All New RYOBI 80v Battery Zero Turn AUSTRALIAN REVIEW
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2023
- Today we check out the R80XZTR42
80V HP 42” LITHIUM ZERO TURN RIDE-ON MOWER
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I said $10,099 for the extra battery. I meant $1,099 🤦🏻♂️
I recently bought a second hand husqvarna zero turn for $2k that only had 300 hours, its an absolute beast and chews through 9 acres of paddock on one tank of gas. The new battery tech is awesome but they have a long way to go before its worthwhile imo. For anyone in the market for a ride on I highly recommend buying second hand quality brand
Agree..bought a Kubota GR "Diesel" a few months ago...fricken AWSOME
Thank you soo much for testing this in some real tall grass and not a lush green manicured lawn
I haven’t finished the video yet but I’m glad to see this comment.
Typically, reviewers are cutting firstly maintained lawns - not those that were overgrown due to heavy rains or repeated storms.
I want to see that power.
Purchased a 42inch and l now have a few hours on it. I must say l absolutely love it. But a few things to be aware of:
1. On the batteries supplied, it does 2 acres on low speed with low blade speed (with well maintained grass (just below what they advertise) but for the best cut you want low speed with medium blade speed. This means 1 1/2 acres realistically as that’s what lm getting on a full charge when mowing my paddocks. As l Iive on 3 acres l need to split the mow into two mows but this works okay as l will mow our 1/2 acre around the house and 1 acre of paddock each mow, alternating the paddocks each week. When it says low battery (less than 10%) just keep mowing as the blades will stop 5-6 minutes before the battery is completely dead giving you more than enough time to get back to the shed.
2. The blade height stopper l actually use to stop the lever bouncing out and up. Paddocks are a bit rough and when the lever bounces out of its setting (which it does a lot) it always goes up not down. Not an issue once aware of it.
3. On uneven ground the machine bounces around quite a bit so unlike a steering wheel, the stick is quite a lot harder to keep the mower on a straight line when you hit bumps. Infact due to its light weight the whole front will jump and the front wheel design is not vertical like on other zero turn mowers l’ve used so they can end up in any direction causing steering issues. They should have been better designed by centring the support directly over the wheels like on other zero turn mowers. Not sure why Ryobi did this. It’s a pity as going from forward to reverser is a bit of a pain to control. Just means if close to plants or fencing you need to go really slow esp when turning to stop crashing or doing an unexpected turn over your flowers.
4. Seat comfort is great when on flat ground but when on bumpy ground, the adjustable spring in the seat is almost useless. Can’t get it to make any difference. Again have used heavier zero turn mowers and the spring seats work much better. This definitely needs fixing by Ryobi.
5. Dust and fine grass gets into all the compartments when mowing paddocks so putting food in them is a no no. At the end of the mow you have to use a high powered blower to get the dust and dry grass out of ever nook and cranny (and there’s lots). Not so much an issue with normal well maintained green grass around the house but it’s summer and grass is dry in the paddocks. Ryobi again needs to fix this issue.
6. The phone holder compartment is only for small phones. I have a Google Pixel 7 Pro with a cover and it doesn’t fit. Great idea but poorly executed and no way would I put a phone in it without a cover as the mower does bounce around a lot on uneven ground such as found in paddocks. Needs rubber padding but then no phone will fit. Again Ryobi needs to fix this.
7. As said above, cleaning definitely requires a blower (and a wash) to get all the grass and dust out of it. Seems worse than normal ride-ons
8. The app is a bit of a gimmick as everything is on the screen and you cannot use it when the mower is off. Have deleted it off my phone already. Ryobi needs to add extra features to it or just dump it altogether.
9. A big issue is aftermarket support if you have an issue. The Call centre is in an Asian country and they are appalling to deal with. They can’t understand English so trying to deal with them is terrible. It took 5 days to get a response from a technician for a mower issue. This is pretty hopeless.
So advantages over other petrol driven mowers:
1. It is overall very comfortable but as said not as comfortable as the heavier petrol zero turn mowers on bumpy ground, but definitely better that a normal home petrol ride-on. Arm rests work really well esp for resting arm whilst using the joystick. Really well done by Ryobi
2. Very quick to mow even in comparison to other zero turn mowers. The joystick controller is quicker and far more responsive to use than everything else available so that saves time. And if mowing long strips of smooth grass, max speed is really fast to mow compared to everything else l’ve used.
3. The joystick for steering is great fun and heaps better than the two sticks on other zero turns and more fun than a wheel. Takes far less effort to use, and putting it into reverse is so much easier than all other designs. And it’s also easy to adjust and control your speed with it. It only take a few mows to get used to for mowing open areas. When mowing around garden however, it takes a few mows to stop mowing your flowers. Won’t go back to anything else now lm used to it
4. Charging is dead easy and no more having to go out and buy expensive fuel. As we are on solar panels, its basically free to charge if I mow in the morning. I think one of the reviews costs it out at $5 AUS for a full charge so big savings even when you take into consideration the minimum life of 6 years for the battery (free extended warranty).
5. No more breathing in fuel fumes when mowing, and no more smelling of fuel fumes post mow. This is a big issue in itself.
6. It’s so quite even when the blades are going. In fact you could mow without hearing protection, but unlike some say, you can’t talk on the phone as people on the other end hear the whine of the blades over you talking (tried it and it doesn’t work). And if you stop for a chat with a neighbour, you don’t have to turn it off to talk, you just stop and disengage the blades and there’s no noise whatsoever.
7. There is no vibration you get from a petrol mower. With my dicky back, it’s a lot more comfortable to mow as l’m not vibrating. That in itself is great.
8. The cutting power is amazing. I used it in the paddocks with the mulcher attachment and absolutely no effort when compared to my Cox 16hp ride-on. And the cut was fantastic with the paddocks now looking manaquered. And the cut using the mulcher on normal lawn it beer than anything l’ve every used
9.. And best of all, no more servicing and having to wait 3-6 weeks to get the mower repaired (current wait time at the local mower stores in the area l live). But not sure how long Ryobi will take to come out a do a repair if ever needed, but there’s so little to go wrong on it compared to a petrol mower. Whilst Ryobi say they will come out for repairs, or pay for it to go to Ryobi if a major repair, as l live in rural Victoria, l’ll wait and see if they honour that.
Overall if you manage the mowing time when on acreage, the machine is great and mowing is so much fun on this thing. Will never go back to petrol engines. And no regrets buying this even for its price.p"
I expect this mower will last several seasons with decent care. czcams.com/users/postUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend Also, I ran across the problem with it not starting the 2nd time I used it. There is a safety switch which is pushed in by the chute or mulching piece being attached to the deck. I took the cover off and it wouldn't start. Put it back on, no problem. It takes only a minute with 2 easily accessible wingnuts and no tools. This mower starts up first crank each time and it is a joy to use. It also mows in reverse by putting the key to the reverse area after starting and pushing in the triangular button. It will stay in reverse mode until you turn it off. All in all, for my homeowner needs, I really like this mower-and at 70 bucks a cut here in Miami, it's already more than 1/3 paid for itself in a month.
I guess the 36v batteries are handy if you have the other Ryobi tools as you can charge them all in the mower. Saves you having to have other chargers.
I have got the 54' inch version arriving tomorrow morning, when it will be delivered. My property is on a slope....so we see how it goes. If it can do 3/4 of what you did in the last part of your video then I am happy. By the way..the warranty on the charger and batteries is 3 years only. The rest is warranted for 4+2 years.
Any updates, mate?
@@youremostwelcome Yep. Just used mine yesterday and it's exceeding expectations. My property is rocky and on a slope, so my deck is set to it's highest position while at the same time I have adjusted the cutter deck wheels to give the greatest clearance to the ground. I have done the front of the house where we have a bit of a round about at the direct front of the house with around a 1/4 of an acre..all slope. It used 16% of the charge (it started to rain so I had to stop). Next day after recharging I did the larger back area which used the same 16% percent again despite that it is a larger area of around 1/2 acre. Haven't done the very front down at the road yet as it was done just a few days ago, before getting the new mower.
Observations: It took barely a quarter of the time that it took with the 42' John Deere ride on mower due to it's zero turn ability. (Far more efficient). The larger deck is not an issue on rougher ground if you use the correct deck height. The grass was a bit wet so on a slope it might loose a bit of traction..no worse then our old John Deere. I probably could do the entire property on a single charge but won't as I do not want to go below 30% charge left. This will prolong the life of the Lithium batteries. I also have solar 8Kwh Lithium batteries for the house, so have a bit of experience with these batteries.
The mower arrived with 14% charge in it and it took less then 4 hours to charge to 100%.
Joy stick is touchy and takes a bit of getting used to. I run the mower at lowest speed and medium blade speed.
3.5KW/hr battery capacity at peak cost of 44c a KW/hr including efficiency loss costs me less then $3,- to do the entire property.
With the John Deere mower using a 22HP twin engine it now was around $12,- ~ $15,-. Not including oil/oil filter/fuel filter/spark plugs/airfilter. A maintenance kit is now minimum $40,- not including oil and not using original John Deere parts.
@@alf699 Great update, and summary, thanks! My experience is with a hustler zero turn, which is a nice, heavy unit. I suppose it's a bit early to tell, but do you have much of a sense of the Ryobi's solidity? Do the blades seem like they'll have good life to them, or are they pretty light stock that won't take to sharpening? Also a use question: I have sloping property too. When the joystick is allowed to centre, is their electrical braking going on that would overcome a (shallow) slope if pointing downhill? And did you source through Bunnings, or direct?
@@youremostwelcome You do ask great questions
In Australia, Bunnings has exclusive rights and yes, you purchase it via Bunnings. I was lucky and our Bunnings had a Display model on the floor. We purchased that one. You can still order it on line so that it will be delivered directly to you, but there will be delivery charges. As it was a display model (without a scratch on it and already put together), it saved us the delivery charges. They delivered it on a larger trailer towed with a 4WD...so great for me. Didn't even have to put it together...LOL. I checked that everything was there that should have been there in the package and it was..nothing missing or damaged.
Blades: Yes, the blades are flimsier compared to my John Deere. Why?..I have got no clue as the motors are without a doubt capable of swinging normal (heavier gauge) blades. No matter what, as they are metal, they can be sharpened (of course).
I have ordered a high quality Blade Balancer from the US via Amazon, a "MAG-1000". Should have done it a long time ago as I have also a push on mower, now also an electric which replaced an ICE one, plus a Tractor with a slasher...so plenty of blades to sharpen and balance. By the way, I have had the electric push on mower (a cheap Bunnings "Ozito")for over a year now and it does everything the Petrol one did with ease with no degradation of the batteries performance.
IMHO a good blade balancer is a MUST as on the electric mower ones, the blades are directly connected to the electric motors and out of balance blades would reduce the life span of the motors.
I have sent an email to Ryobi as I can't find the blades on the Bunnings Website. I am assuming that the 42' blades are the same as for the 54' ones, but it doesn't say so.
Still waiting on a reply.
How is the 54 version brother can u let me know
Reminds me of my first and last 12v ryobi cordless drill from 1991.. think I'll wait 😮
Ryobi has come a long way in the last 30+ years. have the 42 mower, so far it is a dream, miles better than my old gas mower.
I have this same mower on sale for 4k at Home Depot near me, seems worth it
When mowing in grass what wasn't as tall as the mower did you find it easy to control and keep it straight and able to get back on track once you turned around. Wondering about the look for the end result. Straight lines.
This is a very interesting subject. Battery operated mowers are becoming popular. I’m wondering what the life of the batteries is? They would be extremely expensive to replace. I’ve had experience with replacing smaller batteries that would no longer charge and they were expensive.
There not to expensive I don't think
Interestingly, Ego uses all stock batteries across their entire range
That video helped me a lot. I have an acre lot similar to the lot you did at the end at the Job site...its flat but not a maniucured grass ...more like a wild, natural grass with weeds that I want to keep maintained for the dogs to run around!. I was wondering how it does in a use like that! looks like it was pretty good!
Thanks! from Flagstaff, Arizona
Spot on - if gardening you have the smaller batteries for other gardening tools. Lot of cash but they would be awesome
I would prefer a bank of 36V batteries (10 off), that can be left in the Mower bank and charged as a bank, then pulled and used on my other Ryobi gear.
I have the 300e 30” acid battery riding mower from Ryobi - love it. I know the kind of batteries in there means I get a significantly limited lifetime out of it, I’m hoping for another year or two. I got it lightly used so I don’t need to extract maximum value, but I don’t want it to die early either.
That said, I think these 80v machines look super interesting, but not all the way there. Namely, on price point. I think (USD) if these were $1000 cheaper to begin with, and then go on sale sometimes, sure. I think I need other things to do with these 80v batteries too. It’d be nice if there were even some kind of backpack that converted an 80v battery for 40v tool use or something.
I’ve been an early adopter before with different things and while in those cases it did work out, because I understood those markets better, I don’t understand this market well enough to know if it will.
Given you *do* understand this market better than I do, do you see a broader future for 80v tools / vehicles(?), whatever? (Consumer grade.) Do you see the prices coming down in the next 3-5 years perhaps?
Consider building an LTO battery bank for that unit when time comes- as there are already 12v replacements available off the shelf. They're badass, will dramatically improve voltage drop over life/sag as well
Thanks for saving me $11K
Looks like it's just pushing the grass over is it actually chopping somthing.
Have you compared it with other ZT ride ons? greenworks, toro, ego etc
I have 2 54inch Ryobi lawnmowers and I charge one, cut with the other and about to get 2 more
How do you handle charging during the operation months. After using the mower, do you take it into the charger, and leave it. Or do you let it get to 100 percent and unplug it and leave the batteries inside the mower?
It felt unbearably slow to cut that long grass. I think your utility push mower would have been faster. Am I wrong?
The difference between the COMMERCIAL and HOME brand is always noticeable. This being the HOME brand is why it isn't as beefy. Usually the price reflects that. But with battery mowers, we wont see it for at least 5-10 more years.
Painfully slow. I don’t know if a battery ride on should even be compared to a petro ride on, but that’s exactly where my mind went. A petro would have plowed right through it.
I never plough through long grass you never know what’s in it
@@shirleyparr5743 I can tell you that my 22HP Twin Cylinder John Deere L111 would in no way be any quicker in grass like that. When it gets to a certain lengths, the grass will lay over and flatten by the front of the mower before the blades can get to them. That's why it takes a 2nd pass coming from the opposite direction. I see tomorrow when my 54' version arrives as I still have my John Deere L111.
Ok, so I am in the market for a zero turn mower to use at home.
If I was to get this one I'd probably go the 54 inch over the 42 cause if I'm going to spend 11k then it's not much more of a stretch to 13k and over the years that I have it the time savings from the bigger mower should be worth it.
What I really like about this one is the warranty and the fact that they will come to you.
I wasn't too keen on having to hire a trailer and to take it back to Bunnings every time there is an issue, so thank you Tim for telling us that as I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere yet and that's a big positive for me.
However, whilst not having a ride on at the moment is killing me, I think I will keep holding on, just until the new ego arrives in Australia.
It is available over in the states so hopefully isn't too much longer to go.
Then when that comes out and we can find out how much it will be then that will help me decide.
if you yard isn't perfectly flat, wouldn't recommend a 54. Also don't really need a 54 unless you're covering a lot of ground, but then you're limited by the batteries anyways.
The Ego is available now at Sydney Tools. However, I've decided on the 54 inch Ryobi. I've had the Ryobi RM480e for 4.5 years. The 75 Ah lead acid battery lasted 3.5 years. I replaced them with 110 Ah batteries and they give more power. I'll keep the RM480e as it's great for pulling a small trailer.
Will ego come out?
So 80v batteries and 36v batteries can power it? They might as well put 18v battery slots in it too while they're at it
Batteries can freeze, so removing them and placing them in a warm garage to charge would prevent them from getting damaged from frost or colder weather.
Is there a commercial warranty? Most offer 1 year at the minimum
Spare parts availability? Or is it like all other ryobi products that you can’t get parts for?
$1099 for the 10Ah battery is top dollar for a low end brand.
What’s the battery warranty? Mower may be 4+2 but what are the batteries. Aren’t the 18 and 36v batts only 3 year?
At least they went lithium
That is a LOT of money for a residential mower.
I hope everyone realized he was talking Aussie dollars.
If I won it in a raffle...YES ....If I won the lottery ...NO....I like gas or petro as you call it Tim ...Happy with my cub cadet riding lawnmower I received from my daughters last year for Christmas ...Thanks for a lot of great comments from the man , the myth, the legond Tim ...Tell Nicole hello from me!!!
Question: How does it handle slopes? Older homes have large sloping gutters for rain water that are already a challenge fo ordinary mowers. Any testing there?
No I didn’t get the opportunity unfortunately
That is definitely residential grade the deck looks super thin
This did not seem to require as many double passes as were shown
Would love to pit ut against my $1200 dollar used ride on i picked up last month and just see how 20 years of advancement compared. I still think my old beast would win out.
40v smaller batteries not 36v unless in Australia they have different which I doubt.
Until the price of batteries comes down, can't see spending a minimum of $5000 for something that will be junk in 3 years. Sure, if you have money to burn, sounds cool.
i think its ok for home use . yet what comercial user wants a bettery machne that takes hours to recharge when you need to move onto the next big job . who wants to carry spares on charge
i'll never let go of my V8 mower.... it shoots fire out of every chrome pipe, it's loud, and it sends grass raining down all over the suburb.... nothing is left standing.
It’s because the customer me included has a multitude of different batteries
11k?!! Hell I’ll come cut your grass with some fisher price scissors for that price. 😂😂😂
Prove it 😂
2 battery sizes is great. All my other tools will use the 40v batteries so it's interchangeable. The batteries should last 10 years. Old lead acid was terrible, died after 2 years.
11k, hard pass.
Sorry did you say a third battery was $10,000? So if one battery dies it’s virtually throw the whole machine in landfill
I did. I made a mistake when I spoke. Battery is $1,099
Yeah Nah
No...just NO...DIESEL....YES !!!!
No thanks
Way overpriced