👋I'm a relatively new member -- I have a request. I've had to in comment explain the GTFOM knife techniques, why and when to do things. Such as he's going to get your gun also, you just keep it holstered and back him off with the blade. *_Buys you distance which is time._* Yea, the commenting back and forth was a lot longer than that 😂He had questions, I had answers. A lot of back and forth. I could not find a concise video on it, shortest one was over 30min long and the first part was just him showing off his blades (had to give the dude the time stamp on where to start watching about techniques of the off-hand poke or stroke). That would go well with this vid.
BTW I'm partially disabled and CANNOT move like I used to. Lower back and neck spine crap (relearned to walk twice) . It's why I've retrained my brain of what I do when with what and why. Including using the back up off-hand dropping the knife.
Mike and the entire DSG crew are OUSTANDING in their delivery. They give their "students" information through practical application, on the range, with added elements of physical activity. What this video shows and teaches is what you get when attending their courses. HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
2:50 clear the degree 4:15 elbow shield, draw, distance6:30 5:35 2 shots then 8 rest 8:00 Push them then Draw 9:50 Lethal Life & Death Distance 10:15 Know whats beyond 11:00 ammo
Worst thing you can do is barrel stuff your target with a semi auto. The gun will fire once and then malfunction guaranteed since the slide is obstructed by the person's body. This is why some people call snub revolvers "get off me" guns. You can fire your entire cylinder in hand to hand combat and no malfunctions will occur from the front of the gun.
@elwinrobert7602 Daniel defense makes a 9mm semi-auto w/ a protrusion that extends the frame past the muzzle. This allows the user to press the gun against the body w/o it going out of battery.
Honestly, you absolutely can't preach situational awareness enough. So many people fail to grasp how far even small rounds penetrate and the range they're capable of. Props for your professionalism and continued service to others.
Agreed. And I get it if you're a secret agent or Navy SeAL or whatever, however, this scenario or situation seems like you're basically unloading on an unarmed person, lol. How 'bout just using the elbow or straight arm to push-off or defend, then back away or turn around and run? I'm not sure I would EVER pull a piece unless my life or limb depended solely on it. Hence the phrase, "I feared for my life" will be your best friend and best bet.
He's tilting the gun up when he draws it, which is fine, but here's the way I've always done this drill: Draw and hold from retention like he is (angled away from the body to avoid malfunctions), but without tilting the gun up. Fire two shots into the pelvis. Then push the gun half way out while stepping back and creating distance. Point shoot two shots center mass. Continue backing and pushing the gun out until you reach full extension on the gun. Fire a final shot into the head. 5 shot drill, 3 second par time (or better). This drill is dangerous, so practice with airsoft until you are proficient before using live fire. Be sure to keep that support hand pinned to your chest or the back of your head, so you don't accidentally shoot yourself. The reason I start at the pelvis is that it can create catastrophic damage to the skeletal structure that physically prevents the attacker from following your retreat, even if they are hyped up on adrenaline or drugs. A gut shot is less likely to do that. Anyway, I love this technique and you guys did a great job of explaining it.
I was trained similarly, locking the weapon into the hip using the hip to steady aim. Instead of pulling up, you would tilt the grip backward, clearing the barrel from the holster while stiff arming the opponent. If you need space but lack room to backup or circle away, you can roll onto your back and kick out with your legs, creating space.
Thank you, Mike and Zack, for taking the time to share these techniques- they were explained and demonstrated in a way that can be easily replicated in practice.
Love this video. Thank you guys. My dad and I will work on this. I got a GOOD training here. My father was in 82nd Airborne for 23 years. He's been helping me out with my EDC training. Yes. People that what to carry a firearm need carry the correct EDC ammo. This is way I contacted 5 different PD and asking them what they carry. I decided on. Federal syntech SJHP. run that in my 9mm and 45acp
On the ammo point: I see (and can't argue against) the suggestion to use frangible for EDC. The downside of frangible rounds is lack of penetration through, for example, a leather coat worn by the attacker. Even so, the impact would (I expect) slow the attacker down some, giving me a sliver of time to back away and aim for uncovered body parts. My current EDC ammo is sub-sonic Hornady hollow point, but I have some frangible rounds and can get more.
Incredible video. Mike and Zack explain these techniques perfectly. I have taken a lot of the defense strategies courses and they are incredible - I highly recommend
I’ve got many years in the private sector plus army infantry background. The common draw method in close quarters with an attacker is to shoulder them with your offhand side to keep your holster as far from their reach as possible while you draw. You can use your offhand arm to either protect your head and neck or to shove/control the attacker as you draw depending on the situation. Things like attempting to grab the arm wielding a weapon to redirect it, grabbing the attacker’s neck, or eye gouging the attacker as you draw are considerations
I liked what I saw here. Yes I'm going to give you feedback...Incidentally I just spent the last two days looking over the mCMAP manual and the Army combative Manual because I am a life long MA student and might soon be working on a video series of my own,, which I might entitle" I am NOT a Navy Seal" to contrast with the pile of stuff from people claiming this sheerly because I have known SEALs who were good friends and I know that was a no-no at least once upon a time. I'm not even a Soldier, and yes I'm giving you feedback. I love that you used and promoted an Air Soft Pistol for training drills. These are excellent tools designed for exactly that in addition to the sport. Most of the full metal gas blow back versions are way better than training with Blue Guns or plastic replicas because you're going to get sweaty hands and cut your hands on the sights and slip and get bit by the port and all of that and you can lock the follower in most of these and use them in a kind of blank fire mode. they have very light triggers though. Another alternative that has turned out great for these drills are the T4E line of paintball pistols from umerex that look, feel, and weigh exactly the same as their real counterparts only their report is much louder and gets attention from people. The slide is a half-blow back though so you can't win them all. appendix carry is in my opinion the god Awful worst place to carry but people like it. I heard a lot of the usual clear and present stuff but what I heard that I liked was that your guy circled to the outside. He taught me something new. I would have just fallen back on a straight line a few steps or at an angle but circling is always better if you have the space. I liked the idea of pushing or doing something before a draw. I'll add to this: don't go for the gun first. You already have your hands out, use them. Lunge right in and Jab, Cross, Push or something drop back clear and present, something like that. make sure someone isn't standing right next to you when you do this. circling immediately is cool to get off the X. thank you My opinion use obstacles and put them between you and if no obstacles are present, that's when you pull your trusty fixed blade knife and get that right out in front just before you pull your weapon. Now he's looking at your knife and calculating for a second or two and you present him with your weapon. Now you control space near and far. Give up or die tired. If not and he is fast enough to snatch the knife then *bang* you got the guy holding a deadly weapon and you can argue you went for the knife first for the safety of bystanders. I like the idea of frangible rounds. these are hard to get right now but unless the guy has a vest they should absolutely be effective especially at that range. finally, I emphatically believe that everyone in USCCA and like orgs should learn and practice some kind of martial art with a strong emphasis on grappling but includes striking beyond basic boxing because Boxing is built for the ring and when you get stuck between cars in a garage or some weird place like an elevator and you are turned sideways you can't effectively box your way out of all of those tight spaces, not to mention that a good grappling-striking combo art will emphasize a lot of attacks directly to limbs that are reaching to grab you or your weapon. boxers can knock the hell out of you but couldn't do a wrist lock or elbow lock etc when someone goes for your gun. finally, use whatever is already out and in your hand first to disrupt their attention and create a space to present the weapon in rather than going for the weapon first because you have given up an opportunity and once your hands are tied up lifting your shirt and reaching for a gun then your hands are occupied and out of action for a second while he is lunging in to pin your hands to your body, stomp on your feet and whatever. Even better, strike, strike, off balance (push, etc) fall back and present. I like that. practice this from the front, Side and Rear attacks and your good. Mix it up a little and that's an super easy reactive drill anyone can make up and get comfortable with and don't forget to use whatever you are already holding in your hands even if it's just your will to kick their ass. I liked this video.
turning the pistol nearly perpendicular to the body places the slide further away from things that can interrupt the action, (Like clothes)... a pistol mounted light, also prevents muzzle contact from putting the pistol out of battery....
Thanks for the practical training, always maintain control of your weapon, keeping distance between your enemy. As ur pushing away, ur enemies face as he lunges forward eyes and nose strike (a hard direct strike isn’t needed to get the eyes watering. Thanks for the close quarters drill. Matt
Just remember that a small knife on your weak side is another very good tool to have on hand. I often pocket carry a small fixed blade in that back pocket. Other times I will have a push-knife inverted on my belt same general area. Multiple tools for situations just make sense...
One suggestion that wasn't covered in the presentation: what happens if the assailant is experienced, knows these general techniques of creating space or a block and can quickly get around them? There are some folks that would snap your arm, break and elbow, do something that causes you enough pain to forget about what the other arm was supposed to be doing. I'm only saying, not all close encounters are by people who can be stumped right off.
You just saved me a lot of typing. You put your hand on my shoulder, your on the ground in a hurry with a broken arm. But, I’d never give a good person a reason to put their hands on me in the first place 😊
First issue is shooting an unarmed man, second issue is considering your gun the primary weapon. Many years ago, Jerry Peterson the founder of S.C.A.R.S. nineties Navy Seal close quarter combat instructor showed exactly that.
These “techniques” are shown with a compliant attacker and they won’t even work against someone determined to fight. Try doing this with a friend who actually goes full blast. The elbow shield is plain silly, and the arm over the shoulder won’t give you control or leverage to stop someone grabbing you.
@@TheNicolasd As soon as I see some one that close starting to draw a weapon Immediately start blasting the knees with steel toe boots as an opening gambit. The problem with these guys is that they consider the gun the primary weapon and they have a defensive mind set.
It seems that every Seal whoever existed now gives weapons advice on the internet. Splendid stuff! It was the same with the SAS after 5th May 1980. We are indeed honoured to have such expertise available.
At the 3:15+ mark, you specify clearing, etc in preparing to draw. Why not disguise by going into martial arts stance, weapon side back, with arms in action like you are moving to a defensive stance ? That way, with one simple move you can draw the gun as far back as the back hip and go into action from there.
Good points on ammo selection. In a crowded urban environment, that round can do a lot of unintended damage. Everyone these days is so stuck on “FBI minimum penetration” in gel. I can personally testify that something like a 124-grain HST can go right through the brick exterior wall of an apartment building. Seeing a bunch of brick walls behind your target doesn’t mean the backstop is safe.
Great video, gentlemen. I'm an old retired Army E8 but I can always learn. When you think you know everything you are deluding yourself. Situational awareness is vital in an urban environment because of uninvolved bystanders.
I have always trained with real ammo unless we’re going to shoot at live targets. Unless someone train’s doing these precise movements to where it becomes muscle memory you will never do this correctly! Training is a constant rehearsal of proper protocol and techniques! Your train to make every movement natural!
But if you get a decent airsoft clone, the manual of arms is exactly the same. You can even get branded ones from the major manufacturers that even have the same trigger feel. Using those means 90% of training can be done without ammo.
What I had been taught in the forces a long time ago and very far from here is that you have to try to walk backwards only as far as necessary since it is very easy to trip and fall and then you could be in serious trouble.
well the other reason for the tilt is to avoid getting clothing caught as well as slide hitting the body and causing a malfunction. Circumstances determine method used and what is practical. Distance is your friend, target and beyond as you are responsible for every shot fired. Your a hundred % correct there Training is key which is why constitutional carry can be a problem when people don't seek proper training.
Agree w/99% the ONLY thing is that the 45° can't DOES SERVE A PURPOSE. Its so that the slide doesn't hit your body causing a malfunction, typically on a close draw the gun would be tucked a bit closer as well. At least this was how I was instructed in the Marines.
Interesting, but how do I legally justify force multiplication from non lethal hands to firearm if not dodging bullets or knife swipes without becoming the bad guy?
This is interesting stuff, but just take a boxing class for a few months then a jujitsu class for a few months that'll help you far more simply because few people will actually practice this but in a class you have to practice and that'll ingrain it in your brain.
@rodvan-zeller6360 Harden your hands through training, and I'm saying punch them back as opposed to elbow out/push. The ground training is simply to escape and regain a standing position.
Good job guy's, and thank you for your service to help keep this country free,and safe! And to show my appreciation, I do contribute to the wounded warrior project!!!
I agree with all of this there saying. Because they are absolutely correct. The only issue now a days. Criminal are carrying guns also. I was always told never to draw from the drop. If a criminal has the drop on you. You have to find a way to conceal your draw. Basically, you have to pray they don't shoot you and wait for your turn if they already have the drop on you. Even as a martial artist over 35 years. And fighter. Space is the enemy unless I create it. There, for a yes, a person being within your range can be good or bad depending on the situation. Or if I was the one to minimize or close distance. I'm speaking from a tactical close quarter combat perspective. Each situation causes different applications and tactics. But I agree with the great video.
Great channel. It has a big range of topics. It’s appreciate that. Keeping up to date to legal issues and topics to something like this. I found this incredibly helpful. I plan to start taking some classes to diversify my tool box. This was practical and explained simply. Now, I just need to start getting my reps in. Thank you for sharing this. 👍🏼
Something one of my instructors said. If you have to shoot in a crowded situation. If you drop to a knee, then the trajectory is upward. So it should go over the heads of anyone standing behind your target. Something to practice when you're out in public. Just look around and mentally think if they do X I'll do Y. Do the same thing driving, think if car X does this, I'll do that. Practice situational awareness all the time and have a plan. Understand the OODA loop.
Good info. Don’t forget folks once you push away and if you’re able to create distance or can continue to create distance now you have to decide in a flash if you now created a scenario where you’re able to get away and deadly force is no longer needed if it was in the first place. The bitter sweet truth is even though you’re state allows you to carry you’re almost always in the wrong to actually fire or at least that’s how you should look at it(check your laws). These things are taught in your training classes. So get that training folks.
You should do a video on what to do if you are attacked in a vehicle and are seatbelted into it, either on the driver side or passenger side (ex. Waiting for a friend to go to the bathroom while you wait in the parked car)? How do you get the attacker away from you when they have all of the leverage and advantage?
In Israel we use safety rods while training so you get the feeling of the real thing when working with a partner. But we never walk around with a loaded gun so your drill must include loading the gun. great video, thanks!
in drills like this i think the use of fixed blade knives or even good on body flashlights in the off hand should also be talked about and implemented to help create distance
I feel like one huge point that was missed in this video is that the pistol must be ready to shoot save for operating the safety. Off hand is not available to rack the slide. Some people advocate to not have a round chambered when carrying inside waistband to mitigate accidental discharge, and that would not work at least with these methods.
The triangular shield with the elbow out impairs considerably your view, in particular onto the lower body parts of your opponent (hip or higher) where he/she might hold a weapon such as a knife. Try it out! Using the (in this case) left hand/arm for keeping distance is ok, but blinding your view onto the opponent is not. Just my 2 Cents
I have to FIRST and FOREMOST Thank you Both for your service and the sacrifices that you and your families have endured for those of us here at home!!! Now, secondly I must commend you both mentioning for everyone to be cognizant of the background when and IF we fire our weapons! This is the first time I've seen a "Expert" or someone from SOCOM to mention that very important part in a life and death situation! Thank you!
I just had a thought. If you also happen to have a pepper spray item (like an asp), i would keep that in the support hand if possible and use your elbow to help aim with that.
This is a great video, but many people (myself included) do not carry with a round in the chamber. Would love to see a video that includes drawing and chambering a round before firing.
Very well done and professionally presented unlike many others who feel the need to use foul language that appear to think that this makes the information better understood....not.
The only thing that I would add to this is the use of a pectoral index instead of a canted sideways shot. What is your biological indicator for this grip? The baseplate of the magazine to my hip, abdomen, ribcage, frontal latissimus? This is especially simple while drawing from concealment at the appendix position. A high and tight chicken wing paired with that forward shielding arm allows the elbows to do their job of mitigating shock if i were to bump into something during my drawstroke. Thus, reducing my risk of missing the intended target or shooting myself. A pectoral index keeps your weapon further away from the threat as well as allows for a bit more accuracy on those initial shots. By keeping my body in proper form and utilizing my natural indicators of my anatomy, I create a turret with my torso which allows for this improved accuracy and helps to mitigate shooting myself in the leveraging arm. Additionally, your barrel is pointed slightly downward through the sternum and pelvic box or even the legs (femoral artery) of the would be attacker, which helps to account for your backdrop and over penetration. This activates the FIBS factor the same way as they described allowing for you to still circle away off of the X and get those accurate follow up shots from your full extension. Keeping your thumb up and out against your body allows you to maintain a solid master grip while keeping your slide clear of hang ups on your shirt material. That's just my thoughts, anyways. Everything else is absolutely sound.
Good vid. More details on the basic-mid level hand to hand technique while drawing would be appreciated(never heard anyone talk about a shoulder block but with a heavily bladed stance it could be effective…unless they throw a body shot lol). The shoulder thing was all I could think of but I’ll bet you guys can teach us more!
Hello I have a shoulder replacement I’m 76 years old and I have a hard time drawing front appendix and also from the 3 o’clock position so I’ve chosen cross draw it’s his work very well for me could you shush how to defend yourself with a cross Draw thank you
The shield is correct. The draw is wrong. I also was taught the wrong way like this. Now I’ve learned the right way. Draw the firearm straight up out of the holster, until your thumb is up to the peck muscle and fire. Doing this at close quarters you will never miss.
The second technique should be a chop or forearm smash to the carotid or head, followed by highly trained fighting skill. You best have unarmed martial skill to handle close combat, a gun is not enough. This simply framing with the forearm is easily countered by his pushing your arm across, turning you and taking your back.
If he stays light on his toes, the pressure from the assailant can be used by the Target to Circle off the X and keep that distance. Sure the target might have to sacrifice the hand to some degree, but that's and acceptable price to pay to win a fight for your life
@@VikingVic76 if you have the sensitivity, relaxation and skill to yield to the assailant pushing on your framing arm and so not get jammed up and turned then the static block can be safe while you draw but realistically that takes high skill and repeated striking to the windpipe and carotid is far better anyway. If an attacker is that close just hit him first. Being light on your toes is fine for mobility at a distance but in close combat you lose stability compared to planted feet and losing your footing in a fight is the last thing you want.
Best way to counter that would be a poke to the eyeballs or a palm/fist to the nose or even a kick to the crotch. Don't have to be a martial arts master just aim for the weak spots
Guys pretty solid video , the way you create the space also allows for maintaining the space. All three elements are solid . One small thing is I’m worried about me elbow on full extension version. All in all solid work . Will work on this a while and see with a gun in holster as I carry on hip . Thanks 🙏 😅
Another alternative is the training barrels, which is solid piece of plastic formed into a barrel, they are hard to find, but 5.11 used to make them, I have three, for Sig 228, G19/G27/26, they are designed for snapping in, but can work the same for this time of training..
Definitely still relevant, no matter size differences. But as will all techniques, you need to train relentlessly. If you’re in CA, come out to a course.
What if assailant try change levels and grab your legs? If you react by sticking hand out lower by hip level and then draw pistol and sim from hip you may shoot your hand.
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I've had to in comment explain the GTFOM knife techniques, why and when to do things. Such as he's going to get your gun also, you just keep it holstered and back him off with the blade. *_Buys you distance which is time._*
Yea, the commenting back and forth was a lot longer than that 😂He had questions, I had answers. A lot of back and forth. I could not find a concise video on it, shortest one was over 30min long and the first part was just him showing off his blades (had to give the dude the time stamp on where to start watching about techniques of the off-hand poke or stroke). That would go well with this vid.
BTW I'm partially disabled and CANNOT move like I used to. Lower back and neck spine crap (relearned to walk twice) . It's why I've retrained my brain of what I do when with what and why. Including using the back up off-hand dropping the knife.
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It was a pleasure sharing my knowledge to help people better defend themselves!
Thanks Zack, appreciate your service brother. 🇺🇸
You did so great! I had no idea that you had your own channel. Just subscribed. Look forward to more videos from you!
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Wow, vital info!
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Mike and the entire DSG crew are OUSTANDING in their delivery. They give their "students" information through practical application, on the range, with added elements of physical activity. What this video shows and teaches is what you get when attending their courses. HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
Thank you Steven!
Great demo/training. Rule one, don't get in the situation to begin with. Rule two, train for being in the situation..
2:50 clear the degree 4:15 elbow shield, draw, distance6:30 5:35 2 shots then 8 rest 8:00 Push them then Draw 9:50 Lethal Life & Death Distance 10:15 Know whats beyond 11:00 ammo
Worst thing you can do is barrel stuff your target with a semi auto. The gun will fire once and then malfunction guaranteed since the slide is obstructed by the person's body. This is why some people call snub revolvers "get off me" guns. You can fire your entire cylinder in hand to hand combat and no malfunctions will occur from the front of the gun.
With enough pressure some semi-autos will move out of battery and not even fire the first round
The hellcat claims to have fixed that problem with a extended recoil bar
A comp will fix the semi. Nothing will change the gas explusion around the cylinder on a revolver, which can shatter flesh and bone depending on ammo.
@elwinrobert7602 Daniel defense makes a 9mm semi-auto w/ a protrusion that extends the frame past the muzzle. This allows the user to press the gun against the body w/o it going out of battery.
Carry with a stand-off device gents
That draw, fire and step out were CLEAN😂
When I use my carry for draw practice, I also use a training safety barrel. Bright yellow and solid plastic.
Nice idea. Sadly, I don't see one to fit my EDC piece (CZ PCR).
Honestly, you absolutely can't preach situational awareness enough. So many people fail to grasp how far even small rounds penetrate and the range they're capable of. Props for your professionalism and continued service to others.
Also remember that every situation is different and may involve less or more struggle your number one weapon is always your brain. Use it .
Agreed. And I get it if you're a secret agent or Navy SeAL or whatever, however, this scenario or situation seems like you're basically unloading on an unarmed person, lol. How 'bout just using the elbow or straight arm to push-off or defend, then back away or turn around and run? I'm not sure I would EVER pull a piece unless my life or limb depended solely on it. Hence the phrase, "I feared for my life" will be your best friend and best bet.
Great info. Want more like this!
He's tilting the gun up when he draws it, which is fine, but here's the way I've always done this drill: Draw and hold from retention like he is (angled away from the body to avoid malfunctions), but without tilting the gun up. Fire two shots into the pelvis. Then push the gun half way out while stepping back and creating distance. Point shoot two shots center mass. Continue backing and pushing the gun out until you reach full extension on the gun. Fire a final shot into the head. 5 shot drill, 3 second par time (or better). This drill is dangerous, so practice with airsoft until you are proficient before using live fire. Be sure to keep that support hand pinned to your chest or the back of your head, so you don't accidentally shoot yourself.
The reason I start at the pelvis is that it can create catastrophic damage to the skeletal structure that physically prevents the attacker from following your retreat, even if they are hyped up on adrenaline or drugs. A gut shot is less likely to do that.
Anyway, I love this technique and you guys did a great job of explaining it.
Anything below the waist is allegedly not attempted murder. ;)
@@chaseknowls4624 "Your honour my gun misfired 6 times into his chest, it was an accident..."
I was trained similarly, locking the weapon into the hip using the hip to steady aim. Instead of pulling up, you would tilt the grip backward, clearing the barrel from the holster while stiff arming the opponent.
If you need space but lack room to backup or circle away, you can roll onto your back and kick out with your legs, creating space.
@@anonanonymous1988That’s how I was trained as well.
Thank you, Mike and Zack, for taking the time to share these techniques- they were explained and demonstrated in a way that can be easily replicated in practice.
thank you for the feedback and support!
Love this video. Thank you guys. My dad and I will work on this. I got a GOOD training here. My father was in 82nd Airborne for 23 years. He's been helping me out with my EDC training. Yes. People that what to carry a firearm need carry the correct EDC ammo. This is way I contacted 5 different PD and asking them what they carry. I decided on. Federal syntech SJHP. run that in my 9mm and 45acp
On the ammo point: I see (and can't argue against) the suggestion to use frangible for EDC. The downside of frangible rounds is lack of penetration through, for example, a leather coat worn by the attacker. Even so, the impact would (I expect) slow the attacker down some, giving me a sliver of time to back away and aim for uncovered body parts.
My current EDC ammo is sub-sonic Hornady hollow point, but I have some frangible rounds and can get more.
@@tomarmstrong4761 💯 agree. I forgot to mention that. My summer EDC ammo is federal syntech SJHP 138 grain. Winter EDC is. Hornady critical defense
Thanks guys great vid very informative never thought of circling when move back have to try that 👊
Incredible video. Mike and Zack explain these techniques perfectly.
I have taken a lot of the defense strategies courses and they are incredible - I highly recommend
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I’ve got many years in the private sector plus army infantry background. The common draw method in close quarters with an attacker is to shoulder them with your offhand side to keep your holster as far from their reach as possible while you draw. You can use your offhand arm to either protect your head and neck or to shove/control the attacker as you draw depending on the situation. Things like attempting to grab the arm wielding a weapon to redirect it, grabbing the attacker’s neck, or eye gouging the attacker as you draw are considerations
This was very informative. Thank you so much!
I liked what I saw here. Yes I'm going to give you feedback...Incidentally I just spent the last two days looking over the mCMAP manual and the Army combative Manual because I am a life long MA student and might soon be working on a video series of my own,, which I might entitle" I am NOT a Navy Seal" to contrast with the pile of stuff from people claiming this sheerly because I have known SEALs who were good friends and I know that was a no-no at least once upon a time. I'm not even a Soldier, and yes I'm giving you feedback.
I love that you used and promoted an Air Soft Pistol for training drills. These are excellent tools designed for exactly that in addition to the sport. Most of the full metal gas blow back versions are way better than training with Blue Guns or plastic replicas because you're going to get sweaty hands and cut your hands on the sights and slip and get bit by the port and all of that and you can lock the follower in most of these and use them in a kind of blank fire mode. they have very light triggers though. Another alternative that has turned out great for these drills are the T4E line of paintball pistols from umerex that look, feel, and weigh exactly the same as their real counterparts only their report is much louder and gets attention from people. The slide is a half-blow back though so you can't win them all.
appendix carry is in my opinion the god Awful worst place to carry but people like it. I heard a lot of the usual clear and present stuff but what I heard that I liked was that your guy circled to the outside. He taught me something new. I would have just fallen back on a straight line a few steps or at an angle but circling is always better if you have the space.
I liked the idea of pushing or doing something before a draw. I'll add to this: don't go for the gun first. You already have your hands out, use them. Lunge right in and Jab, Cross, Push or something drop back clear and present, something like that. make sure someone isn't standing right next to you when you do this. circling immediately is cool to get off the X. thank you
My opinion use obstacles and put them between you and if no obstacles are present, that's when you pull your trusty fixed blade knife and get that right out in front just before you pull your weapon. Now he's looking at your knife and calculating for a second or two and you present him with your weapon. Now you control space near and far. Give up or die tired. If not and he is fast enough to snatch the knife then *bang* you got the guy holding a deadly weapon and you can argue you went for the knife first for the safety of bystanders.
I like the idea of frangible rounds. these are hard to get right now but unless the guy has a vest they should absolutely be effective especially at that range.
finally, I emphatically believe that everyone in USCCA and like orgs should learn and practice some kind of martial art with a strong emphasis on grappling but includes striking beyond basic boxing because Boxing is built for the ring and when you get stuck between cars in a garage or some weird place like an elevator and you are turned sideways you can't effectively box your way out of all of those tight spaces, not to mention that a good grappling-striking combo art will emphasize a lot of attacks directly to limbs that are reaching to grab you or your weapon. boxers can knock the hell out of you but couldn't do a wrist lock or elbow lock etc when someone goes for your gun.
finally, use whatever is already out and in your hand first to disrupt their attention and create a space to present the weapon in rather than going for the weapon first because you have given up an opportunity and once your hands are tied up lifting your shirt and reaching for a gun then your hands are occupied and out of action for a second while he is lunging in to pin your hands to your body, stomp on your feet and whatever.
Even better, strike, strike, off balance (push, etc) fall back and present. I like that. practice this from the front, Side and Rear attacks and your good. Mix it up a little and that's an super easy reactive drill anyone can make up and get comfortable with and don't forget to use whatever you are already holding in your hands even if it's just your will to kick their ass. I liked this video.
Thank you for the feedback!
Shooting a pistol with one hand while having a knife in the other is not the greatest combination in a gunfight.
Thanks for your service
turning the pistol nearly perpendicular to the body places the slide further away from things that can interrupt the action, (Like clothes)... a pistol mounted light, also prevents muzzle contact from putting the pistol out of battery....
Good point. So many gun owners don't know about the possibility of an "out of battery" misfire.
Cool to see techniques are still similar to what I learned from Massad Ayoob’s LFI over 25 yrs ago.
Great demo guys. I wonder if the first shots before there is space be to the lower abdomen to impede the attacker’s mobility?
Hit them in the pelvic girdle and you shatter the pelvis now they arent walking anymore
Super chill, super relaxed, super informative. I could listen to these guys teach all day. Outstanding video.
Thank you sir!
Great practical techniques.
Thank you for the video. It confirms that I’m trying properly.
Good information Thanks Guy
Excellent information - thank you!!!
The USCCA gives me so much faith in my carrying life. Thank you guys!❤❤
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Might want to make sure you read the fine print. Ill just save my money for a better attorney if needed
Thanks Mike, Top instructions and tactics.
Salute Mike and Zack for this informative video.
cheers brother!
Thanks for the practical training, always maintain control of your weapon, keeping distance between your enemy. As ur pushing away, ur enemies face as he lunges forward eyes and nose strike (a hard direct strike isn’t needed to get the eyes watering.
Thanks for the close quarters drill.
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What a great video. I really learned something useful. Look forward to watching more great videos from these two.
Great video by two obviously knowledgeable men with real world application experience. Thank you for such a clear and concise presentation.
Just remember that a small knife on your weak side is another very good tool to have on hand. I often pocket carry a small fixed blade in that back pocket. Other times I will have a push-knife inverted on my belt same general area.
Multiple tools for situations just make sense...
This is a GREAT instruction video. I learned so much in a very short amount of time. This, type of training is very necessary.
Best instruction from former SEALs I've seen in 20+ years.
The elbow shield is reminiscent of a basic elbow block/cover from Muay Thai.
One suggestion that wasn't covered in the presentation: what happens if the assailant is experienced, knows these general techniques of creating space or a block and can quickly get around them? There are some folks that would snap your arm, break and elbow, do something that causes you enough pain to forget about what the other arm was supposed to be doing. I'm only saying, not all close encounters are by people who can be stumped right off.
You just saved me a lot of typing. You put your hand on my shoulder, your on the ground in a hurry with a broken arm. But, I’d never give a good person a reason to put their hands on me in the first place 😊
First issue is shooting an unarmed man, second issue is considering your gun the primary weapon.
Many years ago, Jerry Peterson the founder of S.C.A.R.S. nineties Navy Seal close quarter combat instructor showed exactly that.
These “techniques” are shown with a compliant attacker and they won’t even work against someone determined to fight. Try doing this with a friend who actually goes full blast. The elbow shield is plain silly, and the arm over the shoulder won’t give you control or leverage to stop someone grabbing you.
@@TheNicolasd As soon as I see some one that close starting to draw a weapon Immediately start blasting the knees with steel toe boots as an opening gambit. The problem with these guys is that they consider the gun the primary weapon and they have a defensive mind set.
@@rodvan-zeller6360 there is NO issue in shooting an unarmed assailant. Disparity of force...look it up.
Well done you two! I need to practice a lot more.
It seems that every Seal whoever existed now gives weapons advice on the internet. Splendid stuff! It was the same with the SAS after 5th May 1980. We are indeed honoured to have such expertise available.
First class instruction; thanks.
Amazing instructors and training courses !
At the 3:15+ mark, you specify clearing, etc in preparing to draw. Why not disguise by going into martial arts stance, weapon side back, with arms in action like you are moving to a defensive stance ? That way, with one simple move you can draw the gun as far back as the back hip and go into action from there.
Great point. We did not explicitly mention this but very important. Thanks for commenting!
Good points on ammo selection. In a crowded urban environment, that round can do a lot of unintended damage. Everyone these days is so stuck on “FBI minimum penetration” in gel. I can personally testify that something like a 124-grain HST can go right through the brick exterior wall of an apartment building. Seeing a bunch of brick walls behind your target doesn’t mean the backstop is safe.
Love seeing traing like this but i want to recreate real life situations love to see you guys act them out
I love your work - thank you.
Great video, gentlemen. I'm an old retired Army E8 but I can always learn. When you think you know everything you are deluding yourself. Situational awareness is vital in an urban environment because of uninvolved bystanders.
Excellent Training Video, THANKS
More of these types of videos please
Thanks for the tips.
I have always trained with real ammo unless we’re going to shoot at live targets. Unless someone train’s doing these precise movements to where it becomes muscle memory you will never do this correctly! Training is a constant rehearsal of proper protocol and techniques! Your train to make every movement natural!
But if you get a decent airsoft clone, the manual of arms is exactly the same. You can even get branded ones from the major manufacturers that even have the same trigger feel.
Using those means 90% of training can be done without ammo.
What I had been taught in the forces a long time ago and very far from here is that you have to try to walk backwards only as far as necessary since it is very easy to trip and fall and then you could be in serious trouble.
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You're welcome!
Thanks, excellent instruction! So much to learn and practice, so little time.
Excellent instruction!
well the other reason for the tilt is to avoid getting clothing caught as well as slide hitting the body and causing a malfunction. Circumstances determine method used and what is practical. Distance is your friend, target and beyond as you are responsible for every shot fired. Your a hundred % correct there Training is key which is why constitutional carry can be a problem when people don't seek proper training.
Agree w/99% the ONLY thing is that the 45° can't DOES SERVE A PURPOSE. Its so that the slide doesn't hit your body causing a malfunction, typically on a close draw the gun would be tucked a bit closer as well. At least this was how I was instructed in the Marines.
Solid, each step of the way, solid. Thank you
Interesting, but how do I legally justify force multiplication from non lethal hands to firearm if not dodging bullets or knife swipes without becoming the bad guy?
Drawing the weapon isn’t the same as firing. This technique will help you get the weapon out. Then you just decide what kind of force is necessary.
You move to a state that recognizes fundamental human rights
This is interesting stuff, but just take a boxing class for a few months then a jujitsu class for a few months that'll help you far more simply because few people will actually practice this but in a class you have to practice and that'll ingrain it in your brain.
How are you going to operate a weapon system with injured hands? Go to the ground to wrestle? How do you know the other guy does not have a knife?
@rodvan-zeller6360 Harden your hands through training, and I'm saying punch them back as opposed to elbow out/push. The ground training is simply to escape and regain a standing position.
Good job guy's, and thank you for your service to help keep this country free,and safe! And to show my appreciation, I do contribute to the wounded warrior project!!!
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I agree with all of this there saying. Because they are absolutely correct. The only issue now a days. Criminal are carrying guns also. I was always told never to draw from the drop. If a criminal has the drop on you. You have to find a way to conceal your draw. Basically, you have to pray they don't shoot you and wait for your turn if they already have the drop on you.
Even as a martial artist over 35 years. And fighter. Space is the enemy unless I create it. There, for a yes, a person being within your range can be good or bad depending on the situation. Or if I was the one to minimize or close distance. I'm speaking from a tactical close quarter combat perspective.
Each situation causes different applications and tactics. But I agree with the great video.
Great tips. I love being a member of USCCA.
Good luck if you ever need them.
Great channel. It has a big range of topics. It’s appreciate that. Keeping up to date to legal issues and topics to something like this. I found this incredibly helpful. I plan to start taking some classes to diversify my tool box. This was practical and explained simply. Now, I just need to start getting my reps in. Thank you for sharing this. 👍🏼
Any videos on height and size differences in being able to use your CCW (ie...short vs tall)
Something one of my instructors said. If you have to shoot in a crowded situation. If you drop to a knee, then the trajectory is upward. So it should go over the heads of anyone standing behind your target. Something to practice when you're out in public. Just look around and mentally think if they do X I'll do Y. Do the same thing driving, think if car X does this, I'll do that. Practice situational awareness all the time and have a plan. Understand the OODA loop.
Good info. Don’t forget folks once you push away and if you’re able to create distance or can continue to create distance now you have to decide in a flash if you now created a scenario where you’re able to get away and deadly force is no longer needed if it was in the first place. The bitter sweet truth is even though you’re state allows you to carry you’re almost always in the wrong to actually fire or at least that’s how you should look at it(check your laws). These things are taught in your training classes. So get that training folks.
You should do a video on what to do if you are attacked in a vehicle and are seatbelted into it, either on the driver side or passenger side (ex. Waiting for a friend to go to the bathroom while you wait in the parked car)? How do you get the attacker away from you when they have all of the leverage and advantage?
I like seeing these with ppl of such a size difference.
Great training video. Thanks.
In Israel we use safety rods while training so you get the feeling of the real thing when working with a partner. But we never walk around with a loaded gun so your drill must include loading the gun. great video, thanks!
Ergonomics and expended casing direct. Out and away. Palm up right hand palm down left hand.
Outstanding, gentlemen. Thank you from a 10-yr USCCA member.
in drills like this i think the use of fixed blade knives or even good on body flashlights in the off hand should also be talked about and implemented to help create distance
I feel like one huge point that was missed in this video is that the pistol must be ready to shoot save for operating the safety. Off hand is not available to rack the slide. Some people advocate to not have a round chambered when carrying inside waistband to mitigate accidental discharge, and that would not work at least with these methods.
The triangular shield with the elbow out impairs considerably your view, in particular onto the lower body parts of your opponent (hip or higher) where he/she might hold a weapon such as a knife.
Try it out!
Using the (in this case) left hand/arm for keeping distance is ok, but blinding your view onto the opponent is not.
Just my 2 Cents
Excellent Skill / Knowledge Transfer, with very effective Teaching / Training Styles / Cadence. ⚕️🇺🇸
I have to FIRST and FOREMOST Thank you Both for your service and the sacrifices that you and your families have endured for those of us here at home!!! Now, secondly I must commend you both mentioning for everyone to be cognizant of the background when and IF we fire our weapons! This is the first time I've seen a "Expert" or someone from SOCOM to mention that very important part in a life and death situation! Thank you!
Just want to say this is the best gun education video I’ve seen. Really easy to understand and follow. Appreciate it!
I just had a thought. If you also happen to have a pepper spray item (like an asp), i would keep that in the support hand if possible and use your elbow to help aim with that.
This is a great video, but many people (myself included) do not carry with a round in the chamber. Would love to see a video that includes drawing and chambering a round before firing.
Very well done and professionally presented unlike many others who feel the need to use foul language that appear to think that this makes the information better understood....not.
I like your guys’ style of instruction. Thank you for this lesson! 👊🏽
The only thing that I would add to this is the use of a pectoral index instead of a canted sideways shot. What is your biological indicator for this grip? The baseplate of the magazine to my hip, abdomen, ribcage, frontal latissimus? This is especially simple while drawing from concealment at the appendix position. A high and tight chicken wing paired with that forward shielding arm allows the elbows to do their job of mitigating shock if i were to bump into something during my drawstroke. Thus, reducing my risk of missing the intended target or shooting myself.
A pectoral index keeps your weapon further away from the threat as well as allows for a bit more accuracy on those initial shots. By keeping my body in proper form and utilizing my natural indicators of my anatomy, I create a turret with my torso which allows for this improved accuracy and helps to mitigate shooting myself in the leveraging arm.
Additionally, your barrel is pointed slightly downward through the sternum and pelvic box or even the legs (femoral artery) of the would be attacker, which helps to account for your backdrop and over penetration. This activates the FIBS factor the same way as they described allowing for you to still circle away off of the X and get those accurate follow up shots from your full extension.
Keeping your thumb up and out against your body allows you to maintain a solid master grip while keeping your slide clear of hang ups on your shirt material.
That's just my thoughts, anyways. Everything else is absolutely sound.
Good vid. More details on the basic-mid level hand to hand technique while drawing would be appreciated(never heard anyone talk about a shoulder block but with a heavily bladed stance it could be effective…unless they throw a body shot lol). The shoulder thing was all I could think of but I’ll bet you guys can teach us more!
Yes, more to come! Thank you!
Hello I have a shoulder replacement I’m 76 years old and I have a hard time drawing front appendix and also from the 3 o’clock position so I’ve chosen cross draw it’s his work very well for me could you shush how to defend yourself with a cross Draw thank you
Will keep that in mind! Thank you!
The shield is correct. The draw is wrong. I also was taught the wrong way like this. Now I’ve learned the right way. Draw the firearm straight up out of the holster, until your thumb is up to the peck muscle and fire. Doing this at close quarters you will never miss.
Good video guys, thank you for this post !!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Need more videos from the navy seals, they explained this info to the tee
The second technique should be a chop or forearm smash to the carotid or head, followed by highly trained fighting skill. You best have unarmed martial skill to handle close combat, a gun is not enough. This simply framing with the forearm is easily countered by his pushing your arm across, turning you and taking your back.
If he stays light on his toes, the pressure from the assailant can be used by the Target to Circle off the X and keep that distance. Sure the target might have to sacrifice the hand to some degree, but that's and acceptable price to pay to win a fight for your life
@@VikingVic76 if you have the sensitivity, relaxation and skill to yield to the assailant pushing on your framing arm and so not get jammed up and turned then the static block can be safe while you draw but realistically that takes high skill and repeated striking to the windpipe and carotid is far better anyway. If an attacker is that close just hit him first. Being light on your toes is fine for mobility at a distance but in close combat you lose stability compared to planted feet and losing your footing in a fight is the last thing you want.
Best way to counter that would be a poke to the eyeballs or a palm/fist to the nose or even a kick to the crotch. Don't have to be a martial arts master just aim for the weak spots
Float like butterfly, sting like JHP +P
Great content. Hope to see more from these experts.
Great advice thanks
Guys pretty solid video , the way you create the space also allows for maintaining the space. All three elements are solid . One small thing is I’m worried about me elbow on full extension version.
All in all solid work . Will work on this a while and see with a gun in holster as I carry on hip . Thanks 🙏 😅
thank you, i learned something today we appreciate sharing your knowledge .
Excellent video!
Thanks.
You're welcome
Another alternative is the training barrels, which is solid piece of plastic formed into a barrel, they are hard to find, but 5.11 used to make them, I have three, for Sig 228, G19/G27/26, they are designed for snapping in, but can work the same for this time of training..
Ladies, keep in mind that you will need extra hands on training because there’s the tricky aspect of disparity of force that we need to accommodate.
Worthwhile to watch, but am suspicious of relevance if you are a small woman dealing with a large male attacker
Definitely still relevant, no matter size differences. But as will all techniques, you need to train relentlessly. If you’re in CA, come out to a course.
Good form. Thank you
What if assailant try change levels and grab your legs? If you react by sticking hand out lower by hip level and then draw pistol and sim from hip you may shoot your hand.
Thanks for the video. Gracie’s teach knee stomps to keep the attackers from getting too close. Is that a good option for these types of scenarios?