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Funny quip. Are you not, 'intelligent'? "Conscious"? "Self-aware"? "Sentient"? Please note that humans, as well as some of the higher mammals (elephants and dolphins for example), are all of the above as well. Thus, why would we point our telescopes at Earth when we already know that intelligent life exists here? And of course, no reason to use a telescope to see what is right in front of you.
@@samr.england613 - Kidding aside we only have life on this planet to compare in order to determine 'intelligence'... assuming that our definition of 'intelligence' is even accurate. Given the history of our species I personally would not use humans as a control group.
@@alexhigginbotham8635 I hear you. My point was, that we're not just talking about humans, as elephants and dolphins are obviously not only sentient and intelligent, they are obviously conscious and self-aware. (Cats and dogs are, 'almost' there, but not on the level of elephants and dolphins.) The major difference between humans and all the other higher mammals in intelligence, is a difference of degree, not of kind. (Not to mention invertrebates like cuddlefish and octopuses.) Heck, even certain species of spiders.
@@alexhigginbotham8635 I agree. But life here, for now, is our only reference. And of course while it may seem on the surface to be an oxymoron, it takes intelligence to wage organized warfare, or 'military intelligence' (an oft-cited alleged oxymoron, like, 'Jumbo shrimp') to defend one's own from other intelligent humans with aggressive intent.
I’ve heard that Clarke quote for years and I go back & forth on it. Being alone in the universe would suck but then again, I’d also rather not be exterminated by a more advanced civilization.
I'm leaning towards #4. The math for possible habitable planets brings out staggering numbers (to me anyway). We have not even explored our closest neighboring planet properly yet much less our galaxy and not mentioning the universe, our knowledge on what is out there is not even a billionth of a percent, the cup of water and shark analogy. The other possibility is that we are in a sim and that update hasn't landed yet because we can't process it properly yet.
Actually the answer to the Fermi paradox is clear and simple, the universe is teaming with plenty life but they are separated by the shear space and time between them. This explains it.
Yes. Space/time may be the ultimate filter. It certainly seemed that way, until technology advanced to the point of nuclear fission, robotics & artificial general intelligence (if/when that happens). After those advancements, it appears time/space may no longer be an impenetrable barrier for humanity to explore the distant stars.
Please note that a few days ago there seemed to be microbes, maybe, in Mars. Which goes to show, that the Universe being so large, we probably would not find in our human lifetimes. Nobody can traverse the Universe faster than light.
It can't be a simulation because there has to be a starting point for knowledge to accumulate. It might appear to some that there's one ,but the evolution of the universe yields fractal symmetry in everything where things appear different to our macroscopic senses which filter reality. Which we can only estimate . But all matter ever more infinitely complex over evolution and time which is caused by entropy or heat loss in matter which causes time. All of it branches off from primordial beginnings and the simplicity of one thing where it all began. The void of empty space or nothing. That is what's eternal beyond time. Nothing always exists with no beginning and no ending. We are part of it . Always eternal. And infinitely eternal as energy. Energy or matter are the same . Matter derived from vaccum energy and transformed from infinite energy collapsing into infinite singularities where wind created and caused by the infinite space of nothing causes infinite energy or wind to swirl around in the void connected in infinite distances. That causes gravitation to collapse a portion of energy into a singularity that has limited capacity. A finite portion of energy fills the singularity heating and cooking the primordial energy under intense pressure and the singularity explodes thus transforming energy into matter where exponential combinations of elements form and mix in various amounts to create infinite complexity. There is no God. The universe defies precise description. The universe just is what it is and it just happens naturally with no thought of wrong or right except in some of the creatures that are created out of thin air that develop basic intelligence like countless species have here on this world . We are the aliens and therefore represent a known fraction of statistical proof that aliens do indeed exist within the infinite cosmos. This is not a simulation. All the coincidences tie into the interconnectedness of the universe and all that resides within it along with infinity and eternally. It all may seem seperate as our senses and filters of our senses are interconnected particles of matter and thus energy my dear Watson. But thusly macroscopic interpretations of reality bound by a sense of time as our essence and particles of matter are sensing entropy or the heat death of the matter because we are part of the process of the decay rate of matter! This matter is concentrated energy. Once formed ,matter or concentrated energy ,begins to expand and cool in matter and energy packets across the portion of the infinite universe where the big bang flung various concentrations of matter in different volumes of space. Time runs at different speeds based on gravitational strengths which affect the passage of time where time only exists where there is matter to decay and cool overall within the area of matter created in the explosion . The matter cools and expands in the infinite coolness of space and as it does this , it begins to lose cohesion and decay until ,it evaporates completely and returns to the void as nothing again and from where it all began! And the enormous power of truly infinite vaccum energy co exists always with the void as two seperate yet distinct things that cause a contradiction to exist within all things . Even though energy is derived from the empty void right out of thin air! We may seem seperated and distant but everything including all life that will ever exist in the universe ,on the quantum scale, is intertwined and parts of one single universe! There are and cannot be any other universes. Only one.
I think the vid is talking about intelligent, "technical" life. That is, life that is capable of building radio telescopes, spacecraft, and toasters. I have no doubt that, 'the stars' are teeming with life, but most of that life is most likely bacteria and microbes.
There is an intriguing theory suggesting that the reason we haven't found other civilizations is related to the universe's age, which is around 13 billion years. This theory posits that either the universe is still young, making us the first intelligent beings to emerge, or the universe is old, and we are among the last.
They're only likely to visit us if they're WITHIN our own Galaxy. Even then, it's unlikely, as any fellow tech civs are separated by the vastness of space AND time.
The argument that we are alone in the universe is so ego driven, one key point is our planet is teeming with life, not just human, so we are not alone already, as apes and dolphins are intelligent , oh and crows etc etc, So using that metric and extrapolating that not only is there billion x billions Earth type planet there is the possibility for those plants to have more than one intelligent life form, let only the staggering math for non intelligent life.
If I had to take my best shot at it, I think it's a combination of a few things. One, that simple life, while not common, is probably relatively common enough that's it's out there and around even in our own galaxy, but complex life, and furthermore intelligent life, is a much harder process to develop and is rare. And beyond intelligence, there is the ability to be technological. There could be intelligent humanoids (I propose intelligent life must take a similar form to humans in that they would need to be upright, bipedal, and land dwelling, but very likely not resemble us in more superficial ways) but they may not have some of the benefits we have. Like an abundance of water, a relatively calm yellow star, and crucially an abundance of fossil fuels that we have because this planet had dinosaurs and other large organic life to break down over millions of years and provide it. A readily available fuel source is a must to get technology off the ground. Or maybe some planets large, small brained creatures never got wiped out like ours did, and never evolved enough to reach any level of significant intelligence. The second and third reasons are tied together. Time and distance. If we are to assume the first scenario is true, that intelligence and technology is rare, then there would be very few examples and the distance between them would likely be vast outside of a complete fluke. The distance of time could be even greater. A million years is a drop in the bucket on a cosmological scale but huge for an intelligent species. It would be logical to assume most are only going to be around a few million years at best. A thousand light years is also nothing on the grand scale but unimaginable huge for us. A 2 million year old technological civilization could have existed until 300 years ago when they got wiped out and their last signal shot out into space, but they are 200 light years away and that last gasp of existence passed us by 100 years ago before we had the technology to detect it. They could be further away and we may some day detect it. Or they could be so far away we are gone before we can. There could have been thousands, millions that existed a billion years ago and we wouldn't know unless we could travel there and find ruins, but traveling any distance is probably not even possible unless we discover some yet undiscovered propulsion technology down the road...and then there is the problem of relatively and time dilation. So many factors would have to line up just perfect for us to discover another intelligent species that it is highly unlikely. That's my take anyways on the Fermi Paradox.
Your answer is ego driven. We do not know the probabilities of life forming. It is obviously hard for life to form else we could do it in a test tube; but how hard? So stick to science and don't let your ego rule your answers.
@@haroldnowak2042 Your reply was somewhat amusing as you claim my post was ego driven, when it was commentary on certain sections of humanity wanting to only except the we are alone concept which also goes with the denial of the alleged age of the universe. As for life forming is hard as you put it, is it? is it really, from observational science it would appear given a chance life will fill a niche, hence the old saying, "Nature abhors a vacuum", and yes in regards to life in space I used that quote on purpose. But my main point was about statistical probabilities even if life was hard, again your words with reference to the staggering number of planets able to support life just as we know it would be a very large number.
@@krulerwest-oz7364 Your reasoning seems to follow that because you are so wonderful, the universe has to have lots of things like you. That is pure ego. We may or may not be alone, just stick to scientific reasoning. Remember, when life started on Earth 4.2Billion years ago, Earth was NOT Earthlike, it had a toxic atmosphere and ocean. Life did not start on an Earthlike planet so it doesn't matter if there are billions of them in the universe.
You are not alone, look around you, You are finding new species of life everyday on Your planet cherish and nurture it and you will be surprised what you find.
Kardeshev scale is that a type 1 can ‘utilize’ all of the energy available on its planet. Not used up . Same for type 2 and 3. Getting turned off from a lot of informative channels lately. Seems they are utilizing Ai or bots
The universe is so big and so old the chances of 2 species arising to technology development at the same time in the same area of space are virtually nil.
That’s saying we are not alone, but it’s so difficult to find them, we may never know. Sort of like navigating your way out of an infinitely complex maze. But it doesn’t stop us from trying anyway….frustrating for humanity. Maybe we can one day send out self -replicating fossil hunting probes…just a thought.
We're so little and rare. It seems the configuration of our solar system is rather unusual, so the Fermi equation might need adjusting. But there's also the concept of life and intelligence: we only know "this". Great video. I'd just recommend lower the volume of the music. I loved the music, but at times it was louder than the narrator, and it's distracting if it takes over 🤭
I disagree that the 'configuration of our Solar System is unusual." G2 Class Yellow Dwarf stars like our Sun probably have comparable systems of planets orbiting them. Problem is, our current main methods of detecting exo systems, is best at detecting such systems orbiting red dwarfs, as G-class stars like the Sun are too bright to detect alien planets using the radial velocity or transit methods.
@@samr.england613 If you are interested in a different perspective, Anton Petrov discusses the paper titled "A framework for the architecture of exoplanetary systems. I. Four classes of planetary system architecture" published last year, in a video titled "Turns out, Solar System is the rearest system out there" It's a different theoretical framework, the star type alone is not sufficient. I only know I know nothing 🤭
I believe we are not alone although not experienced it yet but due to the way humanity as been behaving we want to assume we're alone so as to feel superior but the universe is vast as nasa as said and showed us it's so impossible to be the only ones In this universe
Who runs this channel must have some problems. A couple of videos ago, you said we will never get off our plant or Solar System, now you say we have to colonise the whole Univers. Can you decide already which will be?
They've seen from above, witnessed our fighting spirit in our movies and real wars; they just simply avoid.. our active imaginations help them realize the amount of knowledge we have,,,,,,, for violence. Watch movie-- the day the earth stood still.
We mean life forms with intelligence similar to humans. Scientists are still searching for evidence of such life in the universe, but so far, we haven't found any. Thanks for watching!
Intelligences, yes. Spacefaring? Who's to say. We've done some manned 'spacefaring' only to our Moon, so far. Lot's of talk about sending people to Mars, but, we'll see. Any other beings out there that have our capabilities or beyond, will be in the same boat we're in: $Cost, effort, tech level, logic, necessity, reason, etc. Why send an organism into utterly hostile space when a robot can do it?
Our solar system format is extremely rare (about 5% of all of them) and we have an unusually large moon. We also had several events where it was freak chance to survive, snowball earth, meteorite strikes at the right angle etc. A very, very unlikely chain of events to reproduce in just 14 billion years
Its not a paradox if there is no spacefaring intelligent life with interstellar capabilities. So far, the count of interstellar intelligent life forms remains at zero, including ourselves. This is just so much mental masturbation.
Alone or not? I don't find either answer, "terrifying". If we're not alone, we, and the other tech civs, are separated forever from each other by space and time. If we are truly, "alone", than that means we should cherish not only all life on this planet, including cockroaches, fleas, mosquitos (and other parasites), but cherish each other! And truly cherish life itself!
I don't understand either how something can come from nothing. But the physicists say it's because of quantum physics. Still... No wonder we believe, or came up with the concept, of God, the Ultimate Supreme Creator of All. (And God always existed.) Carl Sagan argued that, "why not save a step, and argue that the Universe always existed, in one form or another"? A strong argument, but I still believe in an Almighty God, the Alpha and the Omega, eternal and infinite.
@@priztucker That's why I quoted Sagan. "If we argue that God always existed, why not save a step and conclude that the Universe has always existed (in one form or another). But, Priz, I guess it's because most of us would like to believe that there's a reason for it all, and so, we conclude THE God Almighty, Creator of All. The Alpha and the Omega, Who always was, is, and ever will be. Of course, just because we believe it, doesn't make it true.
@samr.england613 well if the universe always existed cool, we know the earth and life is not! An eternal universe still doesn't answer the question of how earth came to be and life etc. I believe in the creator God
From a distance and in the context of the Milky Way Galaxy, anyway. But from the perspective of the entire Universe, the Milky Way is itself a 'fuzzy bluish-hazy dot'.
Wow… it was all good, until the very end…”we matter little”…my conclusion is the opposite… we may be the ONLY thing that is alive & matters, in the entire universe.
We are it right now. We live in a universe that the majority of all the stars in existence will ultimately last for trillions of years. That means this universe is still in its diapers. Come talk to me 2 or 3 hundred billion years from now. I'm betting things are much different.
Still debatable however if planets around a red dwarf can be habitable, due to tidal locking and solar flares. If it turns out they are not habitable, then it limits us to probably just G and K type stars, which is a pretty small percentage, and actually may be part of the explanation of "where is everyone".
@@100percentSNAFU once again we can not know the answers about M dwarfs and if they can support life as it is too soon. Things hundreds of billions of years from now may and will be very different. We know a lot and yet it boils down to a mere drop in the bucket. There is no way to say if planets around M Dwarfs will or will not be habitable in 2 or 3 hundred billion years. I do see your point yet your conclusions can not truly be known. Think about this until we could see them how long did large galaxies take to form. The experts were sure that more than a billion years needed to pass before well developed galaxies could exist. Now their opinions have changed. My point is not to start a fight. What I'm saying is this universe is in its diapers and we do not have all the answers. We have a lot of great questions and that is a good start.
@@100percentSNAFU And yet, if G-class yellow stars are just 7% of all stars in a typical spiral galaxy like "our" Milky Way Galaxy, that gives us anywhere from 14 Billion to 28 Billion Sun-like yellow dwarf stars, or some Yellows of higher magnitude and mass. (G1 thru G8 yellow stars.) Digital, I think it sucks that our present remote detection techniques and capabilities can only find "Earth-type" planets around red dwarfs.
@@samr.england613Agreed, there are some good candidates within just 100 light years or so that are G and K stars maybe we will find something around them when our searching technology improves. I think a couple more requirements to habitability would also include a Jupiter like planet positioned deeper in the system as Jupiter is for us as blocker of comets and things of that sort, and also age of the star obviously a big factor. One might wonder as well if there are already dead yellow stars that at one time in the extreme distant last hosted life around them? With a 5 billion or so year lifespan many could have already come and gone.
@@100percentSNAFU Of course, back in the early 2000s. Congress cancelled the Terrestrial Planet Finder, which, IIRC, designed to search for earthlike planets orbiting M, K, and G-class stars. There's our gov for you. As far as systems orbiting yellow dwarfs like our Sun go, I'd bet mule butts to navy beans that our system is typical and not an anomaly. While there are probably a diversity of arrangements orbiting Yellows, I'd bet ours is not rare. (Btw, I've read that Mercury could very well be the core remnant of a Jovian "roaster" that migrated too close to the Sun over 4 1/2 Billion years ago, and may have caused the gravitational purturbation that sent Rhea our way, colliding with Earth and forming Earth's moon. ) And I agree about the whole time and space thing, especially the time. After all, for over 4 Billion years after the first life emerged on Earth, no creature on this planet built a radio telescope until circa 1952 AD! Thus, I think that many millions, perhaps billions of planets out there may have life, but they're most likely microbial and bacterial, as life was on Earth for most of its history.
The Kardashev Scale explanation is a bit misleading, a better way would be to say, mastered haversting or managing. I also took a small dive into wiki and it adds even more, for example for Type I Civilization: Hypothetically, it should also be able to control natural events such as earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc.
Yeah, I also have never been a huge fan of the Kardashev scale. It's much too broad. And there's a huge gap in every step going from zero to one. I would imagine the same in the later stages but obviously are very far from being there.
@@100percentSNAFU I think that's the point to make it broad and over simplistic. But if you start going through 500 phases the main concept might get lost.
I can see that, but... It's kind of like, well, we know more about the Moon and outer space than we know about our own Ocean, which is, at its deepest, a little over six miles deep. But, does a Type I Civ really harness ALL of its home planet's energy potential? Every hydrogen atom of seawater fused to create unlimited fusion power, thereby artificially creating helium? Damned if I know! :)
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Please note that all the telescopes looking for 'intelligent life' are pointed away from Earth.
Funny quip. Are you not, 'intelligent'? "Conscious"? "Self-aware"? "Sentient"? Please note that humans, as well as some of the higher mammals (elephants and dolphins for example), are all of the above as well. Thus, why would we point our telescopes at Earth when we already know that intelligent life exists here? And of course, no reason to use a telescope to see what is right in front of you.
@@samr.england613 - Kidding aside we only have life on this planet to compare in order to determine 'intelligence'... assuming that our definition of 'intelligence' is even accurate. Given the history of our species I personally would not use humans as a control group.
@@alexhigginbotham8635 I hear you. My point was, that we're not just talking about humans, as elephants and dolphins are obviously not only sentient and intelligent, they are obviously conscious and self-aware. (Cats and dogs are, 'almost' there, but not on the level of elephants and dolphins.) The major difference between humans and all the other higher mammals in intelligence, is a difference of degree, not of kind. (Not to mention invertrebates like cuddlefish and octopuses.) Heck, even certain species of spiders.
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@@alexhigginbotham8635 I agree. But life here, for now, is our only reference. And of course while it may seem on the surface to be an oxymoron, it takes intelligence to wage organized warfare, or 'military intelligence' (an oft-cited alleged oxymoron, like, 'Jumbo shrimp') to defend one's own from other intelligent humans with aggressive intent.
I’ve heard that Clarke quote for years and I go back & forth on it. Being alone in the universe would suck but then again, I’d also rather not be exterminated by a more advanced civilization.
This is awesome and useful content thank you!
More videos about extraterrestrial life and time nature.
I'm leaning towards #4. The math for possible habitable planets brings out staggering numbers (to me anyway). We have not even explored our closest neighboring planet properly yet much less our galaxy and not mentioning the universe, our knowledge on what is out there is not even a billionth of a percent, the cup of water and shark analogy.
The other possibility is that we are in a sim and that update hasn't landed yet because we can't process it properly yet.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Actually the answer to the Fermi paradox is clear and simple, the universe is teaming with plenty life but they are separated by the shear space and time between them. This explains it.
That's a great perspective.
Yes. Space/time may be the ultimate filter. It certainly seemed that way, until technology advanced to the point of nuclear fission, robotics & artificial general intelligence (if/when that happens). After those advancements, it appears time/space may no longer be an impenetrable barrier for humanity to explore the distant stars.
Please note that a few days ago there seemed to be microbes, maybe, in Mars. Which goes to show, that the Universe being so large, we probably would not find in our human lifetimes. Nobody can traverse the Universe faster than light.
We could just be in a simulation, where aliens do not exist
Simulation is an interesting thought
It can't be a simulation because there has to be a starting point for knowledge to accumulate. It might appear to some that there's one ,but the evolution of the universe yields fractal symmetry in everything where things appear different to our macroscopic senses which filter reality. Which we can only estimate . But all matter ever more infinitely complex over evolution and time which is caused by entropy or heat loss in matter which causes time. All of it branches off from primordial beginnings and the simplicity of one thing where it all began. The void of empty space or nothing. That is what's eternal beyond time. Nothing always exists with no beginning and no ending. We are part of it . Always eternal. And infinitely eternal as energy. Energy or matter are the same . Matter derived from vaccum energy and transformed from infinite energy collapsing into infinite singularities where wind created and caused by the infinite space of nothing causes infinite energy or wind to swirl around in the void connected in infinite distances. That causes gravitation to collapse a portion of energy into a singularity that has limited capacity. A finite portion of energy fills the singularity heating and cooking the primordial energy under intense pressure and the singularity explodes thus transforming energy into matter where exponential combinations of elements form and mix in various amounts to create infinite complexity. There is no God. The universe defies precise description. The universe just is what it is and it just happens naturally with no thought of wrong or right except in some of the creatures that are created out of thin air that develop basic intelligence like countless species have here on this world . We are the aliens and therefore represent a known fraction of statistical proof that aliens do indeed exist within the infinite cosmos. This is not a simulation. All the coincidences tie into the interconnectedness of the universe and all that resides within it along with infinity and eternally. It all may seem seperate as our senses and filters of our senses are interconnected particles of matter and thus energy my dear Watson. But thusly macroscopic interpretations of reality bound by a sense of time as our essence and particles of matter are sensing entropy or the heat death of the matter because we are part of the process of the decay rate of matter! This matter is concentrated energy. Once formed ,matter or concentrated energy ,begins to expand and cool in matter and energy packets across the portion of the infinite universe where the big bang flung various concentrations of matter in different volumes of space. Time runs at different speeds based on gravitational strengths which affect the passage of time where time only exists where there is matter to decay and cool overall within the area of matter created in the explosion . The matter cools and expands in the infinite coolness of space and as it does this , it begins to lose cohesion and decay until ,it evaporates completely and returns to the void as nothing again and from where it all began! And the enormous power of truly infinite vaccum energy co exists always with the void as two seperate yet distinct things that cause a contradiction to exist within all things . Even though energy is derived from the empty void right out of thin air! We may seem seperated and distant but everything including all life that will ever exist in the universe ,on the quantum scale, is intertwined and parts of one single universe! There are and cannot be any other universes. Only one.
Space is really big and we have only looked at a small part
No we are not alone! The stars are teaming with life🌎... We as a species are still too primitive and childish... #TDBank🌎💘💰
I think the vid is talking about intelligent, "technical" life. That is, life that is capable of building radio telescopes, spacecraft, and toasters. I have no doubt that, 'the stars' are teeming with life, but most of that life is most likely bacteria and microbes.
There is an intriguing theory suggesting that the reason we haven't found other civilizations is related to the universe's age, which is around 13 billion years. This theory posits that either the universe is still young, making us the first intelligent beings to emerge, or the universe is old, and we are among the last.
Of course there is intelligent life in the Universe. . . . . . . Someday that life form will visit Earth.
They're only likely to visit us if they're WITHIN our own Galaxy. Even then, it's unlikely, as any fellow tech civs are separated by the vastness of space AND time.
The argument that we are alone in the universe is so ego driven, one key point is our planet is teeming with life, not just human, so we are not alone already, as apes and dolphins are intelligent , oh and crows etc etc,
So using that metric and extrapolating that not only is there billion x billions Earth type planet there is the possibility for those plants to have more than one intelligent life form, let only the staggering math for non intelligent life.
@@krulerwest-oz7364 good point
If I had to take my best shot at it, I think it's a combination of a few things. One, that simple life, while not common, is probably relatively common enough that's it's out there and around even in our own galaxy, but complex life, and furthermore intelligent life, is a much harder process to develop and is rare. And beyond intelligence, there is the ability to be technological. There could be intelligent humanoids (I propose intelligent life must take a similar form to humans in that they would need to be upright, bipedal, and land dwelling, but very likely not resemble us in more superficial ways) but they may not have some of the benefits we have. Like an abundance of water, a relatively calm yellow star, and crucially an abundance of fossil fuels that we have because this planet had dinosaurs and other large organic life to break down over millions of years and provide it. A readily available fuel source is a must to get technology off the ground. Or maybe some planets large, small brained creatures never got wiped out like ours did, and never evolved enough to reach any level of significant intelligence.
The second and third reasons are tied together. Time and distance. If we are to assume the first scenario is true, that intelligence and technology is rare, then there would be very few examples and the distance between them would likely be vast outside of a complete fluke. The distance of time could be even greater. A million years is a drop in the bucket on a cosmological scale but huge for an intelligent species. It would be logical to assume most are only going to be around a few million years at best. A thousand light years is also nothing on the grand scale but unimaginable huge for us. A 2 million year old technological civilization could have existed until 300 years ago when they got wiped out and their last signal shot out into space, but they are 200 light years away and that last gasp of existence passed us by 100 years ago before we had the technology to detect it. They could be further away and we may some day detect it. Or they could be so far away we are gone before we can. There could have been thousands, millions that existed a billion years ago and we wouldn't know unless we could travel there and find ruins, but traveling any distance is probably not even possible unless we discover some yet undiscovered propulsion technology down the road...and then there is the problem of relatively and time dilation. So many factors would have to line up just perfect for us to discover another intelligent species that it is highly unlikely. That's my take anyways on the Fermi Paradox.
Your answer is ego driven. We do not know the probabilities of life forming. It is obviously hard for life to form else we could do it in a test tube; but how hard? So stick to science and don't let your ego rule your answers.
@@haroldnowak2042 Your reply was somewhat amusing as you claim my post was ego driven, when it was commentary on certain sections of humanity wanting to only except the we are alone concept which also goes with the denial of the alleged age of the universe.
As for life forming is hard as you put it, is it? is it really, from observational science it would appear given a chance life will fill a niche, hence the old saying, "Nature abhors a vacuum", and yes in regards to life in space I used that quote on purpose.
But my main point was about statistical probabilities even if life was hard, again your words with reference to the staggering number of planets able to support life just as we know it would be a very large number.
@@krulerwest-oz7364 Your reasoning seems to follow that because you are so wonderful, the universe has to have lots of things like you. That is pure ego. We may or may not be alone, just stick to scientific reasoning. Remember, when life started on Earth 4.2Billion years ago, Earth was NOT Earthlike, it had a toxic atmosphere and ocean. Life did not start on an Earthlike planet so it doesn't matter if there are billions of them in the universe.
We are alone in the universe, and if any other intelligent life exists, it too is alone.
Each and every tech civ forever separated by space and time? I think it likely.
We could be actually alone 100% but I hope maybe there is other life
You are not alone, look around you, You are finding new species of life everyday on Your planet cherish and nurture it and you will be surprised what you find.
Kardeshev scale is that a type 1 can ‘utilize’ all of the energy available on its planet. Not used up . Same for type 2 and 3. Getting turned off from a lot of informative channels lately. Seems they are utilizing Ai or bots
The universe is so big and so old the chances of 2 species arising to technology development at the same time in the same area of space are virtually nil.
That’s saying we are not alone, but it’s so difficult to find them, we may never know. Sort of like navigating your way out of an infinitely complex maze. But it doesn’t stop us from trying anyway….frustrating for humanity. Maybe we can one day send out self -replicating fossil hunting probes…just a thought.
We're so little and rare. It seems the configuration of our solar system is rather unusual, so the Fermi equation might need adjusting. But there's also the concept of life and intelligence: we only know "this".
Great video. I'd just recommend lower the volume of the music. I loved the music, but at times it was louder than the narrator, and it's distracting if it takes over 🤭
I disagree that the 'configuration of our Solar System is unusual." G2 Class Yellow Dwarf stars like our Sun probably have comparable systems of planets orbiting them. Problem is, our current main methods of detecting exo systems, is best at detecting such systems orbiting red dwarfs, as G-class stars like the Sun are too bright to detect alien planets using the radial velocity or transit methods.
Thanks for the feedback! I’m glad you liked the video. I’ll keep the music volume in mind for future videos
@@samr.england613 If you are interested in a different perspective, Anton Petrov discusses the paper titled
"A framework for the architecture of exoplanetary systems. I. Four classes of planetary system architecture" published last year, in a video titled "Turns out, Solar System is the rearest system out there"
It's a different theoretical framework, the star type alone is not sufficient.
I only know I know nothing 🤭
Great video and information !
Thanks for watching!
what's terrifying of being alone?
We are a simulation, quite possibly like a fishbowl!
V vesolju so pametnejše civilizacije kot zemljani, ki se med seboj pobivamo
I believe we are not alone although not experienced it yet but due to the way humanity as been behaving we want to assume we're alone so as to feel superior but the universe is vast as nasa as said and showed us it's so impossible to be the only ones In this universe
Who says we want to assume we're alone?
Aliens' need Radio Astronomy 😮 - Manipulate electromagnetic radiation.
Who runs this channel must have some problems. A couple of videos ago, you said we will never get off our plant or Solar System, now you say we have to colonise the whole Univers. Can you decide already which will be?
They've seen from above, witnessed our fighting spirit in our movies and real wars; they just simply avoid.. our active imaginations help them realize the amount of knowledge we have,,,,,,, for violence.
Watch movie-- the day the earth stood still.
wondering what you mean by other intelligent life where is their intelligent life
We mean life forms with intelligence similar to humans. Scientists are still searching for evidence of such life in the universe, but so far, we haven't found any. Thanks for watching!
In our galaxy, the Milky Way? Probably not, but even at n=1 per galaxy there should be billions intelligent, space faring life forms in the universe.
Intelligences, yes. Spacefaring? Who's to say. We've done some manned 'spacefaring' only to our Moon, so far. Lot's of talk about sending people to Mars, but, we'll see. Any other beings out there that have our capabilities or beyond, will be in the same boat we're in: $Cost, effort, tech level, logic, necessity, reason, etc. Why send an organism into utterly hostile space when a robot can do it?
Our solar system format is extremely rare (about 5% of all of them) and we have an unusually large moon. We also had several events where it was freak chance to survive, snowball earth, meteorite strikes at the right angle etc. A very, very unlikely chain of events to reproduce in just 14 billion years
To darn louuuuud to hear the voice.
Its not a paradox if there is no spacefaring intelligent life with interstellar capabilities.
So far, the count of interstellar intelligent life forms remains at zero, including ourselves.
This is just so much mental masturbation.
Alone or not? I don't find either answer, "terrifying". If we're not alone, we, and the other tech civs, are separated forever from each other by space and time. If we are truly, "alone", than that means we should cherish not only all life on this planet, including cockroaches, fleas, mosquitos (and other parasites), but cherish each other! And truly cherish life itself!
Thanks for sharing you thoughts!
I think that we are alone though I hope we aren’t. The scary question is how can something come from nothing?
I don't understand either how something can come from nothing. But the physicists say it's because of quantum physics. Still... No wonder we believe, or came up with the concept, of God, the Ultimate Supreme Creator of All. (And God always existed.) Carl Sagan argued that, "why not save a step, and argue that the Universe always existed, in one form or another"? A strong argument, but I still believe in an Almighty God, the Alpha and the Omega, eternal and infinite.
@@samr.england613 Even God had to come from something or in this case… nothing. So the question still remains.
@@priztucker That's why I quoted Sagan. "If we argue that God always existed, why not save a step and conclude that the Universe has always existed (in one form or another). But, Priz, I guess it's because most of us would like to believe that there's a reason for it all, and so, we conclude THE God Almighty, Creator of All. The Alpha and the Omega, Who always was, is, and ever will be. Of course, just because we believe it, doesn't make it true.
@samr.england613 well if the universe always existed cool, we know the earth and life is not! An eternal universe still doesn't answer the question of how earth came to be and life etc. I believe in the creator God
@priztucker if God had a beginning then he wouldn't be God. If the universe is eternal, still doesn't answer the question of how "life" came etc...
we are but a pale blue dot...
From a distance and in the context of the Milky Way Galaxy, anyway. But from the perspective of the entire Universe, the Milky Way is itself a 'fuzzy bluish-hazy dot'.
The fermi paradox does not exist
That, in it of itself, is quite the paradox 😂
How so?
Wow… it was all good, until the very end…”we matter little”…my conclusion is the opposite… we may be the ONLY thing that is alive & matters, in the entire universe.
Thanks for watching!
No...
Bullshit...
We 're Not....
We already' ve mermaidens on the bloody planet!
What a bleak outlook.
We are it right now. We live in a universe that the majority of all the stars in existence will ultimately last for trillions of years. That means this universe is still in its diapers. Come talk to me 2 or 3 hundred billion years from now. I'm betting things are much different.
Still debatable however if planets around a red dwarf can be habitable, due to tidal locking and solar flares. If it turns out they are not habitable, then it limits us to probably just G and K type stars, which is a pretty small percentage, and actually may be part of the explanation of "where is everyone".
@@100percentSNAFU once again we can not know the answers about M dwarfs and if they can support life as it is too soon. Things hundreds of billions of years from now may and will be very different.
We know a lot and yet it boils down to a mere drop in the bucket. There is no way to say if planets around M Dwarfs will or will not be habitable in 2 or 3 hundred billion years.
I do see your point yet your conclusions can not truly be known.
Think about this until we could see them how long did large galaxies take to form. The experts were sure that more than a billion years needed to pass before well developed galaxies could exist. Now their opinions have changed.
My point is not to start a fight. What I'm saying is this universe is in its diapers and we do not have all the answers. We have a lot of great questions and that is a good start.
@@100percentSNAFU And yet, if G-class yellow stars are just 7% of all stars in a typical spiral galaxy like "our" Milky Way Galaxy, that gives us anywhere from 14 Billion to 28 Billion Sun-like yellow dwarf stars, or some Yellows of higher magnitude and mass. (G1 thru G8 yellow stars.) Digital, I think it sucks that our present remote detection techniques and capabilities can only find "Earth-type" planets around red dwarfs.
@@samr.england613Agreed, there are some good candidates within just 100 light years or so that are G and K stars maybe we will find something around them when our searching technology improves. I think a couple more requirements to habitability would also include a Jupiter like planet positioned deeper in the system as Jupiter is for us as blocker of comets and things of that sort, and also age of the star obviously a big factor. One might wonder as well if there are already dead yellow stars that at one time in the extreme distant last hosted life around them? With a 5 billion or so year lifespan many could have already come and gone.
@@100percentSNAFU Of course, back in the early 2000s. Congress cancelled the Terrestrial Planet Finder, which, IIRC, designed to search for earthlike planets orbiting M, K, and G-class stars. There's our gov for you. As far as systems orbiting yellow dwarfs like our Sun go, I'd bet mule butts to navy beans that our system is typical and not an anomaly. While there are probably a diversity of arrangements orbiting Yellows, I'd bet ours is not rare. (Btw, I've read that Mercury could very well be the core remnant of a Jovian "roaster" that migrated too close to the Sun over 4 1/2 Billion years ago, and may have caused the gravitational purturbation that sent Rhea our way, colliding with Earth and forming Earth's moon. ) And I agree about the whole time and space thing, especially the time. After all, for over 4 Billion years after the first life emerged on Earth, no creature on this planet built a radio telescope until circa 1952 AD! Thus, I think that many millions, perhaps billions of planets out there may have life, but they're most likely microbial and bacterial, as life was on Earth for most of its history.
The most idiotic and medeival question ever.asked
The Kardashev Scale explanation is a bit misleading, a better way would be to say, mastered haversting or managing. I also took a small dive into wiki and it adds even more, for example for Type I Civilization: Hypothetically, it should also be able to control natural events such as earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc.
Yeah, I also have never been a huge fan of the Kardashev scale. It's much too broad. And there's a huge gap in every step going from zero to one. I would imagine the same in the later stages but obviously are very far from being there.
@@100percentSNAFU I think that's the point to make it broad and over simplistic. But if you start going through 500 phases the main concept might get lost.
I can see that, but... It's kind of like, well, we know more about the Moon and outer space than we know about our own Ocean, which is, at its deepest, a little over six miles deep. But, does a Type I Civ really harness ALL of its home planet's energy potential? Every hydrogen atom of seawater fused to create unlimited fusion power, thereby artificially creating helium? Damned if I know! :)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!