believed Eloise to be lady Whistledown, Penelope just wanted to save her friend from being falsely accused and dealing with all the disdain that would come with that. But i can totually sympathise with Eloise being betrayed and understand why she is shunning Penelope, given all the gossip lady bridgerton shared about her family, who always welcomed and helped Penelope.
I love the red head's necklace. Its adorable 😍
yes it is. her name is penelope
It hurts like damn...
Yeah that was a friendship I never expected.
I hope Eloise and Penelope will patch things up and become friends again. Especially if they do end up becoming sister-in-laws, I don't want them to hate each other forever.😥
The fact that Eloise and Penelope will become sister in laws
I really hope the make up at the end of this season 😢
Everyone is excited about Penelope and Colin getting together while am here hopping that Eloise and Penelope get back together, best friend breakups are the worst...i like Cressida and Eloise dynamic but Eloise and Penelope belong together 😭
I know this is just a show but I hope teens / young people that might watch this learn a lesson. P screwed up said she was sorry but it wasn’t enough. And E knows this would crush her-- it’s cruel. Very mean spirited. Hope the lesson from the show is you do not have to hurt the other person to get your point across. Being friends with a bully especially one she knows bullied P the entire time. E has now become the villain. She even apologized several times. I don’t like the route the show took with this character
She literally stopped Cressida from insulting Pen and didn't join her in taunting her, how did she become a villain? And not the best friend who has been talking scandalous shit about her family on a publicly read paper behind her back?
@@atobiteadedunjoye1207 I didn’t remember that part. I see you point as well.
Eloise protecting Pen from that dress of urine burn.
urine burn 😭
The way they both stare at eachother with sadness and anger reminds me of Anne with an E when Anne and Dianne had a big fight and saw eachother again 😂 those two are bestie goals❤
I hate people siding with Penelope like yeah she had problems but what she did was absolutely disgusting and horrible..her first instict was to gossip and leak her best friend's ,who trusted her, personal information and if that wasn't enough she targeted her family ..not gonna lie if somebody did anything like that to my family the next thing you know is me giving a speech while they better be in their graves right next to me. STOP victimizing these people who treat them horribly and expect them to forgive those guys.. it's rude and honestly wrong so while she should admit her mistake I would never be able to trust her again
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Eloise accidentally outing Colin and Penelope’s arrangement in episode 2 is probably why Pen didn’t tell Eloise she was Lady Whistledown in the first place. She is so sloppy and cannot keep her mouth shut for the life of her. If she had told her her secret, she would’ve probably accidentally blurted it out where someone would overhear. It’s also probably why she didn’t tell Eloise about her feelings for Colin either. Like Cressida said, she’s indiscreet.
Besides, Pen saved Eloise from getting her head chopped off by the Queen. And she saved Colin from being in a loveless marriage by Marina.
@@garlantyrell6368 Agreed, Eloise is sloppy because she’s always had the privilege to do so and rarely considers the consequences of her actions (hanging out with Theo, chasing Whistledown, publicly commenting on her siblings private ongoings) until it’s too late.
Agreed bc she puts on a ditzy, kind person externally, she's easily victimized by people.
Bingo.
@@garlantyrell6368 she sloppy maybe but no one knows about Penelope yet even if they are not friends anymore people just doesn't give her credit.
She would never have revealed it if Penelope confesses to her.
The redhead has ONE expression.
As a book reader.... I'm fuming.
Tell me why! 😳
Tell me why! 😳
@@NaturallyWit none of this happened.
Major book Spoilers below:
Never in any of the books where Pen's secret identity exists does she Ever make up rumors about Eloise. Eloise also never was with the guy (I forget his name) from the print shop.
After book three there's a big time jump to book four with Colin and Penelope, and her secret identity plays a good part in book three too which is why the TV seasons shouldn't have reordered themselves. Because when Sophie is arrested it's Penelope's secret identity that helps the family to find where she is and free her, it's also mentioned a couple of times by Sophie how much Penelope's secret identity means to her because she finally feels seen by someone when mentioned and is only ever talked about highly. No one knows her secret identity until the middle of book four, up until then even at the end of the third book when she says she's tired of writing about everyone else and wants her own life, no one knows who she is, us readers find out when Colin does, and although he's upset, he's proud.
And Eloise isn't even around when they tell the whole of London about who Penelope actually is (which also btw she was only Ever courted by Colin alone, he realized quite quickly that he loved her and he was never mad at who she truly was, he was very protective and actually jealous of her because she was published and he wasn't due to the fact he also writes but is scared that he wouldn't actually be successful in his own right) due to her being blackmailed. Eloise was in the country side being courted by the man she marries and Francesca was in Scotland getting married to her late husband's cousin, all three of them overlap.
Eloise wasn't even mad with Penelope either. Cressida figured it out and since she hated Penelope and was a broke widow, she tried blackmailing Penelope for all of her fortune gained over the years, Colin goes to his brother Anthony and together with Simon they decide that the only way out of the mess is to out Penelope while Colin holds her hand and makes a speech about how much he loves his wife. Lady Danbury was proud of Penelope the whole book and helped encourage the relationship between her and Colin to happen.
It's a damn good series that I highly recommend. I know I gave away a few good chunks, but there's still quite a bit more unspoiled and it's very good. And even what I did spoil, it sounds so much better how it's written and how it plays out in the books.
Another thing I hate about the show is they take some parts from some couples and shift it to other book couples instead. Example: Kate falling from the horse? Nope, that was Daphne in front of Simon while he believed her pregnant with their child, scared she and maybe even the baby dead, despite fearing having children.
It's hard to enjoy the show after reading the books, because they changed so much. I give the actors credit, it's a damn good show, but when you know the books, you can't really enjoy the show, unless of course you hated the books and wanted a rewrite.
Also...there's no Queen Charlotte written in all these seasons like she is in the show, which is kinda sad, because she's so awesome, but yeah she's a complete show add on. She does get her own book which I haven't read yet, but as for the Bridgerton books...she doesn't exist.
I really enjoy the books but nothing this season has me fuming, I was more upset by how they changed Kate's relationship with her sister last season (I loved her relationship with her sister in the book).
For some reason this season the changes are dramatic enough that I think they almost had to change it up wildly so people who read the books would still be surprised by how everything resolved, and for me I do feel invested in this storyline. I think the one element I still miss about this season is that they didn't age up the characters. I think Penelope actually being on the shelf and Colin having years worth of travel rather than months made elements of the book more compelling that fall a little flat on screen (for me).
@@WitchOracle that also really upset me. I had seen the show before reading the books, so up until the engagement I kept waiting and waiting for this whole thing between Anthony and Kate's sister and it never did. I was so disappointed in how the show did something so betraying between them when in the books Kate's sister was never even interested and she was overjoyed that Kate and Anthony became engaged, she saw the love between them before they did. It was beautiful.
It hurts
True, but I loved that El prevented Cressida from commenting on Pen's dress?
I hate it, and the fact that they’re trying to give Cressida a redemption arc 😒
😀 still Cressida will always be Cressida
They're showing us why Cressida is so mean too. Her homelife is horrendous.
Yeah Cressida can be a bitch but it's always been shown since Season 1 that she has a human side.
I.e. that scene where she almost begs Daphne to give her a chance with Prince Friedrich.
@@bi_smthshe does have a human side but she doesn't even treat pen like a human, I know bullies almost always have a sad back story and that does make me feel bad for them but that doesn't make them any better of a person. Though I do suppose she is a good friend to Eloise, at least that's what's shown till now.
@@lifeiscool10no los hace mejores, es cierto, pero en cierta manera es interesante ver el trasfondo de un personaje y no ver solamente arquetipos vacíos unidimensionales
I would never forgive a friend that befriends someone who bully's me constantly (no matter what's happening between the two of us)
As if you'd even have the right to do so in the first place after outing your friend's secret nearly destroying her reputation in society and shit talking her family for three seasons on a publicly read tabloid lmao. Also, Eloise literally saved Pen from being humiliated by Cressida, she didn't stay silent and watch Pen be insulted nor did she join Cressida in making fun of her either. Pen has NOTHING to forgive Eloise for.
I SMELL THE GAY!! SLAY
Eloise brings best in cressida though
Parched with thirst?
Элоиза боится Пенелопу здесь. Даже то, как она окликнула Крессиду, похоже на спасение щенка от змеи😂
I tried all these at Sephora yesterday and Pogo is my favorite for my olive skin that tans easily.
I do have a Bobby Brown eyeshadow stick in Golden Bronze that I got through Ipsy that looks very similar on the eyes, so I am not convinced I need it even though it’s more product. Maybe I’ll pick it up once I use up my BB stick but it’s definitely a great color.
WTF lmao
Season 2. I didnt like it, but I still would watch your take on it.
I don't like the way they did this. Compared to the books this is extremely out of character
I don't know, I like it this way.
🙏🤍✨🙏🤍✨🙏🤍✨
Please be careful who you marry. This is scary. This kind of person can harm you. She seemed ready for that and not shocked. Please be careful!!!!!!!!!!
Cressida is poison. Eloise needs to make up with Pen
Wasn't always a fan of Eloise in all seasons.
The dresses people used to wear back then were hideous.
These dresses aren't even correct of the time period
Na mate imagine bridgerton as historical fantasy. Look up real common fashion trends of the time to truly judge it. Anyways, taste changes thru the times, im sure you probably have changed your opinion on some trends that cycled thru your lifetime, or disagreed with older relatives about how you feel about certain clothes. Taste can be acquired, and our current social context influences it and how we percieve everything else...
@@juliaboskamp9666I was about to say, it's hard to even tell they are going for Regency any more, it's a complete and utter mess. It's why I can't watch Bridgerton the hair, make-up and clothes irritate me too much.
'I'm parched with thirst'?
The word 'thirst' is completely redundant here. Who writes these horrible, fake 'oldtimey' dialogues? It sounds so cringe and is the main reason, I can't really enjoy this series. Either let them actually express themselves like well educated aristocrats of the time period or use modern language.
redundancy in language is not uncommon and can sometimes be used for emphasis or stylistic effect. so while it may be technically redundant, it's not necessarily incorrect or unusual in everyday language usage.
@@anonimuselle
I know that. But this particular example sounds ridiculous. I could write better dialogue and I'm not even an English native speaker.
@@raraavis7782We know you’re not, or you’d say “native English speaker”.
Native English speakers (and native speakers of any language) know that real casual conversation is full of weird choices like this.
Google “lamella orphica”. Maybe Cressida is well-educated after all. There is also a recurring motif of Greek references in this season.
@@Cab1726
Look. It sounds ridiculous. You can't argue that away. Certainly not by comparing this to ancient Greek. Someone like Jane Austen would be your reference point here. I've read plenty of literature from the pertinent time period and it sounds nothing like the dialogues in Bridgerton. Cheap, badly written, 'faux historical' 'bodice rippers' do.
If you're a fan of the series, I'm sorry I apparently hurt your feelings by voicing my critique.
If you like this show, good for you. I think it's very badly written. We will have to agree to disagree there and I'm not going to respond any further, as this seems an entirely futile conversation.