Disturbing Secrets of the Piglins | Minecraft Deep Dive
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- There is a complicated and unsettling story to the Piglins. What secrets do they hold?
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Minecraft dungeons has a lot of things that confirm (and disprove) theories, but it also has stuff like where uniques and ancient mobs come from, it be nice if someone respected that it’s part of the lore.
Also the timeline (which game comes first) is a pretty big one.
@@thestranger1756 I view MCD as an alternate universe, as in the timeline is not necessarily the same.
Well if you want someone who respects minecraft dungeons just go to matpat on game theory hes way better
I have a question !
You talked about ancient debris, why call it that? What's the origin of this debris?
“The ancient builders dominated the piglins for personal gain”
Their descendants who are doing the same with villagers: *nervous sweating*
BAHAHAHA
And we're doing it to the piglins, too. Locking them in cells atop hoppers and using machinery to spit gold ingots at them, all while we commit genocide on their zombie brethren by mine cart cramming right above
@@LibraritheWizardOfficial
Sometimes you gotta do what ya gotta do. In the name of stonks
@@Jonathan-A.C. I need that Soul Speed III book, and that renewable quartz
would that mean our decendants will make villagers hostile the main reason piglins are likley hostile is because they hate towards the builders after they realised the truth
Don't forget the importance of "Pigstep", proof piglins have culture.
I don't think they listen to dubstep pig noises
They can't even listen to it. They have no jukebox. 😥
And they dance to it
They have swag
Forgot one thing, why are Piglins afraid from soul fire and also zombified Piglins. Why do they hate the Wither Skeletons so much?
IMO, the Piglins hoard gold for a deeper reason than that they just want gold. Lady Agnes kind of teased us in a video by Mojang, saying “They really like gold. Why do they like gold so much? And you don’t really know the history, but you understand that there is something.” I feel like that’s a hint that it’s more than just them being greedy pigs (or in this case, being taught to want gold by their creators.)
As such, my theory is that they hoard gold to stave off the zombie infection. We know that gold, in addition to its healing properties, has the capacity to ward off that pestilence of the mind - Golden Apples are used to cure Zombie Villagers. In addition, while all other Zombie types are violent monsters, Zombified Piglins seem retain a semblance of a mind, presumably thanks to the golden swords they carry and the gold nuggets incorporated into their flesh and bones. They don’t attack on sight; they only retaliate if harmed.
Not to mention that normal piglins only attack the player on sight if they're not wearing gold, which may be them getting someone who may have the infection away from them.
Basically, no gold = potentially infected = staying away (or in this case, murdering to remove)
@@solisruben296 This makes so much sense, hopefully Mojang comfirms some of these theories
Another thing is that you need glistering melons to brew healing pots (which of course need gold)
What about zombies who wear full gold armour though?
@@Amy-oh8qb Maybe the gold has a special interaction with a piglin body. Hence why therr are no half zombified ancient builders.
There's actually something else that you should consider here. Maybe the Builders weren't exploitative monsters, but instead accidental and unprepared parents. They took pigs to the Nether and the mutations you suggested occurred. They attempted to bring the new Piglin race back to the Overworld, but something went dreadfully wrong. A native Overworld microbe (probably some kind of virus) mutated in the Piglin, turning them into zombies. The horrified Builders immediately stopped bringing Piglins home with them, and returned the afflicted back to the Nether. The infection didn't spread so virulently in the Nether, due to the hot, dry conditions, however the Overworld was already doomed. Zoonosis was nearly instant, transmitting this new mutant strain to the Builders (maybe the carrier of the original strain) and flourishing in a more compatible Overworld organism. The Builders in the other dimensions would've returned home to see why communication, travel and trade from the Overworld had suddenly ceased and subsequently been infected. Transmission in the Nether would've been more rare due to the hostile environment, requiring blood contact. The zombified Piglins didn't spread the infection very often, being docile and able to live alongside the healthy population of Piglins, but the zombified Builders were aggressive and deranged, attacking the healthy Builders and infecting all of them. Thus, the civilization of Builders perished, leaving a new and dependent race alone in a frightening place with little opportunity for them to advance to the level of their creators. This also explains how the Overworld skeleton spawns in some parts of the Nether. I feel like this may also draw a connection between the wither skeletons and Endermen
Yeah, I doubt they would respect you while you wear gold and be willing to trade if you are being mistaken for ancient cruel masters. I think accidently being made from pigs is more likely, similar to how skeleton horses, super creepers, and witch villagers are often accidently made. Maybe it's from generations of pigs eating warp and crimson mushrooms.
I've wondered if wither skeletons were from endermen, since they are too tall to come from villagers or builders.
John: "Maybe the Builders weren't exploitative monsters"
All of the actual monsters in the game: *Staring directly at you*
Oooooo, great theory, I love it! Def adopting this for my own personal headcanon!
This might also explain your resistance to zombification. You are a descendant of said ancient builders, and have a genetic resistance to the zombie microbe. The others with it were killed, not zombified, leaving only you. Or maybe your characters parents(? lots of speculation) went through care to make you immune to the zombie virus, maybe using variants weakened by the heat of the nether. Certainly opens a lot of theories.
@@whitemagus2000 Maybe they are the resulted of Skeletons experimented on by The Builders.
"for the first time in 2b2t history, slave labor was used"
For the first time in MINECRAFT'S OLDEST ANARCHY SERVER.
@@ShahrukhKhan-qo9pw *The oldest anarchy server in Minecraft
the OLDEST ANARCHY SERVER IN MINECRAFT
Isn't that just the story of the big owo in 2b2t? That and RT forced people to dig down to bedrock
*Š Ł Ä V Ē Ļ Ă ß Ø Ř*
"villagers" "intelligent"
my villagers walking straight into cacti: am I a joke to you?
when he means intellegent, he means they have the ability to specialize on various professions and are able to trade, but yeah villagers aren't so brilliant at times
@@lonely_guacamole this is why villagers are often compared to humans.
Villagers creating society = human society
Villagers walking straight into a zombie and running in circles to escape = the guy who naruto ran to attack Area 51
@@lonely_guacamole p
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@@isaackashimba2000 what
Villagers are one of two(?) Species that built structures the other being pillagers (which may or may not be the same species?) So yes they are smart
Maybe the Piglins attack players because they look like the ancient builders.
That could actually be the case even though they haven’t seen ancient builders for god knows how long and also wouldn’t they just attack normal non converted pigs because they have never seen what they looked like before the transformation occurred
@@ianschuk13 the legend of the tyrannical ancient builders was probably passed down through piglin generations.
@@ianschuk13 You can't observe baby piglin becoming adult in the game. This lead us to a conclusion that their natural lifespan is tremendous. They might actually seen the precursors in person.
And why do they dont attack them if they wear gold?
@@Hallorenzo maybe the piglins start to respect you for wearing gold because it's what the piglins mainly use or something
If they were enslaved by the builders, then it makes sense for them to have an innate hatred for Steve whenever they see him, it makes sense for them to become hostile
How are they suddenly cool with us when we wear some gold boots lol
judging by how run-down bastions are, thousands of years have passed since the extinction of the builders. i doubt they carried a grudge for that long. i think they only attack because you look foreign and monstrous to them, and wearing gold gives them a sense of familiarity and understanding that you're nothing to fear.
they worship gold just that much
@@esthetic0516
“Villagers are a similarly intelligent species”
Also villagers: 2 redstone for 10 emeralds is a great trade!
LOL
Angry villagers be like
1 emerald for 2 redstone and make the redstone renewable
32 sticks for 1 emerald
The trade is actually 1 emerald for 2 Redstone
I like watching these a lot. It’s like watching a spooky late night television show or something.
Facts
For me this takes me back to reading goosebumps at night. You're creeped out but can't help but want to know more
Agreed
Yeah, I came when he made those Minecraft Icebergs, glad I stayed
ya
I’ve always just assumed the “zombie piglins from lightning struck pigs” was a reference to the Frankenstein story, with the “energy” from the lightning being what changes then from mere animal to a humanoid creature!
I always assumed that a revolt of some kind did occur, given the “War Pigs” achievement. The many deaths could have also resulted in the formation of the soul sand valleys.
i think "join me for a dive beneath the waves" is as good as "join me for a dive beneath the lava"
You are going x games mode
Your mom
Drinks fire res
@@tripwiren_1697 We* live in a society. 😔
Xd?
"Minecraft is a kids game"
The Piglins who were enslaved to mine and cursed to live in hell for eternity: Am I a joke to you?
Cave sounds
Disturbing lore
Redstone machines that can be made into actual computers, etc.
Are we a joke to you?
"Silly players, Minecraft is for KIDS!"
@Eren Yıldırım lmao, Ikr
minecraft is 9+ and im 10
It's pretty sad...
Something that he didn’t mention in the video, Hoglins. Hoglins are also not immune to fire and are rather pig-like. Perhaps they were kind of a transitional form between pig and Piglin, but the piglins split off at some point and became their own species. Maybe when the ancient builders fell the Hoglins, who weren’t as intelligent as the Piglins, ran off to go roam in the nether. Another thing he didn’t mention, both Piglins and Hoglins are scared of nether portals. Either they know the undead fate they would face if they crossed to the other side (which I kinda doubt, especially for the Hoglins), or the ancient builders used both Piglins and Hoglins for their work at some point, and trained both to run from portals, to avoid them escaping.
I think the hoglins bare resembleance to extinct real life Entelodonts, which are large, pig-esque land based relatives of hippopotami, which also have the fitting nickname of "hell pig" or "hog from hell"
@@pokechimp1544 In Minecraft Legends it shows that piglins once made portals to travel to the overworld to attack.
@@emilypoole3898 It's unclear how accurate Minecraft Legends is to Minecraft's canon though. Its a legend told by the Villagers, so a lot of the details are exaggerated or inaccurate, despite being based on an actual event.
@@lasercraft32It still provides answers to some things though. It shows how and why the piglins mined all the pure netherite.
I feel like the Piglins ARE native to the Nether, as are the Hoglins. Being fire resistant, although useful, isn't a requirement to survive. Kinda like how Dolphins and Whales need to breathe despite living in the ocean (a location where having lungs instead of gills would not be the best survival tactic). And that the pigs turning into zombified piglins is just an easter egg that doesn't have any lore merit.
The Bastions were most likely built by the Piglins too, since their is gold embedded in its architecture in the form of Gilded Blackstone, and they have chiseled blackstone that is clearly the emblem of their race (they even have a banner pattern of it). They also get mad when you open the chests near them (then again... they get mad if you open _any_ chest, not just the ones in Bastions).
Given the fact that they zombify in the overworld, this implies that the air in the overworld has the infection within it. Villagers can also be zombified, but they're resistant enough that they have to be directly infected in order to transform. Piglins aren't native to the overworld, so they don't have that natural resistance to the disease. The Ancient Builders likely brought the disease to the Nether by building the now ruined Nether Portals, which is why Zombified Piglins are present in the Nether... its a foreign disease that was brought in by outsiders. This also explains why the Piglins are terrified of the Zombified Piglins, because they don't want to contract the disease themselves. Perhaps the Bastions are in ruins because the Piglin race is slowly whittling away from the harsh Nether environment combined with the gradual zombification of their species.
Minecraft legends has them actively creating portals to the overworld though.
Sure some parts of it may not be canon simply thanks to how it is stated to be legends passed down by villagers but it does explain why some things such as the existence of ruined portals, and why illagers are the warmongering race they are now.
Would also explain how they have a hatred for wither skeletons too post-war.
"There are no portals in the remnant"
me: finds a runied portal literally 2 blocks away from a bastion
Same here,the ruined portals in the Nether is obviously built to somehow travel to the overworld,the reason is,why?
So my theory is possible.
its beacuse world generation world generation can be 1 iq sometimes
a rule violation or an accidental generation there lol
@Wesley Morisette The information that creates the world.
"who built bastions?"
me, an intellectual: *world generation*
Off topic but I thought Piglins had pupils…
@@flarelukethecomedian2555 haha same-
Rather than ancient builders, they should be called the world generators
@@flarelukethecomedian2555 the anime
Girls with pig hats
@@flarelukethecomedian2555 OMG SAME 😂😂✋
Maybe the airborne plague in the over world that turns piglins into zombies is the same one that turned the ancient builders into zombies.
THATS SO SMART!!!
sorry i’m late haha
I disagree, because if the plague was airborne, villagers would also be extinct. Notice how they have to be completely killed by a zombie before they turn into a zombified villager?
In my Minecraft fanfiction I'm writing, there are several species of ancient builders, with piglins being the only surviving ones. In my book, the piglins built the Bastions before decaying to the zombie virus. They became zombie pigmen after a long time, their ears, tusks, and snouts rotting away, and their Bastions were buried under the Netherrack. One pigman, however, found a Bastion while digging. I'm not quite sure who left them there yet - I haven't started writing yet - but the pigman found ingredients for golden apples and potions of weakness, as well as what to do with them. She healed the pigmen, restoring them to Piglins, and they dug up the Bastions.
Obviously this is taking a lot of creative license, especially the bit about zombie pigmen being around (I mostly included that to keep the nostalgic element that they are, as well as explain where they went), but I think I can develop a theory, completely unrelated to my story, as there will be things that will conflict with it, from that. What if the Piglins were the ancient builders? They lived in the Overworld, creating all the structures found scattered about. However, a zombie plague arrived, making them diseased. They escaped to the Nether, where they built Bastions to live in. They grew lazy over the years, choosing to let their Bastions rot away without repair. It got the job done, they figured, and perhaps someday they'd be able to escape to the Overworld, if only a portal would open, not knowing the zombie virus still existed to rot them the moment they set foot in the Overworld. Meanwhile, while they sat in their Bastions, the virus was rotting away at the old piglins. Their ears and snouts were rotted completely away, and their bodies were covered with green, not a speck of pink to be found. Their hooves were gone, too, replaced with blocky hands. The oldest of them were now skeletons, who were smarter and had the ability to weild bows.
There are a couple things wrong with this theory, of course. The smallest of them - why the zombies have Steve's clothes - could be easily explained by the fact that fashion changes over time. Perhaps that was the main attire of that day. The biggest of them, however, is why zombies don't have bones poking through. Zombified piglins have exposed bone all over their bodies, so if they're the same, wouldn't zombies? Why would extra rot simply make their skin green and rot their facial features away? We could assume that skeletons are the ones that had exposed bone, but that's a bit too all-or-nothing, like they either have all their bone exposed or none. This theory is a bit of a stretch in general, though, so it should probably be taken lightly anyway.
Is anyone going to mention that Piglins can sometimes trade _splash_ potions of fire resistance. This means they'd have to have killed Blazes (for the brewing stand), Ghasts (for the gunpowder) as well as Magma Cubes (for their cream). Gotta appreciate the subtle attention to lore
Edit: Of course this does beg the question - where did the water come from? Of course we can always assume that the Ancient Builders left some behind (inside glass bottles), but I doubt it would've lasted that long if the Piglins were experimenting with brewing. Plus, there would be no need for the Builders to bring water in the first place, as they'd likely already have potions on standby. There has to be a constant water source, something the Ancient Builders wouldn't consider viable...
Which brings me to my main theory - Ghast Tears. Tears are mainly comprised of water and salt. If we assume Ghast Tears are literal tears (which is highly likely considering Ghasts are always crying), this would make Ghast Tears the only natural source of water in the Nether. Upon killing Ghasts, the tears solidify but don't evaporate (which is why they can be held), but what if the Piglins were able to revert them back to a liquid state? We already know Piglins are capable of hunting Ghasts, so it doesn't seem impossible that they discovered a second, unknown use for their tears. And considering Ghast Tears aren't affected by the Nether's hot climate, it makes sense that they'd be a viable substitute for Overworld water.
But they have no water the positions must be taken of the builders
@@noisyboy7307 or piss (0:
They can barter bottles of water. They somehow get water in a dimension hot enough to evaporate the stuff nearly instantly.
@Ahmad Abdullah I don't think so -- the ancient builders have been gone for so long that they would've run out of potions. I think they use magma cream collected at their magma cube spawners.
Probably got it from the humans who brought them there
i cant wait until caves and cliffs comes out and we get theories about the warden and deepslate it will be so cool
It was a just a meme but there was a meme that said that the caves and cliffs update was a massive earthquake that created massive caverns and shifted mountains to become taller. This earthquake broke even bedrock and created deepslate.
Maybe deepslate is like basalt. Yes I know that the nether cuz it’s a different place like he said in this video. But maybe there’s technically a core but it’s replaced by bedrock because HOW CAN A SQUARE HAVE A CORE.
Yes I’m looking forward to that
Deepslate is literaly just a hard rock lol
My theory of how piglins became a thing os that, you know 😏 they had pig stables, and that just like with us humans, the ancient builders could of had some, um, mentally fricked-in-their mind ones? You see i ' m going, right?😂🤭, Some of those ones, secretly over time 'practiced' something, while they where left unauthorised, alone, they started fricking with the pigs, did their natural thing, so, some of pigs and the builders gave birth to weird pig-like creatures, so once the government of the ancient builders noticed, they complitelly banned all of those who fricked and made babies with the pigs, sending them in the rest of the Nether. Those babies where raised on how to shoot crossbows, use the Nether wood, crimson the most, how to defend them selfs, etc. Which also males sense about those Technobalde memes about: "Pigs are anarchist" ; "The last thing governments saw were pigs" quotes. One day when the ancient builders made their biggest mistake, and ran into the nether, the piglin population became so big, you know, from doing their thing, they were slaughtered, and those who did survive died of old age. So the piglins got grip of all the riches of the former ancient builder society and those who heavily fought in the battle, got scared for life, became the Brute types. Well that ' s theory, bye R.G.N!
I have a theory that the ancient builders were experimenting with the pigs in the nether so there will be no harm to the over world,they eventually transformed pigs into those piglins!
imagine how horrifying it was storing pigs in a pen and after some years finding a pig/human hybrid tribe of being ruling over some of the food source
I just wanna point out that if you hold any gold item except nuggets in front of piglins they start snorting enviously if you look at subtitles
So gold nuggets aren't enough lol
piglins: *oinks*
steve: *holds gold*
piglins: *jealously oinks*
@Farhat technically 11 cents
@@australium7374 enflation didn’t exist in the nether
@@darwin1646 no it was a mathematical calculation for a gold nugget relative to a gold ingot, which is 11% or 1/9
"The nether doesn't actually exist beneath the overworld"
GoodTimeswithScar: *YOU DARE OPPOSE ME MORTAL*
Lmao the big drill
Get a drill big enough and dimensional barriers mean nothing.
notch literally said "down here" in the nether part of his manhunt with dream
@@deadacc6338 wow i didnt know that lol
Dont let g be grain see this
I've compiled a bunch of theories and questions about this series so I'm just going to repost them in one on all these videos to increase the odds of them getting answered or maybe even made into videos
1. Do you think somewhere in the minecraft world there's a lost disk called disk 12?
2. something I want to know is what a respawn anchor is supposed to be because respawning is not something that actually happens in universe but with the bed its obvious that the actual in universe use is just for sleeping but the respawn anchor only sets a spawn point so what's it actually doing in the context of the world?
3. What are the differences between different forms of undeath? We see Zombies, husks, Zombie villagers, zombie horses, zoglins, zombie pigmen, and drowned who all just have decaying skin. Skeletons, wither skeletons, strays, and skeleton horses who just keep their bones then we see Phantoms who have a more ghost like appearance. Also as an addon to that what is a ghast because I always thought it was a ghost but it isn't so maybe it conveniently evolved like squids or something.
4. Something that I find interesting is that other creatures when inflicted by the zombie virus seem to become mindlessly violent but when horses and piglins become zombified they act mostly normal, with piglins specifically the only differences are they seem to not have the full intelligence of normal piglins because A they don't still trade and B they only spawn with Swords and don't use cross bows. Another weird detail is that zombified piglins are immune to fire which is a huge red flag for a couple of reasons because one normal piglins aren't fire immune but most other undead creatures are particularly weak to fire. Another undead mob that has weird contradictions to most undead mobs are the zombie and skeleton horses which also keep their normal friendliness and seem to be the least far gone of these undead mobs not only being still domesticatable but being even easier to domesticate. I originally assumed that the undead virus only makes humans violent but that is simply not true because Phantoms and the wither are also not friendly. The biggest weird detail in all of this is that other undead mobs seem to still see these creatures as natural allies with skeletons riding skeleton horses and withers never attacking anything that is already undead.
5. I think that the fox is most likely the most intelligent and possibly important mob that's completely a wild animal (meaning it has no building ability, doesn't exist in its own structure, can't trade, and doesn't have the ability to create a full society) I think that because they are one of 6 mobs that sleep (you, villagers, foxes, 3 illigers) which as you established in the Phantoms video is already important they also have the ability to do several other things that very few can do including using totems of undying, enchantments on weapons, and chorus Fruit, and also can sometimes be seen holding emeralds that weren't given to them and seem to care about them a bit more than other non food items which may have even inspired the villagers to hold a similar appreciation for emeralds although that and the rest of this is just speculation I think two possible explanations for this are that they could be some sort of ancestor to either villagers or ancient builders although it's kinda hard to place because they have the emerald connection to villagers but can do other things like defend themselves although it could be a common ancestor for both and then my second idea take a trip even further through speculation town and a bit into the early stages of creepy pasta Avenue with the possibility that they once were villagers or ancient builders (again it's kinda hard to place) who were turned by a magic enemy with the most likely culprit being the illigers but another possibility is that the illigers themselves might have accidentally turned some of there kind into foxes although that's unlikely because foxes are only hostile when something attacks it first and even then tend to prefer running away. Anyway foxes have a ton of weird and specific properties that I'd love to see your interpretations on.
So those are all my pitches.
Piglins are truly my favourite mob, this was amazing, it was like a piglins itself told the story :)
Then there’s the Netherite mystery. What about the fact that it’s called “Ancient Debris?”
because it's old. the piglins were forced to mine so much that the only netherite left was debris, which is old and ancient now.
I was wondering about that
Debris is in science u can search on google
I have a theory for that: the ancient builders realized that they are under the threat of an attack from the piglins they blew up all the bastions they could, the ones which survived are the ones we find and the bastions which broke down completely turned to debris, years later when the player arrives he/she finds that the debris has turned very strong under the hight pressure and heat
Oooh me is excite
You're forgetting one thing about Magma Cubes: They're immune to fall damage which means like Ocelots and cats, Magma Cubes won't take damage no matter how hard they hit the ground or how high they are from it. Unlike there not-so-distant relative: the Slime
Magma cubes must have evolved to withstand great falls in order to survive the high and jagged cliffs of the nether
@@SniperOnSunday Yeah, and the thing that separates them from Blazes is *unlike* Blazes (and Endermen) Magma Cubes are immune to water because they're similar to slimes in several ways
Its ok, just make them hit it HARDER
@@liddumananayo1070 That's pretty much impossible if there isn't a mod for it
@@samsimington5563 r/wooosh
As a theory: what if the pig being in heat for a very long time will turn them into a piglin (notting new about this but I will get into that soon). So when lighting strikes it turns them into a piglin because of its heat. But what if it is the cold that makes them into zombies. What if they die to that. When you get a piglin into the overworld they shiver. Maybe perhaps that the heat gets taken away from them so fast, it turns them zombies faster.
I just looked at the phrase, "what if the pig being in heat" and censored everything else
the electrical energy in lightning could have caused some sort of flash gene mutation. The reason they are zombified in the overworld is because of the 'virus' described by matpat. The builders may have found a way to reverse the zombification in the nether, where it is too hot for the virus to exist, and used them for slaves, and possibly to help fight off primordial withers in the nether (the nether fossils?)
There is one additional quirk of piglins:
When a player spawns a piglin in the overworld, it turns into a zombified piglin. This means that normal piglins cannot exist in the overworld. My theory is that the disease that wiped out all the ancient builders still exist in the overworld, which zombifies piglins until today.
Edit: I didn't know the game theory had the same idea, it's a coincidence
if we assume that the player is the same species as the ancient builders than wouldn't that mean that the player should become undead too?
If that's the case, then how do regular villagers exist in the overworld? Shouldn't they all be constantly zombified?
@@linus6718 I'm pretty sure they're a different species to the player and ancient builders
@Branson Ritter yeah perhaps
You stole that from game theory
why a pig turns into a zombie piglin when it is struck by lightning is because the lightning kills the pigs but the electricity is enough to keep their heart pumping.
Or the pigs turn into piglins when hit by lightning but turn into Zombie piglins as piglins when in overworld turn into Zombie piglins
@Makoto Goldfinger ffs bro stop being a downer
@Makoto Goldfinger why are you so annoying
PIG turns into piglins when struck by lightning and i have a question,,,
*Where in the f does the golden sword come from?*
*confused unga bunga*
I actually have a different theory. I believe that the ancient builders were the pigmen, the older version of villagers. Similar to how the pigmen became enderman, some would have gotten stuck in the nether, after their portals had decayed, and they became the piglins.
@DaDooD Where is it confirmed?
This is my headcanon
I agree, that is why the structures resemble pigs themselves. The piglins are probably only half as intelligent as the original pig men would have been
You should do a video on the vex, it's very different from all other mobs in the game and it's very mysterious.. I think it would be interesting to see your side of what you think the vex "is"
I’m vexed. I really have no idea. That’s a very vexing question
I hope mojang never directly explains any of the "lore" but rather leaves a bunch of crumbs that can all be feasibly correct
I once heard from a video that Mojang wants US to create our own stories but provided us with working material such as the remnants, villages and other things.
That's actually a great way to describe it, I always felt there was never a specific story being told through the universe, just very vague connections and pieces
Piglins be like: "We live in a society"
lol good comment😂
I knew there would be a comment like this and I love it
For some reason i can’t explain, why we live in a society. Where piglins... Don’t rule the world.
HOW DID I KNOW THIS COMMENT WAS GONNA BLOW UP
“a very brutal society, at that.”
I'm addicted to these videos they're just so interesting
Thanks, I love them even more now. 🐽💛
I know it's a totally separate game, and I'm still not entirely sure where it fall in "canon," but what are your thoughts on the Piglin merchant in Minecraft Dungeons? They look different from the ones found in the Nether in the base game and appear to be more intelligent, since they actually have set prices for their merchandise and trade in a more civilized manner than just having gold tossed to them and throwing back random items. That, combined with the fact that "normal" piglins are also an enemy that can be encountered in the same game suggests that maybe the merchant is a separate subspecies, or possibly a more evolved piglin from the future. Whatcha think?
you don't know how obsessed I am with ur channel, it's concerning
I appreciate it!
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Angelica, Eliza, and peggy! I love you profile pic
thankss I'm one of the biggest hamilfans like ever!!!
Same but i like it :)
The design of the Piglins is fascinating, cuz they are just so contradictory. They're not even fire resistant like their undead counterpart, so they live in an environment that's 90% deadly to them. They also hostile towards hoglins, who you'd think would be kinda like 'kin' to them. All of this seems very reminiscent of George Lucas' race designs, because you often see races in Star Wars with some sort of funny and quirky twist to them. Also, the strider to me seems like it was inspired by creatures from Star Wars as well.
I agree. The Piglins definitely give me a very ‘George Lucas’ vibe.
For the striders I assume u mean the blurgs from Star Wars?
I think the striders are based off of the silk striders from Morrowind
There hostile you hoglins cuz there scared the turn to zoglins which are always aggro
Piglins give me a strong sand people vibe.
I'm months late but I love this series! I think perhaps zombie piglins being caused by an airborne plague is looking at it from the wrong angle - What if the piglins need continuous heat in order to remain viable? That would explain why the ones made by way of lightening strikes decay so quickly as well.
man ur theories are too good and make a lot of sense. i like the way how u explain it all in a slow methodical manner. hats of to you
I feel like the original builders are like the dwemer from elderscrolls, they might have done something to turn all of them into zombies and then the piglins (like the falmer) just remained
That’s a really good comparison and I agree with you
That would explain why this lesser species lives in these bastions and can’t repair them. The ruined portals could be linked to them
Hell yeah I love elder scrolls lore
and maybe thats why Illagers are hostile with the player: they dont want the disease. but villagers dont realize this
and so, there's a zombie variant of villagers
The music in here is cinematic gold!
So gold a piglin would trade for it.
I wrote the intro myself!
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@@RetroGamingNow this is a damn awesome one man please do keep it up I love them alll
@@RetroGamingNow it knida reminds me of mario
it so gold that a piglin would trade a music disc of it for something
I wasn't on board with the heat transformation thing at first but your lightning explanation sold me
My personal head canon for magma cubes is that they are not actually native to the nether but are actually an offshoot of Slimes brought to the nether by the builders of the past. Possibly gaining their ability to survive by naturally adapting to the environment or being experimented upon by the builders and gaining their abilities either intentionally or accidentally.
Maybe they are slimes that actually bonded with magma over time, considering their magma cream can actually be crafted back into magma. This indicating it is indeed the same material, just with a diffrent consistency. The reason overworld slimes aren't able to do this is that they didn't develop a fire resistance from staying in the nether for a long time.(Or if the assume the ancient civilization was indeed involved, the slimes may have been under the effect of a fire resistance-potion while fusing with the material.)
You just made my quarantine a hundred times better
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@@amilliarde1234 cuz he posted
@@amilliarde1234 it kind of makes my brain think more and motivated studying for some reason 😅its hard to explain
@@nowimonyoah23 yeah
@@someone_8078 this scares the sh¡t out of me
You really missed to talk about a huge part of the mystery of the nether with the ancient builders and piglins, the soul sand valleys. Soul sand clearly has souls in it. When you walk on it it drags you down (like souls that holds you) and you can even see souls that become free when using soul speed enchantment. In the soul sand valleys you can hear terrifying ambience of souls screaming and whispering for help and by pain. Who were these souls? The ancient builders or piglins? Did the piglins wipe out the ancient builders in the nether? The piglins hate and attack wither skeletons who are very likely to be ancient builders long back. Piglins also run away from soul torches etc, is it because their old enemies souls haunt them? What did these huge fossils in the valleys belong to?
Maybe the souls are just any souls who goes to heII that simple.
@@laitdejabot9890 maybe the ancient builders?? Maybe piglins to? I think it has a big connection to the piglins and ancient builders.
@@s66s46 he addressed this thing in secrets of wither
Nether is not a safe place, wouldn't be surprised if countless ancients died there when mining for netherites.
I mean...... Diamond miners can fall into lava in the relatively safer overworld, just imagine how many died for those sweet juicy cinnamon rolls.
Video:What are Piglins?
Me:Uhh,babies of Steve and a pig after mating?
Dude I love your content, it’s great to actively watch or to have on in the background!!
5:06 WHY IS THAT POOR VILLAGER IN THE GROUND
Its just a game so its not like the villager has to sufffer. Though i wonder why he is in the hole. Maybe its a cured zombie villager.
Loser hole for losers
Maybe the reason why the piglins are so protective of the chests is because they were originally from the overworld, fled into the nether with those items, and eventually forgot about the overworld. Their only remaining memories are those items being important. Perhaps they think that the overworld was destroyed.
Dude, you”re making me feel bad for raiding the bastions now 😂
Sooo game theorys claim
That's so sad
I love it
I think the ancient builders taught them to protect the chests with the valuables from someone that might try to steal, that's why they attack you when you open a chest
Soo game theory's enderman theory?
One thing I noticed that I at least think wasn’t taken into consideration is that lightning can kill via extreme current and voltage causing cardiac arrest, which, in combination with the zombie plague, may be what causes the struck piglins to zombify.
No it's actually the fact that the overworld cannot accommodate most nether creatures. For example, if you take a piglin to the overworld it will transform overtime into a zombie piglin which shows that once a pig turns into a piglin, they have to be in a habitat that accommodates a certain level of heat that the overworld cannot provide which results in the mutation becoming faulty, resulting in a zombie piglin.
Lightning also makes horses into undead (but still friendly), villagers into witches, and creepers into super creepers.
@@whitemagus2000 theory: lightning intensifies mobs' intentions, e.g. horses are passive so lightning makes them more passive and controllable (skeleton horses don't need to be tamed), villagers are evil so they become witches which are more evil, creepers are explosive so lightning makes them WAY more explosive. though, oddly enough, it makes piglins neutral instead of mostly hostile?
@@joelhoon1707 actually, godd idea but not fully
Lightning seems to change mobs, amplify them and mutate them.
Especially mutate. We have creepers to charged ones, its obvious mutation. Horses to skeleton horses is also a mutation of sort, combined with changing to undead. Villagers to witches? Uuh, i dont really know, its like, the transfirmation into a ctrature that is not belonging to realistoc world - just like vampires, wereeolves and similar creatures that require transfirming, maybe witches need tk transform frkm humans too, and villahers ate only one left "human" aside of player. But maybe players are immune to transfirming...
With pigloms, its not that it changes piglins intp zombified, it chabges pigs into zonbified... maybe it chabfes pigs into piglins (mutation), and then they change into zombified, just like all nether mobs are getting zombified
Still lightning seems to have mutating properties somehow...
Piglins might have looked for Netherite because Netherite cannot burn in lava. Which means, for a species that isn't adapted to high amounts of heat, it would protect them. And perhaps even let them swim in lava (at a chest level, it'd burn their faces if it made contact with the skin) and traverse more quickly.
Piglins coming from pigs theory could be right: golden carrots can be found in Bastions. While the normal carrots (canonically) might mold and go bad in the Nether, Gold protects it. Why Gold? Because gold/platinum/copper is also used in irl medications for this reason. That reason being it doesn't create a reaction with almost all acids, which is what foods and essentially humans are made out of. (asterisk).
Which means food can be stored for even longer, and perhaps this explain why eating golden carrots give us a faster regeneration ability. While we cannot eat glistering melon (mostly because the golden nuggets are in place of the seeds, and we do not eat its seeds anyway), it can also be used in healing potions or regeneration. Corrupting it with fermented spider eye gives its opposite results.
Gilded blackstone also does not appear to "decay" like the other blocks (that are missing) from the bastion remnant, and it is one of the rarest items in the game. It is not renewable and that means we don't know how to make them, but the builders do.
Your theories are the most believable that I have ever seen! Well done on your research!
Didn’t the game devs say they were planning on removing the pig becoming a zombified piglin feature at some point because it “doesn’t fit with their lore for piglins” or something?
That was in a tweet from 2019 and it’s still in the game, so I decided to ignore it. They could have done it by now if they wanted, but for some reason they didn’t
@@RetroGamingNow also unrelated but they changed zombie pig mans to zombified piglins. Possible lore change or lore itself
When you think you've found a bastion
But it's actually a weird chunk error
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Not related to the video but k
@@Kxy2x
I mean it's about piglins and this is about bastions. I thought about it when I saw the bastions in the video.
@@jasondeng7677 hes just toxic leave him be
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This felt like a Minecraft lore movie 😂 with all the music and narration. Damn!
I love these videos you can tell he spends alot of time on his videos which is really inspiring and he gets striaght into it. Long story short your vids are great and really interesting. Keep it up 👍👍
imagine if sheep and cows were just as susceptible to heat; we'd have sheeplins and cowlins :>
Cowple
Cow orcs and sheep elves
Cowlandians and sheepels
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or they might be hoglins
“So the piglins can’t get to the overworld-“
Me watching a zombie piglin walk on through my nether portal an hour before
Yeah but if it is active then their quarantine is over
When a piglin enters the over world it transforms into a zombie piglin so the over world isn't a good place for them.
u built that portal, and since it wasn't seperated by lava, they could easily walk through
Yeah, but they are susceptible to the zombie virus (players aren’t they’re immune) so when they enter the overworld, they get infected
@@totallynotaminecraftchanne1923 shouldn't all villager turn into zombie villages if the virus is airborne and so vicious like that?
I never thought minecraft would have that much lore one day.....
This is honestly incredible, and this makes me want to play minecraft even more !
Agreed :)
This sounds like the Ancients colonized the nether for gold and netherite, similar to silver mines in Peru, the Spanish (and the builders) came across riches and (possibly) were forced to mine for the materials until the transformation of the pigs to piglins. We don't know the social structure of their society though we do know that bastions (and fortresses) were for protection and storage against the harsh nether enviroment.
Also the Hoglins could've been escaped pigs who (partially) adapted to the enviroment.
These minecraft lores makes me reminisce about minecraft back then, herorine, entity303 and shits.
Herorine??? U mean Herobrine
Herorine. Yes, herorine 😔
It's not Herorine, it's Heroin.
@@HuGo-vk4wl correct.
@@ExpiredBurrito Y E S
Ever since someone said they look like anime girls I can never unsee it
Idk man
when the snapshots first came out that's what I saw lol.
lmao this was me when they were first announced. I looked at the pictures and couldn't see any resemblance to a pig.
Yeah They look kinda Cute If you think that way
NO WHY
These have been my latest binge and I cannot get enough
good videos , congratulations ! waiting for more of this series...
I have a mildly more positive idea with a very similar track, only really diverging on the issue of the slave labor. I don't see much evidence to suggest that the ancient builders would've used such measures at the height of their species. With golumancy on the rise, the vulnerability of the piglins to the exact environment they were supposedly sent to mine in, and the blatantly obvious inefficiencies that would've arisen from using uneducated slave labor, especially in place of builders who have already been proven to be quite capable of their own large-scale endeavours in both the Overworld and the Nether... it all doesn't add up to me that the builders would've deceived the piglins in such a way.
I think it's more likely that some of the last surviving builders saw their last days in the bastions. The somberly reminiscent language in the advancements related to the bastions implies to me that a great tragedy had occured there- perhaps, that tragedy was the end of the species, the home of the final victims of the extinction.
If that's the case, then it makes sense that these last few builders would've continued feeding and raising their pigs, creatures they doubtless venerated considering their noteworthyness in even modern builder art and the ancient architectural samples. With overworld food supplies now dwindling rapidly, they perhaps began feeding the pigs whatever they could. Pigs are almost goat-like in terms of eating anything, so it makes sense to me that they'd be more than capable of feeding off the nether fungi.
It follows that small-scale animal husbandry coupled with likely exposures to the undeath plague isnt conductive to a long life of a society, and so the last builders passed on, leaving nothing more than aging bastions, filled now with pigs who simply weren't cut out for life in that hostile environment. But life, you see, always finds a way.
Some pigs consumed fungi rich in soul energy, becoming strong and increasing in size, though their bones would start to wither from the corrupting influence of soul magic. The later piglins may have started to understand this, and this would explain their lacking numbers in soulsand biomes and their fear of soulfire.
The piglins who stayed mostly within the bastions and only ventured out occasionally for food in the crimson forests, having for many generations now, observed the builders' crafting, adoration for gold, and combat styles, learned over many, maaany years of evolution to their hostile home, redeveloped these activities themselves. Using scraps of iron the builders left behind, netherwood, string from the striders, the leather of their feral hoglin cousins, and gold they were capable of mining using blackstone tools, they have begun to develop a tribal society, though they have long forgotten the people who they were originally brought here by. I also note that, with the builders gone, the 'bipedal, large-brained, tool-using omnivore' evolutionary niche was BEGGING to be filled, thus the reasoning I feel for the piglin evolution.
Living in an environment where hostility is a matter of course and having long forgotten about the builders, they will attack you, assuming you to be hostile. Wearing gold, which they venerate both as a long-distant memory of their former masters, and now commonly use for weapons, armor, and tools, gives them pause. The fact that you can flaunt such an amount of it may even suggest to them that you're some kind of nobel figure, if you take into account how the seemingly more important piglin brutes wear small amounts of gold with their black robes. This allows you to walk among them freely, as long as you dont try to rob or kill them. It's also clear that they have a rough barter system given their willingness to trade, but likely simply don't understand what you find valuable, and so hand you anything they think you might want, even if logically it would be worth far more or far less than an ingot of gold.
I essentially believe that the piglins aren't 'too far gone' in a descendant remnant of a slave revolt. Rather, I think they came about well after the fall of the builders, and are actually on the ascendant. Given time, they might even surpass villager society, developing greater trading with the slowly reemerging builders (us), and even begin to comprehend building, slowly conquering their rightful homeland and truly making it home, rather than hell.
I eagerly await what such a new society could bring.
That makes a lot of sense.
I agree with this theory a lot more. It just doesn't seem plausible that the ancient builders would use slave labor considering the scale of their previous projects. They did build ocean monuments all by themselves, after all.
Yeah I’m not gonna read any of this.
this is what led to fallen kingdom
Man, you gotta be a writer lol Your therioes were breathtaking 🎶
Man, I gotta say, this content is top-freakin-notch. I did NOT expect to get my mind blown about Minecraft tonight. Well done Sir.
Top-"Notch"
Like, the creator of Minecraft
Video:What are Piglins?
Me:Uhh,babies of Steve and a pig after mating?
@@elbenezermirabuena7755 wait a second while I grab my diamond sword
@@blizzardgaming7070 You idiot he obviously has netherite by now
@@internetperson9813 it’s an elegant weapon, of a more civilised age
This Deep Dive series is very interesting I hope you keeping making more episodes of Deep Dive.
I believe that the piglins were once a great empire at the time they built the bastions, but something happened that wiped out much of their population (zombified them) and now they spend all their energy just trying to get by, and cannot exert the manpower (pigpower?) to repair the bastions
Piglins was one of my submissions in the competition. Even though its not mine, I'm glad they are covering it.
I think his theories are very good. And entertaining too
He deserves 1m + subs
honestly there are so many good small youtubers out there that are so underrated, and make way better content than big clickbait youtubers, but get less recognition, lets help out with a sub
I said this in a different reply but I’m honestly not worried about how many subs I do or don’t have. I just want to make content people will like, and everything else will take care of itself.
I wish he had 1 billion subs
There is an achievement called "War Pigs", it could be true that there was a great war in the nether. There is also a clue where Piglins and Zombified Piglins are not hostile to each other, but rather mobs from the Fortress like the Wither Skeleton.
I'm not a Minecraft fan, or even player
But you take us through a nice journey ! Great content, never thought I'd see a video on Minecraft as good as a Jacob Geller essay 😂
Pigs turn into zombified piglins because the community didn’t want the pig to pigman transformation feature to go, it was never intended to stay because “it didn’t tie in with the lore of the piglin”
There was no intended lore on the lightning transformation
Can you make one on ghasts, or maybe even silverfish? Ghasts are really strange mobs, so I would love to see a video on them!
Ghast are so strange and intriguing
"Uneasy Alliance" : It says that you have to bring it back "home" as in Overworld and then killing it. Its really odd and gives me an idea that the ghasts were originally from the overworld
@@turoturolamama I think they are the souls of some of the ancient builders who died in the nether and got transformed into ghasts somehow, the fact that ghasts are found most commonly in the soul sand valley of all places definitely gives some credibility to that idea, especially since normal non wither skeletons spawn there too, soul sand itself is probably the charred decomposed remains of whatever non native species were in the nether before everything got wiped out in the event that killed the builders
Villagers turn into witches when struck by lightning, so i believe lighting might have some sort of (black) magic connection
The reason lightning makes them zombified and not normal piglins could be the crazy amount of heat they received in mere seconds, while the piglins took time to transform
The absolute best part about these videos' is how you also explain their flaws
ALL these Theorys always make me wish hard that we can achieve permanent change in Minecraft.
I wanna free them or change the Piglin’s Situation for real.
Wish I could just join their civilization and help them, show them things they have never seen before, gain their trust.
Kinda hate how whenever I stay near some piglins, suddenly a whole army of hoglins appear out of nowhere and kill the piglins
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Maybe that's why they attack you if you don't wear gold because you remind them of the ancient builders
WRRRRRAAAAAAGGGGHH!
Homie
Nah, officially the reasoning is that they see you as a respectable figure, or tolerable effort to barter with.
Well my hypothesis for hoglins I made when watching your video is, that some of those pigs flew from the stables, ate the fungus and became wild. This explains, why they are named Hoglins and also why they drop porkchop.
You the goat man! i love your theories so much!
it should be noted that for your nativity point, hoglins are also not immune to fire
Probably another species resulting from Piglins?
Maybe they're pigs that evolved normally instead of becoming human-like.
I mentioned that a little bit at the end
@@RetroGamingNow yea ik i wrote this once i sal the piglin part and didnt care enough to edit the comment
Actually I think they’re not immune because the crimson didn’t harbor large amounts of lava, also explainable for the warped forest too, as enderman could live there and they were fine without adapting for it
"Mom why did dad left?"
"The Ancient Builders"
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What are hoglins then? How did they get there? I'd really like to see you explore hoglins in another deep dive video. I really like the series! Keep it up!
That was a really good theory! These videos are all really fun to watch.
Literally just binge watched your Minecraft content, now I get a new video. This is spectacular
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I love ur profile pic :)
@@maddisinheryford6962 thanks 💜
Me too
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Humans : *finds their pigs transformed*
Piglins : so we back in the mines
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@CyberDGuy Heads up!
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It is truly unbelievable that you only have 200k subs, you are sooo underrated
Its fun to see how different these and matpat's theories are different. It's cool to see how there are many ways to interpret the same game.
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I'm from Germany, it's 3am and I'm kinda scared to watch this
Lol
I'm from the Midwest and its 9 pm
3am in britain 🇬🇧
UK it 2am hello Germanic brother
@@puffleoftypos I'm a Midwestern, were like next to Canada
Nice theory but here’s mine
Piglins are not natural to the nether, hence not being fire resistant, also hence they have to have fire res potions, but rather they are natural to a dimension that cannot be discovered or explained. In said dimension they were educated in alchemy and teleportation, and also learned the importance of gold. So a few piglins investigated the nether, and built bastions. And then the ancient builders came and killed a few piglins for their gold. They then discovered bastions and thought that they were some sort of military camp, so then they built fortresses of their own. The piglins brains then got smaller, and they were left with their knowledge of alchemy, gold, and The Great Piglin War. This brings us to the present, where piglins spawn everywhere but warped forests, soulsand valleys, and nether fortresses, and also basalt deltas. The piglins then forgot where the basalt deltas were, so they could no longer hire magma cubes to protect their bastions but they found the solution: steal a blaze spawner from a nether fortress and replace the blaze with a magma cube, since the blazes were loyal to the builders, and the magma cubes to the piglins. The piglins also found a way to craft a music disc with netherrack and gold. Second, warped forests were off limits because endermen scared the piglins with their vast knowledge of teleportation. Soulsand valleys reminded them of all of the fallen in the past war. And nether fortresses were obviously builder strongholds. Then the mass extinction of the builders happened, and their zombies shared the knowledge of their past lives that the piglins were enemies. So they infected most of them thus zombified piglins. The piglin army then killed all the zombies, but lost most of their alchemist knowledge, so could not make an antidote to the virus. And to this day, they mindlessly roam the nether, waiting for the player to free the end and hopefully gain enough knowledge of teleportation from the endermen to construct a portal for the piglins to go back home.
Its worth noting that the pig to ZPiglin is a hold over; Piglins are very new, and for the longest (As in nearly a decade) time, there wer only Zombie Pigmen in the nether. Regular Pigmen were planned to be overworld villagers, until the current Villager was created, and Pigmen were shelved, until the idea was revisited for Piglins. The lightning idea need to be taken with a grain of salt because its a legacy feature
Minecraft lore is so interesting, I love the way you use every small detail to your advantage :)
Wait, what if Hoglins are pigs in one of the stages of transforming, meaning they're mutant pigs, but not quite humanoid yet
@Krisha Peddakotla hmm, true but their eyes are white so I think they may have lost their minds when transforming so they attack whoever they see...when they become humanoid the "builders" teach them not to kill each other and just to mine for them
My theory is they are diffrently mutated and piglins hunt them for food
@@Kxy2x nice
@CyberDGuy nice
Yeah, they are probably in the same species as Piglins initially but overtime; it broke down into two completely different species, those normal pigs that was lost in the nether turned into Hoglins through evolution and adaptation and those normal pigs that has many interactions with the "ancient builders" or whatever also evolved and adapted well to their environment but for a different reasons from the Hoglns.
I think it would be important to mention that some of the blocks in the bastion are made of chiseled blackstone, which is a piglin snout symbol. So either they are trying to repair, or they were put there from the start