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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2020
- ...well kinda...I explain in the video AND we have a field day with testing them!
Presonus E4.5-4.5" 2-Way Near Field Studio Monitor (Pair), Black (Eris E4.5)
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Probably one of the best reviews I've seen in a long time, clear, concise, no BS. Thank you
Jesus that turntable man. I miss my records. I am from Venezuela and my father had many records and I used to listen to them with him and I just moved to another country and left my old records back in my hometown but I really miss them. When you play that record and then the sound I just went crazy. Good stuff dude, good stuff.
These are near field monitors. To get the most out of them, you need to be very close to them and they have to be acoustically set properly. I've had them for about a year and I use them as monitors when digitizing 45s to a laptop. Essentially, I have the front of the speakers at about on the same plane as the computer screen at about 30 deg inward angles with the apex directly in front of me. They are also on foam speaker pads angling slightly upward. This reviewer is absolutely correct. The sound is incredible. A fantastic value and VERY highly recommended.
Sorry if thi is a kinda pointless question, but what would you say is the optimal distance from your head to place them? Would something like 3 feet from spea-ahem, monitor-to-ear be ok? What would you say is the best distance?
@@bailey2517 60 - 80 -120 cm. 45 degree both tangeled to your face ears. One angle this Ear, the other the other Ear. 120 cm + is okay too, but the Space Catching of the Tweeters becomes more difficult then.
Tweeters on Ear Level.
For all Frequencies less than 70 Hz, and maximum fun and accuracy add a Sub, they make add awesome with a Sub. They make the Details, und Knock short Punch, the Sub makes the Sub things. Perfect Combo. ;)
Yes minimum 4 feet from tweeter and ear
Interesting...I’ve always place my ears slightly inside of the triangle with the speakers actually aimed and centered on a point just behind my head, which i thought was standard. Is there an advantage to having the two channels arrive together in front of the ears? Tnx!
I would like to buy them BUT I can‘t find any symmetric/balanced cable for it in Germany 😡 I have 4.4 pentaconn out. Now I need a cable.
Nice! I honestly did not know the difference in monitors and speakers. I worked in radio from the late 80's to mind 2000's and we always had monitors in the studio and not speakers at every station I worked for but I never really thought about them being different. These sound decent enough, might be worth checking out.
Thank you so much for this review! Keep up the good work.
I'm not surprised that you found the treble and mid-range particularly good. In the kitchen, with its tile floor, granite countertop and stainless steel appliances, that makes sense. In a living room or bedroom, with its carpeting, draperies and couch or bed, you would have a richer and fuller sound.
Just got the 3.5s and they have tremendous accuracy for my studio mixing. For personal record listening I’d definitely get the 4.5s.
I hadn’t used simple monitors for years and it’s really cool to hear my own playing and vocals in such a clear manner…hadn’t thought of it for records.
That's great to hear, I just picked these up specifically for mixing. Along with the IK Multimedia Arc System 3.
4.5 are overkill 3.5. İ listen to major laser kate bush bovvie santigold radiohead,. Bass is never overbearing. Everything balancex dovvn to the, artistes vjoice never, drops
Was originally gonna get the 3.5 monitors but I ended up going with these 'cause I needed a little more low end for producing my heavier songs. They're pretty dang incredible for the price.
good stuff man just picked these up and am blown away
They sound good, was able to hear the quality through my headphones
Awesome sauce now I know the difference.. thanks in advance for your video good day Sr
All monitors are speakers. Not all speakers are monitors. Feel free to call them speakers.
I been using Logitech computer speakers this whole time lmaoooooo fuck I need monitors
NOOOOOOOOO. NEVER MAKE THIS MISTAKE IN YOUR LIFE. If you listen to mp3 files on your monitors, you degrade them.
this has helped me make my decision, thank you
Towards the end of 2019 I was looking for some monitors to use at home with my DJ gear, mainly to help with track preparation and with my Akai MPC. I'd looked at things like the KRK and Yamaha as they seemed the most common. I wanted something small and portable with accurate sound reproduction. Watts was not really a concern as I have over 5k in things Like Alto monitors etc. Amazon reviews seemed to favour PreSonus and I wasn't really familiar with them, but thought I'd go for it. I just went with the standard 3.5, and they are amazing, pretty much the only monitors I need in my day to day use.
Just got some 4.5s yesterday and sheeeeeesh. Those things blew me away at just a lil past half volume
Thanks for the review! great information
My pleasure!
Appreciate you! Thanks so much for this!!
Happy to help!
wOaH iT's AcTuAlLy PrEsOnUs
@@Recordology ... cam i use it as a multimedia speaker with PC?
Just got the E4.5 they sound amazing! Have sound options on the back end
Bought a pair. mamma mia! The clarity is exceptional. Power adequate for my uses- bass included. Highly recommend.
Thanks for review bro, I will buy this one I'm beginning for my rap music
They're for me. just off the back off this review, the Eres 4.5's are all I need. Accurate, high fidelity, reasonable volume, no color monitors are all i need. Thanks bro... the E4.5's are perfect for my requirements....
Good choice
John C . . . same for me, I think I can’t go wrong with these Eris 4.5 or E5 to set the audio in my new home studio.
I got a pair of this. Im thinking of buying another pair. Im using it for my turntable using the balanced pl input. Do you think its worth it?
For a minute there, i thought this was literally going to be a 'field' test.. haha. Great review sir!
Thank you very much!
Love Presonus. I own the 3.5s and am planning to upgrade to the E5 XTs by the end of the year
Been using them for a year now worth every penny!
do you think the Eris 3.5 will work well for a TV?
Hi guys! Do you recommend this monitors for the audio technicha lp60x? Im an ignorant with these matters and dont want to make any mistake :(
There's a little white noise coming from both of the speakers, even though there's no TRS cables connected and I turned the volume knob to zero.. can you help me out?
I have the 3.5 and I'm very happy with..the sound is so neutral,honest and nice..I love PreSonus speakers..and I'll buy a bigger one..but still thinking which one..thinking for an Eris E5 or the E5 XT..(also liked and subbed..) ;)
What do you use yours for
Nice review! :)
I just recently bought the Eris E4.5. It sounds great!
Hiya. Is the bass line good for mixing dance music with big bass.?
Same
Sold very good review Sir from the uk 🙌🏻
Enjoy!
Hello, thank you for this, im def picking this up even though MR4's price is a no brainer, it has rich sound(MR4) but i really prefer Eris' clear treble/vocal.
Middle room of my house open to a kitchen and open to a living room should I get 4.5 or the 5.25s
how much are these? i'd like to get a pair
Do you usually hear a beeep every single time you turn it on ?
a bit confused here... if these hava a more flat response, why using them with a turntable? I was also considering for playing vinyls, but not sure of how they match with an audio technica lp120 in a small room. If I were to be seated in front, that wouldn't make sense, since these are not planned to be place in a furniture instead of the desktop...
I bought guitar multi effects processor. I connected it to my small amp (combo of amp and speaker), but I realized that amp is alternating sound. I have double processing. Even on the cleanest/acoustic setting there is always some nodulation. A friend recommended to get a monitor as output from my processor, as monitor would produce clean sound as processor is producing. Would you agree and recommend this setup? Electric guitar -> multi effects processor -> monitor?
That is not my specialty… But it sounds like a good set up, these are intended to be studio monitors
You can buy neutral headphones to understand how the sound comes our from the multi effects processor, that’s what I do with my Line6. Otherwise such monitors will also do the job.
great review, i was wondering i saw another one that got acoustic spacing option depending on where u put them in the room.
is this a bluetooth vs non-bluetooth option or like a year/model based thing?
Excellent question - I am not sure on that one.....
@@Recordology just got the one without bluetooth and apparently it’s a bluetooth/no bluetooth option
dope review
Great job!
Thanks!
Would you say these are Full Range/Flat Response Speakers?
Will these operate from my Samsung Galaxy 21 ultra and my Hiby Dap in bluetooth
what are these columns for?
I've just bought these and they sound terrific. I've placed them in my living room and they sound so much better compared to the 5.1 speaker set that came with my Harman Kardon receiver.
I've hooked up my digital TV box to the line-in and my MacBook Air is streaming music through Bluetooth. My appartment is pretty small so these do very well here. No need for big unwieldy speakers. Not using a subwoofer either. I do have one here that came with the Harman Kardon speakers. And it's quite necessary when using the HK speakers. But in my opinion the E4.5's go low enough for my taste. My neighbours won't probably like a deep bass or high volume either. I live in an appartment complex after all.
I'm not into music production. I just love listening to music. And my Mac streams Apple Music, Tidal and Qobuz to the speakers. Next to Internet Radio and my own music collection.
They were 215 euro on Amazon, but totally worth it. My only regret. Wish I've bought them sooner 😀
Bought these, stoked
Awesome!
wow! awesome!
So ive watched a lot of comparison videos on presonus vs like mackies, m-audio, jbl, etc. My question is should i get the 4.5 or the 5s its not a big difference in price if the sound quality is there. I also like the fact the E5s have better wiring setup in my opinion
I have not tried them yet...I would go bigger if possible but these are indeed fantastic.
thank you!! gonna buy these speakers with my first turnable (audio-technica at-lp3)
- will the sound be good if i sit in front of the speakers at a distance of 1.5m?
(speakers next to the TV and i'm on the sofa)
- will this be a good set-up?
thank you if you answer!
That should be perfect!
@@Recordology
However I thought and ordered Audio-Technica AT-LP5x. Is this still a good set-up for the beginner?
My 3.5s are literally on the way to my house via Amazon today, just ordered them yesterday! I make bass-heavy music so I’m curious to see what everything will sound like. I’m so so so excited! Gotta get to work 🔥🔥🔥🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🏆🏆🏆
What do you think of the 3.5s? I'm afraid that there is no bass with these small speakers
The 3.5s work beautifully with the Eris Sub8. Otherwise, with just the 3.5s, you don't get much below 80hz. The Sub8 goes to 30hz and makes it great...
👏👏“Round here!"🎼🎤🎸🎹🙏
@@Genii69 just done the same thing! If you like bass you need the sub8 😎
Would you recommend them for someone who likes bass? I am not a bass for ignorant loud music, I am looking to hear bass lines in House music and Reggae Music. Would you say these are ok or good for that?
Good question. Bass is ok - not insane. They make an optional powered subwoofer that would help.
Do you think a digital piano would sound good using these speakers?
I suppose you could alter the sound a lot with the bass/treble knobs if you weren't happy ?
Nice video by the way.
Yes, absolutely
Quick adjustment of the highs n lovvs your good to go. İt picks up lo sounds perfectly. İt brings out sounds u did not kno there. Full octave of every note. . İts, so good i dont even share hovv much of a big deal it is me having but i see many ppl still guessing after revievvs as some utubers not good at revievvs from a listeners perspective.. .. Alk the frequencies base mid heights, voice of artiste are balanced. U get a dirüct feel if hovv a studo recording shld be directly to your ear. No artificial bass adjustments needed that muddy the track ir overpovver the vocals. They got everything fight on this one. İt stays balanced even played at lovv volumes
Looking to upgrade from my almost 10 year old Kurzweil KS-40A and these look like a good upgrade.
How's the kursweils? My nearest music shop sells them and I am terrified of buying something that noone knows
i have a pair of e5s has anyone compared these to krk or yamahas, i ask because i really want to get a pair of yamaha but don't know if the sound quality difference is worth the upgrade
So, would you say these monitors are not suitable for a turntable? I have an Audio Technica with an incorporated pre amp
Dude, these speakers are waaaay better than most speakers were when turntables were an actual thing rather than a Gen Z idiocy.
To use them with an old Turntable (Without an inside amplifier at the TT) - I'll need a phono preamp?
Yes
Awesome review..
Glad you enjoyed it
Would these 4.5's and an 8'' subwoofer combo be overkill for a turntable? Or would you still benefit greatly from just getting the sub if you have a chance? (for a bedroom set up) Thanks for the demo!
It would be an amazing bedroom setup for sure....
these things produce enough bass you don't need a sub.
unless you listen to the music kids listen to in their cars.
i call them "earthquake on 4 wheels". lol : ))
Noob question... I want to use the “left speaker” on the right. All I need to do is put the red wire into the white input and vis a versa?
That is correct - actually that's what I do as well. If you connect via BT be advised it will switch back.
@@Recordology ok great to know thanks so much for the reply!
There are no noob questions. If you don't ask, you'll never know!
Great review, I have a question, I am guitar player. I am what they call a "bedroom musician", and I practice a lot with my headphones. I am using the beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 ohm Limited Edition Professional Studio Headphones, Black, they sound great, but I am looking a pairs that will replicate the sound of my amp modeling software. I am using TH3 by overloud, Amplitube 5.5. I am using the iPad 10. Would you recommend these speakers? I am also looking at the iLoud Micro Monitors. Thank you for posting this.
Thank you....I DO think these would be good for that yes.
I asked my uncle who is an audiophile for advice on computer speakers for some gaming, music and movies. I was going to get the logitech z623 but he told me to get these... Will they be as good or better than speakers for music and movies and my needs?
These sound good but keep in mind they are near field monitors so they are designed to sitting close to the listener.
i listened to this on my E4.5s lol just got them yesterday lol
I bought them, sound really good to me. But what do I know. Just took an online hearing test and my hearing stops at 7400 hz.
Thank you for the useful review!
Is it possible to connect these to an active subwoofer and make it all play via bluetooth?
BT for sure - possible I think as far as the woofer....
Does anybody know what's the name of 13:56 song ?
I heard there are many people complaining about hiss with Eris E4.5, but not really in this video, is that because the recording was made with a good distance away? Also, as comparison with the Eris 5BT 2nd Gen, has anyone experienced with it in term of sound quality, hiss, and comparision with Yamaha HS7 or Adam T7V. They are the one I am considering currently, maybe combined with a Sub like Eris 8BT, is that a good idea or it will give more hiss? Thanks for any input.
First I have heard of this.....mine never hissed thankfully. There was however a short whine sound when first powered on.
@@RecordologyThanks for the information :)
Question, can I add a subwoofer to the monitors?
Yes mate, interface out-> subwoofer-> monitors.
Thank You Thank You Thank You!
You are so welcome!
Checked Amazon for prices... out of stock (just this model). Coincidence?
You can check zzounds or sweet water they should be available there to.
Would these be good for a classroom? I’m a school teacher looking to deliver sound to all parts of my room
Not these ones....they are designed for sitting right in front of them. I would recommend these however. amzn.to/3Jn3Hv9
Actually, yes these would be better than almost any other option in their price point for that use. I’ve had them, and I used them once in a large open floor plan at a friend’s house, and they were still great. I actually sold a pair of these to an English teacher that was wanting a pair of speakers to show films in her class, and these will be much more clear and understandable for the students trying to hear whatever you have playing through them.
@@Recordology What's wrong with sitting a bit farther then? I can't imagine they would sound worse than regular speakers?!
how do you connect one speaker to another?
There is a set of wires leading from one to the other.
any issues with humm noise?
none
If I buy a audio technica at lp60x, and these, would I be good to go?
yes - perfect!
@@Recordology i was akso considering the edifier R1700BTs, do you have any thoughts on those?
I've heard good things about those - haven't tried them yet.
For turntable usage, how would these compare to the Klipsch R-41PM? or the Presonus Eris e5 XT? Because I've got the Klipsch R-41PM on my main turntable/speaker (with the Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB) setup which sound great, I want a new setup for my other place, I'll buy the Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB again as I love it, and was wondering what speakers I should pair it with this time. Thanks!
I like these but I haven't really played with too many yet.
I'd just like to point out that you referred to these "NOT speakers" as speakers several times over the course of your "These are NOT speakers" video. All kidding aside, Great job I have been looking at these, MONITORS, for while. Your video is helpful.
whts difference between bt 4.5 ones and wires one 4.5????
Just the Bluetooth connectivity
Ia good for musix production?
I would say so yes absolutely.
They sound good as hell on monitor headphones... I can't wait until they're delivered...
Excellent choice :)
Does anyone on here recommend these for music production? I use them just for listening to CDs. The bass seems exaggerated. (Maybe it's because of listening in a bedroom studio).
What kind of music are you producing? Orchestral? Jazz? Movie scores? Certainly not and nobody is suggesting that you should. Are you making a demo tape or some background music for a CZcams video? Why not. Your demos will be judged by their musical quality and your video runs through a set of computer speakers or worse. So what's the harm?
Am I able to use these monitors with a power amplifier..It’s a Sony TA535 .. It’s got preamp facilities..Kindest regards
Thanks for writing! Only if there is a line out from it (non amplified.) hope this helps.
Thank you for your reply..it’s definitely an intergraded amp..I may go for a speaker option
The bass reflex on the back it's no go for me.
This is the first time I know your channel. Can i make friend with you
Can i use this with the tv?
Sure
So turns out I didn't know how to open a box. 😂
How come you didn’t explain what near field means? Does it mean they’re for small rooms coz you’re near the speakers?
I think we discussed that in reasonable detail.
@@Recordology Ok, maybe I had too much 🥃 :) My bad. Will listen again. Thank you!
Good video, worth learning. Thanking you. Wish you develop more .. learn exchange offline
Important tip if you're putting your turntable directly into powered speakers. If you have a CERAMIC cartridge (lesser quality, more stylus pressure -usually come with all-in-one systems or cheaper turntables - these can be plugged directly into the input of the powered speakers. MAGNETIC cartridges - more expensive, lighter stylus pressure, much better sound (more $$$$) require a phono preamp for correct sound (it increases the volume, bass and high frequencies) using something called the RIAA equalization curve. When records are cut, you can only put so much bass in a groove, otherwise it would jump out of the groove with a lot of bass....the RIAA curve lowers the volume of lows and highs when cutting the record, the phono preamp replaces them when you're playing back the record....and increases the volume of magnetic cartridges.. If you're investing in a record collection, magnetic cartridges are the way to go.... a ceramic cartridge will do serious damage and wear to a record with only a few playings.
Hiya. I'm interested in buying presonus 4.5 monitor speakers for mixing hardtechno on vinyl with technic turntables and pioneer mixer.! Would they be a good buy for my setup style.?
@@stewartthompson5901 you connect them to your mixer. Your mixer has phono preamp built in. In that sense they will work.
For bass heavy music I would recommend a subwoofer with these, but you can always try them and return them if they don't work for you
Yep!!
Why people recommend this for music production while it doesn't cover the low end frequencies lol?
Clickbaitey title there...
I like you reintroduced the recordsmasher though 😜
Bluetooth or not, if you're using these or any other modern active monitor set, your "analogue" signal is always being amplified by a class D digital power amp
Yes, it is, and it doesn't matter. Class D amplifiers are good enough for most people. Most people won't even know that their music went through the power chopper and even if they do, can they really tell the difference? I am not sure I could in a blind listening test.
get the non BT version it's AB class
Years later but looking now as a complete audio noob. Finally getting around to replacing some old Logitech X-220 speakers. I’m certain it’ll be a sizeable upgrade but man it’s been a struggle trying to find what’s the best “bang for the buck” at that $150-200 price point (based on Amazon prices at the time of commenting) explained in a way that a non-audiophile will understand
Trying to understand all the nuance is like explaining string theory to a cat. I just want something that “sounds good” out of the box with no tuning or mess of adapters or intermediary interfaces for gaming and video media at my desk - no mixing or audio engineering, just wanting high quality sound for casual consumption in near field (I think?). I just wanna link some aux cables to my pc/game consoles
It seems everyone you ask has a different answer for recommendations and it’s always adding the caveat that it depends on personal taste. But I have old cheap speakers with no sense of “personal taste”. It’s been incredibly hard finding general recommendations
I think I’ve finally narrowed it down to either these or the e5 version paired with a good sub (which will be a whole new beast of research)
Just got the 5's for my son. He says they are excellent. Go with the 8" sub they make.
So these are not for listening to music???
Yes, these are for listening to music, assuming that they are sitting two to four feet away from your ears. Monitors are for use in the near field. Speakers are for use in the far field. That's why good speakers will be quite a bit larger. So if all you have is a small bedroom and you are listening to music while sitting at your desk, these are perfect. If you want to have good audio in a large, wide open living room, then no, this is not the right choice. But here is the thing... that nice, wide open living room will have set you back by half a million dollars to multiple tens of millions of dollars, right? So in that case you can most likely afford $1000-$100,000 speakers anyway. However, if you don't have that kind of money and you want "good enough" audio quality in a small setting, these mini-monitors are delivering an incredible amount of value.
@@lepidoptera9337 You saying I won't be able to watch movies with these from 4 feet away?
do they hiss !!!
buena calida
MIXING TIP!! Make a duplicate of your tack. Turn Volume DOWN and mix on 1 ,Then Volume UP on other and mix!! Compare Mixes!
Am I wrong in thinking the Bluetooth version allows you to connect to a laptop wireless. Unlike the 4.5 you need it connected via wires.
Cos what I wanna know is Can you connect both the 4.5 and 4.5BT to Bluetooth via iPhone??
Iv been reading mixed reviews!! And would like it clearing up before I buy!
Thanks
You might want to be telling your audience that unless there is a PHONO PREAMP built into the turntable or into the monitors themselves, you will need a phono preamp connected between the turntable and the main monitor. This turntable in this video has a magnetic cartridge, so a phono preamp is needed.
The Marley has a built in preamp. We have talked about this many many times and have reviewed many preamps as well as done instructional videos on how magnetic carts vs ceramic carts work.
Hello! Would this monitors work on the audio technicha lp60x? I'm interested but I'm beyond ignorant on the matter
i seem to like them better than the regular speakers, humans are WAY TOO obessed with BASE frequency and think they improve the resince frequencies of morphic fields becuase its nuteral. and it allows you to also hear the human in the song instead the "sins" being hiddon. now id like to get the subwoofer after upgrading my pc but i think i just caught a pregnant cat and gonna have to deal with that. only problem with the speaker monitors (but ALLmost all pc speakers while not studio moinitors ARE near field) cant really listen outside the next room over, so hopefully can get the plugs for a more spitty long range speaker i got but dont ahve cords. i also for whatever reason in addition to the foam feet put the outline itself of the foam feet in the middle lol.
These are excellent little monitors, but if you want something equally as good, and need a sub out, look at the Edifier R1280Ts, basically the same speaker, but with a sub out, for some deep bass once in a while when you're not creating, and just listening. Other than that, it's VERY hard to beat the value in these, maybe impossible lol.
I ended up with the Eris 3.5bt, something just is so good about them, even without the sub out, I feel like it's just a better value.
You can get the presonus 8" sub and run a connection from it to these or the 3.5s for one of the best sounding, full range listening experiences I've ever, well, experienced.
How is 1280Ts the same speaker?
Those are in fact speakers
It's a bird .. (Title of CZcams recommended next video, should be correct)