Should iRacing Be Worried ? ┃ I think So And This Is Why
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2023
- Low Fuel Motorsports with Assetto Corsa is truly excellent, and I believe it easily rivals, and in some ways surpasses, what iRacing has to offer. Especially for less competitive sim racers seeking reliable hourly races with safety, ranking, structured goals, and a focus on clean driving. The question arises: How will this impact iRacing, and should they be concerned? Or is iRacing secure enough with a substantial user base, potentially loyal users, that they need not worry? This is the subject of our video and the discussion we are about to delve into. So, buckle up, and let's explore your thoughts. Either way, the competition is intensifying next year, and sim racers will undoubtedly have a plethora of options for online ranked racing
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Thanks for watching guys , really apricate all the subs likes and mega live stream viewership we have had recently !
iRacing For now still has the most compettive fields and largest range of content , but with the quality of racing in LFM and the fact LFM with AC is is basically free or £6 a month then when you consider RF2 ranked and then all the ranked sims comming next year , I think iracing really might have some stiff compeition to beat !
As an Australian I'll stick with iRacing, the 150 ping to iracings American servers is a world of difference to the 300 ping of LFMs EU servers.
Australia is not a real place , you want me to believe that kangaroos are not a CGI made up animal , absolute joke
same in south america, people cry about iracing's netcode but AC netcode is worst with large ping, car instead of lighty rubbing with the other car (a classic iracing 0x), both cars rebound far away like they are made of rubber in AC
This is the same issue I came across. It's not terrible but it separating netcode (smoothness of other cars) to collision netcode it's a tough choice. Racing in RF2, AC and ACC compared to iRacing the smoothness isn't there but the collisions are a lot better. Honestly if iRacing could sort out the yeet collisions it'd make a world of difference to the close racing.
Being in New Zealand I find that I just end up in a high ping iRacing server anyway and even when it's low ping iRacing netcode can be very random with ghost collision that has basically trained me to not battle. I was so surprised when I switched to rf2, I don't even think about netcode in that sim.
Thanks for the heads up . Fellow Aussie here and was thinking about LFM but if the ping is horrible I won't bother. I hate games that don't support our region and they expect us to play lag fests and somehow be competitive lol
I regret watching this video
I regret getting this far into the video. My day is ruined & my joy is through the roof. Thank you.
AC with the endless amount of free mod tracks running in LFM is game changer. Imagine running super fun tracks like Riverside and Port Newark online. I'd like to see some RSS and VRC cars run in LFM also.
90s enduro at riverside pls !!!
RSS will come to LFM, as CEO says
I choose to believe you random internet person. Great news! @@Marocco2
RSS's GTM and Hybrid coming for multiclass
Design an integrated UI like iracing and then have a discussion... I think what will hold LFM back is how disjointed it feels between the website and link to AC currently. I also appreciate the voice chat in iracing. My 2c.
Connecting to races from LFM isn't that disjointed. You click join on the site and via CM it connects you directly to your race and split! It's really quite simple and easy! It's really only 1 extra step over iRacing!
That being said, I do hope Kunos have reached out to LFM to potentially provide an integrated experience with AC2!
@@yobdrzl I agree with you totally, my comment comes from a place where I was totally new to the setup and how it works. It does work, and it works well, but from a new users perspective, it was a little unclear, perhaps clunky to start with. Especially getting the mods loaded in and the Penalties app working properly. Looking forward to AC2!
The big problem for LFM is going to be licensing. Ultimately the service will need to be funded for sustainability and if it grows to any significant size it will get shutdown due to the use of unlicensed content.
i think the problem for a good chunk of people is the pissing about going here there and everywhere to start/plan/do races as apposed to just doing somehting natively
Lol been hearing this for over a decade now. There's a reason iRacing is still on top
Yes it's called a lack of other sims with ranked matchmaking
@@GamerMuscleVideos lmao right...its always some excuse. Lmk when this overtakes iRacing
@@robertmarks8885he just likes to make videos saying how good AC is and Iracing is going to die yet no hasn't happened.
It's his opinion but he talks like it's fact.
If he's in races with people who can't do laps with in 1 second of each other then he needs to get into better races with a better ir 😅.
Video number 1350 about if iRacing should be worried about something!
Its needs to be more streamlined for people who are not good with troubleshooting mods. Sometimes i spend a hour or 2 fixing the mods to race.
LFM is good but as per the other comment, ping is a problem for us in Upsidedownland with CGI animals. In the last update iRacing improved their implementation of OpenXR and VR experience has improved (for my Quest 2)
The braking in Iracing is top tier.
Yep. And it’s not even close.
That's what I love about iracing . Braking for oversteer understeer. If ac could add that I would be switching over.
The braking in AC is top tier.
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Sure, but tyre model....
Like you said; «most simracers are boring 30+ old people with just one hour to race». They don’t want to spend that hour installing mods. And there has already been issues with versions of the le mans track, which eventually was switched to an entirely different mod. Meaning, if you spend the time to race today you may need to do the same a few days later to race again. RF2 on the other hand will cater to these guys by giving them a button to click within the ui, and then you get a new button to join. I have had a great time with AC on LFM so far, but I think the only way iracing would get worried is if they drink the same amount of tea that you do
Well, even boring 30+ old people should have basic technical knowledge especially with having a sim racing setup. With the content manager setting up asseto corsa takes less than 30minutes which I can confirm cause I did it recently..
i dont get the correlation with boring and 30+ that mkes no sense. Most under 20's are the boring ones, they have pretty much done nothing in real life lol
@@yobdrzlbut that's another thing to do before you can racd
I'd say one problem for AC @ LFM could be licensing - i.e. lack of it in case of lot of the 3rd party tracks and cars. Which of course can be avoided by using just the official content, but that would cancel the biggest advantage of AC.
4:30 Man got done dirty. Sent into the pits and got a speeding penalty to boot XD
Time will tell but I don't see iRacing getting upended, particularly once weather is implemented in 2024.
Most People can’t race in the dry never mind the wet! It will be destruction derby for iracing
@@chrisparry4461acc has same issue ppl still race it. So ur argument?
@@chrisparry4461 it isnt good news, so long as it stays away from ovals :)
@@chrisparry4461that's a you issue. I'm 3.4k driver and don't have many bad drivers in my races. Get good kid
@@volkarach0293not to mention nothing beats iracing penalty system
I regret getting this far in the video...! It's a shame it's taken this long for something like LFM to hit the mainstream, iRacing could have done with the competition 10 years ago. I've been on iRacing 13 years and the fact they still have the same issues they had back then (FFB, unpredictable damage model etc) shows how stuck they are, I hope they are worried. I'm today's first new LFM member, can't wait to try it out.
Thank you for your insight. It helped me understand where I want to start as I already own ACC but have not played it yet.
Great video, which UI addon are you using to see the nearby vehicles?
The MAJOR advantage of LFM in AC is the possibility to race with "normal sport car". in ACC, IR, rf2 it's only racing car.
Can't wait for some historic cars.
I’m an oval Iracer but I want to learn road racing. I’m getting tired of being nickled and fined for cars and tracks.
Because of this video, I downloaded Assetto Corsa and am setting it up now.
Thanks for the comparison!
I was on the same grid as yourself for the Sarthe LMP3 race. It was super fun. Just have to figure how to not have the penalty calls appear right in front of my face and to do enough qually laps to get the fuel load right. Newb moves I know, but overall was super fun!
Great video. I'm feeling a bit gutted as just signed up to iRacing..
Competition in the ranked racing market has gota be a good thing
I don't think so. iRacing still has a massive userbase that is dedicated to that sort of competitive environment and already dumped massive amounts of cash in the game. It also has a more consistent level of quality, whereas AC really depends on the quality of the mod. And while there are issues with the handling of iRacing, especially when it comes to recovering from slides, the physics model is still more in-depth especially when it comes to things like suspension and the way the car moves on the track (it's so satisfying watching replays in iRacing because of that), and I find myself still enjoying driving iRacing more. Now that rain is coming in future updates, I'm even more excited when it comes to the future of iRacing.
Visually the car movement looks better in iracing for sure , but as soon as you try to drive in a totally natural way for how one would drive in reality the cars physics brake so one has to literally under drive all the time and drive in a super specific singular way that iracing forces.
Race Room , AMS1 , RF2 and AC don't have this issue and ultimately allow one to drive in a much more natural way even if all the sims have specific issues.
Once iracing fix there tire model getting stuck in a slide as soon as tires get warm then it will be a way way better sim.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Sounds about right. And the FFB, which is also abysmal. I do think AMS1 is the better one of the bunch, shame it's multiplayer is a pain to get going and you basically have to join a league. AC sometimes can feel like the tires are too rigid.
A thing that you have not mentioned but that can help iRacing is the fact that oval racing in AC mostly sucks, while iracing was created firstly for it
but oval racing is boring and mindless
@@siahfishin5295 lol you talked about it just after the atlanta race?
Tried AC and LFM for a couple week for budget reasons, but having to wait 2 hours for a race to improve my safety rating made me went back to iRacing
this thing also requires setting up a shitload of mods which will turn down some people, there is a lively rf2 online scene which is more approachable with great variety and i prefer it these days
Been bangin' my head the whole time , thx for the content
Video comes right on time for me been doing iracing for a year and doing pretty good just got AC and wondering about LFM. Man talk about being at a crossroads. I guess it depends on what I really want? Love your videos btw..Thanks
Great conversation 🏎️🤟🏾
Been having a ton of fun on AC LFM
What are those apps you have? Below the rear view mirror and the scoreboard?
Hello mate, can you tell me what's the leaderboard mod you're using? Thanks in advance :)
Its a hard pick between a subscription model that no matter how much dlc you buy you don't own unless you keep paying for the sub each month or a game that feels, looks, and sounds better for $12 on sale. But instead i play Rf2 because its better for online racing right now.
@JaradPaul01 one is a game model the other is a service. Just like going to a gold course
I don't think Iracing is worried about that, for me, AC and Iracing are totally different racing experience, but in general this is a great thing for more causal sim (but also experienced) gamers! The variety of car-tracks combo could be a major point in AC, I think it will be very fun doing some race in LFM for a lot of people out there
Yeah its so different, AC is far better for people that want to have the feeling of driving the car, iRacing is for gamers that are happy to being bent over someones laps and spanked over and over again with issues that never get solved and more money they don't earn themselves recurring being wasted
I'm just about out of rookies in iracing but an experienced SIM racer. In order to take part in every round of gt4 coming up, I would need to spend the best part of £200 on tracks alone. I'm not a broke boy but that is very hard to justify when there's already plenty of race sims that I enjoy most of the time.
Come join the Clio Cup, a high percentage of free tracks next season and great fun to race!
With a bit of mix and match between series, you can race every week without spending quite that much on tracks. Plus, there is a discount for 6 pieces of content. Also, the buying reduces after the first season. You may also find a series you prefer to GT4. Those cars are dead to drive after the FF1600...
Enjoying the rfactor2 online system , zero need to return to iracing
Yeah, sure. At the moment (21.00 CET, Sunday, prime time in Europe) there are 511 drivers on LFM distributed along 4 games (AC, ACC, RF2 and WRC). Meanwhile iRacing has 13k+ online users, almost 300 racing the MX5 at Okayama. I've been on the service for about 1 year now and I don't regret every single cent spent on it. And I really want to see the casual racer downloading the game, then a bunch of mods, then register on a 3rd party website, then try to set up the FFB properly and then, at the end, join a session just to chill... 😂 Let's be clear, iRacing is not perfect, like no other sim is as everyone has its virtues and its flaws, but saying that LFM in a sim not supported by the devs since years can be a threat to it is a nonsense. People heard it when LFM started with ACC, then when it arrived to RF2 and now with AC, but still...
Today at 7pm CET on Mazda there were 700 drivers in 31 splits for a single timeslot.
That's almost as much users AMS2 and rF2 put together get in a MONTH according to steam data.
Also iRacing got 113000+ unique drivers in the whole Season 4 of 2023.
And here he rambles about LFM ever catching up to iRacing.
Yeah... SURE.
Delusional is the word.
@@Blerpa and it's week 13, the week with the lowest numbers... But the fact that James says that it's easier for casual racer to drop in LFM on AC just to chill and have a good time once in a while that's completely nonsense to me. Not that iRacing is good for it either, considering the business model based on a monthly subscription, but at this point for them RF2 with the new online mode is way more feasable and easy to jump in than AC+LFM, if you're looking for something different than iRacing.
Yeah, Kodak said the same thing.. Sure, ppl are going to buy new cameras instead of just buying a cheap roll of film, not gonna happen....
@@RockyTM_301 but, as far as I know, Kodak produces films, which were something used in a market they had zero control over. Camera manufacturers switched the market to digital, Kodak could do nothing to prevent it. Yours doesn't sound like the best example you could come with.
By the way, at the moment numbers says 209 drivers on LFM servers (along 4 games), while only the MX5 Series on iRacing had 27 splits of 20 racers each. When LFM went to RF2 it was hailed like the next big thing. Do you know how many drivers are registered for the next race starting in 10 minutes? 1 (one).
And to be clear again, I hope that LFM succeeds, because more competition between devs is nothing but good for us. But you have to evaluate real numbers at the end and as of today, LFM has beaten nothing.
That's all fine and good for Rookies but after playing iRacing for two years I would open up the UI and just not have to drive to join a race. iRacing feels like a chore after a while. But I don't feel that way with Assetto Corsa and rFactor2 but the thing that held me back was no ranked servers, now that they have it it's hard to get any work done. I think it comes down to how the sim feels and the enjoyment you get from it. Rf2 with it's dynamic weather and tire compounds is just on another level than everything else. If iRacing can match or better rf2 I just can't see myself coming back to iRacing.
I see the paid subscription + paid content as a plus on the iRacing side.
It's sad to say, but just like a high rent area keeps you away from a lot of troubles, a paid subscription on a game filters out all the kids who are only there to play wreckfest.
It doesn't at all.. I have done thousands of iracing races it's full of crazy kids and people with 0 race craft and out right wreckers especially in top split and in a bunch of series.
So no the fee to play doesn't make the racing better it's moderation / ranking and structure that has the biggest effect.
absolute garbage
What content do I need to install for AC to match what you're running for LFM
Until AC gets oval racing feeling good (it won't), iRacing has nothing to worry about.
i was literally 3 feet aay from a car last night when its wing jumped across the entire track taking s both out as tho wed hit each other at 200mph . netcode is a genuine joke sometimes and the damage model, jeez, smack someone and get 20sec damage, touch a spinner and get 12mins
If you enjoy oval racing then you're going to be on iracing for the foreseeable future. I do appreciate iracing's commitment to improvement. They're always moving in the right direction and you know that they aren't getting shut down anytime soon. The price for iracing is the biggest hurdle. Tough to justify hundreds per year. But compared to other vices e.g., drinking, smoking, gambling, at least iracing is cheap.
i dont see it as a vice, a vice i consider detrimental to ones health, hence you use negative 'hobbies' We can only compare the cost of racing versus the cost of other racing options. Therefore it is actually expensive. I dont really run most series cos i cant justify buying 10 new tacks for every car i wanna try. however that doesnt mean i think iys bad value for money, thats another discussion
Commitment to improvement? Maybe the first 6 or 7 years (I joined in 2009), then it's only been about new content and money, a working dynamic track which lasted 2 years before getting totally destroyed by a tyre model "upgrade" which turned out to be complete trash from the beginning, and it's been that way for what, 4 years? I wouldn't call that commitment to improvement. And I'll stay away from them until they really start to address their ridiculously flawed tyres and the inevitable exploits that come with it.
I would like them to be worried and become cheaper but I don´t think they are worried at all atm
I had the exact same thought. It was the 1st thing came to my mind as I was getting into the video
I actually *don't* want iRacing to become cheaper, if they do that I would see it as a sign that they are throwing in the towel, because they feel unable to compete. I want to see them using that cash flow to continue innovating and making their service the best. If they can do that, I'm happy to keep paying for my subscription. That said, it is also good that they are being challenged by competition, because without that they won't feel the pressure to innovate.
Can I ask you what is that time leaderboard? It looks very nice!
Hello from Canada, first view of your channel and totally enjoyed your content until you said “enjoy your tea”, however I’ll forgive you on this lapse.😀 I have just started the new FM and must admit I really enjoy it and now I’m getting all these Sim Racing channels. Who knows where this will take me?
Into a dark world that's filled with regret.
I regret getting this far in the video! I did get in on the Iracing sale for 75US a year for 2 years but I found out that the cars I like to drive there is very little if any participation. Maybe just my schedule? I'm still trying to wrap my mind around AC2. What is Kunos going to bring to the table? This is going to be of interest to me! LFM fits my schedule the best when I want to race online. AMS2 for offline Ai is really outstanding comparatively speaking. Others to race Ai requires online connection?? Go figure. Had more to add but I'll save it, LFM LMP3 race is coming up.
Rain will affect hotlappers a lot more than the casual guys. If you can maintain a good SR without practice, you are driving conservatively, listening to the tyres, etc etc. I actually see it as a playing-field leveler.
except hqalf of tthose guys hit the rest of us
Hello! which radar is this one? i love the fact that you can see the color model of the cars
Thanks for making this I was looking for an iRacing alternative having just started in Sim Racing
I find the VR comment about AC a bit odd, as out of the box (prior installing CSP) iRacing had much better performance with HP Reverb G2, and required less tweaking. But after CSP, AC looks prettier but iRacing is just a touch sharper (most likely fixable with a lot of fiddling, in future) but both works great. Same can't really be said about Madness engine based games for some reason, I need to lower so many things in PC2 in example to get bearable results, and ACC is just PITA to get play nicely. (TUF RTX3080 OC, Ryzen 9 5900x, 32gigs 4000MHz memory, win 11)
LFM is one of the greatest additions to AC in years!
I'm brand new to sim and confused so this really helps
I'm really excited for it. I always preferred assetto corsa, it just lacked an easy way to get into competive races without crawling up someones butt.
I really hope they do a 90s touring car championship, the cars are beautifully done and I had alot of fun with them before. Would love to actually compete in the W201
For people like me who plays maybe 10-15 races in a week or two and then the next one in maybe 3 months this is perfect. I quit iRacing because it's just not worth it. I have other hobbies so this is what I always wanted. You need some practice to perform decently but I love to start my computer and be racing in 10 minutes against 15-25 human players. Btw I discovered LFM AC races thanks to your channel so thank you 🙂
Reason I prefer iRacing is I know I get the series I want every day and week. I played a ton of shooters and my main one was Battlefield, and for the last game they moved to rotating playlists for all but 2 core game modes. I hated the 2 constant game modes so every week I had to pray that the devs let me play something fun. Some weeks I had a ton of fun but then a week later it's gone. And it's the same with LFM and AC, they will rotate stuff, it's down to them what I spend my time with. But what if I want to drive 12 weeks of Porsche Cup or Super Formula? At whatever time I wish? Then I play iRacing
But I see your point how AC with LFM does the thing for many casual sim racers. The ACC side of things is actually really competitive in LFM and is not too different from iRacing's top splits. I just got tired of GT3s though
i regret getting this far in the video
also, as a sim racing noob, ACxLFM has been a great experience versus surfing the pub servers. quality of races are generally better and, like you said, it's just convenient being able to jump into the one or two races a day that I have time for. not about to spend iRacing money to do that
How can i get the colored leader board, mine is in black and white.
It’s not even just about passing them, it’s about checking them and humbling them to either justify the current costs or to price down
a question, how do you have that camera setting in asseto? look so good!
I use real head motion and basically lock the cam to horizon with that , as it stops me getting motion sick.
@@GamerMuscleVideos oh! really thanks
I for one welcome it. I just want some fun quick races. Unless you're on iRacing constantly, paying for setups or creating your own setups it's difficult to jump in and be competitive.
makes no sense, you are literally placed against racers with the same ability
Overall I think your right LFM will take a lot of Iracing members. Most of the I time would like a quick clean race trying to be quick, but not need a shower after three laps. But like you state , early days give it time to shake out.
He said the same about RF2 on LFM 😅😅😅😅
As a simracing rookie with my trusty t300 i tried many different sims and i prefer the physics and feel of it compared to the others like rfactor.
AC is the only one that has the same good feel and i use it for special cars or tracks i want to try for my own, but i dont want to go to external websites, get mods etc for online racing. I'd rather stay at my d license races in iracing just for the clear path and good rating system it gives me, the overall experience is completely unmatched.
Also i would always stay at the sim where the pro leagues are bc even if i will never be at their level, i still enjoy the feel of being in the same ladder as them.
The only thing i would change about it is the graphics, the cars look fine but the tracks and UI are undeniably ugly as hell
I regret getting this far in the video, but I also agree. It isnt LFM AC that iracing should be worried about but the combination of things to come including AC LFM. I also believe its Thanos clicking his fingers and is inevitable. Sooner or later that iRacing secret sauce will be realised to not be a secret and others will pick it up and run with it.
I believe Daniel Morad might disagree? Check out his most recent video where he answers viewers questions. He is quite clear as to why iRacing is superior to ACC. I assume the same comparison might apply to regular AC? Maybe I'm wrong. That is if you are interested in realistic handling/breaking. He says you can't even compare the two. It's not even a fair fight. I'm curious to know how he would respond to this. I'll ask him.
That being said, personally, I do appreciate the sentiment here. I'm very much interested in looking forward to pursuing LFM once I get my rig built.
AC handles nothing like ACC , morad is probably the only professional driver I know that's really a big fan of iracing.
Dave perel specifically likes ACC and GT7
Only thing that matters is AC is the most realistic and this is backed up by the fact a bald tea drinker says so.
Also max verstappen has said the original AC not ACC is the best to train with and it's really good so I think that wins.
You don't need the views of pro drivers anyone that's remotely sexy can tell AC is on another level right now.
If iracing fixes it's tire model getting stuck at the limit / overheating from basic driving and stuck in slides then it could get there.
Might and assume are key words here. ACC is simcade mostly because they made compromises for controllers. AC is fully fledged simulator.
@@nmelolwhich can be driven with a controller 😅
I’m a distinctly average driver, but have had a lot of fun with RF2 online this week, driving mid pack in rookie radicals / Tatuus, having not done a lot of online racing in the past.
Every race is full & fun. And compared to iRacing, RF2 online is free. I like LFM, but I wonder if RF2 could become the new thing instead?
Rf2 intermediate in the Porsche cup and GT3 with changing weather is on another level to AC And iRacing. I have been converted to a rf2 fanboy now lol
@@JaredPaul01 I’ll keep getting my rating up bit by bit and hopefully meet you sometime in a race! 😜
It’s really promising how many people are racing RF2 online, I hope it keeps going from strength to strength - I actually hope Reiza are watching RF2 and do something similar for AMS2 too 🤞🏼
Even was a person who races on Iracing most of the time I’m really happy about this because competition is always a great thins ultimately this will lead to iracing getting better and LFM getting better
I regret getting to the end of the video to hear about tea.... I started recently and enjoy what iracing gives... mind you was just 30 euro for a year sub through steam in black friday so i may have a different idea next year, but I enjoy the 'ease of use' of iracing and honestly prefer the physics with my low tier wheel... AC is great but i find it takes too much time of my 'old git' to set it all up and have all the cars and mods i want to have... I am much more into ACC than AC at the moment as I prefer a 'bottled' content than all the (amazing) modding that AC offers.
I like the way that AC gives you posture tips. Just before you were about to go down the hill near the end of the lap it said "Back Straight" at the top of the screen. (Lime Rock ftw).
I feel unless one of these systems is properly built into a game its going to prevent the average person from jumping on. Theres been systems like this before that seem like game changers but they ultimately fizzle out.
Yeah I worry about this too but ACC seems to have a healthy but small player base on lfm even though AC usually has 6 x the amount of current players, not sure how much of this is just drifting a cruising players... I guess time will tell. RF2 now has a good built in ranked system that's easy to use but it's had a drop off in player base since AC launched on LFM but is still ticking over quite well.
It's good to see there are options out there, but I think iRacing is still ahead by à large margin. I will gladly keep paying for better and cleaner racing, better cars, much better tracks, and even better updates.
Cleaner racing? Maybe. Better cars? Nope. Much better tracks? Probably better scans in iRacing. Better updates? There is a lot of small updates but nothing big really. Depends on how LFM develops in and what series they decide to run I might drop iRacing subscription.
Yep keep enjoying spending a bunch of money. I'll enjoy saving it and spending absolutely nothing for an experience that's just as good. iRacing is not better. Keep lying to yourself👍
Leading 3 races in a row in MX-5 rookies on iRacing just to try it out. ALL 3 TIMES I was taken out by a lapped backmarker that just turned into me while I was trying to pass and instantly ruined my race ALL 3 TIMES. Never touching iRacing again after that ABYSMAL experience that I had to PAY FOR. I had to PAY to be taken out by IDIOTS. Yeah iRacing is so much "cleaner" SMH at that statement. Getting taken out sucks in any game but it's a lot easier to deal with when you don't pay monthly to greedy crooks who can never get enough. AND I have to pay for DLC?! No. It's one or the other not both. It's either free content with a monthly/yearly sub or paid content with a free sub. NOT both. Like I said, pure greed.
Plus AC FFB and tire simulation is light years ahead of iRacing, it's not even close. Keep fanboying a company that robs you monthly/yearly when there's a one time price $20 - 30 alternative that's just as good. It's hilarious. Also are you enjoying your 20+ year old game engine with PS2 graphics from NR 2003? For a monthly/yearly subscription at that? I hope you are.
Yeah, no. LFM might be ok for Europeans but when I used it for Rfactor2 I could only find a race on Saturday mornings. Hope as much as you want gamerboy but I don’t see any free platform overtaking them. I do love them getting more competition though as it always is good to have competition but overall I just don’t see them being overtaken at all.
Dude rf2 is completely irrelevant to AC
I regret watching all your videos. But like a persistent sim racer I still do it. I’m just happy with the choices we have now. Good time to be racing pixels ❤️
I reget getting so far in the video, as someone that is thinking of getting in Sim racing, this makes much more sense till I get use to it and get the feel of sim racing.
But AC breaks my FFB on SC2 with OpenXR+Opencomposite and i cant get it fixed :(
I let my iRacing subscription lapse. I couldn't justify paying a fee to use it as well as needing to pay for content. I have AMS2, rFactor 2, AC and ACC, although I've uninstalled ACC because I hate the penalty allocation in which I lose SR when I get rammed up the brownstone!
Mine is running out in 2 days. After almost a year with iRacing I realized that:
1. I only drive iRacing when there is series on track I like. When there is none I drive different sim. Sometimes there have been like 2-4 weeks I didn't drive anything at all in iRacing.
2. I prefer sheer act of driving in AC1.
3. I am not that competitive to justify inferior driving experience for better competition.
4. I love and need variety. Ability to drive so many different cars in AC without paying is unmatched. You can't drive historic cars in iRacing. (something like RSS formula 1970)
5. Some cars in iRacing are quite bad and you can't refund them. (911 Cup)
6. Sometimes your favourite car in iRacing goes legacy and you can't drive it anymore. (Ferrari 488).
7. AC FFB adds a lot to the experience.
This really makes me think should I renew sub again.
Loved getting that far into the video 😂😂😂
iRacing has its flaws, but I feel kinda worried that nobody is considering cheating.
I did an lmp3 race, and even at the top of my gearing (which cant be tuned) I was still getting gapped on the straights while running very smooth frames.
If I was an iracing executive, I'd be lobbying to put the prices up. As mentioned, they might be better off writing off the mass market. I certainly do regret getting to the end of the video :)
To be fair they probably could and it would make people feel it was "more exclusive" and more premium , people already feel that way now due to price ( and some stuff it genuinely does to very well/better than other sims) I'd actually say if they did say £15 a month but everything unlocked which in long term would cost people more , it would really help the sim especially if they also fixed tire model and net code issues , then offered a reduced totally free to play mode.
Agreed! I'm one of the very turnip brain's that probably overvalues it because it costs significantly more than the other sims. We are irrational creatures, otherwise nobody would buy overpriced designer jeans. You're probably on to something with splitting the pricing model to suit two diverse audiences. There's been the influx of younger 'gamers' who could use the free to play mode. Then there could be a subscriptions service catering more to the middle aged motorsports fan. I think I'd keep the option to buy premium pieces of content to squeeze the older players with disposable income who probably collect the cars and tracks like they might collect RC cars or model trains. Maybe they've seen the threats and that's why iR are moving into console game development. Keep up the good work mate. @@GamerMuscleVideos
@@martin-hall-northern-soul the seperation of younger and older driver is a tiny bit ridiculous, tho the ages literally is irrelavant
Potentially, perhaps I should have articulated my point around consumer segmenting as 'people who think $12 is expensive for a car, and people who don't'. @@PazLeBon
@@martin-hall-northern-soul yeahhh ;)
wow do you talk a lot of smack about iracers. 2.5 minutes in and the last 45 seconds have been smack talk. im gone. I hoped you would have helpfull information but im not waiting around for it.
I regret getting this far into the video, and I just don’t understand why LFM is using such low quality mods for their races
I think rFactor 2 is just a test dummy for Race Control system and the endgame is for LMU to become the go-to sim for prototype and endurance racing, being all officially licensed and so, just like ACC will remain king of GT3 despite some excellent mods for AC.
LMU will be so goood
While it's not hard to get AC to work with mods, most of the time i just want to hop into a race when i have time for it. Any updates, installs, opening any browser or tool at all is already taking away from what i actually want to do.
You don't park your fun car 10miles away with zero fuel and unmounted wheels either. It's fully ready to get sended in the garage.
i regret getting this far in the video... on a side note. Good stuff!
Love the mod TCR, just need dailies :)
Could someone please tell me which apps GM is using for his HUD. Thanks
looks like Streaming Sweet for positions and Sidekick under the Mirror? I think I seen Flags as well? Real penalty for racing online w LFM.
race essentials is under the mirror, it's on AC forums somewhere, it's an old app but that doesnt get updated anymore but its good
I dont regret buying a year of IRacing as much as getting this far in this video.
But i wont get anything beyond rookie stuff for sure.
If AC2 comes straight away with built in support for third party rank systems it is going to be wild.
How is lfm handling the fact that the content in ac is by now mostly mods of different quality levels and new versions coming out etc, how is it handling potential cheating, like is there a system to detect it? Iracing might be expensive but their whole infrastructure and monitoring system is i guess miles ahead and they have the resources to curate their own content, official licenses etc. Lfm is superb for what it is, i do believe however that at some point it will be swallowed and integrated into an official sim, maybe in ac2, Kunos might wanna buy them.
I basically quit iracing because of the netcode first, and then I realize rfactor 2 was way more realistic and way less costy. I am discovering AC atm and it’s a great mix between those two. It’s not as hard as rfactor 2 but at same time realistic enough to have pleasure.
It’s perfect to have races after a day of work for me.
I very much doubt iRacing is anyway concerned about LFM. But in saying that any form of competition from LFM or LMU is good for SimRacing. We need more Sims to be able to push each other to get better and that does not happen when you really only have 1 option for competitive online.
TL;DR No, iRacing shouldn't be worried at all.
And no; I:m not a fanboy.
does lfm have accident review like iracing?
also.. I regret getting this far in the video
idk as someone who's been on iracing for a bit I just can't see myself making the switch to a sim without voice chat. the races feel so lonely and empty without people raging and stuff imho
Lol yah I agree I love voice chat it cracks me up
what about triple screens on AC? I know on ACC I half to use a software to do triples because Nvidia surround is Awful IMO. It sucks all these sims don't have a simple check this box and 3 screens will work button
I regret getting this far into the video and not knowing about Low Fuel Motorsports. 😢
I regret getting this far in the video… :-) Totally agree with you. LFM and AC is a match made in heaven for someone like me. And the racing has been so respectful. Love to drive that MX5 at the limit. Looking forward to Mugello next week. Great combo.
I regret getting this far into the video. But I have been watching you play this and I enjoy it. Dusting off the rig and going to give it a try. Thank you for the video GM, enjoyed it.
I regret nothing, but honestly I got into AC hoping to do online racing after watching too much SuperGT videos. I was disappointed by the online system but LFM is here to save my day.
James, I am one of those poor suckers with a 9 to 5 who can't practice. This speaks to me. However, the price of iRacing is COMPLETELY insignificant to me, because of the former. So, agree to disagree? 😜 (Oh BTW, I qualified right next to you a few weeks ago in the F3, so we can't be THAT unskilled hahaha)
The price of iracing and all simracing for you and people like you is more the mental toll of doing the hobby. A price that's fair greater than any amount of money
not at all, not even a price,more a payment
I just hope they add more servers, i had to wait 3 hours to jon a lobby
lmao
I watched the video to the end and for the record, I hit myself in the head with a bit of wood for pleasure, most days. But anyway, I love AC and also spend a lot of time on ACC. I would use AC a lot more but I really don't know (older person alert...) how to use content manager. I have it, I stare at it occasionally but then close it when my brain goes 🤷♂ so, would it be possible to do a video showing T Rex's like myself how to understand and use it please? 👍
I reget getting this far in the video almost as much as what I've spent on sim rigs!