Reading the predctions after watching the full season is unbelievably funny So many people thought Julia would be the first or second to be booted LMAO
Some predictions I have for the season are: There will be an all girls alliance that dominates the game and with that, an all female finale. My boy Damien gets an unfair boot at the merge, only to comeback the following season and win. MK is the amputee There will be no invincibility statue the first season, but there will be one in the second season. The Finale will be MK vs Axel.
I could personally see Damien, MK and Chase being the top 3. Also, I think Zee and Chase are brothers (based on their appearance and color matching clothing).
I don't think at all that Axel will be the seasons antagonist. This season is supposed to be focused on returning to the show's roots. In which case they will want Nichelle to the villain because she gives off major Heather vibes.
God I hope Zee makes it at least somewhat far, unfortunately I think he’s gonna be the first boot due to his simple design and his name being eerie similar to Zeke
I have a strong suspicion that Scary Girl would secretly be Dawn or something. At the very least an old cast member. She just gives off that vibe, IDK.
Ngl, I want Axel as the American winner and whoever else as the Canadian winner. I only say that because i'm already going to like Axel just based on her style and possible potential as antagonist or finalist. But my main look out is to hear scary girl's real name
Bro chase is definitely going to be in a romance, he's the most normal looking handsome dude, and I think Wayne is going to outlast Raj just based on design, his red hat makes him stand out more. Unfortunately I do believe that Damien is going home fairly early, which is a shame cause his design is really good.
I think MK is the new Heather and Scary Girl is Dawn from Revenge of the Island. I Think that Dawn had a mental breakdown about the world not caring about the world and instead became insane and started to make fires and chop Down trees. I Think Axel will also go insane and I Think Ripper will win. He’s like the new owen
I feel that it’s going to be be Bowie (for being the first gay character in the show ) and Nichelle (probably the villain) or maybe Emma (she give me a type of cute unpredictable winner vibes )
I have a theory that those two line up are in fact the order of elimination from both teams (Caleb the first voted out of his team and Priya the first voted of her team) making the top two being Scary girl VS MK and I would be fine with that
This is my prediction Elimination order: 1. Chase (Just another pretty boy, quite forgettable tbh) 2. Millie (Tbh she's also quite forgettable) 3. Caleb (I think he is quite a strong contender but him being eliminated early on the season will give us a sense that it's anyones game) 4. Julia (she’s giving me major Lindsay vibes so I think there could perhaps be a Nichelle, Julia and Emma alliance. I think Emma will be that sweet character that will get influenced very easily, but Julia to me doesn’t stick out as Lindsay did) 5. Wayne (Wayne and Raj are definitely the Katie and Sadie of this season, why not do an homage and have one of them be the 5th eliminated contestant) 6. Ripper (I think Ripper will be one of the comical reliefs but tbh might get booted early on and perhaps brought back) 7. Raj (also quite forgettable, Raj and Wayne are perhaps only filler characters) 8. Zee (i think MK and Zee might be besties and I think he will also be a comical relief but I don’t see him continuing and 8th place isn’t so bad) 9. Axel (i was stuck between eliminating Axel or Damien first. I think other contestants might find her intimidating and a threat and thus placing her in 9th place) 10. Emma (She seems to be the ray of sunshine. And if she does turn out to be the type of person who gets influenced by others, others might take advantage of her. My suspicion is Nichelle) (Nichelle, Scary Girl, Priya, Bowie, Damien, MK are the remainder contestants) - 2 elimanted characters come back (Axel and Ripper) 10. Ripper (again) (brought back and eliminated as Izzy, since he has a strong character feature I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s one of the eliminated contestants that are brought back) 11. MK (I think and hope MK makes it this far, however, I don’t think they are particularly a contender for winning. Perhaps a fan favorite) Top 6 (Priya, Axel, Damien, Nichelle, Scary Girl and Bowie) 12. (6th place) Priya (I see Priya and i get major Zoey/Gwen main female protagonist vibes, however I don’t think she will advanced further than 6th place) 13. (5th place) Axel (again) (Eliminated again as she is a threat) 14. (4th place) Damien (Perhaps another strong character who also gets booted for being a threat) Finale 3: (Nichelle, Scary Girl and Bowie) 1st Runner Up: Nichelle (Major Heather vibes. Would be nice to give Nichelle en homage to Heather and place her as 3rd place. Hopefully her elimination is the cause of someone or something just as Heathers) 2nd Runner Up: Bowie (I was stuck between Bowie and Scary Girl but it think both are great contenders for the win. Bowie’s design is memorable and might become a fan favorite) Winner: Scary Girl (She’s instantly a fan favorite and the fact that she looks like Dawn has everyone hooked already. Her character design is perhaps one of the most that stands out. Would love to see her win)
I will too. She is by FAR my favorite character in this season, seeing all of them. *that doesn’t mean I don’t like the rest I’m just saying she’s my favorite:)
to the people that keep saying “i think the finale will be a girl v girl finale since revenge of the island was a boy vs boy” or “i think it’s gonna be a 3 person finale” i don’t think it’s gonna be any of those and i think it migjt just be a regular boy v girl finale
I think the finale is going to Damian and Axel. Damian looks too be manipulative but also very chill very smart and strategic. Axel will probably be the Eva but except she makes it far but I think she will be a interestingly good character.
Fr, people think having a cool or interesting design means they're gonna go far and win like nah.. Say that to Zeke, Tyler, B, Dawn, Leonard, Ella, and Topher, all of them had interesting designs but were treated like filler characters in their seasons.
Personally? Winning odds isn't placement: Moreover: emma is easily either 1st two gone, or making it past merge Meanwhile, I think chase has 0 chance to win, but *will* make it past merge (such a pity, he's like a mike/dave hybrid)
I think Nichelle is gonna be the Heather of the season. We haven't had a real antagonist since season 3, so I hope they give us a good one this season. Also btw I think Emma is gonna win.
@@stringedmouse7695 I like Scott as a character but he's a horrible villain he is nowhere near as good as Heather or Alejandro but at the same time Mal booted out half the cast
Am I the only one who thinks these characters are kind of boring? Like obviously I don’t want a wacky cast like Pawkitew but I don’t like how these characters are TOO realistic compared to the og cast. A lot of these characters look too similar
My elimination order Ep 1:Julia Ep 2:Wayne Ep 3:Chase Ep 4:Priya Ep 5:Raj Ep 6:Damien Ep 7:Emma Ep 8:Millie Ep 9:Nichelle Ep 10:Zee e Mk Ep 11:Axel Ep 12:Caleb e Scary Girl Ep 13:2nd:Ripper 1st:Bowie I agree with you Julia has a very normal design so i think she will be the first eliminated
I kinda disagree on some of it. I think Julia will make it far. Thin’ about she looks like nothing special, therefore we don’t expect her to go far. But she doesn’t look silly enough to be early eliminated like let’s say Leonard, or Beardo. Julia gives me some season 1 Lindsay vibes and Nichelle is the Heather. In my theory Nichelle is gonna use Julia to get far, then with the final 5 or so Julia will get eliminated. I think we’ll see what the writers will do, but I did hope they brought back characters that never got many chances. Trent, Katie and Sadie, Eva. Then maybe Brick, B, Dawn and maybe Ann-Maria. But idk maybe there’s a reason they since after World Tour gone for a 16 cast.
Someone didn't see the promotional pics where both Nichelle and Julia are missing from their teams' group shots... But there's always a chance this will be the case in their second season!
If it is two seasons i feel like in one of them there will be a female finale and in the other a boy/girl finale Aside of that i only can imagine Wayne and maybe axel getting to the finale (maybe in different seasons)
Like 90 percent sure this season will have an all female finale so one of the girls is probably gonna win for sure
i think we may get a 3 person finale; 2 girls 1 boy.
@@mikeydowikey4140 Omg imagine if they all tie in the final 3 challenge
@@mikeydowikey4140 Like Season 3
@@ZekeorSomething no. like a 3 person finale. no tie-breaker.
@@candii_sweets I mean I think that was just a brains vs brawn idea
Reading the predctions after watching the full season is unbelievably funny
So many people thought Julia would be the first or second to be booted LMAO
True lol
I see Damien vs Axel with Damien winning
bruh they better not eliminate damien early
this took a wrong turn
Damien is hype, I hope he makes it far
agreed
Facts he that nigga
He's def gon be the Duncan of this season, he'll prob make it to top 5 or 4 for sure. I would be very surprised if he got out before the merge
@@xblaze6273facts or he could be like in action where he just survives and then goes off at the end and wins or top 3
Same
Some predictions I have for the season are:
There will be an all girls alliance that dominates the game and with that, an all female finale.
My boy Damien gets an unfair boot at the merge, only to comeback the following season and win.
MK is the amputee
There will be no invincibility statue the first season, but there will be one in the second season.
The Finale will be MK vs Axel.
Cool unexpected for some reason I feel like Axel knock MK into space
your “boy” damien? the season isn’t even out yet
Mk off the dezine is my favorite and it would make sense with a girls finally since in revenge it was a all boys
@@breslife6229 SPOLIERS
she was the second one to
Well...Damiens one right
I could personally see Damien, MK and Chase being the top 3.
Also, I think Zee and Chase are brothers (based on their appearance and color matching clothing).
old i thought the same thing!!!(the brothers part)
I don't think at all that Axel will be the seasons antagonist. This season is supposed to be focused on returning to the show's roots. In which case they will want Nichelle to the villain because she gives off major Heather vibes.
Nichelle just beams that energy of “I’m going to make it to the final 5 because of plot armor”
@@rb.v I agree
@@rb.v then in the second season she basically just gets booted off immediately she just feels like that kind of character
@@rb.vgonna ignore the fact that everyone immediately suspected the dark skinned girl is going to be mean and ruthless
@@successfulrecords B?
Spoiler Alert, his finale pick was at least half right
Reading these comments after watching the season is interesting ngl
The intro 😱 its back, and it’s still as beautiful as the day we lost it 😭
God I hope Zee makes it at least somewhat far, unfortunately I think he’s gonna be the first boot due to his simple design and his name being eerie similar to Zeke
My pre-faves are Damien, Ripper, MK, Scary Girl, and Chase.
I can definitely see this elimination order playing out I agree with this list entirely
I think that scary girl isn’t dawn, but she is dawn’s sister.
I have a strong suspicion that Scary Girl would secretly be Dawn or something. At the very least an old cast member. She just gives off that vibe, IDK.
Ngl, I want Axel as the American winner and whoever else as the Canadian winner. I only say that because i'm already going to like Axel just based on her style and possible potential as antagonist or finalist. But my main look out is to hear scary girl's real name
Bro chase is definitely going to be in a romance, he's the most normal looking handsome dude, and I think Wayne is going to outlast Raj just based on design, his red hat makes him stand out more. Unfortunately I do believe that Damien is going home fairly early, which is a shame cause his design is really good.
Thanks for picking scary girl, she was one of the 5 people I thought could win this season.
My Way:
Zee
Wayne
Emma
Caleb
Julia
Raj
Damien
Bowie
(Merge)
Scary Girl
MK
Ripper
Nichelle
Millie
Axel
Chase
Priya
I think MK is the new Heather and Scary Girl is Dawn from Revenge of the Island. I Think that Dawn had a mental breakdown about the world not caring about the world and instead became insane and started to make fires and chop Down trees. I Think Axel will also go insane and I Think Ripper will win. He’s like the new owen
I Think that Scary girl and Ripper Will be in the finale and she will reveal that she is Dawn and seeking maybe for revenge
Scary Girl is not Dawn
Ripper is not the new Owen
And neither of them won
Bowie and Priya were final two
I was completly wrong 😂😂😂
My elimination prediction:
16. Priya
15. Zee
14. Julia
13. Millie
12. Wayne
11. Caleb
10/9. Scary Girl: Jointly eliminated
10/9. Chase: Jointly eliminated
(Merged teams)
8. Nichelle: Automatically eliminated
7. Raj
6. Emma
5. Bowie: Automatically eliminated
4. Axel
3. Ripper: 3rd
2. Damien: 2nd/Runner-up
1. MK: 1st/Winner
16th chase (6th)
15th julia (4th)
14th caleb (16th)
13th millie (3rd)
12thNichelle (14th)
11th wayne (10th/9th)
10th prya (1st/2nd)
9th zee (7th)
8th mk (11th)
7th ripper (8th)
6th emma (5th)
5th raj (10th/9th)
4th axel (15th)
3rd damien (12th)
2nd bowie (1st/2nd)
1st scary girl (13th)
Bowie only have 2nd place there no alternative ending in reboot
I feel that it’s going to be be Bowie (for being the first gay character in the show ) and Nichelle (probably the villain) or maybe Emma (she give me a type of cute unpredictable winner vibes )
He isn't the first gay character in the show. Jacques and Tom says hi
@@iluna1975 they aren’t canon, and they never show attraction to other men, but I’m sure a lot of the td,ri,pi and rr cast is lgbt
@@emilioxd6140 They are canon gays just look that up on TD wiki. Tom McGillis and Jennifer Pertsch confirmed it
@@iluna1975 Fr?
My Prediction:
16.) Zee
15.) Wayne
14.) MK
13.) Axel
12.) Bowie
11.) Raj
10.) Emma
09.) Julia
08.) Priya
07.) Caleb
06.) Damien
05.) Millie
04.) Ripper
03.) Scary Girl
02.) Michelle
01.) Chase
Good prediction i have one too
Axel, Bowie, Chase, Damien, MK, Priya, Scary girl, and Zee are my favs so far. I'm hoping they're top 8, and I think Axel would be a winner
I have a theory that those two line up are in fact the order of elimination from both teams (Caleb the first voted out of his team and Priya the first voted of her team) making the top two being Scary girl VS MK and I would be fine with that
This is my prediction
Elimination order:
1. Chase (Just another pretty boy, quite forgettable tbh)
2. Millie (Tbh she's also quite forgettable)
3. Caleb (I think he is quite a strong contender but him being eliminated early on the season will give us a sense that it's anyones game)
4. Julia (she’s giving me major Lindsay vibes so I think there could perhaps be a Nichelle, Julia and Emma alliance. I think Emma will be that sweet character that will get influenced very easily, but Julia to me doesn’t stick out as Lindsay did)
5. Wayne (Wayne and Raj are definitely the Katie and Sadie of this season, why not do an homage and have one of them be the 5th eliminated contestant)
6. Ripper (I think Ripper will be one of the comical reliefs but tbh might get booted early on and perhaps brought back)
7. Raj (also quite forgettable, Raj and Wayne are perhaps only filler characters)
8. Zee (i think MK and Zee might be besties and I think he will also be a comical relief but I don’t see him continuing and 8th place isn’t so bad)
9. Axel (i was stuck between eliminating Axel or Damien first. I think other contestants might find her intimidating and a threat and thus placing her in 9th place)
10. Emma (She seems to be the ray of sunshine. And if she does turn out to be the type of person who gets influenced by others, others might take advantage of her. My suspicion is Nichelle)
(Nichelle, Scary Girl, Priya, Bowie, Damien, MK are the remainder contestants) - 2 elimanted characters come back (Axel and Ripper)
10. Ripper (again) (brought back and eliminated as Izzy, since he has a strong character feature I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s one of the eliminated contestants that are brought back)
11. MK (I think and hope MK makes it this far, however, I don’t think they are particularly a contender for winning. Perhaps a fan favorite)
Top 6 (Priya, Axel, Damien, Nichelle, Scary Girl and Bowie)
12. (6th place) Priya (I see Priya and i get major Zoey/Gwen main female protagonist vibes, however I don’t think she will advanced further than 6th place)
13. (5th place) Axel (again) (Eliminated again as she is a threat)
14. (4th place) Damien (Perhaps another strong character who also gets booted for being a threat)
Finale 3: (Nichelle, Scary Girl and Bowie)
1st Runner Up: Nichelle (Major Heather vibes. Would be nice to give Nichelle en homage to Heather and place her as 3rd place. Hopefully her elimination is the cause of someone or something just as Heathers)
2nd Runner Up: Bowie (I was stuck between Bowie and Scary Girl but it think both are great contenders for the win. Bowie’s design is memorable and might become a fan favorite)
Winner: Scary Girl (She’s instantly a fan favorite and the fact that she looks like Dawn has everyone hooked already. Her character design is perhaps one of the most that stands out. Would love to see her win)
Love the content as always ❤️
Ive missed that old intro with Cody strapped to the bomb
i want nichelle to win, her design is so eye-catching and idk she reminds me of myself
S7&8
I don't care what production codes TDAS and TDPI have, they are not the same Season
I can see scary girl being a nickname chef gives her and the start of the season but we will probably see her real name.
0:07 PUT CODY DOWN 🔫
This didn’t age that good…
Actual elimination order:
16th: Caleb
15th: Axel
14th: nichelle
13th: scary girl (lauren)
12th: damien
11th: MK
10th & 9th: wayne & raj
8th: ripper
7th: zee
6th: chase
5th: emma
4th: julia
3rd: possibly bowie
2nd: possibly millie
1st: possibly priya
bowie and priya are the finalists, millie is 3rd
It’s interesting to see this cause my prediction list is TOTALLY different but this is fun to see
I will CRY if scary girl is out first
I will too. She is by FAR my favorite character in this season, seeing all of them. *that doesn’t mean I don’t like the rest I’m just saying she’s my favorite:)
to the people that keep saying “i think the finale will be a girl v girl finale since revenge of the island was a boy vs boy” or “i think it’s gonna be a 3 person finale” i don’t think it’s gonna be any of those and i think it migjt just be a regular boy v girl finale
How so?
Return Of The King 👑
First boot is Zee not Julia my great idea is Zee is first boot Julia is the finalist most episodes with Scary Girl also Chase is third place
I think the finale is going to Damian and Axel. Damian looks too be manipulative but also very chill very smart and strategic. Axel will probably be the Eva but except she makes it far but I think she will be a interestingly good character.
I can honestly see Damien and Axel being the final 2
Great Prediction
For Season 2
I swear y’all declare a winner based off design hello sky won and she had the most bland design ever
Fr, people think having a cool or interesting design means they're gonna go far and win like nah.. Say that to Zeke, Tyler, B, Dawn, Leonard, Ella, and Topher, all of them had interesting designs but were treated like filler characters in their seasons.
What I thought
16th: Millie
15th: Ripper
14th: Emma
13th Chase
12th: Caleb
11th: Damien
10th: MK
9th: Wayde
8th: Rajah
7th: Nishele
6th: Zee
5th: Scary girl
4th: Axel
3rd: Julia
2nd: Bowie
1st: Priya
Personally?
Winning odds isn't placement:
Moreover: emma is easily either 1st two gone, or making it past merge
Meanwhile, I think chase has 0 chance to win, but *will* make it past merge (such a pity, he's like a mike/dave hybrid)
Great video man! :) I think Ripper is the first elimination, and Millie is the winner.
Bro, Damien, Scary Girl, MK & Zee are making it to merge fo sho. My fav outta all of them doe is Damien. He def top 5.
Seriously? Chase as first boot?
this aged like milk
Fr
4:10 most people predict ripper as a first boot more like
Ripper seems like. A pre merge elimination my guess is that he’s gonna be the 4th 5th or 6th eliminated
If scary girl wins maybe scary girl will reveal that she is Dawn if
And Bowie would be Leonard to reveal that would be the crazy finals
Wait huh? Why are we saying that Scary Girl is secretly Dawn and Bowie is secretly Leonard?
Please don’t let the Dawn thing happen
@@emilyschiavone4056dawn 100% deserves more screen time, but this isn't the best way to do it
As much as I like Scary Girls design, I totally see her being a gimmick character that they eliminate first.
I want season 2 of the reboot to go back to the tda location
Axel = Eva
Emma = Scarlet (Scretly Evil)
Michelle and Julia = Katie and Sadie
Where are you getting the nichelle and Julia stuff from? They aren’t paired like Raj and Wayne read the sheet
Bro just tied Cody to a chair behind a giant bomb
He got Bowie right lol
"Damien for the win"
I’m hoping Damien makes it far, and I hope I can relate to these characters in a way unlike tdpi
I hope they change some of the designs of the characters. Some are SO BLAND. Pria, Nicheal, Julia. the others are okay but SO BLAND.
My winners predcitions being your first 2 boots 👁👄👁
WHEN IS IT OUT??
I hope Ripper makes it far
Thought this was gonna be a rant about TDI’s elimination order
damn i feel bad bro got half of the predilections wrong☹️
16th Caleb
15th Axel
14th Niche!le
13th Scary girl
12th Damien
11th MK
10/9th Wayne/Raj
8th Ripper
7th Zee
6th Chase
5th Emma
4th Julia
3th Millie
2rd Bowie
1nd Priya
2rd and 1nd 💀
Good job
I think Nichelle is gonna be the Heather of the season. We haven't had a real antagonist since season 3, so I hope they give us a good one this season.
Also btw I think Emma is gonna win.
What about Scott from Season 4? He deliberately sabotaged his own team to pick people off.
@@stringedmouse7695 I like Scott as a character but he's a horrible villain he is nowhere near as good as Heather or Alejandro but at the same time Mal booted out half the cast
Where are you getting the idea of Julia and Nichelle being a duo wtf
Am I the only one who thinks these characters are kind of boring? Like obviously I don’t want a wacky cast like Pawkitew but I don’t like how these characters are TOO realistic compared to the og cast. A lot of these characters look too similar
He watched the season and laughed at his prediction
Bowie is deflintey gonna be like dj even the mean chracter she will luv him and be sad when he gets voted off
Um now there is two Emma's in this universe Emma from Ridonculous Race and Noah's girlfriend and now this Emma
Just like the two Don's... at least their names are spelled differently.
@@stupidperson8780 yeah
Please be true, Scary Girl winning should happen, since it’s literally the best outcome!
I’m REALLY hoping Chase doesn’t get booted first this guy looks so chill and I could see him being besties with Zee
Same I hope they both atleast get some development or anything that may make them important.
He’s like and subscribe translation: like and subscribe, or Cody gets it
0:07 sierra with her damn 1000000000 alt accounts 😭
Stevie G gonna win fr
Ripper is 99% the first boot
He looks like he would say something either really sexist or really racist, no in between
@@rb.v I think in episode one he would either be sexist to priya or racist to Damien or chase
I see Nichelle and Julia as a Heather and Lindsay duo and Wayne and Raj as the Katie and Sadie but male idk 🤷🏻♂️♥️
Damien has that main character vibe but at the same time idk…
I hope we get some more information soon
My elimination order
Ep 1:Julia
Ep 2:Wayne
Ep 3:Chase
Ep 4:Priya
Ep 5:Raj
Ep 6:Damien
Ep 7:Emma
Ep 8:Millie
Ep 9:Nichelle
Ep 10:Zee e Mk
Ep 11:Axel
Ep 12:Caleb e Scary Girl
Ep 13:2nd:Ripper 1st:Bowie
I agree with you Julia has a very normal design so i think she will be the first eliminated
Pues Scary Girl our Harley Quinn and Draculaura Fusión is the favorita of all
Love this Video!
Yes Scary Girl should win
Nah I know you’re joking with this boot list cuz there ain’t no way
Finally someone who thinks chase will be the first boot too
I think Axel will be a mix of Eva, Jo, & Bridgette.
I kinda disagree on some of it. I think Julia will make it far. Thin’ about she looks like nothing special, therefore we don’t expect her to go far. But she doesn’t look silly enough to be early eliminated like let’s say Leonard, or Beardo. Julia gives me some season 1 Lindsay vibes and Nichelle is the Heather. In my theory Nichelle is gonna use Julia to get far, then with the final 5 or so Julia will get eliminated. I think we’ll see what the writers will do, but I did hope they brought back characters that never got many chances. Trent, Katie and Sadie, Eva. Then maybe Brick, B, Dawn and maybe Ann-Maria. But idk maybe there’s a reason they since after World Tour gone for a 16 cast.
Someone didn't see the promotional pics where both Nichelle and Julia are missing from their teams' group shots...
But there's always a chance this will be the case in their second season!
I juwt found out you were Trevor in disventure camp
I’m Derek lol
Oops
I mixed them up lol
how is that season 6💀
I hope Bowie doesn’t make it to the finale personally
Spoilers warning
Too late
lol
Well sucks to be you
Idk if this is anything. B reacted when the verdict was guilty
My prediction chase is zees younger brother and he will do everything to protect chase
No I think Zee is Chases younger and a lot more immature brother who they have a very close relationship with
1:00 Think they are the teams?
Ripper antagonist
LET CODY GO BRO
Michelle look like a villain idk. And Julia look a lindsay
Bowie was the r u
whyd u spoil it in the thumbnail?
He didn’t trust me, far from the truth actually
This was made 4 months ago before it came out also he is DEAD WRONG.
@@NA13C ohh lol
@@corruptedbird oh tyy
If it is two seasons i feel like in one of them there will be a female finale and in the other a boy/girl finale
Aside of that i only can imagine Wayne and maybe axel getting to the finale (maybe in different seasons)