Jagdkommandos - Austria-Hungary’s Special Forces in WW1 I THE GREAT WAR Special
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- The Jagdkommandos were Austria-Hungary’s special assault troops during WWI. From their pre-war origins, these troops had to adapt to modern war, and did so with some success. However, towards the end of the war their successes turned to failures and the Jagdkommandos faded into relative obscurity compared to their German and Italian counterparts.
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The Austro-Hungarian empire is one of the most interesting to me. They had very unique and ingenious weaponry but their military was a jumbled mess. I love these specials, especially about special groups of soldiers or tactics or equipment used by them and, like I said, AH is one of the more interesting to me. I'd love to collect some AH military surplus.
For me the key and interesting thing is how the political infighting between intransigent Budapest and Vienna led to the weakening of the Habsburg army. Despite having a larger population than France, AH mobilised less men than the French in 1914. Budapest and its notions of increased autonomy had a lot to answer for the debacle of 1914-18.
TwentythreePER Their helmets are awesome.
I have some but won't sell 😁
minotauruskt I've only got a repro for airsoft. It's nice though.
Well, the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy was a really colorful place in connection with national and religious minorities. It might have been the cause of mess as these politics were not really well-managed, unfortunately.
My great-grandfather fought as a lance corporal in an infantry unit, in Italy. He had a medal of bravery which was kind of like the iron cross in the German Army.
The Austrian Jagdkommando still exists today.. the Jagdkommando is like the special forces in the Austrian military
Oh should have watched till the end before commenting
Finally, Austria-Hungary’s special forces
Borojevic seems like one of the better generals of the war.
We agree.
but he didn't have much recognition.
And if the Germans at that time used gases on the North-Western Front, then the Austrians also used a terrible novelty - explosive bullets "dum-dum", inflicting huge lacerations, almost certainly fatal or crippling a person. Russian soldiers considered this method of war dishonest and fought with it in their own way - they did not take prisoners from whom they found clips with dum-dum bullets in their pouches, and killed them in their place. Austria-Hungary was outraged and declared that for each such killed, two Russian prisoners would be shot. To which Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolayevich reacted and made an unequivocal statement in reply - they say, if Vienna only dares to take such a step, then for every Russian killed in Austrian captivity, Russia will hang four prisoners of Austria-Hungary. And he eloquently explained: "We have enough prisoners for this." And the use of explosive bullets was largely eliminated - the soldiers of Austria-Hungary were simply afraid to carry them with them and threw them away at the first opportunity.
@@user-sl1yp7jd6wdum dum rounds aren’t “explosive” ammunition it’s just a bullet with the metal jacket removed from the tip and upper part of the bullet so that the soft lead is exposed and expands and mushrooms on impact creating a larger wound channel and putting more force and energy from the round into the target instead of going straight through someone like a fully metal jacketed bullet would it’s the same thing as a modern jacketed soft point used in hunting and self defense
@@bcb5696 Such a bullet shattered into pieces, inflicting serious wounds. Or a cripple from multiple damage to internal organs, or death from blood loss. By the way, for the same reason, the soldiers of the warring countries got rid of knives with teeth like a saw. In addition, flamethrowers and shotgun users, whose weapons inflicted very severe wounds, had little chance of surviving captivity. Many farmers in France had shotguns against hares that ruined grapes, were taken "hostage" by the Germans and executed just for possession of such weapons. And snipers were considered scoundrels.
A funny episode took place in the Russian imperial army. When the Germans were using rifles with a telescopic sight with might and main, one Siberian well-aimed shooter-hunter was punished for purposefully shooting enemy officers. "Not noble!" Although he had an ordinary rifle without optics.
Borojevic,brilliant Croatian commander,my great- grandfather fought under his command as a Jagdcommando,lot of Croatians did.Thank you for this wonderful insight Mr Indy,cheers!
My great-grandfather was one too thats actually really cool
Austria-Hungary had Jagdkommandos. Indy has Commentkommandos
Oky i dont get it why some people dislike these videos... indi is a nice guy, the videos are well made and interesting
If you dont like the topic you dont have to watch them!
flo low I agree. This has to be about the worst set of comments I have ever seen.
Indy is bae.
Name anything under the sun and you will find people who don't like it, if for no other reason than to be a contrarian.
Heck, there are people who actually don't like pineapple on pizza. In fact, they despise it and say crazy things like "pineapple doesn't belong on pizza"
Always admired the Austro-Hungarians during the Great Wars. Will you look into the Gebirgsjäger soon?
IMO they always get a rough deal and are regularly mocked. Certainly they were slipshod, inefficient and often a mess but the durability of the ordinary Habsburg soldier despite so many disadvantages and set-backs is truly admirable.
Well, we made a general episode about mountain warfare, not sure we will go into Gebirgsjäger separately.
Yes I too find something very attractive about the A-H army in WW1! (In fact all their elite units are a blast-the Bosnian units,the Tiroler Kaiserjaeger,& Landdeschuetzen,&c.,& it's nice to compare & contrast the German .Austro-Hungarian,& Italian "specialist" assault units. They say the Brits didn't have them but we did have the Canadians,Australians,& New Zealanders so......
Soldiers were doing what they could but in the end, it all fell to A-H's inability to modernize their thinking. Like problems with command, generals stuck in the past but still being generals because of their high noble status, fail to address increasing tensions between different nations, lack of some resources, and huge differences between regions' industrialization levels.
But you are right, the soldier often fought very bravely and well, my great-grandfather fought on an Italian front and was injured there I think. And I think the level of disloyalty among A-H troops is often needlessly overestimated in people's minds, I think in most cases they fought bravely, and only after capture did some of them consider fighting for their nation as exile freedom fighters.
Amy was not the real problem. The problem was inefficient government and bureaucracy which led to the army ineffectives.
Austria Hungary is so interesting they are like a feudal kingdom fighting with Napoleonic tactics in the modern world, so contradictory and so awesome
Yes, the one anomaly in a war between nation states.
imho this wasnt awesome. they had dumb leaders and dumb commanders with reactionary thinking. the individual soldier does a great job.
being stupid isnt awesome in any way.
These are the reasons why it was the weakest army in europe, or shall I say: in the world
@@et4069 not really
@@hanz2904 please watch some documentaris about Austria-Hungary in WW1 and then come back and change your mind, thx
I find the Italian Front very interesting and have learned a lot about it from this channel. Indy really is a gifted narrator.
But what about the droid attack on the Wookies?
That was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away... so it wasn't modern warfare.
Flakfire oh hey man
Flakfire ah hhaaaa haha funny.
Its not a story The Great War would tell you.
Hello there
"Willpower and courage is enough to overcome macineguns and artillery"
Doesn't matter how brave your men are though, corpses don't march.
Right, the bullets and artillery rounds are stupid, they have no clue how brave the soldiers are.
5:47 car whit cloaking device!! :O
It was a time travelers car .. They where heading back to their own time through an invisible portal..
As long as it don become corrupted by chaos ! ;O
aparently you dont need a fluxcapasetor and travel at 141 KMH anymore! ;O
Yes Magnus science advances all the time :D
then its magic or timetravel!
YES!!! I've been waiting for a good video on the Jagdkommando forever! Cheers guys, thanks for the good work.
I allways love the episodes that Indy ends with "This is modern war" It just five me such a Thrill
Love the new scenery, really enhances the storytelling and lets us know what kind of Environment these troops were meant to fight in.
This might be a bit much.... but you guys should totally recreate a trench and walk us through it.
Love the show, thanks for the meaningful content. @TheGreatWar
Another Great War Special guys. I'm just amazed how armies changed their tactics and training as the war progresses. I also see it as younger officers move up the chain of command the old guard way of fighting and training slowly moving aside. These soldiers are becoming our modern day Green Berets and NAVY Seals. Training in mountain , snow, hand to hand warfare. Now we just underwater units.
♫Radetzky March♫ intensifies ;-)
Great episode. I knew very little about this subject.
Radetzky...
Remember italian RISORGIMENTO...
excellent episode!!! had only encountered 1 or 2 line references about them in the past.
Important question: Was there a Hötzenkommando division of special forces expert in Hötzendorfing?
Man I love this channel I hope it never stops
AMAZING information! Thanks Andy!
A salute from Brazil!
Christian Ortner really is a great author. His series of books dealing with the Austro-Hungarian military (co-authored) are required reading for anyone with an interest in AH.
Can we please get a bio special on Admiral Kolchack? Would be a very interesting episode :)
Last time I was this early was.......... last frickin week.
Gaslight Studios oooooo
Muckan ?
Great episode!
If anyone else can't get enough of Indy, check out his other channel, TimeGhost, where he is currently covering the Cuban missile crisis in real time!
You weren´t by chance in austria filming this video, because of the beautiful mountains in the background?
5:46 Ghost car 0_0
For 'Out of the trenches'. Will you do a WW2 walkthrough like you are currently doing with WW1? That would be absolutely fantastic! :D
www.reddit.com/r/TheGreatWarChannel/comments/4ksvy2/will_you_guys_ever_do_a_ww2_channel_our_official/
Will we get another special episode of “Evolution of the ____ infantry during World War I” anytime soon?
working on it.
Excellent series 👍
Light Austrian Jägers existed already in Napoleonic times. Would be interesting if they talked about the difference to Jagdkommandos
5:45 Darn you, Indy, now I have to finish my drink!
The background goes with the subject matter Perfectly.
(hmm, like #2000, I wonder if that's significant) :>o
Another great episode!! Quick question: were the Jagdkommandos part of the 39th Honved Division? Know you guys mentioned they had used similar shock tactics during the Kingdom of Hungary Special. Will we hear more about the 39th?
Great video
Some of the best Austro-hungarian fighters were from Styrian region of Slovenia. Coming the end of ww1, they even invaded Austria (insurgency)
Did you do a piece on Svetozar Boroević? He is one of my favorites of the war.
h lynn keith yes they have a special on him
Hi Indy and crew.
I have been following your channel for a while now. Actually, after I bought Battlefield 1, I wanted to learn more about the "great" war. I am from Norway, in my understanding we were helping the Allies during the war. Can you please inlight me from the chair of Wisdom on what we did? I can't find much information. I know that we had a few weapons on trial.
(I just wonder, is the chair of wisdom as comfy as it looks?)
Mats Gustavsen.
Thank you.
I have a question for an out of the trenches: What were German plans for France, Belgium, Great Britain? Also what did the Treaty of Brest-Livostk (I am very sure I spelled that wrong) look like in detail, what new countries were created, and what lands were annexed? Sometimes I hear that Germany annexes Lithuania, other times I hear that it's independent, sometimes I hear that Germany gets a new client state in the Ukraine, other times it's a buffer for Austria-Hungary. Thank you so much!!! I love your channel and I thank you and your team for creating it!
all in due time (late next year)
Great! Thank you for answering the question so quickly!
Are you going to make a video about the Assyrians in the first world war?
Great show btw
We might.
Please do a video on Admiral Miklos Horthy!
55,000 views within 24 hours! Congratulations to the Great War team.
Did the allies have their own version of storm-troops? If so could you make a video on them?
Canadians.
Hey, Indie
Could you guys do a special or out of the trenches on the British West Indies Regiment(BWIR). My family in Guyana recently told me they had 2 Long Lees and a water canteen with the BWIR symbol. I know very minimal about BWIR and would like to know more.
Kept up the great work!
Respect modern Jagdkommandos🇦🇹
hey guys, thanks for the great show. i was wondering what your favorite works of fiction about ww1 are. cheers, b
In WW1 my grandfather served as a officer in the „Kaiserjäger“ battalion.
But what about the Ottoman Stormtroopers (Yıldırım Army group) and Flamethrowers I know you talked about them shortly on the ottoman uniforms episode
cemo1999 Actually, that'll be interesting since many of us don't think the Ottomans have Stormtroop or Flamethrowers.
Very interesting
Ottoman Stormtroopers was called Hücum Müfrezeleri (Storm Platoons), Yıldırım Army Group was a Strategic unit hence "army".
You can see their uniform in this picture from Palestine front, and yes it is same with the Jagdkommando. Steel helmet, hand grenade bag under arm etc. all same.
www.google.com.tr/search?q=ottoman+stormtroopers&rlz=1C1GCEA_enTR754TR754&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=L-JqkjJUfaQLgM%253A%252CoGhojme4KO2GsM%252C_&usg=__AYWP5V26Joq6npg0WuHTokwV9_I%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjdwdmzuNPXAhUBUlAKHXLyDC4Q9QEINzAB#imgrc=L-JqkjJUfaQLgM:
I wish indy could share the story of corporal seyit (not many know how heroic he is sadly)
Flamethrowers...around 2 or so and they hated them because they were so hot
2:03 Great idea
More Outtakes please! •.•
Great video! I have a question, if it can be answered. Do you know what was the combat role of sappers on the eastern front of WW1? I am asking because my great grandfather was a sapper in the Polish legions and during the Polish Soviet war. I know he blew up bridges, but I was wondering about other duties. Were sappers obstacle clearing troops or assault troops, that would be the first to make contact with the enemy? Unfortunately, the only information I can find on ww1 sappers is about the western front, but you guys know a lot about the eastern front for a positive change.
As you know, the role of a sapper in the eastern front might be very different than those in the western front, considering that the eastern front was extremely mobile and fast paced and not as based on trench warefare.
I just watched your episode that talked about the calm sects of the western front. Did this become far more widespread during the Christmas Truce in 1914 I think it happened?
Seeing how much boroevic achieved, I am seriously wondering why he is so forgotten.
Watch our Borojevic episode. It talks a bit about that.
The Jagdkommando still exists today
@ 4:30 is the tiniest field gun I've ever seen...what is it?
Can you make a video about King Vittorio Emanuele III or Emanuele Filiberto Duke of Aosta?
More thinking of an episode about Diaz.
Are you going to do specials on other nations elite soldiers. I would like to see one for Britain, France or any other nations who you have not covered. Great show 👍
If we find pictures and sources, yes
Ok thanks 😊
I wish you guys would tell us things like notable jagkommandos and which part of the Empire they mostly came from.
Question for OotT: What were the actual goals and victory conditions of the various countries at this point? Its been so long I forgot. I.e: if Germany takes Paris the war is over, etc...
You claimed that Russia invented these units but in reality they are much, much older. In the Napoleonic era these units were already common and were called Chasseurs or Jäger back then. Long time before that such units were known as skirmishers.
Rommel was one of this leaders against the Italians as Leutnant Rommel, he gaint for one of theese comando raids the "Pour les Merits" and later he wrote a standard work book "Infanterie greift an" which still is standard in many ways today
Could you please talk about the role of Hong Kong and Singapore played in the war in your next "Beyond the Trenches"?
Will you do videos on ww2 when the centenarie occurs
Do you have notes of all your video's or how do you know everything what you say to us
Just as Indy said, that this could be called "modern war", a modern car appeared in the background. Just a funny coincidence, or rather a subtle analogy of the ever present losses, not on a battlefield, but our own streets? How come we look back at the war as a tragedy, but never at cars the same way? Because it is just means of transportation that contains a price we must be willing to pay? War is just means of expanding Lebensraum, it also contains a price, that we have learned is not worth it! Where is the line you shall (Magi-)not pass?
Those are the questions, posed by one sentence and a few frames of background, truly an amazing piece of critical art, by an even more amazing team of artists!
By the way, I have a drivers license. Double standarts are on me tonight!
Can you please make a video about the fieldrailways in the first ww. I somwhere heard that those railways helped by the german, french and british warfare. Those railways are tiny so i heard the where used on frontlines. Is that true? Maby in germany it called "Heeresfeldbahn" or something like this. Thank you very much :D
And sorry for my bad english...
Watching this in 1919. Still waiting for the highly anticipated Entente offensive.
Yes! "THIS is modern war" makes a return!!!
impressive 3:38 jiujitsu in Austria..
can you do a video about bosniak troops as well??? they were the best of the best in A-U army!
4:30 That is the cutest little trench mortar.
Can you make a special on the Russian commandos you mentioned on the beginning?
Could you do a video about Australian stealth raiders on the western front?
Big Lez *Wadiyatalkinabeet ya fucken druggo?*
Was Arnold the Terminator one of them?
Take care
2:05 Just look at his smirk... mocking me
Hi, excellent work as always guys!. I saw this (www.classicfm.com/artists/steven-isserlis/trench-cello-first-world-war/) and caught my attention for you guys. Do you have plans to talk about music in the trenches (or probably out of them as well)? since I think it is a big part of the everyday life that we take for granted and it was probably a luxury around those days.
Keep the excellent work!
Can u make one of erwin rommel? Huge fan always ending up her
>the 10th battle for the same goddamned river
Might be a dumb question, but I've often seen storm troops and other similar units such as the jadgkommandos wearing cloth sacks of some kind round their torsos and i was wondering what are they for?
(See 1:10 and 1:29 for reference)
They were for carrying handgranades
Svetozar Borojevic von Bojna = Obi Wan Kenobi ? Think about it. He used his high ground very well. :D :D :D
I'm here.
The Reptilian Wizard Lizard met to
The Reptilian Wizard Lizard gimme the zucc
Meh, so what.
Can you do a video on the Harlem hellfighters
Lizerd King they probably will next year once the US get involved properly
I’m just asking, did the British and their commonwealth nations have similar units?
I couldn't find anything on British Empire special forces during WW1. Prior the war, there were special forces in colonies, such as the Bushveldt Carbineers and
Lovat Scouts during the Boer war. The former being a mounted unit of mostly South Africans and Australians and the latter being a Scottish Highland regiment, who were the first to wear Ghilli Suits In the world. I imagine those suits would have been useful in the South African terrain. Then nothing comes up until WW2, with the Commandos.
I may have missed it but has there been a special on British/Commonwealth special forces? Were their any that performed a similar function of Jagkommandos or Sturmtruppen? if there isn't a special yet on British/Commonwealth special forces will there be one?
Aside from Canadians being used as shock troops all I can think of is the Royal Marines or perhaps one of the Indian regiments
There haven't been so far and we haven't found any sources about it. Thing is that everyone claims that the Canadians were used like Shock Troops but I also would like to have an analysis about that.
I think the claim that the Canadians were used as shock troops stems partly from the Game Verdun where they are portrayed as such. Afaik the Commonwealth Armies just put together Trench Raider groups on a need to basis instead of specially training units as such, though i might be wrong.
The claim of Canadians being shock troops is definitely in more than just the game Verdun. I originally heard that claim from my parents and grandparents so that claim has been around at least as long as the 1950s. I'll see if I can find some more reliable sources.
Is Indy left handed??? I notice he always motions with his left hand.
Well most of the Austrian army was "special forces" led by even more "special" commanders. How else did they lose the first invasion of Serbia?
Exter Don't forget they lost in the second invasion of Serbia also xD
Exter Also Austrian general Svetozar Boroevic von Bojna was a Serb by ethnicity but he was a nobleman(he had a title) of A-H so I guess that's why he fought for them...
Didnt the Serbs lose when they invaded Syrmia (Austria-Hungary) as well? Perhaps everyone's "special forces" were only human after all.
Michéal Ó hAodha it wasn't really an invasion it was more a counter offensive, and Serbia didn't want to do it but it's allies persuaded it to do it... Until the 2nd invasion by A-H that part of Serbian army was in Syrmia and than withdrew to help defend Serbia, so they didn't rly lose... And if you were talking about some battle, ofc Serbia lost battles like every other country, but it successfully defended itself against larger and better equipped A-H army and it did it 2 times(2 invasions)...
A counter-offensive which enters someone else's territory is still an invasion. They were hardly invited were they? :) And like Serbia, Austria lost battles but it successfully defended itself against larger and better equipped Russian Army too. The point I'm making is that the general opprobrium directed at AH is rather hypocritical as all sides made the same errors.
I suppose the Jagdkommandos weren't overseen by Hötzendorf too?
No they didn't let me😢
The problem is that Storm-troop formations drain the best men from the line units. Nice Job!
Wat happens to the empty shell we’re the used again? Or sold. In ww2 in Nijmegen were a lot bom left behind and shells and al lot people sold it when the war was over
So were the jagdkommandos ever an officially formed unit and if so when were they officially formed?
could you talk about the connacht rangers mutiny
Can yall do an episode on Bulgarian and Ottoman stormtroopers?
If we find pictures and sources, yes.
Did they used jagdkommando knives?
Anyone else think this may be the next squad available in the Tannenberg game?
Talk about the special forces of Austria & Hungary from Bosnia
Not even Conrad could mess up those guys.