Hit or Miss? The New 2023 Honda Talon 1000R Takes Direct Aim At Polaris And Can-Am!
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Kase brings you all the details on the 2023 Honda Talon 1000R, full ride review coming soon!
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Lots of great features on this, and no doubt reliability will be second to none. Price and peak performance/insane factor is usually where Honda faulters though.
Needs bigger tires
The best riding side by side with plenty of power. You don’t need 200hp on a sxs. I drove one of these near gatlinburg and it was a beast.
It's definitely not the best riding, nor is it a beast. Give it about 200 miles, the gas leaks out of the rear shocks, paint will peel, you will find missing and or loose hardware. It rattles. You are right that is has plenty of power.
@@raywebb7295 coming from polaris, this thing is amazing. No belts to worry about neither. Why would the paint peal? Where are you getting this from?
@kiddt1999 cause I was washing it with a garden hose and paint peeled off. It was 1 month old, 125 miles. At 200 miles or so, the shock starts banging. I'm informed that this is due to the nitrogen leaking out and they all do it, so now it either get them refilled and leak again or get the shrader valves put in so they don't leak.
@@raywebb7295 that is crazy, never heard about that. Warranty should cover all of that right?
@kiddt1999 I almost forgot how terrible the Tallon is at climbing sand hills. The I-4WD uses a wheel speed sensor to detect wheel slip. While in I-4WD climbing a sand hill, the 4WD sends power from the left to the right tire rapidly back and forth, which causes chatter. It might be fine, but it sounds a feels bad.
I just bought a 2023 and its awesome. My rzr felt cheap and trashy compared to the talon.
On paper the talon looks like its slow but it is not. My buddy who owns a can am x3 was surprised when i was able to keep on the trails.
Man when this said a direct hit at Polaris and Can-Am I was thinking heck yeah. 225-250 HP. What a let down. It’s been 5 years already and Honda still hasn’t added any power.
When they offer a factory turbo, and improve the rear suspension geometry they will be closer to taking aim. For now, they are an also-ran.
The unfortunate truth…. Doing pretty decent though for being brand new machines. Polaris and can am have been honing their machines for years. The talon is decent for what it is. But being Honda, they won’t come close to a RZR or an x3. Or even a KRX for that matter
Still has i-2wd which stands for if you hit real mud it throws itself into two-wheel drive they need to make a real four-wheel drive version..
"Stadium seating" 😂 though one would have to be height "Challenged" as an ex use to say. Who'd always point out he WAS 5'7 AND A HALF ... 😂I'm 6'2 - I'm not fitting in the luggage compartment
Amazing mew UTV! I got to drive it today and it was so much fun!
Honda needs to hire a fab shop that builds baja 1000 cars to design something that will actually compete with or surpass Polaris and Can-Am R models.
This is just not enough…
Kase yay good job champ. Love you bud
What kind of lower doors are those?
I prefer the non sporty models.
Comfort and utility is where Im at.
Sort of neat. However, IF I were to want a side by side, I would choose the 2doors for better break over #'s. Considering my style is more technical/crawl than going flat out. Geeza over $25K yikes! Might want to consider a cheap jeep for that price. lol Lot more comfort to it and legalized road use too.
Yeah everyone uses the “might as well buy a jeep” card but to handle high speed terrain and whoops like the talon can you’d have to dish out a lot more than $25k into a jeep.
@@chapekfabrication2975truth
If you think any jeep for 25k can do what this can do stock you're smoking crack bro 😂 this isn't a rock crawler.
Hows the suspension vs a pro xp 4? I have a talon x and it rides rough at the dunes.
Suspension takes a while to break in, if you really can’t stand it though, the suspension is self-adjustable if you want a softer/rougher ride at a moments notice
can we tow whit talon
I always figured I would want one of these if I ever rode in one. I finally got a chance to ride in one and I absolutely don't want one. Just didn't care for it at all.
Weird
A four wheeler worth with same power is always wayyyyyyy better and more fun I agree with you 110%
Needs more power
$26,000.00!!🤣
Honestly it depends what youre after. The Polaris at similar price point will be more balls to the wall. But the Honda has a proper transmission and reliability king.
Curious to see Chase's full driving review and if he comments/compares to the competition
My X3 Maverick XRC had a list of way more...
@@richfarfugnuven6308 well no shit lol, that’s kind of like pointing out a 911 GT3 costs more than a base Carrera, or just a humble brag letting strangers know 🤷♂️
@@richfarfugnuven6308you’re comparing a Toyota Corolla to a Lamborghini. What do you expect lol
@@nalley6815 I only paid 26,500 for a brand new X3 Maverick XRC as a dealer in Iowa couldn’t sell it, at everyone there wants the mud edition of SxS’s…
I will ditch the Outlander Max 1000R the moment Honda makes an equivalent. Here, I thought Honda didn't make 2-ups simply because they don't make big displacement products...
Talon 1000 has been around for almost 5 years now
@@andrewsbbq Right? So what's Honda's excuse for not getting into the big displacement game against Can-Am, Polaris, and -gasp- C-Force!?
@@channelnamehere4065 sorry what do you mean? They have been in large displacement segment for almost 5 years. Or are you referring to the 4 seater class? Or turbo engines?
Generally Honda plays it safe and reliable. And that's also why they have 30 year old quads that are still going strong with minimal maintenance done.
@@andrewsbbq Yes, I'm referring to their steer class. I wish they'd make a 2-Up. Honda reliability is well-known, hence, the wish list.
@@channelnamehere4065 oh an ATV. Yea they should but I don't think this parallel twin would fit in an atv frame, even a longer 2up frame. What they also need is an updated Rincon 650/700 for the mid-bore class
very nice 🔥🔥👍💙
No driving?
Needs a turbo for 200HP to be competitive with Can Am and Polaris...
Already competitive with them but cheaper.. and probably more reliable long term because it’s a Honda built machine.. watch videos
Yeah, and won’t last 1/8 of the time for cheaper, no thanks Polaris and damm sure not can am I would never spend a dime on that pos
Talons by far the best model out for side by side at the moment. Belts are guaranteed to go out and the shrapnel gets into the clutches. Honda models hit 10k with minor problems like cv axles and tie rods as any would have that problem. But you won't be dumping money into the Honda like the other brands. They all have about the same speeds and specs. So even with the extra hp coming from other models your not getting anything out of it. The Honda has 105 HP at 1400 pounds. Great power to weight ratio especially being naturally aspirated
Can am and Polaris don’t sell anything besides a 200hp sxs?
That would be news to me that they removed all of their sxs’s besides the 2 most expensive.
Only a paste eating idiot would compare a talon to a turbo RZR, pro r and x3
@@Bigbossman12624 mmmmmm, paste...
They need to use the VFR 800 and 1200 engines in these bad boys and a good old fashioned sequential gear box! Until they do that I will not buy one!
Ya got any clean ones WE CAN Actually look at ___ >>>>. 😜😂🤷♂
Whistle while you work?
I do, almost all day. Co-workers hate me lol
Honda still can’t figure it out😂sad.
It keeps up with a RZR and it’s a better built motor.. idk what u mean
Honda is to tame they lost their roots of rip wheeling 3 wheelers with the 250R and the 350x! more power from Honda to be legit.
Nothing about this is taking aim at either of them. It's very distant 3rd at best. I laughed at the hp rating.
105 hp no good!!
Shocks leaking nitrogen, paint peeling, missing and or loose hardware, smallest tires in its segment, terrible air filter design. They only thing the Honda Talon takes aim at is your wallet if you didn't get the extended warranty. The days of the old reliable Honda 300 Fourtrax are over.
I almost bought a talon. If they had one at the dealer it would’ve been sitting at my farm. Glad I didn’t. I got an x3 and I’m beyond thrilled
@nalley6815 Did you see the vidoes Cleetus posted on the new Mavrick R. It's pretty sweet. 7 speed dual clutch, 240HP, it's sweet. I think soon everyone will have a dual clutch and then Honda will be once again be "behind the times" like usually.
@@raywebb7295 yeah it’s pretty wild. It’s pretty heavy so the x3 will most likely pull on it until the x3 hits governor. But the crazy part is the 54mm turbo and dual injectors. 54mm turbo is similar to what came on a 2nd gen Cummins 😂😂 huge on a tiny 3 cylinder. That thing with a tune only is gonna eat everything alive
Honda is still so far behind Polaris and Can am
Those are built like trash.
As far as sport side by sides go, this is a base model non turbo Polaris or Can-Am with active suspension aimed at people who value "Honda quality". At a premium price. It's a really good trail machine most people will spend a lot of money upgrading only to get smoked on the regular by their buddies with turbo competitors, and probably carry the tools to fix them when they break.
Honda does not have, and probably won't have, a competitive turbo side by side. Hopelessly conservative. The company that created the legendary Elsinore's that changed motocross forever is a shadow of it's former self.
For that kind of money just get a nice used Jeep and take your time getting to the camp spot unless you still have that young person "need for speed".
@@zonacrsthe funny part is the base X3 is almost the same price of this Corolla of the SxS world. And the fact that Honda can’t even get any machines in. Not 4 wheelers, not talons, hardly nothing. I was told there was 1, ONE coming in next month. Went over to my local Polaris/Can Am dealer with their lot full of Rzr’s and x3’s. Went home a happy feller
The design on all of these side by each's are shitty. Way too long of wheel base, too small of tires for the wheel base, under powered, top heavy, and shit for clearance especially along the rockers. The hull needs to be V shaped for optimal performance. Not too sure when engineers are going to grasp this and other very simple concepts...
Underpowered? Wtf are you talking about? You’re telling me 200hp isn’t enough for you? Or are you saying the Honda is underpowered? But all of what you’re saying is fixable with aftermarket parts. No one rides around on these things stock
@@nalley6815 They're JUNK!
@@spectrumofreality no idea what you’re talking about. Not sure you have any idea either
@@nalley6815 Well maybe you shouldn't be chirping when you don't know this and you're unsure of that. SIDE BY EACHES ARE JUNK! They are under powered, have shitty clearances, too much money for what you get, shitty cv transmissions and I could go on and on. Depending on what you are looking for there are far better options out there that will suit your wants and needs vs buying one of these hunks of shit.