The Mysteries of Mithras

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • Payam Nabarz is interviewed by Dr Robert Beckford, filmed by Juniper TV in Museum of
    London. The video gives an overview of some aspects of Mithraism, the ancient Roman
    mystery religion popular in the Roman Legions.
    Nabarz is author of 'The Mysteries of Mithras: The Pagan Belief That Shaped the Christian World' & Editor of Mithras Reader.
    Further details: astore.amazon.c...

Komentáře • 48

  • @DiscotopiaUk
    @DiscotopiaUk Před 8 lety +25

    Camera man, I don't care what this guy's head looks like, show me the relic!

  • @OAlem
    @OAlem Před 10 lety +6

    Very well done. I am currently making a video about the Mithraeum discovered in 1960 in Mérida, Spain.
    Note: Whenever he says "grade", I believe it is more precise to say "degree", especially since he compares it to freemasonry, etc. In other languages (Spanish, for example) it is only one word.

    •  Před 4 lety

      If interested..from - Excerpts from Pre-Christian Gods of Armenia (Glendale, 2007) by Hovik Nersisian (1921-2009). Nersisian is an author of many books and articles. He was a renowned scholar who in 1991, for his merits in Iranian Studies, most notably the study of the oldest surviving copies of the Avesta, became a full-member of New York’s Academy of Sciences. MIHR-MITHRA: THE CHIEF DEITY OF THE ARMENIAN HEATHEN PANTHEON OF GODS MIHR-MITHRA: THE CHIEF DEITY OF THE ARMENIAN HEATHEN PANTHEON OF GODSGevork NazaryanThe youthful God Mithra (right) symbolizing the Glorious Rays of the Sun. From Mount Nemrut Pantheon of Armenian Gods (sometimes called the Eighth Wonder of the Ancient World) erected by King Antiochus Theos (86-38 BCE) of Commagene.In the Armenian heathen Pantheon Mihr (Mithra or Mithras in Latin) was considered a supreme deity. Mihr was the personification of the Illuminating Rays of the Sun. The Grand Temple of Mihr/Mithra was located in the town of Bagaharich in the county of Derjan of the Upper Armenia province of Greater Armenia. The earliest mentioning of the worship of Mithra has been recorded in the Armenian Kingdom of Hurri-Mitanni. It was found in the cuneiform inscriptions of the Hittite capital Hattusa during the 1907 archaeological excavations. The Hittite cuneiform inscriptions mentions some of the notable Armenian Gods and Goddesses that made up the Armenian pantheon of Gods in the Mitanni Kingdom. The Hittite king Suppiluliuma (reigned between 1344 to 1322 BCE) ordered the recording of a peace treaty between himself and the Armenian king Šattivaz (reigned ca. 1350-1320 BCE), who represented the Hittite and Armenian kingdoms respectively. Suppiluliuma swears upon the great deities of Armenia and specifically calls upon Mithra to bless and protect the treaty of friendship and peace between the kingdoms of Hatti and Mitanni.As was noted, this treaty was made in the 14th century BCE, and this is the earliest recorded inscription that mentions Mithra as one of the supreme Gods of Armenia. This is roughly one thousand years before the God Mithra is mentioned in the Iranian inscriptions and the Indian Vedas. Some Indo-Iranian scholars have wrongly attributed Mithra as an Iranian or Indian deity, however as we have seen, the oldest inscription that sites Mithra as a God comes from the above noted 14th century BCE inscription that mentions Mithra as an native Armenian deity that occupied a very special place in the Armenian national Pantheon of Gods.However, what these scholars fail to realize is that in the Gathas, the earliest sacred Zoroastrian texts attributed to Zoroaster himself, Mithra is not mentioned. Furthermore, Mithra also does not appear by name in the Yasna Haptanghaiti, a seven-verse section of the Yasna liturgy that is linguistically as old as the Gathas. Many scholars have noted that the lack of any mention (i.e. Zoroaster’s silence) of Mithra in these texts implies that Zoroaster in fact had rejected Mithra. This is supported by the fact that Zoroaster did not mention Mithra was because in fact in the earliest Avestan writings both Mihr-Mithra and the Armenian Matron Goddess Anahit are condemned as “daevas” or “false gods” or “daemons” that were not to be worshiped.It was only in the fourth century BCE, when we for the first time find the mentioning of Mithras in the Iranian context as a “positive’ deity of the very radiance of the Sun in the inscriptions of the Achaemenid king Xerxes II Mnemon. The Religion of Mithras or Mithraism as it became known in the West would soon spread beyond borders of Armenia, not only towards the East, towards Iran and India, but also that of the West. Mithraic temples known as Mithraea sprang up all over the Roman Empire. They were mostly promoted by Armenian aristocrats who already by this time were prominent generals in the Roman Army. Armenian King Tiridates III is a good example, who prior to his coronation was a prominent general in the Roman Army, it was Emperor Diocletian a close friend and fellow Mithraic devotee of Tiridates who asked the Armenian king to take the challenge of personal combat from a Gothic chief, Trdat successfully stood in for the Emperor and won the tournament.
      By the second century AD Mithraism was virtually the state religion of the Roman Empire and virtually all of the Roman Emperors during this time and prior to adoption of Christianity in the Fourth century CE were high initiates of the Mithraic mysteries. Most of the Mithraic rites along with the rituals and rites were simply taken over by the newly forming Roman Catholic Church.The traditional crown of the Armenian kings 8-rays/pyramids on top of the crown standing for the Sun’s rays (symbolizing Mithra) along with the 8-pointed star flanked by two eagles facing it (also Mithraic symbolism). The Sun King symbolized the physical incarnation of the Sun God in the world and the Armenian tiara symbolized the union of spiritual and material worlds symbolized by the crown and the leather silk portion of the diadem respectively (united by the sacred thread/headband of glory). Historic reconstruction of the bust of the Armenian King of Kings Tigranes II the Great (reigned 95-55 BCE) by the gifted artist Robert Hazarapetyan.The Mithraic mysteries that began in Armenia in the Second millennium BCE, through the Roman Empire left a lasting legacy on Western society and civilization in general. Many of the customs and norms are in fact taken directly from the Mithraic mysteries (just one notable example would be the handshake, which was specifically used by the devotees of Mithras and today has become common place greeting gesture all over the world). Many of the holidays that we come to celebrate (including Christmas on December 25) also come directly from Mithraism which were celebrated by the Roman emperors and later the Roman Catholic Church. Same is true of the Christian mass that is held very Sunday. The tradition of building churches right into the caves (where the Mithraic mysteries took place) continued by the Armenian Apostolic Church well into the Middle Ages as the surviving world renowned Geghard church attests to this great legacy.The only surviving Armenian National Mithraic Temple of the Sun God Mithra from First Century CE erected by the orders of King Tiridates I Arsacid (reigned 52-75 CE). There were 8 sacred heathen centers of the Armenian Gods and Goddesses throughout Greater Armenia with countless beautiful temples in every one of these 8 centers.- Excerpts from Pre-Christian Gods of Armenia (Glendale, 2007) by Hovik Nersisian (1921-2009). Nersisian is an author of many books and articles. He was a renowned scholar who in 1991, for his merits in Iranian Studies, most notably the study of the oldest surviving copies of the Avesta, became a full-member of New York’s Academy of Sciences.

  • @isabelpojo1957
    @isabelpojo1957 Před 8 lety +5

    loved it. cameraman, please show the item, not the speaker's head

  • @lyricaltraveller
    @lyricaltraveller Před 5 lety +4

    the reason Mithraism and other pagan religions declined was because Constantine's new Catholic church which had incorporated all the most popular idea's and custom of those pagan religions became the new state mandated religion that was designed to appeal to all. so the need to keep the original pagan religions alive was no longer necessary.

    • @dwendt44
      @dwendt44 Před 5 lety +3

      The early christian church was rather militaristic about pushing out all competing religions-even by force, at the point of a sword.

  • @EricDOttaviano
    @EricDOttaviano Před 10 lety +3

    Interesting video. It was informative despite the off camera distractions. I understood them clearly enough.

  • @ninaz2120
    @ninaz2120 Před 6 lety +12

    Payam why don't you tell the truth about where Mithraism came from? Mithraism originated in Persia and as usual Europeans got a hold of it and claimed it as their own. Same character assassination is happening to Rumi and his philosophy. In about perhaps 40 years they claim Rumi was American...

    • @jamiey5779
      @jamiey5779 Před 6 lety +4

      +Nina Zomorod I think its a clip from a TV documentary. It's pretty common knowledge that Mithraism has Persian roots, no ones claiming otherwise.

    • @HeliodromusScorpio
      @HeliodromusScorpio Před 3 lety

      Mithra has indo-european origins kids

  • @Ddssa
    @Ddssa Před 4 lety +1

    Mithraism was very much connected to astrology they were very well aware of cosmos. And it’s history goes way before Romans . But Romans helped with its expansion cross Europe & turned it more into a secret society.

    • @jchristinelamb
      @jchristinelamb Před 2 lety

      Yes, absolutely. The Son (Sun) of God travels with the 12 apostles/zodiac signs.

  • @Danzelblock
    @Danzelblock Před 8 lety +3

    Ironic I was looking for your book. THanks for this video

    • @RalphEllis
      @RalphEllis Před 3 lety +1

      This was the sunset of the BBC
      - when the diversity-hire children who ran it had no idea what they were doing..

    • @Danzelblock
      @Danzelblock Před 3 lety

      @@RalphEllis you forgot to cite your asshole

  • @claudiatemplaria4939
    @claudiatemplaria4939 Před 7 lety +2

    So that means he is a skythian deity, from the samepeople the Magi are coming from and , from the same people the most known emperors of Persia belong to. Very elite.;-)

  • @mitchellrose3620
    @mitchellrose3620 Před rokem

    A male appeal for me would be to escape the ever exhausting need to please women.

  • @lyricaltraveller
    @lyricaltraveller Před 5 lety +2

    Jesus when on Earth foretold how his basic Christianity that he started and that was based wholly on bible teachings, would become apostate and turn away from bible teachings and follow instead platonic and pagan teachings. Emperor Constantine was a worshiper of Mithras and looked to him to bless his victories in battle. This is how the cross was introduced as it was a symbol of Mithras. Once he took control of the Roman empire, he sought to unify it with a new pagan religion that incorporated the worship of Mithras as well as all the most popular pagan religions and customs of the day. Since Christians were being persecuted, he saw in them an easy way to establish his new church or religion. he believed that they would be eager to follow him if it meant them becoming the dominant religion of the state, guaranteeing freedom from persecution. By the time this all took place, Jesus' brand of Christianity had already become apostate in their teachings and actions. So what Constantine created was a whole new pagan religion with the name Christian slapped on it. He called his new religion, Universal (meaning all incompassing) also known as Catholicism. This is why you see so many similarities between Catholicism and Mithraism. Most all the symbolism, traditions, customs, holy days, and beliefs are rooted in these ancient pagan religions. This is why many today see Christianity as being based in pagan religions and therefore just as fake. they fail to recognize that what they see as Christianity is not Christianity at all. And never was.

    • @zmezgar2387
      @zmezgar2387 Před 4 lety +1

      His basic christianity? That didnt even exist when he was alive if it was based on him. Get off the christianity wagon. It's all pagan religion.

  • @captiancutter7
    @captiancutter7 Před 8 lety +3

    jesus christ people, join a masonic lodge and you will learn all about this. just make sure you go Scottish Rite not York.

  • @vegtamvanderveg
    @vegtamvanderveg Před 10 lety +4

    very interesting! But the unenthusiastic teacher is very hard to follow

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 Před 6 lety +1

    Mithraism was about the precession of the equinox -the fact that the sun,every two thousand years or so, appears to rise from a different constellation from Aries to Taurus in ancient times and in our own times it's heading towards the Age of Aquarius.The Persian aspect of the religion was quite minimal except for the name.

  • @cyrusjo4252
    @cyrusjo4252 Před 5 lety +3

    so know we know the one of the biggest copy & paste in the history !!! Mithraism = Christianity ????

  • @watermelonlalala
    @watermelonlalala Před 7 lety

    Did he sat Male Brides?

  • @claudiatemplaria4939
    @claudiatemplaria4939 Před 7 lety

    First you had to be invited.

  • @RalphEllis
    @RalphEllis Před 3 lety +1

    The interviewer is called Noddy.
    - he was a diversity-hire.

  • @marshawoods9078
    @marshawoods9078 Před 6 lety +1

    The video is poor and so is the volume period. I'm sure this was a very interesting video but I couldn't finish watching it poorly done very poorly done

  • @gdismine01
    @gdismine01 Před 10 lety +3

    The mystery of mithraism is so amazing and the Brit might have an amazing mind on the subject but if he doesn't get some speaking skills all that knowledge is wasted. No wonder the Brittish Isles are screwed up. SPEAK SLOWLY and LEARN TO PRONUNCIATE each syllable so the world can share in your wisdom..

    • @etiennedegaulle3817
      @etiennedegaulle3817 Před 6 lety

      Maybe you should improve your English and stop criticizing others.

    • @j0nnyism
      @j0nnyism Před 6 lety +1

      gdismine01 yea hes not the greatest of clear speaker's but at least he doesnt butcher the language the way some of our cousins across the pond do

    • @ramchandrak1223
      @ramchandrak1223 Před 6 lety +1

      It is a common matter of Hindu scripture

    • @jamiey5779
      @jamiey5779 Před 6 lety

      +gdismine01 What? The British Isles has always had very varied dialects.

    • @211Anon
      @211Anon Před 6 lety +1

      A) He is not a native English-speaker, he is Persian-born B) He speaks just fine

  • @JayInDecent
    @JayInDecent Před 7 lety +1

    thats one curious black dude