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Who Are We? The Question of Identity I EconFest Debate

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  • čas přidán 6. 04. 2023
  • PIDE BASICS' survey shows that Pakistan has very low social capital, i.e., community sense, trust and the ability to collaborate. We have always struggled to establish a national identity. Data show that we are fragmented.
    The recent crises demonstrate it as well. What are the reasons for it and how it can be changed?
    #EconFest wants you to think hard about your future, our youth's future, and the future of economic policy in the country.
    EconFest wants to build a Pakistan full of opportunities for everyone, especially the youth.
    Speakers:
    RAMESH SINGH ARORA
    Former Member Punjab Assembly
    ASIF AQEEL
    Deputy Director, Center for Law and Justice,
    Forman Christian College, Lahore
    DURRE NAYAB (Moderator)
    Joint Director, PIDE
    EconFest is an Economy Festival organized for the firs time in Pakistan by ‪@PIDEOfficial‬ RASTA & PSDE (11th & 12th March 2023, Alhamra Arts Center Lahore).
    #BASICSsurvey #Beliefs #Pakistan #Economy #Conference #Education #Festival #Attitudes #SocialCapital #Youth #LUMS #IBA #Hindus #Sikh #Muslims #Pakistani
    For Further Details Please Visit:
    www.pide.org.pk
    ‪@PIDEOfficial‬
    / pidepk
    / pideislamabad
    / pidepk
    / pidepk

Komentáře • 50

  • @lordvondon
    @lordvondon Před rokem +5

    This Sikh guy in Pakistan himself is a 2nd class citizen. India has had Sikh Prime Minister as well Presidents but this Pakistani Sikh guy cannot become PMPresident in Pakistan because Pakistan's constitution doesn't allow non-muslims to become head of state and he is talking about Sikhs of India. Some God level denialiblity 👏👏👏

  • @quddusquddus136
    @quddusquddus136 Před rokem +9

    "Fragmentation." "Polarization." "Weak state." In fact Pakistan as a nation-state doesn't exist. This is the heart of the tragedy. For a nation-state to exist, it needs civic institutions. Those functioning civic institutions help create a dynamic economic sector. No other community was more degraded than the community of Muslims in a pre-partitioned India. Unlike the degraded Muslims, the more enlightened Hindus saw the obvious. In order to move forward, India needs talent and industries. For that the spread of education and science is critical. It was India's luck to have an enlightened leadership. They had not misused power. No military general in uniform lunatic enough to entertain a sense of grandeur. Result? Millions of Indians rose from the subsistence level of poverty in the last two decades. On the other side of border, a minister laments at the stunted children showing up in schools. In fact millions do not go to school. Now a failed and bankrupt state lives on remittances and seek bailouts from the I.M.F. Pakistan military generals run various "Criminal Enterprises" in a state with dead industries. They run puppet shows in the absence of political institutions. One puppet prime minister celebrated the arrival of Taliban state in Afghanistan. His own out-of-wedlock daughter happens to be residing in London with an access to the best schools in the world. The question ought to be: how Muslims managed to wreck an already wrecked Muslim ghetto of the 19th century then horrified both Hindus and English? Muslims have yet to learn how to be horrified while staring at themselves in the mirror. In a Pakistan army-run failed and bankrupt state.

    • @vasukinagabhushan
      @vasukinagabhushan Před rokem

      Negative Identity of Pakistanis
      I am Not Hindu
      I am Not Sikh
      I am Not Shia
      I am Not Ahmadi
      I am Not Indian
      I am Not Punjabi
      I am Not Sindhi
      I am Not Balochi
      I am Not Pashtun
      I am Not Ajlafi
      I am Not Mujahir
      Please stop the drama that you are aulads of Turks or Arabs.
      Pakistanis are also Hindustanis.
      🙏🏽🇮🇳🇵🇰🙏🏽

  • @dipakggupta5933
    @dipakggupta5933 Před rokem +15

    😂😂😂 total entertainment

    • @vasukinagabhushan
      @vasukinagabhushan Před rokem

      Negative Identity of Pakistanis
      I am Not Hindu
      I am Not Sikh
      I am Not Shia
      I am Not Ahmadi
      I am Not Indian
      I am Not Punjabi
      I am Not Sindhi
      I am Not Balochi
      I am Not Pashtun
      I am Not Ajlafi
      I am Not Mujahir
      Please stop the drama that you are aulads of Turks or Arabs.
      Pakistanis are also Hindustanis.
      🙏🏽🇮🇳🇵🇰🙏🏽

  • @PS-ej2xn
    @PS-ej2xn Před rokem +14

    Is khalistan now going to be in Lahore?

    • @goodvibes6715
      @goodvibes6715 Před rokem +4

      in Rawalpindi

    • @sayedzaidi9310
      @sayedzaidi9310 Před rokem

      Khalistan will be on East Punjab(Indian Punjab)& harriana this is where most Seikh communities are Pakistani Seikh will remain in Pakistan it's there country to.

    • @shatnermohanty6678
      @shatnermohanty6678 Před rokem

      @@sayedzaidi9310 most of Sikh Religious shrines are in pakistan Punjab like Nankana Sahib where Sri Guru Nanak ji was born .
      Lahore was capital of Sikh Empire.
      A country formed of Sikh Religion will include all of these places.

  • @mujhebhikuchkehnahai9038

    ID OF A PAKISTANI IS "I AM NOT A INDIAN".

    • @vasukinagabhushan
      @vasukinagabhushan Před rokem

      Negative Identity of Pakistanis
      I am Not Hindu
      I am Not Sikh
      I am Not Shia
      I am Not Ahmadi
      I am Not Indian
      I am Not Punjabi
      I am Not Sindhi
      I am Not Balochi
      I am Not Pashtun
      I am Not Ajlafi
      I am Not Mujahir
      Please stop the drama that you are aulads of Turks or Arabs.
      Pakistanis are also Hindustanis.
      🙏🏽🇮🇳🇵🇰🙏🏽

  • @sandeepsandy3810
    @sandeepsandy3810 Před rokem +7

    bro we have a prime minister manmohan singh for sikh community who served 10 years and our army chef is muslim our prsident is muslim can you tell me one non muslim who became prime minister or president or army chief of pakistan tumhra to constution dicrimation krta h ke koe non muslim prime minster nhi ban skta and yes we also have problems in india we are not perfect and last what sikh brother said yes there is no comparison between pakistan and india😘

  • @UmeshGupta-sh7nj
    @UmeshGupta-sh7nj Před rokem +5

    West Pakistan had 23% minority. Please check the census of 1941.

  • @RahulMishra-ld2bo
    @RahulMishra-ld2bo Před rokem +7

    POK is a disputed territory.

  • @vasukinagabhushan
    @vasukinagabhushan Před rokem +3

    Negative Identity of Pakistanis
    I am Not Hindu
    I am Not Sikh
    I am Not Shia
    I am Not Ahmadi
    I am Not Indian
    I am Not Punjabi
    I am Not Sindhi
    I am Not Balochi
    I am Not Pashtun
    I am Not Ajlafi
    I am Not Mujahir
    Please stop the drama that you are aulads of Turks or Arabs.
    Pakistanis are also Hindustanis.
    🙏🏽🇮🇳🇵🇰🙏🏽

  • @loidforger6413
    @loidforger6413 Před rokem +6

    What a joke..... Pakitsan talking about minorities..

  • @rakeshbarman3486
    @rakeshbarman3486 Před rokem +2

    in India a sikh can be PM ,army generals btw which pakistani non Muslim can never become

  • @PS-ej2xn
    @PS-ej2xn Před rokem +3

    Pakistanis are undoubtedly Allah's favourites. To which other people did the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficient , and Most Just Allah assign the task of building the modern Fort of Islam against the tide of proud kuffar? To whom did He grant nuclear weapons and the leadership of His beloved Ummah? Only to Pakistan - the unchallenged Riyast-e-Medina of our times.

    • @yjkbuddy
      @yjkbuddy Před rokem +1

      Do u want wheat bro??

  • @dauddanial3835
    @dauddanial3835 Před rokem +1

    In the history of Pakistan two events contributed immensely that specially design all these identity and ethnic problems, nationalization of institutions by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and their use for political gains and Zia ul Haq's fanatic approach and its a complete chapter that need to be discussed in detail. These events drastically effect the curriculum and personal relations between individuals and society as whole.

  • @Scoutyarmy_1
    @Scoutyarmy_1 Před rokem +1

    Very entertaining session, however, didn't learn much as it was obvious. Mr. Arora was talking the truth when he said to change the school curriculum. 23% nonmuslim people out of which 20% are in the East and the remaining 3% in the West. I would ask where did the individual get this data from.

  • @msg656
    @msg656 Před rokem +1

    You reap what you sow. We have done great injustice to our ourselves by continuous falsehood.

  • @vasukinagabhushan
    @vasukinagabhushan Před rokem +1

    I don't know why this Sikh still lives in Pakistan?

  • @vasukinagabhushan
    @vasukinagabhushan Před rokem

    Why Pakistani Women are encouraged to wear Arabic, Iranian and Malaysian Dress? The suppression of women is shameful.

  • @vasukinagabhushan
    @vasukinagabhushan Před rokem

    The only Hindu Minister was kicked out of Pakistan.

  • @zahurmalik9447
    @zahurmalik9447 Před rokem +1

    ھمارا مسئلہ ذھن سازی بذریعہ تعلیم کی کمی ھے جس میں مذھب، کلچر، زبان وغیرہ کو مدنظر رکھتے ھوئے مکمل پاکستانی ذھن سازی کی ضرورت ھے۔
    دوسرا مسئلہ قانون کی حکمرانی ھے۔ انصاف ھوگا تو مسائل ختم ھو جائیں گے جس مثالی سزائیں رنگ و نسل بڑھ کر ملنا ضروری ھے

  • @deanjackson2102
    @deanjackson2102 Před 11 měsíci

    people want to put you in a box = but it is very possible to have multiple identities

  • @javeediqbal190
    @javeediqbal190 Před rokem

    "اپ نہیں ہم " excellent

  • @ibratnak
    @ibratnak Před rokem +1

    Mr. Arora cited BJP's fake news when he said Pakistan's minorities decreased from 21% to 3%. There's a very good article by an Indian author on this propaganda. Briefly, these are pre-Bangladesh numbers. Pakistanis have a uncontrollable urge for self-deprecation, and Mr. Arora exhibited his Pakistaniat by doing the same.

  • @swaroopkunduru8557
    @swaroopkunduru8557 Před rokem +1

    Pakistan is not alone in this discussion!! Iran, Lebnon and many countries are in same line.

  • @Noname-ep2lz
    @Noname-ep2lz Před rokem

    Kuch bi bakwas kiye jaa rahe the india me sikh ko 10yrs prime minister banaya aur idhar selfie me previlage 😂

  • @amanrai856
    @amanrai856 Před rokem

    Lums k debate ka ye haal h to normal University ka kya haal hoga

    • @Noname-ep2lz
      @Noname-ep2lz Před rokem

      Bhai ye lums hai 😂 hamare to slums bi issue Accha hai. Aur ye sikh selfie ko previlage samaj raha hai india me 10 yrs prime minister ko to kya Hu samjhega

  • @rafeeq_sultana
    @rafeeq_sultana Před rokem

    LUMS is a premier institute, why are speeches made in Urdu? Even students are asking questions in Urdu, what a shame

  • @geeksatish8010
    @geeksatish8010 Před rokem

    Are yar ye audience kitani superficial sawal karati hai inko ye pata nahi hai indian subcontinent ke log hamesha se hi racial log hai minorities ko hamesha suppress karata hai